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Posted 2 years ago on Nov. 6, 2015, 12:34 a.m. EST by Nevada1 (5843)
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[-] 6 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Yes ''Everyone Needs To See ...'' - your video and then also read this:

RIP David Kassick, 59 - shot like a fkn dog by a paranoid cop in a gun ridden country and with the cops thinking they are in an arms race and so not sure who they are supposed to ''Protect and Serve'' - other than themselves & their 1% and 0.01% Overlords!! Fkn Unbelievable! Who thinks this is ok in the USA?

cave .. bellum se ipsum alet !

(beware war that feeds itself!)

[-] 6 points by beautifulworld (22801) 2 years ago

Anyone who thinks we're not living in a police state needs to think again.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/motorist-shot-in-back-by-cop-lisa-mearkle-david-kassick/

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2015/11/mearkle_verdict.html

It has to be down to more than just mere incompetence and guns.

[-] 5 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Sad Truth Time .. White Folk have now become so fkn sedated and mind-managed to think such things can't/won't happen to them AND been led to believe that people of colour are somehow a threat to them that they have become like sedated lambs at a wolves' dinner party and cops just think they can do wtf they want - just like they have been doing with black folk for longer than White America can even admit.

ad iudicium ...

[-] 5 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

''U.S. police forces are so out of control there’s not even a reliable database on how many times police officers shoot citizens. So, beyond racism and fear of guns, the problem includes fragmentation in law enforcement and gaps in training among the 18,000 police agencies in the 50 states.

''A country that doesn’t even know how many times police fire their weapons or under what circumstances is one in which every local department is a law unto itself, a self-contained barony with its own special rules and customs.

''What does a lack of knowledge have to do with ultra-high levels of brutality? The answer is simple: absence of knowledge means an absence of control, which means that local departments behave with relative impunity. If local cops seem out of control, it’s because the only controls come from local politicians who are often corrupt and racist and therefore tolerant of such behavior on the part of the officers they employ.'' - from ...

fiat lux ...

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 2 years ago

All this is engineered at top levels, to hammer the population into submission. Did not have to be this way. Backlash will happen.

Excellent articles

[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

The Institutionalised State Violence in the US .. has mostly been about keeping The US 99% in their place because The US' 0.01% Parasitic Oligarch Class can not brook ANY challenge to their avarice, corruption and mendacity & the venality of The 1%! Here are some deep insights as to why this is ...

The links following the previous article-link speak clearly and are a' propos to your PD violence thread.

omnia causa fiunt ...

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 2 years ago

War has been declared against the people.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 2 years ago

Busted! 2 Cops Charged With Murder of 6 Year Old Jeremy Mardis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiAWg4eZKrE

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33306) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Criminal cops - they need to be held to the highest standards of accountability - that goes double for their chain of command - they are not above the law and it is long past time for society to bring down the hammer on them. Do you know if charges have been filed?

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 2 years ago

Well said. This citizen reporter says murder charges have been filed.

The system seems to hire the worst applicants, then sends them to Israel for training.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33306) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Let us hope that murder charges "have" been filed - AND - that they will be vigorously prosecuted!

Like your other post presents ( http://occupywallst.org/forum/everyone-needs-to-see-this/ ) - go past the 1st video and get into the following series of videos. Criminal cops get backed up and protected by their command structure as well as the rest of the area judicial system (including infernal affairs investigations) - AND - THOSE ASSHOLES (command structure - investigative - prosecutorial) NEED TO FACE CHARGES FOR OBSTRUCTION, AIDING & ABETTING as well as CONSPIRACY & COLLUSION!

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 2 years ago

Yes, we are dealing with a Brotherhood of Murders. Same behavior occurring across the country (and other countries). This is an engineered thing, and starts at the top.

Father shot, and little boy murdered. WHY?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33306) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Father shot, and little boy murdered. WHY?

Conjecture (mine) = FIGHT or FLIGHT

There is not enough emphasis put on the fact that the modern day individual "NEEDS" to stop (hesitate) a fraction of a second - TO - fully understand the circumstances in which they are involved.

This modern day individual - most especially if they are a keeper/protector of society (armed and dangerous) - must understand - that they do not have a license to kill.

Deadly force must be the very last choice and be held to the case of one life ended or another life ended. The choice being letting someone kill or stopping that individual from killing by killing them (self defense or defense of another).

A traffic stop is no reason to use deadly force - even if that traffic stop involves a chase.

