Forum Post: Does anyone really get it!
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 25, 2011, 8:22 a.m. EST by moustaffa
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Having traveled the world extensively, be happy your here. There is no greater country on the face of the earth. Folks at OWS have no idea what they want with except that they want it for free. If its a job you want go to North Dakota. If you want to make our system better than establish a real platform. If you want anarchy and Chaos then just get on a plan and go to Somalia. Its all there for the taking but you have to go get it. Everyone who goes outside in the rain gets wet. We are all the same. Stop complaining if you don't have an umbrella. GO GET IT!!!!!!
you are full of shit..it really is that simple. I don't usually take the time to respond to this type of stupidity but it really is time to get you assholes off this forum.
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I kind of get the feeling that the folks at OWS, while they seem to be complaining, actually DO love this country. In fact, that seems to be the whole point. They want to be Active Participants in it. It seems to me that they did go and get the metaphorical "umbrella". Which in this case happens to be their first amendment rights to peaceably assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Now, I don't agree with everything every supporter of this movements says and does, but I am damn proud of these people for having the courage to stand up and be heard.
i said on another topic:
Your top priorities differ from her top priorities differs from his top priorities. Therefore the priority is to hold a National General Assembly (NGA) where a list of top priorities can be hammered out coming from the roots, what I call the congressional District General Assemblies (DGA's) or 'spokes councils'. It is the final 'official' act of the NYCGA to announce the NGA.
OWS exercised its 1st Amendment right to peaceably assemble.
OWS MUST exercise its 1st Amendment right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
This is the one thing 100% of Americans will understand.
Amen-please add your sentiments to our forum -we need to be a nexus http://occupywallst.org/forum/interesting-read-about-the-constitution-and-corpor/#comment-413890
I figure, even if the poster doesn't benefit from the response, someone else may. I think we should encourage open dialog here, anything else is dogma.
Absolutely. I can learn from anyone in the process of untangling whatever their position seems to be...and someone reading that can advance theirs, or at least gain perspective-please read our forum. Thanks!!
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Why you are a fascist:
http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/what-conservatism-really-means/
I find our elected officials incompetent to govern. They need some incentive that will mean something to them instead of putting funds at risk that will cause harm to those persons and institutions who can least afford such loss. I suggest that these officials’ pay and/or benefits be cut if and/or when they fail to do their job. As it is, party “a” threatens to harm parties “”d” through “z” if parties “b” and “c” can’t come to an agreement. It makes no sense whatsoever to threaten Congress with cuts that will not have any impact on them directly. Our Constitution establishes the type of government we are to have. We do not need to establish any “sub” groups within these institutions. They are all responsible collectively to govern and if/when they fail to do so they are all liable collectively. The “carrot and stick” method only works when the carrot or stick is guaranteed to the same one. These officials have received their carrot upon being elected as they shall receive full pay and full benefits for the rest of their life even if they only serve one term. I say put all options “on the table” including their lifetime pay and benefits. I’m of the position that such a “stick” would cause these officials to get their head out of the clouds and their feet on the ground.
Ahh, another (recent?) imbiber of The National 'Koolade' of the 'American Dream' ; of 'rugged individualism and self-reliance' at home ... and incessant Empire abroad .. with little appreciation, knowledge or experience of 'Community and Society', thus evoking a visceral disdain of all things 'Occupy'.
respice ; adspice ; prospice ...
How about if you want real democracy? I've seen more of that in evey encampment I have visited than anywhere else in the United States, which is exactly why they constitute a model for a more loving, just, egalitarian, peaceful and democratic society.
I assure you, on the OWS - different people. For me to complain - very boring. I need specifics. For the sake of it, I came here.
I'd say we are equal to and no greater than any of our foreign brothers and sisters. Many countries have problems we don't and many have benefits we don't. We have more freedom in some ways and less in others (and vice versa). I have faith in the American people though to save our country and make it even better than it has ever been.
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