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Forum Post: Eugenics, are there people that want you dead?

Posted 11 years ago on Jan. 3, 2012, 2:20 a.m. EST by LongDaysnight (354)
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President Obama’s top science and technology advisor John P. Holdren co-authored a 1977 book in which he advocated the formation of a “planetary regime” that would use a “global police force” to enforce totalitarian measures of population control, including forced abortions, mass sterilization programs conducted via the food and water supply, as well as mandatory bodily implants that would prevent couples from having children.

The concepts outlined in Holdren’s 1977 book Ecoscience, which he co-authored with close colleagues Paul Ehrlich and Anne Ehrlich, were so shocking that a February 2009 Front Page Magazine story on the subject was largely dismissed as being outlandish because people couldn’t bring themselves to believe that it could be true.

It was only when another Internet blog obtained the book and posted screenshots that the awful truth about what Holdren had actually committed to paper actually began to sink in.

This issue is more prescient than ever because Holdren and his colleagues are now at the forefront of efforts to combat “climate change” through similarly insane programs focused around geoengineering the planet. As we reported in April, Holdren recently advocated “Large-scale geoengineering projects designed to cool the Earth,” such as “shooting pollution particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect the sun’s rays,” which many have pointed out is already occurring via chemtrails.

Ecoscience discusses a number of ways in which the global population could be reduced to combat what the authors see as mankind’s greatest threat – overpopulation. In each case, the proposals are couched in sober academic rhetoric, but the horrifying foundation of what Holdren and his co-authors are advocating is clear. These proposals include;

  • Forcibly and unknowingly sterilizing the entire population by adding infertility drugs to the nation’s water and food supply.

  • Legalizing “compulsory abortions,” ie forced abortions carried out against the will of the pregnant women, as is common place in Communist China where women who have already had one child and refuse to abort the second are kidnapped off the street by the authorities before a procedure is carried out to forcibly abort the baby.

  • Babies who are born out of wedlock or to teenage mothers to be forcibly taken away from their mother by the government and put up for adoption. Another proposed measure would force single mothers to demonstrate to the government that they can care for the child, effectively introducing licensing to have children.

  • Implementing a system of “involuntary birth control,” where both men and women would be mandated to have an infertility device implanted into their body at puberty and only have it removed temporarily if they received permission from the government to have a baby.

  • Permanently sterilizing people who the authorities deem have already had too many children or who have contributed to “general social deterioration”.

  • Formally passing a law that criminalizes having more than two children, similar to the one child policy in Communist China.

  • This would all be overseen by a transnational and centralized “planetary regime” that would utilize a “global police force” to enforce the measures outlined above. The “planetary regime” would also have the power to determine population levels for every country in the world....

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[-] TrollDestroyer2000 (17) 4 points 19 hours ago


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[-] 4 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago


He said the same thing about Bush.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

The Alex Jones freaks are here!!

[-] 3 points by LongDaysnight (354) 11 years ago

Any argument or just ad hominem?

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

HE said the same thing about Bush.

What else do you need to know?

Are you new to prisonplanet?

[-] 3 points by LongDaysnight (354) 11 years ago

What does that mean? This is a book written by Obama's science czar. Was he Bushes to? I am not completely new to that site.

[-] 3 points by BridgetTheMidget (13) 11 years ago

I still don't like AJ but WTF is this?

[-] 1 points by LongDaysnight (354) 11 years ago

What don't you like about him?

[-] 1 points by BridgetTheMidget (13) 11 years ago

He is rude and he is a 1%er!!!!!

[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

You heard me.

[-] 0 points by LongDaysnight (354) 11 years ago

You and a few others seem to always be around when these fools attack.

[-] -1 points by GreedKills (1119) 11 years ago

They have been here since day one. I saw a Alex Jones video which called for infiltration of this web site and the movement it's self. Alex Jones = Ron Paul. They are here to take over not help, and it pads the pockets of the two scammers who sent these conspiracy kids. We have enough problems in this world we do not need to make up crap to fear. Sort of like the IRS agent popping out of a cake with a AK-47 and the new money Ron Paul wrote about in the 1980 and 90s.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Hey, hey, hey. Every once in a blue moon the IRS is sexy. Sometimes they do a grand-slam and I like to visualize them as jumping out of a cake with an AK-47 and a bill saying things like, "Say hello to my little friend."

