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Forum Post: Defacing 'Occupy Unmasked' – Andrew Breitbart's Final Opus is a Steaming Pile of Propaganda

Posted 1 year ago on Sept. 8, 2012, 9:29 p.m. EST by Archimedes (6) from Siracusa, Sicily
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Imagine that you're making a documentary about baseball. But instead of filming from the sidelines, reading up on the sport, and interviewing players, you boldly bombard the mound, kick the pitcher in the dick, and record the crowd's reaction. You'd probably end up with a movie about angry baseball fans, and perhaps even be able to pepper it with footage of yourself getting tackled by infielders. What you wouldn't have, though, is a complete portrayal of the game itself, or an accurate depiction of the players.

That's essentially the forced approach taken in Occupy Unmasked, a hysterically loaded new film from posthumous provocateur Andrew Breitbart and his cohorts at Citizens United. Rather than tread lightly to capture subjects in their natural routines, here director Stephen Bannon and producer David Bossie poke the hornet's nest, knowing damn well that they'll get some buzz. It's the filmmaking equivalent to, say, dressing up like a pimp to entrap a social justice agency.

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Shot from the perspective of an outside agitator, Occupy Unmasked is for the most part an hour-and-a-half long hit job on community organizers, who are broad-brushed as a gang of “anarchists, socialists, and communists” that began planning Occupy and “the destruction of America” while helping with relief efforts in New Orleans. It's not enough that conservative leaders ignored and then abandoned Hurricane Katrina victims; in Breitbart's world, the bleeding hearts who volunteered just did so in order to plot an uprising years later.

It gets better. According to this account, people only occupied Wall Street because organizers promised a Radiohead show. Then there's the impossible claim that Occupy is a “dictatorship” that's run by Anonymous – a statement that reveals not just a loose understanding of facts, but of the English language itself. As icing, there's also an unsubstantiated charge that Occupiers planned assassinations in their tents, plus a whole lot of condemnation for “raping,” “pillaging,” and “pooping.”

Token tall tales aside, Occupy Unmasked is more than just a cornucopia of inaccuracies. Between so much trite baloney – like the lasting line that Occupiers are all “young, white, liberal elites” – there are some actual truths. Narrators state, quite correctly, that protesters don't get much media attention unless there are arrests or violence. That's an unfortunate reality, but one that even few sympathizers would deny. The same goes for a statement that Occupy is “the convergence of disparate groups.” You're damn right it is.

The irony, of course, is that you don't need to employ bullshit to effectively attack Occupy. Especially as numbers dwindle, and as those who remain in the movement tussle over nonsense and seem incapable of moving forward. Not surprisingly, though, the researchers behind Unmasked didn't bother to analyze the actual operations, or to interview some eloquent defenders of the movement who tend to be critical. Instead, they offer cherry-picked bloopers from select participants who are unable to articulate their grievances.

For universal appeal, Occupy Unmasked will certainly incense everyone who sees it. The crowd at the Republican National Convention screening, who already fear that their suburban enclaves will be infiltrated by progressive goons, grew visibly afraid – that's the point of propaganda. On the other hand, anyone who spent significant time at Occupy camps will be aggravated by the deliberate one-sidedness, and by the dizzying repetitive loop of the same few violent outbursts from last fall.

While this film is offensive for its superficiality, the even bigger insult comes from the alleged motivation driving it. “Andrew did not tolerate bullies,” according to Larry Solov, Breitbart's business partner and friend since childhood. “And he saw [those in the Occupy movement] as a bunch of bullies.” That's an especially sick assertion considering how much more the movie sympathizes for the children of despised Bank of America executives than it does for kids who are poverty-stricken.

The notion that this was Breitbart's “last great major work,” as noted by Citizens United president David Bossi at the RNC premiere, truly demonstrates what hacks they both are. Admittedly, filmmakers only went to nine occupied cities in making Unmasked; that despite their bottomless budget, and there having at one point been more than 1500 active camps. This lackadaisical myopia is perfectly exemplified in one Breitbart soliloquy about union involvement, in which he admits, “all I needed to find out about Occupy I learned at Occupy LA.”