I was in fear for my life - is no excuse to use deadly force - a police officer's job entails risk every day in every instance - it does not mean that because you are afraid while in the performance of your duties - that you get to kill someone.

The thing "is" - just because you are a cop does not mean that you have the right to just kill people. Being a cop means that one has to uphold the law - upholding the law does not involve the cop making up the law to suit his/her feelings at any moment in time.

Covering up for criminal behavior/actions because the cop wears the uniform is sick and those covering up for the crime/criminal should face the same penalties as the crime committed and being covered up.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

And maybe re. OWS - ''Everyone Needs To See This''

pax et lux; hic et ubique; nunc et semper ...

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 1 year ago

Thank you for info.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago
[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 1 year ago

Agree. Hillary is a Stink Bomb.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

''Hillary Clinton's Ghosts: A Legacy of Pushing the Democratic Party to the Right'':

The stench of the Clinton "Stink Bomb" pervades the Democraps. Bernie Sanders needs to go 3rd Party asap and put a stake through the heart of Zombie Duopoly's dead and decaying corpse, once and for all!

spero meliora ...

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 1 year ago

Yes, 3rd Party.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33306) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Yes 3rd party as it is more than apparent it is the only way to forward the needed change. End the GOP toxic government process by pulling all support for it - same with ending the cater to the wealthy disease in the DNC government process.

[-] 2 points by grapes (5048) 1 year ago

Yes, third party. When? Where? Who? Why? How? What? Bw has asked for this for a while. Vk thought that it should happen only after the Democratic Convention in Philadelphia due to the fanfare possible.

A Bernie/Trump ticket is a sure win in November if their supporters want to take back the executive branch. There is no policy squabble necessary until there is a win. Bernie/Stein ticket has synergy due to common issues and much easier to achieve than Bernie/Trump, a Capito-Socialist ticket.

EDIT: By a Bernie/Trump ticket, I mean Trump as Bernie's VP choice. Bernie knows Congress which Trump must deal with eventually. Trump can build with Vision but probably not in the short term because without linkage to the Cesspool, there'll be no fertilizer to grow a stratospheric robotic TV schlong. Let Bernie nurse our country for a while first before Tera eRex takes it to the max. Trump has experience on the being-regulated side as opposed to Bernie's regulating side so they would surely have policy squabbles. I think that they can work things out eventually because the goal is shared -- to serve our people, especially the sold-out, tired-out, and conked-out.

I trust the character judgment of our first-ever supermodel First-Lady-to-be, Melania, regarding Tera eRex who has a loudmouth but at least he is proposing ideas, including ones that nearly gave me a heart attack, so he gets participatory points. For far too long, the other candidates were unwilling to wade into the Leach Field to "keep myself viable for the political process."

Bernie/Stein can work well after the Convention because the Green Party has already got ballot access.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33306) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

You added to your original comment - so let me try to add to my 1st response:

Address after the DNC convention? Sure why not - the longer Bernie has the larger national exposure to the public the better.

A Bernie Drumpf general election choice is a sure win (for Bernie - I agree)

Policy squabble? Really does not enter in to the equation if Bernie does not have others elected to office to support the peoples agenda in a functional majority.

Bernie Sanders ticket = 's what needs to be fixed that has been undermined by the wealthy few for over 40 years.

Bernie Stein? OK - but really makes no difference without a working majority in government that will support the needed change.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33306) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

When? Whenever possible

Where? All 50 States

Who? The best candidate available = actions mirror speech

Why? To regain gov for the people

How? Get rid of the cater to the wealthy few establishment politicians

What? See the above

[-] 1 points by grapes (5048) 1 year ago

When? After the Convention.

Where? Start with El Norte, Greater Appalachia, Midland, Yankeedom, Left Coast, New Netherland.

Who? Bernie/?, Bernie/Stein, or Bernie/Trump in Fantasia ("crazy Bernie" + "crazy Trump" = "tamped-down rationality"?)

Why? Take back control of Cretaceous Park, vacuum the Cesspool, and stuff the Turducken.

How? Run a persistent fever. If eelites press hard on your throat, you plug up their exit holes.

What? Continuous Positive Sub-fracturing Pressure. Flexible, asymmetric, proportionate response.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33306) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Who? Bernie/?, Bernie/Stein, or Bernie/Trump in Fantasia ("crazy Bernie" + "crazy Trump" = "tamped-down rationality"?