I forgot about them because of the plethora of tv posts and the fact that everything was more oriented towards googly eyed RP posts.

[-] -1 points by GreedKills (1119) 11 years ago

Are you saying the IRS agent is undocumented on top of everything else??? Oh nooooo!!!! : P

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Could be. :D

[-] -1 points by GreedKills (1119) 11 years ago
[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

That was cute!

[-] 1 points by GreedKills (1119) 11 years ago

Wow, those who worship paul even hated that simple little reply!!!

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Of course they did. Ah well.

[-] 1 points by GreedKills (1119) 11 years ago

Well it is only minus three so things must be improving around here!

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

They never went away.

It's where most of the Paulie boys got their start.

Alex, did say the same thing about Bush, but I guess he gets better mileage out of the Anti_Obama crowd.

[-] 0 points by GreedKills (1119) 11 years ago

Spot on !!! This infowarrior is up to 327 posts in what 5 days now??? DisinfoWars should be his next screen name. Wonder how much money is he making for himself and Alex Jones with the clicks to these propaganda web sites???

Funny part there has been 40 years of Ron Paul hate, racism and calls for religious rule but we must consider that stuff BS yet we must take Alex Jones' interpretation of this book as fact. SMH!!!!!!

[-] 2 points by 1ofus (29) 11 years ago

I am an independent that leans to far left of progressive party. You could call me a socialist, I think we need police and fire departments and I think education and healthcare shouldn't be a privatized for profit industry. What people don't realize is this isn't a right left issue, it is an elite and everybody else issue, they own both parties. What most people don't understand is how arrogant and narcistic these people really are or how they think. What you cannot even consider, they consider as a workable option, WWIII and extermination of a large % of human population, or a controlled burn so to speak. The war machine must be stopped, as they have no intention of stopping it, instead they are planning for more war as we speak. It sounds stupid I know but the way I see it, we get more BS and illusion with Obama and we get promise to end war machine with Paul and even though his social policies are a bunch of shit we get more with him than we do with the dip stick we have now. It sure looks like Paul is not part of the elites plan as both sides are pummeling him, that is almost a good enough reason to vote for him alone.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23729) 11 years ago

My first reaction is that this is fear mongering. However, Holdren did say these things. Has anyone here read the entire book? It is hard to find an unbiased source but here is a pretty good article that talks about how when he said these things he truly believed the world was in an immediate population crisis. Evidently he no longer feels this way.


[-] 2 points by Gillian (1842) 11 years ago

It's not so much about controlling population levels as it is controlling the gene pool. Most governments want people to have children, lots of them. Problem is that they only want a select group of people making babies. I began to notice that certain medical procedures like hysterectomies were being performed more frequently in low income communities on women who were not even 30 years old. I can only speculate that there may have been some financial incentive involved. I've also taken note of where certain epidemics of viruses and other diseases seem to coincide with aggressive marketing campaigns for certain medications or vaccines. Do your homework, research and take note of such events and draw your own conclusions.
Read about the TMAP: The Texas Algorithm Project ( another one of the activities that seemed to ring a tone of human genocide in my opinion) http://medicalwhistleblower.blogspot.com/2011/10/contrived-shortages-of-drugs-and.html

[-] 0 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 11 years ago

I think you need to view your assumptions more from a nurture point of view than from the nature side of the ledger. I see the same phenomena, but I believe low income people make a conscious decision to get hysterectomies. But the financial incentive, I believe, is in the opposite direction then you may see it. I don't believe as many working class people are hopped up on the American dream as once were, and instead of breading without no way to pay for their actions, they choose to be responsible and get hysterectomies.