But that's Breitbart in the nutshell that was his hard-right bubble, where his legacy is sheathed by countless fluffers who defend his cheap excuse for tabloid journalism. For them, and for anyone else who worships this kind of conspiratorial trash, Occupy Unmasked is tantamount to hardcore porn. In introducing the film in Tampa, Minnesota congresswoman Michele Bachmann noted that “everyone who Breitbart ever met thought he was their best friend.” I guess you'd have to be to think his final opus is anything but a disgrace.

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[-] 3 points by MaryS (678) 1 year ago

What I really want to know is, what is the ultimate answer for propaganda? Maybe I'm naive to even think there is an answer but I've been asking myself this question for years and I have no idea how it will play out or how it ends. Are people more indoctrinated than ever before or am I just more aware of it? Just got through reading Hedges "Empire of Illusion" and am totally bummed.

[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

ATTACK. Acorn should have attacked Breitbart from the getgo. Howard Dean should have attacked the MSM for that fraudulent scream video (a special mike cut out the crowd noise, he had to yell to get over the crowd's roar).

Goebels would be envious of he 1%er's media (sic).

[-] 2 points by MaryS (678) 1 year ago

Maybe the very thing that helps the lies spread like a virus, social media, will be instrumental in counteracting them as well.

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

I guess we are all waiting for Truth to light a fire.

However Breitbart and his compatriots had no shame about lying and framing, it was/is all part of the game to them. Their motto was/is whatever works.

[-] 2 points by MaryS (678) 1 year ago

I think we are all guilty of waiting. It 's hard to know what action to take but we need to make re-education of others a part of our lives no matter what else we're doing. Find a way that fits your particular skill set and do it and don't be satisfied until you figure out what that is. Just a small example, there is an artist who does portraits and mini- biographies of truth tellers. His website is Americans Who Tell The Truth. Being used in schools. Yes, Bernie is on the list :). http://www.americanswhotellthetruth.org/ I think we have to be far more proactive and creative about it than we've ever thought of being before and each person has to make up their mind that they will make it one of their causes.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

The support for and teaching of - GOOD VALUES.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

What is to be done about advertizing? It was always my understanding that the FCC was to monitor truth in advertising. So I would say that this is another issue of an institution not doing it's job on enforcing laws or their own legal mandate.


Propaganda From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search This article is about the form of communication. For other uses, see Propaganda (disambiguation). Italian/French Propaganda Postcard from World War I era showing a caricature of Kaiser Wilhelm II biting into the world Poster for Thirteenth Naval District, United States Navy, showing a rat representing Japan, approaching a mousetrap labeled "Army, Navy, Civilian", on a background map of the Alaska Territory

Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position by presenting only one side of an argument. Propaganda is usually repeated and dispersed over a wide variety of media in order to create the chosen result in audience attitudes.

As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda, in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political or religious agenda. Propaganda can be used as a form of political warfare.

While the term propaganda has justifiably acquired a strongly negative connotation by association with its most manipulative and jingoistic examples (e.g. Nazi Propaganda used to justify the Holocaust), propaganda in its original sense was neutral, and could refer to uses that were generally benign or innocuous, such as public health recommendations, signs encouraging citizens to participate in a census or election, or messages encouraging persons to report crimes to the police, among others.

[-] 3 points by ZenDog (20593) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

well.

I'm glad to hear Breitbart is dead.

[-] 0 points by JasperAdams (12) 1 year ago

you know the occupy dream of creating a better world is dead when active members of OWS rejoice in the death of other men.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20593) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

that's just silly. I said it was ill, I don't deny it. I think the real shame is the apparent necessity of wasting some portion of his life telling lies about others as a form of political persuasion.

Surely the opinions of one individual, no matter how laudable, nor how ill, are insufficient to bring an end of any particular group - for if that were true,

[-] 1 points by JasperAdams (12) 1 year ago

we all have to become better men to create a better world.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (20593) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

so . . . what? what does that mean?

We've had social constructs where forms of neural linguistics and forms of targeted advertising were used in programs designed to cure obesity, homosexuality, and who knows what else.

What is this? Are you saying we now have another? One designed to make us all behave?

I mean, because if that is the case, I do insist, it stands as a complete violation of the Bill of Rights.

And all I can say to those who manufacture such justifications

fuck you

can you hear me?

am I talking loud enough?

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

A thousand stinkles

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20593) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I don't mind - I really don't

I just don't give a shit.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

Time to build yourself up.

[-] 0 points by JasperAdams (12) 1 year ago

i only said we must all improve ourselves to create a better world. does that simple statement deserve a fuck you?

