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Forum Post: Calling Arizonans Who Do Not Have Photo ID to Vote

Posted 1 year ago on Aug. 21, 2012, 12:04 p.m. EST by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ
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If you need help or know someone who needs help obtaining a photo i.d., send me a personal message and I will help you get it.

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[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Good effort Phanya.

We will have to get as many people registered as possible in certain swing states because we cannot stop all republican efforts to suppress the dem vote.

Soldarity.

[-] 2 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 1 year ago

It isn't just registering. In AZ you can register without photo i.d. by using the National Registration Form (after three court hearings), but you still cannot VOTE without the photo i.d. Getting the i.d. requires going to the DMV for a drivers's or non-operator's license, which takes time and money that a lot of people do not have. So, it's both that need doing, really.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8696) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

mail-ins require no ID still I think, more GOP vote by mail....

[-] 1 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 1 year ago

I am looking into that. The website for arizona voting info indicates next election is 8.28, so I guess one would have to wait until the next day to get absentee ballot for November. This should not be so complicated!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8696) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

I know we vote in Glendale, mayor for one

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Aah I see. It is an insidious effort by repubs. Good luck. There will be many people left out of this election.

I hope the repubs do not succeed at this new effort at cheating. They cannot win without cheating.

[-] 1 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 1 year ago

That alone speaks volumes. They do not care what happens to the country or most of its people because they think they are super strategists who gained enough control to win with only republicans voting. Let's hope they are blatant enough that all democrats who can vote do vote. There is a gigantic difference between the parties, and I personally feel it will be much easier to effect real change at the grass roots level only if Republicans do not win. I'm retired, and will not be personally affected too much either way, but anyone under 50 will suffer the consequences for a very long time.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I think you got it just right. Grass roots change will bestifled by republican wins.

There is more hope if dems are elected and their feet held to the fire by OWS type movements.

Electing progressives, voting out vote supressing republicans and protests.

"It's the only way to be sure"!

[-] 1 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 1 year ago

If each voting progressive sees to it that just one other person votes who otherwise would not or could not, we will double our power. Imagine if we each get two people, and then they get two people, etc. That is our power, and it does not require a lot of money.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Excellent strategy and most valuable, most important in swing states especially. Arizona looks pretty red now but I think if your strategy is followed there the dems could win.

Luck

[-] -1 points by Stormcrow1 (-25) 1 year ago

Why would you vote for an adminstration who has had such a devistating affect on the economy that the age group from 18 to 28 are at 26% unemployment.

Do you have a job and are you better off today then you were 3.5 years ago. Readers want to know.

From what I have been reading on this forum tht is not the case - just more of the same - unemployment going up along with government spending to exceede the 16 trillion dollar makr.

Justify that.

[-] 1 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 1 year ago

I have always recognized that conservatives believe that President Obama is incredibly smart and capable, or they would never expect him to be able to solve a massive problem created by reckless governance over at least 7 years, and do it in three years, without a hint of help from those who allowed the collapse in the first place. He is very smart and capable, yes, but, c'mon guys, he's not a god.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

The economy is struggling because your republicans crashed it (along with their 1% plutocrat puppet masters) and created the worst recission in 70 years.

We were losing 750K jobs per month under your boy Bush! Now we are added hundreds of thousands every month. We've added almost 4 million in almost 3 years. the recovery would be much stronger of not for your republican obstruction.

So if we can get Pres Obamas recovery plan passed we will do just fine. If we let the right wing wacko conservative 1% plutocrat puppets get in and implement more of the "tinkle down" economics we will crash the economy again.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

the economy is struggling due to an outdated work ethic

and the efficiency of machines own as private capitol

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Ok. And the 1% plutocrats have rigged the system to suck up all the wealth and keep the 99% as wage slaves, and indebted servants.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

right

through interest and fractional loaning

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Wow. that's kinda beyond my paygrade but I believe you.