Drumpf? Really?

I don't think it would be good for Bernie's term in office to start each day stepping in front of the press to apologize for something Drumpf has said or to have to do so in all likelyhood several times per day. National as well as international apologies.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5048) 1 year ago

Ah, you don't understand the office of the Vice Presidency, do you?

Have you heard what Joe Biden has said about Bernie supporting Mx. Cheese? Most people do not notice what the VP has said or done. For example, who was George H.W. Bush's VP? Which VP "invented" the Infobahn? Which VP knew of "voodoo?" Which VP was named a "space cadet?" Which VP knew of the "greenhouse effect?" Which VP resigned due to indictment?

The VP presides over the Senate which would be a great experience for Herr Drumpf to watch the going-ons first-hand and up-close from a position of power and learn politics. There's very little direct policy decision required.

Should mouthing off cause problems, Bernie only has to utter this to calm things down, "Herr Drumpf is under my apprenticeship and he is hired."

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33306) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Reply I sent to democraticparty@democrats.org

RE: "A con artist" for president?

For a moment (prior to opening) I had a wild thought that you might have finally woken up to the fact of who sHillary Rotten Clinton really is!

But HEY you already knew and just want to push her down our throats anyway.

Do you see why the people do not trust you anymore?

GO BERNIE !

GO 3rd Party!

End the wealthy few catering to the wealthy few government!

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33306) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Reply I sent to democraticparty@democrats.org

RE: Elizabeth Warren is in - are you?

If Elizabeth was "really" in

She would be endorsing Bernie

But she is not and so No she isn't really in!

Because of your messing around

If Bernie can be talked into it

He could be the 1st candidate to win the presidency continuing his run as a 3rd party candidate!

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33306) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Reply I sent to democraticparty@democrats.org

RE: Stand with Democrats to stop Donald Trump

My reply:

Stand with Bernie to end the wealthy few catering to the wealthy few government.

For a government of by & for The People

ALL OF THE PEOPLE

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

Now here's why "3rd Party" ~ because 1 + 1 = 1 in Oligarchy's demoCRAZY deMOCKERYcy!

And ''Everyone Needs To See'' these two too to illuminate The Darkness that U$A is now in:

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 1 year ago

Yes, Darkness.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

Bernie has won in 20 States! Can you imagine just where he'd be without - Voter Suppression; Electoral Fraud; Stolen Elections; Registration Irregularities and the ''Strip & Flip'' Shenanigans?!! DNC/DWS/HRC are now totally prepared to use every trick that the Repugnants have used in the past .. and then some!!!

spero meliora ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (22801) 1 year ago

Think of the profundity of that. A self-proclaimed Democratic Socialist, Bernie Sanders, has won 20 of the contests so far with several still to go in the United States of America, a country that is probably more to the right than it has been since slavery was legal. And, all of these victories despite, despite! the unfair party rules and annointment of Hillary Clinton by the Democratic Party.

Bernie Sanders' allegiance, however, and the allegiance of any good revolutionary, should be with the 99% and the 99% only. His run with the Democratic Party was sweet, however, in my opinion, it is over, it is not where he should be focusing his energy. He could break the two party system by running third party. He could free himself of the unfair rules and bias toward establishment candidates.

His only allegiance should be to the people. He should make sure he is on the ballot in November for all who love his platform so that they can vote for him. Staying with the Democratic Party in hopes of pushing his way through rules that are in place by TPTB is a mistake in my opinion. It will put the left in a bad position going forward.

I realize that he didn't know he would come this close, but he did and his strategy should be reflecting that. The Democratic Party should be made inconsequential, a thing of the past and this country should be handed back the true democracy that it thinks it has.

Also, consider "Why Bernie Sanders Is Our Best Chance to Beat Donald Trump," a thoughtful piece by Krystal Ball.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/krystal-ball/why-bernie-sanders-is-our_b_10064830.html

Bernie sticking with the Democratic Party to the end (convention) will be the biggest blunder in the history of modern American politics. (And, I would love to be proved wrong.) That's all I have to say.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

A ''Mistake that Bernie Sanders made'' ... Chris Hedges at Left Forum 2016:

Appended here in compliment of your excellent and essential reply and analysis. Harsh truths and facts need to be faced if The 99% .. ''are to overthrow the the Corporate Coup d'Etat that has taken place''. So much more to say on this matter but there'll be time for more later. Right now - I recommend the ^video^.

