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Forum Post: FELLOW CITIZENS: All of these 'TV show' pages are being created every few minutes to disrupt our forum. We need to create our own pages much more often just to preserve our cause here. CREATE MORE CAUSE RELATED PAGES.

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 30, 2011, 12:08 p.m. EST by ModestCapitalist (2342)
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OWS. FELLOW CITIZENS: All of these 'TV show' pages are being created every few minutes to disrupt our forum.

DONT CLICK ON THE LINKS. THEY ARE REDIRECTS AND WILL HARM YOUR COMPUTER WITH VIRUSES, MALWARE, AND SPYWARE!

We need to create our own pages much more often just to preserve our cause here. CREATE MORE CAUSE RELATED PAGES.

It's just as easy to create a page as it is to post a message. Just go to 'forum'. Then 'post'. Enter your cause related information and hit 'post' again. As a group, we need to add new pages to the site every few minutes at least just to preserve this forum.

These dozens of 'TV show' pages are being created by 1% club pigs and die-hard conservatives in an attempt to make this site worthless. At first, I thought that it was just some pig using this forum to promote their own commercial site or agenda. Then I noticed that the 'TV show' pages didn't all reference the same media site, network, producer, ect.

These pages are being created every few minutes day and night. Sometimes dominating the list shown to the right of each page. I no longer believe this is simple promotion. I'm now convinced that this relentless attempt by some to flood this site with irrelevant crap is intended to reduce cause related traffic and support here.

We should probably ignore these 'TV show' pages. Otherwise, they will get bumped higher on the 'forum' list and push our legitimate pages further down. It's also very important that we stay focused and keep creating our own cause related pages. Otherwise, the bad guys will make this site irrelevant. Remember: These pages are all searchable on the web. So be sure to use relevant phrases like "corporate greed" "concentration of wealth" "richest one percent" ect. This will increase cause related hits from search results all over the world.

This site is being ruined by trolls. It's no accident. It's no game. It's about money and PR. The rich don't want our messages read. They don't want people to understand. They don't want to accept responsibility for any of this. They will say or do anything to divert our attention.

Don't let them get away with it. 

Search the AM dial day and night for local call in talk radio shows. There are dozens of them. Call in and be heard by thousands at once. Its easy. I've done it over 800 times. Just don't bother with Limbaugh, Hanity, Levin, Beck, Ingraham, Savage, Doyle, Harley, Mcnamera, Bortz, or Bruce. Those guys are a waste of time. The others are ok. You are welcome to use anything I post. The quotes and statistics are accurate.

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[-] 3 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

Click the name link under the post title on the main forum page and send the asshole a private message. If we flood him/her/it with personal messages they may get bored.

I send this standard message: "You are and evil asshole!"

Personal messages do not impact forum post rankings but do allow good folks to flood the asshole's personal message box. Turn about is fair prey.

[-] 1 points by pinker3 (56) 12 years ago

It's not a person. It's a bot. The main coder of this site has not worked on it since Dec 21. Who knows if the people with admin auth are even watching it.

[-] 1 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

there is likely a person in the process and they will want to see their handiwork. If there are dozens of private message alerts covering their screen they will be prevented from seeing the forum main page.

I have hit the limit for personal messages in one day, 15. So that idea is limited anyway.

Please write to the forum email at: general@occupywallst.org and ask that they install a CAPTCHA code into the registration to stop this crap.

[-] 3 points by pinker3 (56) 12 years ago

An example of one of the same spambots from a random forum - same username as one of the TV "posters" on here. Created yesterday and banned on that forum immediately. Traihan209. If you search some of the other ones you'll see accounts deleted for them all over the web. They need a filter here.

www.sencha.com/forum/member.php?359914-traihan209

[-] 2 points by pinker3 (56) 12 years ago

The last changes made to the line code of this site was on December 21, so they have not addressed any issues here since then. There are about five people who write/re-write code for OWS, but one main one. I would find her on github's OWS code site if you want to see what is going on. Maybe the coders are on vacation??!!

