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Forum Post: Elections are for Media like Christmas is for Retailers

Posted 8 years ago on May 12, 2015, 10:40 p.m. EST by windyacres (1197)
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Why would anyone in the media be against limiting money spent on elections? How many billions would they stand to lose? I'm open to explanations.

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[-] 3 points by elf3 (4203) 8 years ago

Good way of putting it! ...fat cat Friday?

[-] 3 points by lugano (1221) 8 years ago

Corporate MSM are not against ''limiting money spent on elections'' ... because so much of that money funnels to them. I don't think that those Turkeys will vote for Thanksgiving! Solidarity - and a link for you http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/Time-to-Ditch-Lesser-Evilism-in-USA-20150508-0016.html Ciao.

[-] 1 points by windyacres (1197) 8 years ago

Thanks for the link to that article, I really enjoyed reading it. Another hopeful sign that more people are ready for other options than the only two evil options we are forced to choose from now. Good explanations why apparent differences in the parties don't hold up under scrutiny.

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[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

[-] 3 points by lugano (985) 5 hours ago

That article encapsulated many of the criticisms of a Two Party Tyranny, really well and gave reasons for hope too. Thank you for your graceful reply. We do what we can for a better tomorrow for the kids.

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12th track: (Hiding in plain sight) "we get really strident with this - when we feel we need to reapply shredded cover"

All it requires - is - enough expressed vitriol for the system in general - and many will believe you mean it - while one need not provide any supporting substance.

(part 2)

When the 1st part is not enough we also love to pretend to support protest and things (whatever is handy) - helps to throw off suspicion.

  • by (mdonelly & turbocharger - harmonizing - the Cronies singing back-up)

8th track: (False flag) "We tear down the dems and even independent socialists who are forced to run as a dem in order to have a chance to compete - but you will not hear us go after any rethuglican no matter how actively evil they are - the furthest we will generally go - is to conflate the dems with the rethuglicans - does it make you wonder?"

Because you know we're all about them Dems,

'Bout them Dems, not Rethuglicans

we're all about them Dems, 'bout them Dems, not Rethuglicans

we're all about them Dems, 'bout them Dems, not Rethuglicans

we're all about them Dems, 'bout them Dems, not Rethuglicans

.......

Because you know we're all about them Dems,

'Bout them Dems, not Rethuglicans

  • by (mdonelly, turbocharger & the Cronies singing back-up)

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[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

[-] 3 points by lugano (1053) 2 hours ago

Are you actually short on meds?

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10th track: (Tossing Shit)

As We have nothing to back-up our stated positions (opt-out fiction) - We will do our best to throw it back on ( put a lie on) any who would ask for details of our non-existent action plans (Ya know......those who put the lie - "to shine the light" - on our bullshit).

  • by (mdonelly & turbocharger - harmonizing - the Cronies singing back-up)

13th track: (Stinkle teaming away) "one of our very favorites - we can bully and manipulate the boards by teaming up to stinkle comments or twinkle our BS - but we really hate it if anyone calls us out on it - and it drives us insane if we are subjected to anything like it ourselves."

Stinkle teaming away Stinkle teaming away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

We know a man He came from my hometown He shared his passion for this world in deeds that needed to be done

He said, world, I live in fear My love for you’s so overpowering and I’m afraid that you will be disappeared”

We had stinkle teamed Him away Stinkle teamed Him away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

And, We know a woman Became an advocate to support life These are the very words she uses to describe her life She said, “A good day Ain’t got no stinkle team” She said, “A bad day’s when I lie in bed And think of things that should have been”

We had stinkle teamed Her away Stinkle teamed Her away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

And We know a father Who had a son He longed to tell him all the reasons For the things that needed be done He came a long way Just to explain He kissed his boy as he lay sleeping Then he turned around and headed home again

We had stinkle teamed Him away Stinkle teamed Him away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

We say "God only knows God makes his plan" We say "The information’s unavailable To the mortal man" We want You to work your jobs Collect your pay To believe you’re gliding down the highway When in fact you’ve been stinkle teamed away

Stinkle teaming away Stinkle teaming away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

  • by (mdonelly & turbocharger - harmonizing - the Cronies singing back-up) "Sung to the tune of Paul Simon's - Slip Sliding Away"
[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 8 years ago

This OWS forum is still an active face of a wider movement. When you Google search OWS this forum is first or second search item with the OWS Wiki page. I still think that this place matters - otherwise I would not be here. I thank the ''radicals'' who brought us this place - no matter what they are doing now.

