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Forum Post: FBI labels Occupiers "domestic terrorists"

Posted 11 years ago on Dec. 25, 2012, 11:47 a.m. EST by john32 (-272) from Pittsburgh, PA
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[-] 3 points by GypsyKing (8708) 11 years ago

FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! Now go away and be a good little serf, like your daddy was.

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[-] 3 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

You are exactly correct sir.

Get some human eyes on our information because the computers tracking all of our shit isn't enough.

"They're tracking all of your electronic communications" - William Binney, the guy who invented the program for the NSA

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[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 11 years ago

Exactly.

I cannot imagine anyone would approve funding to sift through my little life.

[-] 3 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

you wouldn't believe the shit they approve to fund these days.

[-] 2 points by FawkesNews (1290) 11 years ago

A full investigation of this forum would logically lead to an investigation of the bankers that have hijacked the country.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

We can fight govt spies. Here is a court ruling thay indicates some judges find in the peoples favor.

http://truth-out.org/news/item/13542-court-rules-antiwar-activists-can-sue-government-spies

[-] 2 points by brightonsage (4494) 11 years ago

The anarchists among us must be so pleased. Oh, and the militias. And the sessionistas. The Paulists. The TP gang. The Socialists. The Direct Democrats. The Koch's. The Heartless Institute. The AFE, The AFP, The AEI, The Heritage Institute, CATO, Turd Blossom, and others too numerous and reprehensible to mention.

[-] 2 points by FawkesNews (1290) 11 years ago

The willingness to die defending the "American Constitution" on "American Soil" is never "Domestic Terrorism".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/23/fbi-occupy-wall-street_n_2355883.html

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

thanks for this post.

Merry Christmas! You're a domestic terrorist!

Fucking bullshit. Peaceful protests labeled domestic terrorism. That's what happens when you question the fraud of the banks and corporate rule of the government.

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[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

I can't wait to tell my mom at Christmas dinner.

I'm coming out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-mjl63e0ms

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[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

Mom told me not to talk about the government at dinner. haha

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[-] 0 points by john32 (-272) from Pittsburgh, PA 11 years ago

Lol - Yeah not very uplifting for xmas....my bad.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

no, I appreciate the link.

It's really lame that party hacks continue their attack on you with downvotes. Fuck 'em. They're the ones voting for war and giving trillions to banks. They can downvote you day and night. Still won't change that fact. Who really has the karma points anyway? LOL

[-] -1 points by outlawtumor (-162) 11 years ago

No different then peaceful, law abiding gun owners being demonetized by Occupy,Democrats and the media for owning semi-auto's, an AK-47 or an AR-15 with a 30 round mags.

[-] 3 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

First of all there has not been a single Occupy Wall Street protest about banning and demonizing gun owners. (I'm assuming you meant demonize and not "demonetize")

Also you can't read 5 posts by 5 people and think that represents everyone. Technically you can, but I don't recommend it. You could probably do it literally too. But again, I don't recommend it.

Also the situation you created is not remotely similar to the OWS situation and being documented as domestic terrorists by the FBI.

[-] 2 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 11 years ago

Good link - thank you !

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

What do they call an illegal invasion of a sovereign nation?

A mistake? One that we can't stop, mid-stride.Sorry about that.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 11 years ago

Lawsuit?

[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

Good post, its all over every occupy hometown page.

I see the guard has gotten you back into negative territory.

[-] 0 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 11 years ago

Occupiers, vets. Who's next?

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[-] 0 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 11 years ago

Of course poets. Quite a list they're assembling.

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[-] -1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 11 years ago

Let's throw in pot-heads. They're an easy bust too. And jazz musicians.

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[-] -1 points by rayolite (461) 11 years ago

ows wasn't working for constitutional defense overtly, just advocating use of constitutional rights, so it easy for the fbi to paint the movement how it wants.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8708) 11 years ago

Meaningless obfuscation, anyone?

[-] -1 points by rayolite (461) 11 years ago

Good example. I don't do that. I do facts.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8708) 11 years ago

You do meaningless babble - whole reams of it in the hopes people won't see through it to your far-right, uberlibertarian agenda. You're just the latest name in the revolving house of pseudonym mirrors down at the clown carnival.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

LOL. Right on!

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8708) 11 years ago

God they're tiresome, aren't they???

Libertarian = selfish . . . period.

They try to make a glorious cause out of it. . . Nausiating.

blah, blah, blah, blah . . .

"Liberty and Justice For All. . ." It was those last two words that just got by them somehow. They thought it said "With Liberty and Justice For Me."

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

I think they get stuck on Justice. They hear 'Just us'!

[-] -1 points by rayolite (461) 11 years ago

Nice array of distortions you've posted:-)

  1. All or nothing thinking: Things are placed in black or white categories. If things are less than perfect self is viewed as failure.

  2. Over generalization: Single event is viewed as continuous failure.

  3. Mental filter: Details in life (positive or negative) are amplified in importance while opposite is rejected.

  4. Minimizing: Perceiving one or opposite experiences (positive or negative) as absolute and maintaining singularity of belief to one or the other.