Thanx for your interesting HuffPo link, that starts with - ''Hand-wringing over party unity misses the point. No one cares about your precious parties.

''As Hillary Clinton joylessly stumbles her way to the Democratic nomination, calls have increased for Bernie Sanders to either drop out of the race altogether or, at least, to stop fighting so darn hard. We’re told that Bernie should drop out for the good of the party. Bernie should drop out so that Hillary can make her general election “pivot” (which presumably means she can be free of the burden of pretending to be a liberal). Bernie should drop out so that Hillary can focus on Trump. According to this logic, Bernie and his band of loyalists need to get pragmatic, face the music, have a reality check. Hogwash. Doesn’t anyone see what I see? Bernie Sanders is our best chance to beat Donald Trump and to prove to the young voters backing him that the Democratic party actually stands for something.

And ends with: ''So to the Bern-baby-Bern crowd I say, keep fighting. Your fight is worthy. Your cause is just. Your passionate existence irritates the Democratic powers that be because you remind them of all that they are supposed to stand for.'' -Ergo please also try to consider these very revealing numbers:

respice; adspice; prospice ...

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (22801) 1 year ago

I think Hedges is wrong to say that Bernie Sanders made a mistake by running as a Democrat initially. Actually, I think that particular decision was brilliant. Had he not done so, his following right now would be a small fraction of what it is.

I think Bernie Sanders' decision to stick with the Democratic Party through to the convention is the mistake. His candidacy has illuminated the corruption and unfairness of the duopoly and how broken our democracy is, and he now has every right to say to the DNC, "Sorry, you haven't treated me fairly, I'm out. I need to make sure I'm on the ballot for my followers in November. I think I can win the Presidency."

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

The DNC clearly wanted Bernie to just ''Sheepdog'' the Left, Progressive and Liberals! Bernie's initial motivation was probably to run to give voice and amplify his Democratic Socialist / Occupy Platform - Message!! BUT I don't think either side or even anyone ... really predicted just how well his message would animate, excite & mobilize The 99% in general but especially The Youth/Young/<35 years old.

Bernie ''Trojan Horsed'' The Democraps & should have had a strategy to let his troops out and unleash them on The Democrap Citadel but instead it now appears that he has fallen asleep inside the belly of the beast and forgotten just wtf a ''Trojan Horse'' is for & he is now in danger of being digested by said Horse / Donkey / Mule / Ass!!! I can honestly say this here BUT out there I will still push for him & his ''Democratic Socialist'' message 'cause - I NEVER thought that such a message would have had such traction less than 5 years after OWS in NYC!! For that alone Bernie has to be lionized but ''The Whole Nine Yards'' was (is?) possible - so it is also very difficult not to be pissed off at him at the same time!

Can Bernie switch to Greens & join Dr.Jill Stein before November? Could The FBI indict Hellary Rotten Clinton? Whatever happens - it is going to be even more interesting than it has been so far. Bernie has brought The Pro-99% Occupy 2.0 message to The People of USA & now we wait to see what happens and hope that regrets and last/lost opportunities will be minimized and maybe just maybe - even moot!

pax et lux; hic et ubique; nunc et semper ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

''The Battle for the Soul of American Higher Education'', by Aviva Chomsky:

''Student Protest, the Black Lives Matter Movement, and the Rise of the Corporate University''.

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22801) 1 year ago

"Not surprisingly, how today’s students frame their demands often reflects the environment in which they are being raised and educated. Postmodern theory, an approach which still reigns in so many liberal arts programs, encourages textual analysis that reveals hidden assumptions encoded in words; psychology has popularized the importance of individual trauma; and the neoliberal ideology that has come to permeate so many schools emphasizes individual behavior as the most important agent for social change. Add together these three strands of thought, now deeply embedded in a college education, and injustice becomes a matter of the wrongs individuals inflict on others at a deeply personal level. Deemphasized are the policies and structures that are built into how society (and the university) works."

"...the question of whether a political project aimed at attacking the structures of economic inequality can also advance racial and gender equality is crucial to today’s campus politics.

Put another way, the question is: How political is the personal? Political scientist Adolph Reed argues that if class is left out, race politics on campus becomes “the politics of the left-wing of neoliberalism.”

“The rule in neoliberal economies is that the difference between the rich and the poor gets wider rather than shrinks — but that no culture should be treated invidiously.” Quotes above are from the Aviva Chomsky article.