I did not go through all of the code changes, but they did at one point put some anti-spam code in. Maybe someone screwed that part up at a later date...

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[-] 3 points by pinker3 (56) 12 years ago

Github, the software used for this site, is open source and run by individual/small group users for free. These TV posts are spambots and the site admins will need a plug in of some sort to try to filter them out.

[-] 2 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

Please send an email to: general@occupywallst.org

Request that they install a CAPTCHA code into the forum registration process that would prevent most of this crap.

If enough of us filled the mailbox they would respond.

Be polite and wish them a Happy New Year.

And the same to you all.

[-] 2 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

Solution:

Everyone email:

general@occupywallst.org

And ask that a CAPTCHA code be added to the forum registration process.

[-] 2 points by pinker3 (56) 12 years ago

Hmm. Just found another way this spambotter works, via twitter. danikm091 is one of the latest tv "posters". They really need to address this stuff.

http://twitter.com/danikrn091

[-] 2 points by NewEnglandPatriot (916) from Dartmouth, MA 12 years ago

I have been defacing them and reporting them as I can keep up.

Many have been deleted, but these last few days it is out of control

IF I ignore them they get worse, yesterday over 25 were created in 15 minutes.. I couldn't even find a discussion, it is obvious this is done to us on purpose, and there are very few of us actual users left. They have driven many away lately.

[-] 1 points by BlueRose (1437) 12 years ago

I think you do more harm than good. You keep all these spam posts at the top, you constantly respond to them instead oif responding to legitimate posts. Maybe everyone start legit posts with a * or "LEGIT POST" or something, perhaps the spammers will not catch on as easliy. But STOP RESPONDING TO THEM!

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[-] 4 points by NewEnglandPatriot (916) from Dartmouth, MA 12 years ago

I couldn't keep up and they were threatening me on my PM yesterday.... I bombarded their accounts and shut them down, - what you must do is not reply to my deface posts, take a few moments to dislike all of the comments except for mine.

The admins look for things like SPAM and DOUCHE, and they go in and delete, I just got 45 of them deleted in last 1/2 hour.

Please take a few moments when you see DOUCHE ACCOUNT, like my post and dislike the others in there that I flag, within a few minutes they will be at bottom of list, ADMINS will delete!

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[-] 3 points by NewEnglandPatriot (916) from Dartmouth, MA 12 years ago

There are 3 of them, working together. Now they are advertising under the guise of handicap donations and adressing as OWS supporter.

This is garbage, and the links are re-directs to others, hidden MALWARE and SPYWARE in these... This is a scam...

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[-] 0 points by shadz66 (19985) 12 years ago

Niiice One 'NEP' !! U & 'Thrassy' R both doin' a GR8 job for us all on this matter and don't think that we don't appreciate it !! Happy 2012 ;-)

[-] 0 points by NewEnglandPatriot (916) from Dartmouth, MA 12 years ago

We get blasted for our efforts, now I am being "accused" of various "intents"

Thx

[-] 2 points by April (3196) 12 years ago

You and Thas are doing a great job helping to improve the forum. Thank you! I will like/dislike as much as I can.

[-] 1 points by BlueRose (1437) 12 years ago

Ridiculous. Thras embeds hidden links, and NEP calls him a friend.

[-] 1 points by April (3196) 12 years ago

If the moderators were willing/able/capable of enforcing the rules, maybe none of this would be happening and wouldn't be necessary.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 12 years ago

Camping "intents" ?! ;-)

[-] -1 points by NewEnglandPatriot (916) from Dartmouth, MA 12 years ago

hehehe, I have actually been accused by many of being Thrasymaque, and Glaucon (who are the same)

I assure you we are different people ;) , perhaps great minds think alike ;)

These are the same culprits the post conspiracy theories accusing me of crap...- Some others on here believe them which is why I will not be on here much longer, many who I considered "friends" on here have turned on me as well because they believe everything....I do not care,

I have been accused of all sorts of intent, now I am waiting to be accused of clhild porn, like Thrasy was (which is BS) that is all I have not been accused for. Just goes to show how these people think.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 12 years ago

Errr ! I'm also personage who thought and allude to that NEP/Glaucon/Trashy continuum thang !! And, 2 B perfectly honest, your post above hasn't really helped me resolve my confusion !!!