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20593) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Is it? Is it a simple statement?

I mean, it could be, and if it truly is the representation of a single opinion, then perhaps not - perhaps it does not deserve a fuck you in the least.

If, on the other hand, it were one component of something else, something we might term . . .

  • . . . the next wave . . .

then like I keep sayin

all ah you mutherfuckers can kiss my ass.

[-] 1 points by JasperAdams (12) 1 year ago

yes. it is a simple statement.

[-] 4 points by ZenDog (20593) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

yeah-ya that's your story

and of course, one that is indisputable - for it is a simple statement. Is it part of a much larger signal? . . . . that you cannot address . . .

I don't believe most of you fuckers on here anyway. Many of you are chronic liars . . . we've seen everything from there is no global warming to oh there is but it's a minor consideration . . .

to the President is the devil incarnate to trickle down really works . . .

and voter suppression is justified because of widespread fraud and abuse of the electoral system

well. At least they got it half right. there is widespread abuse of the electoral system and there has been, going back way beyond, I am sure, that infamous

  • butterfly ballot
[-] 1 points by JasperAdams (12) 1 year ago

you call me a 'fucker' because i say we should all improve ourselves?

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20593) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

from my perspective the issue of whether or not any individual chooses to improve themselves is just that - an individual choice.

what we really need to do is stop lying while insisting that somehow

  • this is progress
[-] 1 points by JasperAdams (12) 1 year ago

stopping to lie is a way to improve ourselves.

[-] 1 points by marvelpym (-184) 1 year ago

Ask him about Princess Di and the anthrax.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Or simply make a reference to Mother Hen. He'll cluck himself into a frenzy...haha..

[-] -1 points by JasperAdams (12) 1 year ago

i rather not. this zendog seems ill. i do not want to push him.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20593) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

o that's alright.

here, if you are curious, may be a place to begin, should you desire to reinforce your current opinion.

Or you could simply turn to here if your preference is simply to entertain

right wing insanity and utter madness

[-] -1 points by podman73 (-652) 1 year ago

Your trying to reason with a dem. worker hell bent on electing obama and anything you say contrary to that will bring out his true self. (hate filled lunatic)

[-] 0 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

FLAKESnews fan eh?

Unfortunately death is sometimes the only thing that blunts such dedicated and followed bigots.

Don't worry, there's plenty more where he came from.

How do you fight bigotry in Ireland?

[-] 1 points by JasperAdams (12) 1 year ago

the best way to fight bigotry is by being honest and true. we should forgive our oppressors like Mandela did. in time, truth prevails. rejoicing over the death of other men is not the solution. hate breads hate. revenge breads revenge. we must be better than bigots. let us not drink their poison.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

We have whole media corporations full of bigots here.

I can't say I rejoiced in this mans death, but nor was I saddened by it.

The IRA has a rather violent way of dealing with bigots in Ireland.

[-] 0 points by JasperAdams (12) 1 year ago

we should be saddened by the death of every man because in a better world this is how it would be. do not copy the ways of the bigots. copy the ways of the greatest men.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

If you want to morn the passing of Idi Amin, go ahead.

I'll pass on that.

[-] 1 points by JasperAdams (12) 1 year ago

there is a difference between morning the passing of a man and rejoicing over it. in a better world men will not rejoice when other men die.

[-] 0 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

Sometimes, when the man who passed held the chains of enslavement, as in the case of Amin, many deserved to rejoice in his passing.

We are not all Buddhist monks.

[-] 1 points by JasperAdams (12) 1 year ago

we are not all great men but we must try to be if we wish to create a better world. hatred is a poison that only breads more hate.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

I hated the mans behavior.

The man himself could possibly be "cured".

So how do we deal with an entire media kingdom of hatred and bigotry?

FLAKESnews and it's parent corporation are just such a kingdom.

And they breed even more hatred and bigotry.

[-] 1 points by JasperAdams (12) 1 year ago

as i said above truth and honesty is the best cure for bigotry. hate only breads more bigotry.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

I get that part.

How to apply it in an effective way to fight an entire media kingdom of bigotry, is the question

Maxims and adages are useless against them. It's already been tried.