The arguments that we have here are actually important because they happen out there too - perhaps not enough though. There are waaaaay more readers of this site than there are posters. What we say matters - if only a tiny bit. Agreement + disagreement is ok - and ever should it be such, but I do NOT appreciate comments being gratuitously ''Removed'' though! That stinks of censorship + manipulation.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1065) 3 minutes ago

This OWS forum is still an active face of a wider movement. When you Google search OWS this forum is first or second search item with the OWS Wiki page. I still think that this place matters - otherwise I would not be here. I thank the ''radicals'' who brought us this place - no matter what they are doing now.

The arguments that we have here are actually important because they happen out there too - perhaps not enough though. There are waaaaay more readers of this site than there are posters. What we say matters - if only a tiny bit. Agreement + disagreement is ok - and ever should it be such, but I do NOT appreciate comments being gratuitously ''Removed'' though! That stinks of censorship + manipulation.

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12th track: (Hiding in plain sight) "Also known as trying to hide in the light"

We get really strident with this - when we feel we need to reapply shredded cover

All it requires - is - enough expressed vitriol for the system in general - and many will believe you mean it - while one need not provide any supporting substance.

(part 2)

When the 1st part is not enough we also love to pretend to support protest and things (whatever is handy) - helps to throw off suspicion.

  • by (mdonelly & turbocharger - harmonizing - the Cronies singing back-up)

13th track: (Stinkle teaming away) "one of our very favorites - we can bully and manipulate the boards by teaming up to stinkle comments or twinkle our BS - but we really hate it if anyone calls us out on it - and it drives us insane if we are subjected to anything like it ourselves."

Stinkle teaming away Stinkle teaming away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

We know a man He came from my hometown He shared his passion for this world in deeds that needed to be done

He said, world, I live in fear My love for you’s so overpowering and I’m afraid that you will be disappeared”

We had stinkle teamed Him away Stinkle teamed Him away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

And, We know a woman Became an advocate to support life These are the very words she uses to describe her life She said, “A good day Ain’t got no stinkle team” She said, “A bad day’s when I lie in bed And think of things that should have been”

We had stinkle teamed Her away Stinkle teamed Her away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

And We know a father Who had a son He longed to tell him all the reasons For the things that needed be done He came a long way Just to explain He kissed his boy as he lay sleeping Then he turned around and headed home again

We had stinkle teamed Him away Stinkle teamed Him away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

We say "God only knows God makes his plan" We say "The information’s unavailable To the mortal man" We want You to work your jobs Collect your pay To believe you’re gliding down the highway When in fact you’ve been stinkle teamed away

Stinkle teaming away Stinkle teaming away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

  • by (mdonelly & turbocharger - harmonizing - the Cronies singing back-up) "Sung to the tune of Paul Simon's - Slip Sliding Away"

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[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

[-] 1 points by lugano (1089) 3 minutes ago

I really don't know why you're using ''we'' as you don't speak for me OR anyone else! The DNC, perhaps but not for anyone else. You are fresh out of friends here and have burnt more bridges than you thought you had and you ought never have read - ''How To Lose Friends and Not Influence People''! I can do little more than recommend... http://www.leftforum.org/ and try to wish you well with your protracted recovery.

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15th track "(things that we really really really hate)"

For example - when our tactics get thrown back in our face.

We complain - but - it is more than just a little lame - because truth be told - bottom line - at the best - we are being - hypocritical.

But damn we hate it after all of these years to have our tinkle/stinkle team tactics made moot.

  • by (mdonelly & turbocharger - harmonizing - the Cronies singing back-up)

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[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1186) 0 minutes ago

You're achieving nothing bar avoiding http://www.leftforum.org/ lol + ''Time to Ditch Lesser Evilism in USA'' By Joe Emersberger - http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/Time-to-Ditch-Lesser-Evilism-in-USA-20150508-0016.html

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1st track: (Dancing) "ooo look something shiny"

dancing............ Dancing............. DANCING................ we're a dancing machine

Ah baby

Move it baby

dancing . . . Dancing . . . DANCING . . .

. . . . we're a dancing machine . . . Ah baby

Move it baby

We dance to avoid to evade as we got nothing to provide . . . . Who needs substance - dancing is easier to do then actually most anything else . . . . . .

cause we're dancing............ Dancing............. DANCING................ we're a dancing machine . . . . . . ooo LOOK something shiny . . . . .