[Top Tip : Sometimes "Less Is More", which coming from me may seem a little hypocritical, ironic and paradoxical ... but hope you'll get what I mean ~{;-)]

"verb. sap."

[-] 1 points by BlueRose (1437) 12 years ago

The ones who speak to each other over these spam threads ARE the spammers, could be one, two or three people. but how the hell people think responding to spam posts is a good idea is beyond me. They know it's mischief, really.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 12 years ago

as abv. ;-)

[-] 0 points by NewEnglandPatriot (916) from Dartmouth, MA 12 years ago

I don't care....Believe what you wish, you are free to do so and it is not your fault....Good luck to you all I can do is send you love and not hate... good luck

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 12 years ago

Thanx but please don't get annoyed or upset ; I was actually trying to be helpful !! Consider, that how we write (ie express ourselves) can be as individual as a face or voice - and sometimes similarities may be confusing ;-)

[-] 0 points by NewEnglandPatriot (916) from Dartmouth, MA 12 years ago

Thrasy has been around since beginning, and has simply run out of patience. Him and I went back and forth, and he showed links to impostor accounts and I was never "arguing" with him I was arguing with the impostor. He pointed this out and many believe that he was responsible because of the similarity of the ID. Thrasymoque, Thrasymquae, etc . At a glance IDs appear the same...

This has been happening to a few on here, perhaps I have more patience but it has gotten out of hand; Do you like it every time you log on or submit a post and there are dozens of ((WATCH LIVE THE KARDASHIANS...) etc I am sure you have seen this crap.

He was defacing a few outrageous conspiracies as well, many users on here fail to see what he is doing....and call it censorship....This board has become full of trollers run amuck....

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 12 years ago

@ NEP & BR : Food for thought. Thanx ;-) & have a gr8 2OI2 ~*~

[-] 0 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 12 years ago

Thanks for the heads up. Great work. I will be glad to help.

[-] -1 points by NewEnglandPatriot (916) from Dartmouth, MA 12 years ago

Thanks, welcome back its been a while.

[-] 1 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

IDEA

Post the single word: SPAMMER, in the thread of TV spam and everyone please go and vote up that post. When you see the word in the side bar links go and vote it up. Please.

[-] 1 points by valfather (286) 12 years ago

I'm used to Internet noise pollution. It comes with the territory. Challenge the status quo and get attacked.

[-] 1 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

Email verification of new registrations could be a solution.

[-] 1 points by ropeknot (359) 12 years ago

As per my past post , don't click on the post and it will go to the bottom .

Going somewhere else is tantamount to not rebuilding the twin towers , where as they win .

Stay here and just reply to what you're interested in .

I've contacted the O.W.S.G.A. and just hope someone shuts them down.

[-] 1 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

If you have information or ideas for a counter attack against the TV spammer post them here: http://occupywallst.org/forum/counter-attack-the-tv-spammer/

[-] 1 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

Counter attack.

Here is information gleaned from Google searches of some of the names that are spamming the OWS forums with TV links and hacking crap.

How can we use this information?

Contact general@occupywallst.org and ask that they institute an email verification registration process that can at least slow down the butt hole who is spamming the forum.a

One of the oldest real sounding names authoriting this crap is dominickgrandin5677. I googled: dominickgrandin5677

The oldest posting on Google "authored" by that name was Oct. 13 on a rugby blog.

http://walesvsfranceliverugbystreamonline1.spi-blog.com/

"http://spi-blog.com/" is a free blog hosting service.

If its the same person who is spamming with free TV "minggiro" seems to be Indonesian and they have a song posted in MP3 format around the web.