[-] 1 points by JasperAdams (12) 1 year ago

it takes time and perseverance but it is possible. look at the struggle for gay rights and acceptance. a few decades ago they were the scum of the land. cops beat them. everybody beat them. people kicked them out of their families. they had to hide. a few decades of perseverance of talking about the truth has changed that. now they have prominent roles in sitcoms. in many states they can get married and be proud of who they are. using hate and bigotry against bigotry seems easy and it might provide quick rewards but they won't be long lasting. only honesty and truth can bring about real change. it takes time. be patient my young padawan.

[-] 2 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

Is that a Star Wars thing? Really?

Well Darth, pretty good ignore the problem I've pointed out.

But you've only changed the subject, not addressed the problem.

What you have not done, is informed us as to how to effectively apply your principles to a media kingdom the size of FLAKESnews and Media Corp.

Like I said, maxims and adages are useless.

At least in Ireland, you don't have to worry about trying to have a conversation with someone addicted to it.

It can be very trying.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20418) 1 year ago

You are sounding like Proteus.

[-] -1 points by JasperAdams (12) 1 year ago

you are sounding like shadz66. do you always accuse new comers of being someone else? if you believe we should rejoice in the death of other men then we disagree and that is ok. you have more points and more authority than i have.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (20418) 1 year ago

Thanks for the compliment. And, no, I don't always accuse newcomers of being someone else. I only do so when they are a new moniker of a very old poster and troll, Thrasymaque. If I had the authority, I'd ban you, be sure of it.

[-] -1 points by JasperAdams (12) 1 year ago

i am not Thrasymaque. my name is jasper and i take part at the GA in dublin.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20418) 1 year ago

Yes, you are.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

trashy U R not a newbie.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago
[-] 1 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

Changing the subject and dragging me into your box?

But back on topic.......................

Like I've said many times before, you should be fighting the massive bigotry and corruption in your own State, before I will accept your take on the nation.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

I go to more actions than you do. So what more proof do you need?

I should be the one questioning your level of involvement.

Truth.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

This is another one I've already answered for you.

I won't do it again and I resent you bring it up over and over, as though it gives you some mythical high ground.

It doesn't.

Especially so when you use it as means of not addressing the issues in Florida.

Then you're just using it as an excuse.

Truth.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

This constant obsessing over Florida and what I specifically am doing. Where does this come from?

Attack others on inaction, in hopes no one really questions yours? Is that the game?

[-] 2 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

It might be a game for you.

It's not one for me.

There's 3 important things I've been called in my life.

1.) An observant motherfucker.

2.) A fighter for the little guy.

3.) A peace maker.

I use all three, every day of my life.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

His false distractions about his efforts on the ground (which everyone should question) probably indicate that he supports the massive bigotry & corruption in Fl.

That's what it sounds like to me. His personal attacks regarding your efforts reflect the same thing.

And I don't think he realizes how obvious it is, so he's probably not the sharpest tool in the shed.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Wow, you are completely missing points here.

I go to actions, many of them addressing issues in Fl. You dont.

End of story. Im not sure why you obsess over this so much, seems how you dont do anything at all. It doesnt even make any sense.

If you would like to discuss issues in Fl, then come to florida. Theres plenty of stuff going on.

Perhaps you should make a slight, small effort in Michigan first.

[-] 2 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

Then you should comment on those issues, and those actions.

Truth is, you don't.

I've made many more comments on what is going on in the States.

You have a decided tendency to poo poo them.

Case in point?

The thread on bigotry and racism in Texas.

You were very dismissive of that one, acted like it was meaningless.

You've done the same for other posts on whats going on in the States.

PS I was involved in a recall of Snyder. I just didn't bring that here.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Why not? So you just blast everyone else, and dont post anything yourself? What a fuckin hypocrite.

And Im glad to hear you actually finally did something. Did you campaign for that, or simply go the polls?

You used that piece from Texas as your own little proof that our system is fine, in a blatant attempt at sabotage.

I told you it was good, but it doesnt reflect the bigger picture.

You agreed.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

That was evasive, and presumptive.............and assumptive.

You need to get outside your box.

It's hard to see things from in there.

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

Well said

[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

Morbid

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20593) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I'm a sick bastard - I don't deny it.

I wasn't always this ill.