It's easy to pretend you care about all people, be they LGBT, women, African American, hispanic, disabled, students, native American, whatever difference, such as how the DNC and Hillary Clinton have been posturing for decades, but it's another thing to actually help those people.

Actually helping ALL people live their lives in a decent manner goes much deeper than neoliberalism will ever bother to go. A living wage, universal healthcare, free or at least affordable education, affordable housing, ending usury interest rates, etc., things like that would go much farther in helping all communities in our society than talk talk talk ever will. Neoliberalism is a scourge that feigns beneficence while it pillages and exploits.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

So ''Actually helping ALL people live their lives in a decent manner goes much deeper than neoliberalism will ever bother to go. A living wage, universal healthcare, free or at least affordable education, affordable housing, ending usury interest rates, etc., things like that would go much farther in helping all communities in our society than talk talk talk ever will. Neoliberalism is a scourge that feigns beneficence while it pillages and exploits.'' - An emphatic ditto & amen and in compliment ...

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 1 points by grapes (5048) 1 year ago

Hedges may still be correct though, not in the detail but in the end result. It was truly a brilliant move by Bernie to get onto the runway and run as fast as he could. We must remember that ALL runways end, forcing one to take off from the runway or crash and burn at its end. I don't think that these are the only possible outcomes because the end of April certainly did not hard-limit Bernie's run so yes, I was wrong, but it also revealed the exceptional momentum of Bernie's run. There could still be more potential to be revealed. Do we play Ping Pong?

Did we deliberately lose sight of the basketball because there was the "JV team"? Or did we mistaken that as a fusion fireball-to-be, like Linsanity?

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (22801) 1 year ago

We'll have to wait and see what happens in the coming months. I'd feel a lot more optimistic if Sanders went third party simply because I don't see the point of trying to fix something that is as broken as the Democratic Party. I also don't see the point of entrenching us in the two party system which is undemocratic to begin with.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5048) 1 year ago

The U.S. has had 30 to 40 years of moving politics right and we have already run down quite a few innocent pedestrians worldwide on the right-side curb. It's time to steer left to avoid the catastrophe. If the steering wheel has been jammed to the right, there is no point in trying to fix the stuck steering wheel or was it the deflated tire(s)? ... no matter, we must bail so yes, Sanders/Stein 2016!

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 1 year ago

Good point about DNC behavior.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

''Strip & Flip Voter Suppression Exposed'' :

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 1 year ago

Ongoing tragedy, that affects all of Earth.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

''Bernie Sanders Closes In on Hillary Clinton Ahead of California Primary'' .. by Elizabeth Preza:

Appended here in reply because any and all "Ongoing" tragedies will be alleviated to a greater or lesser degree by having Bernie in The White House! Enough of Oligarchy's deMOCKERYcy!! Bernie Or Bust!!!

dum spero, spero ...

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Maybe everyone also needs to ask: a) How lucky was the guy NOT to be killed by hysterical cops? & b)

fiat lux ...

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 2 years ago

Unfortunately, man was killed. Tased, and two bullets to his back while lying face down.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

OMG - ''man was killed. Tased, and two bullets to his back while lying face down.''!!! I did NOT get that from the video link ... BUT I sure as shit got it now!! WTF is going on now with killer cops in the U$A?!

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 2 years ago

And murderer gets away with it. This sends the worst possible message.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Does it?! Suppose ''this sends'' EXACTLY the message They want to send?!! You get my drift?!!!

sub rosa ?

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 2 years ago

Good article. WW3 seems likely and soon. It did not have to be this way. USG/Bilderberg/ Homicidal Bohemian Grove Pedophiles want WW3.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 2 years ago

And this Brutal Thing In Austin----- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02o4rluRP5Q

[-] 5 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

I'm not sure I can take much more bullying, hyper-violent, killer cops on video but Thank Goodness for the presence of mind of the video taker (I was going to call him/her 'the video shooter* - but that could get 'em hurt!). Just look at cop behaviour in your video! WTF - have so many cops done to de-escalate that situation?!! Oh no, my bad - They Escalated It Instead!!! Sue the mthrfkrs - 'til their pips squeak!!!

e tenebris - lux ?

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 2 years ago

An army of violent cops flood in over jaywalkers. What next?

[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

''What next''?! DEATH By Cop!! Happening every single day and all over the USofA!!!

Land of the un-free and home of the ex-brave, where quiescence to TPTB - makes a virtuous slave :-(

fiat lux ...