The following asshole is all over the Internet.

"intertainment7" has several blogs on Google's blogger so I am sure that if we complain to Google they will boot his/her butt off Blogger. Here is the profile page: this user name also seems to have links in Indonesia. This email: "intertainment2025@gmail.com" appeared on one Google entry.

http://www.blogger.com/profile/02247368835776051030

I found this on YouTube about Intertainment7:

"intertainment - The Entertainment for the Internet. Welcome to me interactive network: -My Website: www.intertainment.co.nr -My Email: intertainment@ymail.com -My Youtube: intertainment7 At the moment i am offering my graphic designer services to anyone who needs them (makeing websites, making logos, making banners e.t.c) Please contact me for futher information on prices." http://www.youtube.com/user/intertainment7

Anyone who can make use of this information PLEASE DO!

While searching Google for "kamal123" I found numerous postings related to IT job postings by him/her based in Australia. When I went to one of the more legitimate looking links with several IT job postings and implying that kamal123 was a visual programming IT engineer my computer went all kinds of bonkers. Including a system level request to erase all browser history for the past hour.

And yet again there were Indonesian links and Pakistani links on Google related to "kamal123".

[-] 1 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

While searching Google for "kamal123" I found numerous postings related to IT job postings by him/her based in Australia. When I went to one of the more legitimate looking links with several IT job postings and implying that kamal123 was a visual programming IT engineer my computer went all kinds of bonkers. Including a system level request to erase all browser history for the past hour.

And yet again there were Indonesian links and Pakistani links on Google related to "kamal123".

I'll search more of these names later. Dinner awaits my nimble fingers upon the microwave touchpad.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

Thanks for your hard work. This seems to be an organized attack. Perhaps the moderators could block the IPs of certain regions. I live in Bali, Indonesia but I assure you I am not one of these people. However, if they find that many are posting their spam from Indonesia I would be the first to agree with a full Indonesian IP ban. I think I'm the only one here from Indonesia. It's more important to get ride of the spammers than to keep me around. I could always use another forum if this was a needed strategy.

[-] 1 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

I would hate to see a lot of innocent people victimized to protect us all from one or two psycho's.

I agree about the organized attack. That is why I figured that some of the names might have real people attached to them and Googled for the real seeming names.

Most likely the original source is some enthusiastic young fool who was contracted outside the U.S., in Indonesia, Australia or Pakistan, by the White House or CIA. That gives them plausible deniability. I am sure that Obama does not like the animosity directed at him on these threads. The government has had Internet forum counter measures engineers working in the military since the Clinton administration. I remember the 1999-2000(?) news conference when they announced the "cyberspace command" that was to operate out of the NORAD computer center.

Democrats have little respect for free political speech when it is not in their favor. But then it could also be the Indonesian government fearful of the Occupy movement spreading to them. There is a whole world of possibilities.

[-] 1 points by Windsofchange (1044) 12 years ago

The trolls and spammers are insane on this board. Hopefully, they will get bored (when no one pays attention to them) and just go away already.

Thank you for the warning about the links. Just how low could these people go?

[-] 1 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

If its the same person who is spamming with free TV "minggiro" seems to be Indonesian and they have a song posted in MP3 format around the web.

The following asshole is all over the Internet.

"intertainment7" has several blogs on Google's blogger so I am sure that if we complain to Google they will boot his/her butt off Blogger. Here is the profile page: this user name also seems to have links in Indonesia. This email: "intertainment2025@gmail.com" appeared on one Google entry.

http://www.blogger.com/profile/02247368835776051030

I found this on YouTube about Intertainment7:

"intertainment - The Entertainment for the Internet. Welcome to me interactive network: -My Website: www.intertainment.co.nr -My Email: intertainment@ymail.com -My Youtube: intertainment7 At the moment i am offering my graphic designer services to anyone who needs them (makeing websites, making logos, making banners e.t.c) Please contact me for futher information on prices." http://www.youtube.com/user/intertainment7

Anyone who can make use of this information PLEASE DO!