[-] 0 points by DrJekyll (-143) 1 year ago

Personal acceptance does not equate to socially acceptable

[-] 3 points by ZenDog (20593) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I don't give a shit

  • I'm glad to hear Breitbart is dead.
[-] -2 points by DrJekyll (-143) 1 year ago

Too bad

[-] 3 points by ZenDog (20593) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

that is a matter of perspective -

It may have been rather expensive, but at least I'm awake.

Since we seem to kill an awful lot of Americans all by accident I find it impossible to grieve the loss of one classist asshole.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Duh!

I just want to say, Duh!

This is what OUR negligence has wrought.

You leave your home abandoned and a Brietbart will take a dump on your kitchen counter, and OD on your booze and prescriptions in the pool.

Get involved, participate, VOTE!

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

The film really is a masterpiece in hate. Lot of it going around.

[-] 1 points by bobjr508atyahoocom (22) from Nantucket, MA 1 year ago

Wait until 2016 Obama's America comes out on DVD and rent it. Far worse than occupy unmasked. Sure, Obama isn't perfect... but far better than what we got rid of, and way better than mitt Romney. (The repugnican Obama is going to crush under his heel in November.)

[-] 1 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

FLAKESnews and it's many wonderful, spinoffs and spin meisters.

I hope no one here wonders why I rail against them so constantly.

I can't think of a single reason not to.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I'm with you. They are evil right wing PR machine disguised as a news org.

Should be illegal. We should break up all large corp news orgs.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

If it's fit to "print", they'll spin it till till isn't, and broadcast it anyway!!!!

There's no truth pure enough not to, and when the advertisers fall in line the others will follow!!

Welcome to the post Fairness Doctrine America.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

besides money in politics, probably the most damaging element to a healthy democracy is failure of honest news delivery..

MUST be made illegal! Break up the MSM, (& the banks)

[-] 1 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

It's the first failure, indeed.

It's failure is necessary to "get over", with the rest of if it.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

The independent internet citizens journalist news sources can be the end of MSM monopoly on misinforming the public.

More and more people are (and will continue) to gettheir news from the internet.

A glimmer of hope, and a hint of the way forward.

[-] 2 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

I don't know if you've noticed yet, but not everything you see and read on the net is true, or even real.

it's actually a hotbed of astroturf.

It's not a panacea for what ails our media.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Agreed. but it is young. And will evolve, & improve.

It's just a glimmer, a hint.

As always it's up to the people to demand thechange we need.

[-] -1 points by brudlo (-454) 1 year ago

the evil Left wing PR machine is huge,.............abcnbccbsmsnbccnn, ny times, la times, boston globe etc.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

All news conglomerates should be broken up.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

Except that it doesn't exist.

That simple fact always seems to escape some people.

[-] -2 points by brudlo (-454) 1 year ago

what doesnt exist?

[-] 1 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

Slow on the up take, eh?

Eternally coy?

You don't exist, as there is no truth in your various statements, and existence is truth.

[-] 0 points by brudlo (-454) 1 year ago

the msm is the propaganda machine of the current administration. it exists and continues to print and broadcast lies evryday in support of obama . the 4th estate is a 5th column.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

Then you should hide under the bed immediately.

You can't hide too soon!!

Tune to FLAKESnews for further instructions!!

If you can't do that, tune in Glenn Beck, and await the flotilla.

Whatever you do, don't move, don't talk to anyone and be sure to get plenty of fiber in your diet.

In your case, you can never have enough of that.

[-] -1 points by brudlo (-454) 1 year ago

you're dumber than biden ( if thats possible). i dont watch or listen to either fox or beck.

[+] -4 points by neutrino (-197) 1 year ago

Do you even know what slow on the uptake really means?

[-] 3 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

In this case, it means the hose that feeds his brain information is totally clogged with shit.

Such is often the case with FLAKESnews watchers and sympathizers.

It's FLAKESnews' motto!

Makin' flakes, flakier in every way.

[-] -2 points by neutrino (-197) 1 year ago

We all receive information in the same way, what differs is the way we process it.

[-] 2 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

Some just goes in flakier than others?

His filter is flaky?

Or was it flakier in the first place?

Flakier on the inside, or flakier on the outside?

Nah....None of that.

It's was just FLAKESnews.

Long term cessation would likely be of use.

That shit is just too flaky to filter properly.

[-] -2 points by neutrino (-197) 1 year ago

That shit is just too flaky to filter properly.

The flakiest stuff is the easiest to filter.