  5. Mind reading: One absolutely concludes that others are reacting positively or negatively without investigating reality.

  6. Fortune Telling: Based on previous 5 distortions, anticipation of negative or positive outcome of situations is established

  7. Catastrophizing: Exaggerated importance of self's failures and others successes.

  8. Emotional reasoning: One feels as though emotional state IS reality of situation

  9. "Should" statements: Self imposed rules about behavior creating guilt at self inability to adhere and anger at others in their inability to conform to self's rules.

  10. Labeling: Instead of understanding errors over generalization is applied.

  11. Personalization: Thinking that the actions or statements of others are a reaction to you.

  12. Entitlement: Believing that you deserve things you have not earned.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

You say that like you don't do those things.

You do..........

Plus obfuscation to the max.

[-] -1 points by rayolite (461) 11 years ago

Proof? Link?

BTW, distortion used to increase or facilitate understanding is OKAY. When it is used to prevent understanding it is despicable and evil.

Strictly unconstitutional in this case, basically criminal, attacking citizens using facts and law to defend the constitution.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

See, you did it again.

Will you please stop now?

[-] -1 points by rayolite (461) 11 years ago

coginfils do not like to be accountable, so naturally you object to citizens seeking accountability to your positions.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Now that you are making up meaningless words all by yourself, you've proven how lame everything you've said so far really is.

My position was and still is, that you have failed completely in explaining yourself on any useful level.

Particularly on the subject of article V.

[-] 1 points by rayolite (461) 11 years ago

Generalizations are cognitive distortions. You get a prize.(*). Legal process has a known value and usage. I describe that and refer to the law of the land.

And a list-When you can incorporate them all in one post, you are king of the infiltrators.

COGNITIVE DISTORTIONS

  1. All or nothing thinking: Things are placed in black or white categories. If things are less than perfect self is viewed as failure.

  2. Over generalization: Single event is viewed as continuous failure.

  1. Mental filter: Details in life (positive or negative) are amplified in importance while opposite is rejected.

  2. Minimizing: Perceiving one or opposite experiences (positive or negative) as absolute and maintaining singularity of belief to one or the other.

  1. Mind reading: One absolutely concludes that others are reacting positively or negatively without investigating reality.
  1. Fortune Telling: Based on previous 5 distortions, anticipation of negative or positive outcome of situations is established

  2. Catastrophizing: Exaggerated importance of self's failures and others successes.

  1. Emotional reasoning: One feels as though emotional state IS reality of situation. ie.

  2. "Should" statements: Self imposed rules about behavior creating guilt at self inability to adhere and anger at others in their inability to conform to self's rules.

  1. Labeling: Instead of understanding errors over generalization is applied.
  1. Personalization: Thinking that the actions or statements of others are a reaction to you.
  1. Entitlement: Believing that you deserve things you have not earned.
[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

And here I thought a coginfil was some kind of cognitive distortion.

It was just bullshit all along.

Would would have guessed?

( Most of us )

[-] 0 points by rayolite (461) 11 years ago

Yes, coginfil is a cognitive infiltrator. Like cointelpro is counter intelligence program. Who would have guessed?

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Self description then. I get it now.

You still made it up.

[-] 0 points by rayolite (461) 11 years ago

Recall I'm working to defend the constitution with legal process, meaning the roles are opposite of what you attempt to define.

BTW, for the uninitiated; when they start attempting to compromise you with what they are actually doing, you are dealing with a disrupter, which causes distractions rather than really fouling cognition.

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[-] 2 points by grapes (5232) 11 years ago

As long as the F.B.I. works within the confines of our Constitution, I have no problem with it but when it starts writing its own little scripts shrouded in secrecy based on corporate- or political-corrupted influence on law enforcement, I have a big problem with that.

The F.B.I. MUST not do selective law enforcement based on covert political or corporate influence or enforce any unconstitutional laws. There are powerful corporate entities which flout our laws and political institutions with impunity so the F.B.I. should dig into them.

There is nothing wrong with getting news from R.T. news even if the Russian government funded it, we just need to use the same information filter and truth constructor that we apply to our "own" government's propaganda.

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[-] 2 points by grapes (5232) 11 years ago

Distrust of our government is healthy for renewing our country. Patriotic people must question our dogmas and traditions, protest, and push for reforms to improve our country. The "Arab Spring" was the result of having suppressed for decades this somewhat "Talmudic" tradition of questioning and reforming.

The U.S. did not become modern by sticking with dogmas and traditions. We always had a whole bunch of what some in a moment of exasperation might call out as misfits, fools, idiots, ne'er-do-wells, or retards who will question the status quo and take risks as entrepreneurs. Sure enough though, some WILL make breakthroughs and be well rewarded and revered. With our highly developed communication and commercial infrastructure, people can benefit from the breakthroughs quickly. Thus is the benefit of keep on falling into the potholes because a few of them hide pots of gold.