[-] 1 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

The only thing that I can find in a Google search of "horridCop' is that they use an anti spam cover mailbox.

[-] 1 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

NEW INFORMATION

How can we use this information?

One of the oldest real sounding names authoriting this crap is dominickgrandin5677. I googled: dominickgrandin5677

The oldest posting on Google "authored" by that name was Oct. 13 on a rugby blog.

http://walesvsfranceliverugbystreamonline1.spi-blog.com/

"http://spi-blog.com/" is a free blog hosting service.

How can we use this information?

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

Most likely, the administrators will need to implement bans on the IPs of certain regions where these spammers are attacking from. This means legit users could be affected as well, but if it's needed to save the forum I don't see an alternative.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

Where's anonymous when you need them?

[-] 1 points by Antarctica (2) 12 years ago

I would love to create a few more posts for the cause but I can only make one then not allowed another for two hours...oh well.

[-] 1 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

Couldn't this be prevented with a simple CAPTCHA code added to the registration process?

[-] 1 points by Joeboy32 (72) 12 years ago

I was wondering why, these tv and movie posts kept popping up. Another distraction to people to focus on, rather than seeking the truth and contributing to the cause.

[-] 1 points by pinker3 (56) 12 years ago

The last changes made to the line code of this site was on December 21, so they have not addressed any issues here since then. There are about five people who write/re-write code for OWS, but one main one. I would find her on github's OWS code site if you want to see what is going on. Maybe the coders are on vacation??!!

I did not go through all of the code changes, but they did at one point put some anti-spam code in. Maybe someone screwed that part up at a later date...

[-] 1 points by pinker3 (56) 12 years ago

Another example from tv "poster" Tanjin. Posted within last hour - same crap, but on a new zealand forum. spambots. without a doubt.

http://nz.entertainment.yahoo.com/tv/opinions/author/GH3V3NUBRCZNF4BPV2JNF3EWJI/

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[-] 1 points by pinker3 (56) 12 years ago

also, just looked up the username of latest tv poster - downloadufc in quotes and definitely same crap posted on other sites as far back as sept 11 - i didn't look any further.

they need spambot filter.

[-] 1 points by pinker3 (56) 12 years ago

I don't know. I just googled some of the poster names in quotations and found those things. if you look at the new zealand yahoo site, to the right, you will see the same kinds of posts that are on here.

(it is possible that those sites are trying to install something on computers - i would certainly not click a link on a windows machine, as when i clicked on on my linux pc, the password to install something opened. i think windows 7 may now require password to install something, but i know older versions do not.)

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[-] 1 points by Nicolas (258) from Québec, QC 12 years ago

I'd say they don't merely disrupt, they serve as a valid excuse to shut down the site if certain laws regarding internet piracy pass. It's a remarkable exemple, in fact, of how those laws can be dangerous.

All the best of luck to the admins in fighting it. Is there a way to help them? In the meantime, go to a physical occupation whenever the state of forums eat away at your faith in the movement too much.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

I don't know about constant creation of new pages. Seem's that would cause more confusion than be helpful. I would suggest instead that we lodge a complaint to the site to look into the poison pen posts cluttering their site. But I would also suggest instead of tagging them, don't respond in any way to them, just let them sink off of the board until the site can clean them out.

Instead of constant creation of new post's/pages. Scroll down the list and find the good content posts and insert a topical or helpful reply and keep the good post cycling back to the top.

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

I think our effort would be better spent, in commenting on existing posts to keep them alive and the topics discussed. I sent an E-mail to the site address listed on the bottom of this page. Hopefully they can do something about these attacks.

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[-] -1 points by survivor514 (65) 12 years ago

Any plans on getting a " classified " section ?. I have a few things I'd like to sell

[-] -1 points by survivor514 (65) 12 years ago

and here I just thought you guys had added a TV GUIDE to your web site

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