[-] 3 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

Too much of it clogs things up.

It's in the nature of it's flakiness.

You start thinking your immune to propaganda.

You start thinking you know all it's forms.

You're not.

You don't.

[-] -3 points by neutrino (-197) 1 year ago

Really flaky stuff is easy to spot and circumvent. The stuff that's tricky is the stuff that's not so flaky. The stuff that blends reality with a few false facts. As an example, Renneye is easy to spot. She's an Illuminati. A real flake. You're part of Partisan Powers which is a little harder to knock down. You're flaky in that you don't follow the idealism of OWS, but you're harder to knock over because you take the real position of moveon.org which is valuable in its own right even though it contradicts OWS thought in many ways.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (20418) 1 year ago

And you, Thrasymaque, you are the most flaky of all.

[+] -4 points by neutrino (-197) 1 year ago

To your eyes, but wash them from the turd of Partisan Powers and you will see that I speak the truth. Stop loving Obama and start loving OWS.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26717) 1 year ago

Not another FLAKESnewsian buncha' bullshit about moveon!!!

You've been bought off by the propaganda

You are a FLAKE!!

Assuming nothing but bullshit.

Here's something I don't have to assume.

You are a jerk..

[-] 1 points by jph (2652) 1 year ago

"I'm glad to hear Breitbart is dead." I second this sentiment! (I don't often agree with ZenPuppy but this guy was utter filth and gets no sympathy from me, NONE!)

Remindes me of this old elvis song,.

Elvis Costello; Tramp The Dirt Down

I saw a newspaper picture from the political campaign A woman was kissing a child, who was obviously in pain She spills with compassion, as that young childs Face in her hands she grips Can you imagine all that greed and avarice Coming down on that childs lips

Well I hope I don't die too soon I pray the lord my soul to save Oh I'll be a good boy, Im trying so hard to behave Because there's one thing I know, I'd like to live Long enough to savour That's when they finally put you in the ground Ill stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down

When england was the whore of the world Margeret was her madam And the future looked as bright and as clear as The black tarmacadam Well I hope that she sleeps well at night, isnt Haunted by every tiny detail Cos when she held that lovely face in her hands All she thought of was betrayal

And now the cynical ones say that it all ends the same in the long run Try telling that to the desperate father who just squeezed the life from his only son And how it's only voices in your head and dreams you never dreamt Try telling him the subtle difference between justice and contempt Try telling me she isn't angry with this pitiful discontent When they flaunt it in your face as you line up for punishment And then expect you to say thank you straighten up, look proud and pleased Because youve only got the symptoms, you haven't got the whole disease Just like a schoolboy, whose heads like a tin-can Filled up with dreams then poured down the drain Try telling that to the boys on both sides, being blown to bits or beaten and maimed Who takes all the glory and none of the shame

Well I hope you live long now, I pray the lord your soul to keep I think I'll be going before we fold our arms and start to weep I never thought for a moment that human life could be so cheap Cos when they finally put you in the ground They'll stand there laughing and tramp the dirt down

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Agreed

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

I hope these commentators realize that when societies break down, its going to make any violence or destruction from Occupy look like a walk in the park.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Sorry Andrew, asking people what their views of capitalism in a fascist system makes no sense. And yes, Andrew, our system IS bad and does need to be remade.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Watching this right now, saying that OWS needed the Radiohead hoax to get people there is total bullshit. Im sure there is much more bullshit to come.

[-] 0 points by yobstreet (-575) 1 year ago

It was hard not to like Breitbart.

These events are staged then? They did not occur?

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

I like the baseball opening.

[-] -2 points by brudlo (-454) 1 year ago

judging from the above article and the comments of the ows people, theres truth in this movie. when you're catching flak you know you're over the target.

[-] -2 points by oneandone (-67) 1 year ago

It's what you are...a fucking MOB. Nothing more. The truth hurts.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

You cant handle the truth. Your fear is telling on you.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

You're gonna see these films?

[-] -2 points by robodan (-45) 1 year ago

Everyone should watch this when it comes out and it should be good

[-] -1 points by brudlo (-454) 1 year ago

yes, everyone should watch it AND " 2016".

[-] -3 points by robodan (-45) 1 year ago

Obummer is a big part of ows

[-] -1 points by brudlo (-454) 1 year ago

i know, he supports it as do his owners who fund it.