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Forum Post: End the prohibition of drugs!

Posted 2 years ago on April 3, 2012, 3:10 p.m. EST by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA
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From CNN "Over the past five years, nearly 48,000 people have been killed in suspected drug-related violence in Mexico, the country's federal attorney general announced this month. In the first three quarters of 2011, almost 13,000 people died."

If this number is even close to being correct, how can anyone in there right mind continue the prohibition of drugs? It is a crime to export violence to other countries instead of handling the problem here.

How does this tie into occupy? The police state feeds off prohibition. More cops, more lawyers, more prisons, more taxes, more crime, more broken families, more death. And it will never solve the problem.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/15/world/mexico-drug-war-essay/index.html

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[-] 2 points by FriendlyObserverB (1871) 2 years ago

In a society where we were all pulling together, we would be more concerned with those falling behind. But as society stands today we can simply look the other way .

Alcohol drinking establishments are making huge money and not at all concerned with the effects it has on their patrons lives. When it comes to money nothing else matters to a business man.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

It really is about population control, some drug use reduces the desire to buy crap, except junk food, also reduces ambition, useful for the bosses but mostly just gives the workers, ulcers.

I may not be willing to go as wide as you would, but believe me I know this is about a lot more than just "the children".

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

Did you guys see this ?

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

thanks for the link

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

You are welcome. :D

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

Agreed

[-] 0 points by JIFFYSQUID92 (-994) from Portland, OR 2 years ago

Get Out the Vote this November!

If YOU don't Vote, YOU don't Count!!!

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[-] 0 points by Quark3 (54) 2 years ago

There is a far simpler solution. Don't do drugs or sell drugs. This makes it the person's responsibility something that most people shrug off.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I could say the same about guns, and sugar, what gives you the right to say what others sell and buy?

[-] 0 points by Quark3 (54) 2 years ago

Drugs kill the brain, body, & soul. It seems to be happening to you because you think I wrote what others should sell or buy by law. I only wrote don't do or sell drugs. This way each person takes personal responsibility for their own life & actions without the blame game. I didn't write anything about making a law. Drugs will hamper any movement. That is a Fact incontrovertibly. Don't blame me. I didn't make the natural laws of the universe, but I try my best not to exist in Denial to these natural laws.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

oh and by the way manners are good for the soul too

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

hey el stupido maybe you should trun on and tune in, thre post concerns legal issues, who gives a crap about your personel choices

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[-] 0 points by DemandTheGoodLifeDotCom (3213) from New York, NY 2 years ago

The use of drugs has killed far more than the 48,000 that died from making it illegal. And if you legalized it, it would kill even more.

Addicts don't belong in jail, but I do believe the state should use force to medically intervene when drug use becomes a problem with perhaps making rehab mandatory.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

If your next door neighbor had a shootout during a drug sale and a stray bullet killed your son, who would be responsible for his death? Your neighbor of course. America is the neighbor who pulls the trigger every time we refuse to take responsibility for our drug problem. Legalizing drugs will end the violence, both here and abroad, just as it did when prohibition was ended in the 30's. We have absolutely no right to endanger other people worldwide. The buck must stop at our border!

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (26864) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Not that I am for drugs - but you have a misconception about people and prohibition. As to how many have died using drugs - could that be due in some small part to toxic street product or uncontrolled street manufacturing process or avoidance of medical care due to legality?

Look at Amsterdam they seem to be doing just fine, for having legalized drugs. The fact of the matter " is " that there will " always " be those who will experiment with the forbidden, there will always be those who will make the forbidden a part of their life style. There are those who will use the forbidden just like those who use alcohol responsibly or not, depending on the individual. There will always be those who will find themselves at the mercy of their addiction just like with alcohol.

So what is it better to do? What is it possible to do? Drug eradication has not worked. Can it work? Multi-Billions of dollars being made in illegal drugs, and just look how effective prohibition was on alcohol.

just sayin - look at this realistically. Not with a wish and a dream for a perfect world with perfect people - we are a long ways from that kind of maturity yet.

[-] 1 points by DemandTheGoodLifeDotCom (3213) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Drugs kill because they are poison, not because the poison isn't manufactured properly.

I am not all that informed on Amsterdam but I don't they legalized drugs there. I believe they just decriminalized the use of pot.

Saying drug prohibition has not worked because people still do drugs is not true. It far less prevalent because it is illegal.

There are 200,000 deaths per year from illegal drugs. There are 7 million deaths per year from the legal ones - alcohol and tobacco.

I would say alcohol prohibition was effective. Use dropped dramatically.

I think the sensible thing to do is sentence addicts to rehab, not jail and guarantee everyone a high-paying job so that there is no incentive to deal drugs.

[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (26864) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Nope they legalized all kinds of drugs. They even have state run shooting galleries ( heroin - methadone ) staffed with medical personnel and Dr.s

I agree drugs are poison and so is alcohol. That is not stopping anyone from using either.

Rehab only works if the individual is there because they want to be.

[-] -1 points by SteveKJR (-497) 2 years ago

And the reason for the 48,000 people who have been killed is to support the habit of the 21 million American druggies. It's the people in this country who are causing the deaths because of their drug usage. Sleeze bag American Druggies.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

When we invaded Afghanistan in 2001, the Taliban had successfully cut opium production by 90%. By 2007 opium production increased 20 times right under the nose of our occupation forces. Afghanistan produces between 50% an 90% of the world opium supply. Some would argue that is why we are there, to protect the opium. We are scheduled to pullout in 2014. Twelve years of war and still we are defeated. Billions are made by the manufacture of both legal and illegal narcotics. What do you think is the U.S. motive?

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

It's the prohibition that is killing the Mexicans. Prohibition forces violence out of the US into the countries that produce it and transport it. Prohibition in the 20's killed innocent people in America because alcohol was locally produced.

We should grow the pot here and treat it just like alcohol. I don't support it's use, but the people have a right to put what they wish into their bodies.