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Forum Post: Central Park?

Posted 6 years ago on Oct. 13, 2011, 2:58 p.m. EST by andrewpatrick46 (91) from Atlanta, GA
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You guys have finally set up a confrontational situation in which we can finally expose the US gov't for what they really are: corrupt and oppressional. BUT you guys are leaving the door open by refusing to leave private property... You guys are kind of picking a fight with the private owners of the park...as much as I absolutely love what you're doing, I am a big time individual rights person and if someone (other than the government who are not individuals but rather they belong to us) doesn't want you on their property I they have the right to be protected.

It would be corrupt of our government to favor you guys and not protect the people who own the park. It would be like you complaining to the police about kids in your front yard who are constantly destroying your flowerbed and them not doing anything.

Now, if on the other hand you are being falsely accused by the park owners (i.e. the flowerbed person) and the police punish you that would also be corrupt on the part of the police...while the trash and just about everything they are saying is probably untrue, the wear and tear probably is true...I can't imagine the grass being able to stay alive when it is completely covered by a tent...

If the US gov't is smart they will tell the arresting officers to be as gentle as they have ever been, NO MATTER WHAT. They are probably going to calmly arrest all of you tomorrow. This will paint you people in a bad light for not leaving when asked.

HOWEVER, there is a very good chance that the Pigs are gonna take to their stupid ways and be violent when arresting you which will paint THEM as the bad guys.

If you stay this will be a high stakes gamble, with winner take a lot, not all though. You guys have the upper hand obviously though. There is a very good chance that the police will go in there as violent as EVER and then the movement will blow up all over the country. We will throw these fucking politicians out on their ass, which is what I hope this movement comes to. Our government is too far gone to be fixed, they need out. the only acceptable part of our Gov't is the Supreme Court, simply put they are AWESOME. But if for some reason the police find a way to not be their usual violent selves, it will be a big blow.

I'm just asking, why not Central Park? if the gov't tied to force you to leave they would have no argument since CP is publicly owned. You guys would force their hand by moving to CP. Not only that but CP can fit more people and is a much more favorable atmosphere for a Woodstock-like festival later; lots of green space. Just set-up your tents in CP and walk/subway to Zuccoti during the day. there are no laws against protesting and I do not believe any of Zuccotti's new rules entail a ban on protesting, just a ban on tents and stuff.

I'm just worried. Hindsight is perfect, so if this refusal succeeds in getting the cops to beat you with no discretion then it will be a great move. If, however, the cops are able to somehow miraculously restrain themselves...it may not turn out good. it may not be bad but it won't be good.

BE SMART don't give doubters, undecideds, or gullible government sheep a way to side with the government. If you play your cards right and avoid insinuating people who don't already hate you (i.e. far right conservatives), you can turn the whole country against the government.

best of luck from Georgia Tech.



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[-] 1 points by smarzie (62) from Portsmouth, OH 6 years ago

Battery Park sounds like a good idea if it's city owned....but something makes me not liking the idea of giving in and moving out.

[-] 1 points by odiug (93) 6 years ago

It is a trade of ... imagine the luxury of a tent :D

Public toilets, fresh water supply ... lets be for real ... Winter is approaching fast and we have to get prepared!

[-] 1 points by JackPulliam3rd (205) 6 years ago

Greeley Square Park would be interesting

[-] 1 points by odiug (93) 6 years ago

to cramped ... no room for tents and alike! and too far away from the financial district! Washington Square Park would be good too ... but Battery Park is close, has space and proper facilities like toilets! On top of it, it is owned by the City!

[-] 1 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 6 years ago

hehehe too simple

from http://occupywallst.org/article/emergency-call-action-prevent-forcible-closure-occ/

momshieb (Why are so many haters spending so much time here? Seriously, can't you go find one single useful thing to do with your time?) It is going to get violent if you resist. There is no way that it won't. Want to drive the city crazy? Peacefully and calmly walk out, take everything, clean up after yourselves. Return later and take turns sitting in folding chairs, wrapped in coats and scarves, talking and drinking coffee. Go home and sleep in shifts, but KEEP a group awake and talking around the clock. There will be no violence and you will get a lot of support. Stay true to the message of peaceful protest. I am totally serious, and will even volunteer to take a few shifts!

[-] 1 points by odiug (93) 6 years ago

Central Park is also privately owned! It is a foundation! Battery Park is much better! http://www.nycgovparks.org/parks/batterypark

[-] 1 points by andrewpatrick46 (91) from Atlanta, GA 6 years ago

Had no idea. so why not Battery Park?

[-] 1 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 6 years ago