[-] 1 points by Gillian (1842) 11 years ago

You are correct that many women in the US are choosing not to have children due to the poor economic climate but I don't agree that this is the reason for increased hysterectomies in minority and or low income families. Why not perform a tubal ligation vs a hysterectomy? Most women cannot even get a tubal ligation during their prime reproductive years without being counselled- much less a hysterectomy unless there is a life threatening condition. Most doctors won't perform such an invasive, permanently life-altering surgery unless it's deemed medically necessary.

A few years ago I noticed a bizarre trend in small town, rural southern America and so I went into specific rural areas and interviewed women in southern counties ( Alabama, SC, NC and VA) where the rate of hysterectomies were the highest. My reasons for doing this had nothing to do with any formal research at the time..it's a long story but it was a dear friend who inspired me to investigate based on her own experience of having a hysterectomy at age 25). All of the women were told they needed a hysterectomy and when I asked them why and reviewed their medical history, there was no pre-existing condition that warranted such surgery and they told me that they allowed it because they trusted their doctor. All the women told me that they did not believe that they really needed one. Most of the women had two children and about 10 percent of them had 3. Most of the women were married and none of them were college grads although some did have some college. All the women that I spoke to were African American women between ages of 25 and 35. One of the counties that I studied revealed an interesting statistic. The average median income for the county jumped to 64, 000 per household- a 23,000 dollar increase in 2004 from a fairly steady 40,000 in previous years. Between 2004 and 2006, these women all received hysterectomies ( not voluntary and again, had no medical condition that warranted such surgery) within a year of giving birth to their youngest child. The demographics of this county indicated that there were 90 percent caucasian and 9 percent African American. 9 percent of the population lived below poverty levels- women earned substantially less than men in this county as well. Again, draw your own conclusions.

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 11 years ago

Wow, I am thunder struck. That is some scary stuff. Although, I don't believe the doctors were taking orders from higher ups; they were probably, and this is where I am pontificating, doing it because of their own bias. I believe that dirt poor is the fertile foundation from which greatness grows. This is my bias. You need to struggle to take pride in what you have, and when it is given to you, you grow into a shrub. I believe those who pulled their selves up buy my line of reasoning and would never institute such mandates when they become law makers. That is if I am to take the American psyche half way seriously. Also, I believe that is why the federal government subsidizes procreation in the lower class. or it is they are not as monstrous as some would believe. As for states--especially the ones you labeled 'cause I've never lived or visited them--they could see thing differently.

[-] 1 points by Gillian (1842) 11 years ago

Yep, pretty sickening. Check this out:http://www.hsl.virginia.edu/historical/eugenics/4-influence.cfm

I began reading a book called , " The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks" about a black woman in rural VA whose genes were used without her family's permission. I won't go into all the details but I highly recommend this book. I think you would find it to be very difficult to put down. I agree with you that the doctors were making calls based on their racial elitist bias but I also believe the local elites influenced much of that criminal medicine. The counties that I visited were also representative of much of the US where there was a very wealthy elite and then there were these pockets of poverty that represented a very small fraction of the overall population but even so, the poor, uneducated were reproducing at a much younger age and producing more children than the average white middle and upper class. There was no doubt a lot of elitism and racism in those areas. The government does subsidize procreation- most governments do for obvious reasons. But, eugenics is always at work in the minds of our leaders. The elderly and the poor are the most abused people in this country and it's only going to get much worse. Medicine is one of the easiest routes to controlling a population.

[-] 2 points by TrollDestroyer2000 (29) 11 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f3heabUwTU Our freind Mr Rockerfeller brought this up before the UN Listen and be disturbed.

[-] 0 points by LongDaysnight (354) 11 years ago

Good video.

[-] 2 points by BridgetTheMidget (13) 11 years ago

WTF, I must be in bizarro Alex Jones world!!! I wanted to prove you wrong but then I found the book.

[-] 3 points by JimBeam (152) 11 years ago

Yup, it's absolutly true. I couldn't believe it either.

[-] 1 points by nachosrulz (63) from Eureka, CA 11 years ago

theyd have to kill me first

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 11 years ago

prison planet

now there's a credible source

[-] 0 points by LongDaysnight (354) 11 years ago

Every thing stated about this book can be easily proven all you have to do is open your eyes and look but we know you can't fact check you are on dial-up right?