  • "Our theme song" - by (mdonelly, turbocharger and the Cronies)
[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 8 years ago

You're achieving nothing bar avoiding http://www.leftforum.org/ lol + ''Time to Ditch Lesser Evilism in USA'' By Joe Emersberger - http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/Time-to-Ditch-Lesser-Evilism-in-USA-20150508-0016.html You'll drive yourself (even further) nuts before the "radicals" here will give up.

Removing comments; preventing free and fair exchange between posters; freezing ''points'' and trying to subverting this OWS forum shows your real nature to everyone. Your loyalties are not to Occupy Ideals.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1223) 0 minutes ago

Just note the ''Removed'' reply comments here - http://occupywallst.org/forum/give-class-war-a-chance/ to disprove your lie and I note that you're about to sit there and monopolise by in-tray and time again because that counts as attention in your sad existence. I have to go get on with thngs but feel free to spew some more as I'll get to it and put you right again later.

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Blah blah blah blah blah repeats you the foaming at the mouth individual who supports the control of power by the 1% by trying to get the people to opt out of owning government.

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 8 years ago

Nothing ''Left'' but brainfarting from the ''Right'' and lazy boy copy/pasting from your 'La-Z-Boy' .. right? I'll deal with the tedium of replying to you by repeating and cross linking to my previous replies to your crap ie... http://occupywallst.org/forum/all-one-really-needs-to-know-about-the-tpp-history/#comment-1059747 + http://occupywallst.org/forum/give-class-war-a-chance/#comment-1059750 + http://www.leftforum.org/

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1223) 5 minutes ago

Does it? I will take my reality over yours, any time. Shadow Banning comments such that only the person making them and such that others can not see replies made to them ... IS 'removing' those comments for all intents and purposes. The tedium that you will induce in others is clear because the rest of us can't just sit and live on the forum.

Anyway try this for perspective - http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/30853-forty-acres-and-a-mule-would-be-at-least-6-4-trillion-today-what-the-us-really-owes-black-america and try to desist from melting down.

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Your comments and your buddies comments have not been removed - they still exist in plain sight for ALL to see.

What pisses you off is that I added a translation "key" to the bottom of your comments rather than let your BS go unchallenged. The attached translation "key" allows other readers an opportunity to really examine what you have said not just in the single comment but in your wider comment activity.

And of course You are pissed off because you can no longer control the Best Comment Board.

Too Bad So Sad for you.

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 8 years ago

Just note the ''Removed'' reply comments here; http://occupywallst.org/forum/give-class-war-a-chance/ to disprove your lie and I note that you're about to sit there and monopolise my in-tray and time again because that counts as attention in your sad existence. I have to go get on with things but feel free to spew some more as I'll get to it and put you right again later. Heard about http://www.leftforum.org/ ?

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1223) 5 hours ago

You're achieving nothing bar avoiding http://www.leftforum.org/ lol + ''Time to Ditch Lesser Evilism in USA'' By Joe Emersberger - http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/Time-to-Ditch-Lesser-Evilism-in-USA-20150508-0016.html You'll drive yourself (even further) nuts before the "radicals" here will give up.

Removing comments; preventing free and fair exchange between posters; freezing ''points'' and trying to subverting this OWS forum shows your real nature to everyone. Your loyalties are not to Occupy Ideals.

↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

No comments have been removed. It really sucks to be you doesn't it.

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 8 years ago

Does it? I will take my reality over yours, any time. Shadow Banning comments such that only the person making them and such that others can not see replies made to them ... IS 'removing' those comments for all intents and purposes. The tedium that you will induce in others is clear because the rest of us can't just sit and live on the forum.

Anyway try this for perspective - http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/30853-forty-acres-and-a-mule-would-be-at-least-6-4-trillion-today-what-the-us-really-owes-black-america but try to desist from melting down.

[-] 2 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 8 years ago

Some of the people that I know in our struggle have no formal education (like me:) unlike, the many that I do know with tons of degrees. But the ones who experienced the hardships of the deleterious effects brought on by the oligarchy, most often articulate the reasons for us being here the best. My point; Whether or not you have a degee, that was a super thread, and we should be encouraged by the diversity in our movement... and in knowing it is being fought on multiple levels.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 8 years ago

the big media including public television follows the "major" party candidates

therefor "news" reports is all about those parties

regardless of money spent

[-] 3 points by windyacres (1197) 8 years ago

Isn't that where all of the money is? How could they support ending Citizens United or any limits on campaign spending without recognizing that they would simply be supporting taking money out of their own bank account? The media knows that the more money spent during election season, the better for them.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 8 years ago

got it

but I don't believe our money system supports much semblance to supply and demand

some have 10 times the money than most and they determine what they choose to pay for

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