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Forum Post: Congress got RICHER - While Americans grew POORER

Posted 2 years ago on Dec. 27, 2011, 5:45 p.m. EST by Crimzon (91) from Arizona City, AZ
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45793299/ns/politics-the_new_york_times/

Read this - while all our woes and problems are just mounting - look whos benefitting from our suffering!

Anybody still believe Occupy is not neccessary?

How much more will it take before Americans as a whole quit being Ignorant or Blind to the truth?

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[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20414) 2 years ago

We no longer have a representative democracy. Until we get money out of politics things will not get better because our "representatives" are not representing us, only corporations and the wealthy.

[-] 1 points by Puzzlin (2898) 2 years ago

This is the result of many decades of constant brainwashing now commonly called the narrative that the political pundits hammer into their adherents heads selling Americans on Trickle Down Economics which we NOW know clearly to be a LIE.

Trickle-down theory is often seen a major rhetorical variant of "what's good for business and the rich is good for the country." In this form it was ridiculed by Franklin Delano Roosevelt as "toryism". While many believe this is generally true, others argue that trickle-down economics simply helps the special interests of business and its owners. David Stockman said Supply-Side rhetoric was used during the Reagan Administration as a "trojan horse" for lowering taxes on the wealthiest individuals. One economist critical of this theory, John Kenneth Galbraith, has summarized trickle-down theory as "horse and sparrow" economics: "if you feed enough oats to the horse, some will pass through to feed the sparrows." Before he became Vice-President under Reagan, George H.W. Bush had referred to this theory as "voodoo economics."

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Trickle-down_effect



This is the movement of the 99%, we are the ones who have been screwed and the evidence of this just continues to mount. The income inequality is abhorrent and it is historically at a point where we the people will demand it to end. The greed must end!!!

http://occupywallst.org/forum/if-the-rich-are-jobs-creators-where-are-the-jobs/



[-] 1 points by LSN45 (535) 2 years ago

Well said!

Here's my 2 cents:

There are a lot of improvements that need to be made. The list of reforms Americans want to see is long and varied depending on who you talk to. That said, I believe there is ONE reform that would provide the American people the best chances of seeing other meaningful reforms actually happen - that is REAL, loop-hope free CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM! I have seen others on this site calling this the "fulcrum" or pivotal issue. Right now the current legalized bribery, pay-to-play system of campaign donations and paid lobbyists has disenfranchised the American voter. Until this is fixed, any other reform the politicians may try to placate us with (be it a change to healthcare, clamping down predatory school loans, new financial regulations, etc.) will be about as effective as a farmer putting a new roof on his CHICKEN COOP, but still letting the FOX guard it.

We need to go back to the original political currency. Instead of the current system of who can collect the most money from corporations and special interests it should be who has the BEST IDEAS to EFFECTIVELY RUN THE COUNTRY (we don't need "Wealth Redistribution," what we need is "Political Influence Redistribution")!

For the sake of our children and future generations of Americans, we need to take back our democracy from the rich and powerful who are using their vast sums of money to "speak" as if they represent millions of Americans. This "Corporate Personhood" that has crept into our laws is allowing them to manipulating our policies in their favor at the expense of the average American (the recent "Citizens United" Supreme Court ruling is a miscarriage of justice and must be reversed. The $50 or $100 a normal American may give to a political campaign becomes meaningless when corporations or other special interests are handing our millions to buy political access to the decision making process.

For decades now the corporations and special interests have had our "representatives" bought and paid for (both on the right and the left). Concentrating our efforts on getting the money out of our politics is the best way we can create an environment in which further reforms can be realized. Until we end the current system of legalized bribery (campaign donations) and paid lobbying our politicians will continue to be the LAP DOGS of the corporations and special interests. What we need first and foremost is real, loop-hole free CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM!!!! If the corruption is not dealt with first, the chance of any other meaningful reforms becoming a reality is almost zero - the special interests will just use their money to buy votes and put forward bills that create loop-holes or otherwise twist the law in their favor. If we want our children to live in a country where there vote matters, we need to get the money out of our politics, otherwise they will increasingly become the 21st century version of the "landless peasant." Spread the word - End the LEGALIZED BRIBERY!!! CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM needs to be THE main goal of the protests!!!

[-] -1 points by Supplysider (53) from Richboro, PA 2 years ago

Campaign finance reform is a nice idea but will never work as there will always be a way around whatever limits you try to impose. Both parties are good and finding ways around the rules put in place in the past. The only way to end the corruption in DC is to take the money out, and by that I mean shrink the size of government. I would start by taking it back to recent levels of about 18% of GDP, then WW II levels of about 13% and eventually back down to around 5, the REAL long term average since the founding of this nation.

[-] 2 points by LSN45 (535) 2 years ago

I agree with you - Getting the money out of the equation completely would be the best in my opinion. I personally like the idea of publicly funded campaigns using a trust fund. Some smart people would have to figure out the details to ensure fairness, but I'm sure it could be achieved.

[-] 1 points by sinead (474) 2 years ago

And this surprises you?

Nancy Pelosi rents a $10,000 a night suite in Hawaii for her Christmas vacation..... google it.

[-] 1 points by Crimzon (91) from Arizona City, AZ 2 years ago

No its not surprising... Its just more mind boggling that people... stand for it...

Literally just bend over and get raped by government...

When did this all just become "OK" and why is it still "OK"?

[-] 1 points by sinead (474) 2 years ago

In this country where the percentage of registered voters that actually vote in any election has been falling since the 60s what do you expect? When not even half of the people in this country that are eligible to vote even bother to, that should tell you that the apathy in this country is at epidemic proportions.

We live in a society that reveres wealth and celebrity. When more people know who the Kardashians are then know who is the Speaker of the House or who is our Attorney General can you really expect that they even know what our government does?

[-] 0 points by sayNO2demm (1) 2 years ago

Democrats are smart. They win elections with illegal immigrants and sprinkle down some xtra welfare money down to you poor citizens so you guys will vote for them in order to get control over who they give government contracts and loans to and they drain the economy.

Hell... I will sprinkle down some extra welfare money down to you peasants if you elect me as president and have total control over the wealth and power in this country.

[-] 0 points by GirIFriday (19) 2 years ago

That is what they are supposed to do, stupid ass! Go help out in DC. Learn bathroom stall foot tapping "morse code" and you can get your pie sliced too!

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21771) 2 years ago

Information

Joined Dec. 27, 2011

[-] 0 points by GirIFriday (19) 2 years ago

Stop it, this is something I would say. Stalker. Besides, I would never reply to such a poignant post with such crazy and irrelevant rantings.

[-] 1 points by Crimzon (91) from Arizona City, AZ 2 years ago

Oh my bad - didn't realize congress / governement was meant to do that.

After all - when a country is in an economic crisis / unemployment rate is at all time highs etc...

That particular countries government officials ends up raking in high end profits...

I suppose logically it does "ADD UP"... yep that makes sense in fact you've solved all our issues miss Friday!!!

I must've added 2+2 some how and got 5 my mistake...

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21771) 2 years ago

Look, I am beyond a bitch. But the person that you are replying to is a troll and joined: Dec. 27, 2011

Click on my name in this post, it will have a join date of October 31.

[-] 0 points by GirIFriday (19) 2 years ago

Yeah, this is the gig. I'm headed to DC and hoping some of them are lezbo or like women.