[-] 1 points by aahpat (1407) 11 years ago

This is truly insane!


Your one of those people who need to find someone else to blame when you can''t make your little wee-wee stand up straight.

[-] -1 points by LongDaysnight (354) 11 years ago

Now you deny reality, just open your eyes you can find the book it is real. Anyone that chooses to find out if it is real can find out very quickly and easily. So your knee jerk reaction makes you look like a fool, notice almost no one else says it's made up. NOW you are the conspiracy theorist, go get your foil hat, aahpat!!

[-] 1 points by capella (199) 11 years ago

margaret sanger ( planned parenthood) believed in eugenics, so did teddy roosevelt, george bernard shaw and hitler. quite a group.


[-] 0 points by LongDaysnight (354) 11 years ago

Our dear leaders ... puke

[-] 1 points by Renaye (522) 11 years ago

Its about effin time this information got into OWS. I've been trying to introduce this for a long time. Now that all the psycho laws are being exposed, people will open their minds a little more. Its shocking, I know. When I "WOKE UP" and started going to the alternate media instead of propaganda tv, it took me weeks to get over the shock of the truth. The fact is that the real history and current events are so far removed from the reality that we have been indoctrinated with are like two parallel universes.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

It was written in '77', there was an over population scare going on then.

Several books were written on the subject.

Some were calling for euthanasia.

Alex, uses whichever one gets the most hits.

He's been pushing it for many years.

[-] 2 points by LongDaysnight (354) 11 years ago

That does very little to relieve my mind, this guy is a psychopath!!!

[-] 1 points by BridgetTheMidget (13) 11 years ago

I would agree.

[-] 0 points by capella (199) 11 years ago

euthanasia is mercy killing( terminally ill person in uncontrollable pain) eugenics is genocide.

[-] -1 points by LongDaysnight (354) 11 years ago

You and your troll buddy's are such control freaks.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

And you and your troll buddies are such trolls.


[-] 0 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 11 years ago

Eugenics, are there people that want you dead?


the feeling is completely mutual

[-] 0 points by foreeverLeft (-264) 11 years ago

Why are you people so surprised? Depopulation has always been the goal of the left. Why do you think "sustainability" is so huge? It's code for depopulation. If you dig deep enough you'll find they believe a 95% decline in world population is optimal, wouldn't want to be African, Chinese or Hispanic!

[-] -1 points by PileOfSmegAKAZenDog (-30) 11 years ago

Cool, I agree with most of this stuff and had no idea Obama picked such brilliant people!

[-] -1 points by capella (199) 11 years ago

Hordren also thinks the "aborting " a baby up to 2 years old is O.K. His reasoning is that a child less than 2 yrs old doesn't understand the concept of "tomorrow".

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Oh for fucks sake. It's eugenics NOT euogenics.

[-] 2 points by LongDaysnight (354) 11 years ago

lol I told you i have dyslexia, don't hate me ill fix it for you.

[-] 1 points by capella (199) 11 years ago

margaret sanger ( planned parenhood) was a proponent of eugenics, so was teddy roosevelt, george bernard shaw and and hitler. some group.

[-] 1 points by GreedKills (1119) 11 years ago

Look up Sir Francis Galton, Charles Davenport, Cold Spring Harbor and fitter family contests. Do this yourself not via Alex Jones and learn history. The South practiced eugenics into the 90s.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Laughlin as well. Yep.

[-] 1 points by LongDaysnight (354) 11 years ago

Just find that book i mention above, you will know how these mass murders think.

[-] -1 points by LongDaysnight (354) 11 years ago

Why are you always so mad, chill out and debate throwing fits will not help.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

You aren't about debate. You are about fearmongering and bullshit.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 11 years ago

I agree.

[-] 0 points by LongDaysnight (354) 11 years ago

HAHAHA The spam king saying i don't want to debate. That is precious Thrasy, want your bah bah now?