[-] 0 points by Stormcrow1 (-25) 1 year ago

You didn't answer the question - there is 26% unemployment with the age group of 18 to 25 - I guess that's ok with you.

Lets not forget that the president has "executive priviledge" and can change any law he wants. So, I don't see it as a republican problem I see it as a presidential problem.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

That don't make sense. The unemployment problem was created by the great recession the Bush & his 1% cronies created.

Executive priviledge does not allow the Pres to do what he wants. And the Repubs in congress has slowed the recovery by obstructing every attempt to create jobs.

[-] 0 points by Stormcrow1 (-25) 1 year ago

Oh really I don't ever recall the 18 to 28 age group having 26% unemployment during the Bush reign.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Sure they did This unemployment crises began at the end of 2007 and got continually worse until June 2009 when Pres Obama stimulus kicked in (watered down by repubs) so the high unemployment hit a peek around that time and has gotten better slowly, slightly ever since. Would have gotten better faster but repubs have obstructed all efforts to create jobs

[-] 0 points by Stormcrow1 (-25) 1 year ago

So, spending 5 trillion solved the problem didn't it? Now we have banks sitting on billions of dollars and no one can get a loan. Wonder why?

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

'cause banks are the 1% criminals that crashed the economy and continue to drag their feet because they don't want an economic recovery during a dem presidency? especially after the dems passed fin reform (that repubs watered down forthe banks)

And what cost 5 trillion dollars?

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Do you know anything about these important issues?

Vote out anti tinkle down republicans

[-] 0 points by Stormcrow1 (-25) 1 year ago

The important issues as I see it is the following:

Jobs - where are the jobs that were promised

Balanced budget - where is the balanced budget that was promised

Lower unemployment - where is the 6% that was promised

As I stated in a similar post I will be willing to bet anyone on this site $100.00 that if Obama is re-elected, the debt will clime to over 17 trillion in two years.

Is that the way to improve the economy - I don't think so. Do I have any takers?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34988) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

It is not all about the Obama. It is about a government that has a large quantity of members rebelling against the people - that are supporting/promoting profits over people - these rebels are corpoRATist's and they are hiding behind the repub banner and the dem banner - and they have all got to be removed from office.

[-] 1 points by Stormcrow1 (-25) 1 year ago

I don't disagree with you - it is a government problem so lets look forward and be concerned about what needs to happen instead of being concerned about what already has happened.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34988) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

The election has not happened. CorpoRATist's need to be kept out of office - petition campaigns like Move to Amend need to be supported. The people need to be educated and brought on board - this will happen in the streets on the internet and in the voting booth.

[-] 1 points by repubsRtheprob (1209) 1 year ago

The economy was crashed by the republicans! The recovery has been weak because of the republican obstruction. The debt will continue to rise until the republicans learn to play nice and compromise.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

All these items will be resolved when republicans start behaving like adults and working to implement the progressive solutions that we need.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (1321) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 year ago

The card mailed to me and every registered voter in Pima County, Arizona includes on the back info about ID options. I hope this is helpful to Phana and those in need of acceptable ID.

- Every eligible registered voter is required -to show proof of identity at the polling place before receiving a ballot. The voter shall announce his/her name and place of residence to the election official and present one form of identification from LIST #1 that bears the name, address, and photograph of the voter OR two different forms of identification from LIST #2 that bear the name and address of the voter. (ARS 16-579A)

A voter who does not provide one form of identification from LIST #1 OR two different forms of identification from LIST #2 shall not be issued a regular ballot, but shall receive a conditional provisional ballot and will have five (5) business days after a Federal General Election and three (3) business days after any other Election to provide sufficient ID to the County Recorder in order for their conditional provisional ballot to count. (ARS 16-579A) For a voter to receive a regular ballot, the address on the presented identification must match the address on the voter registration file. Exception – See "The Law" below.

List #1 – Sufficient Photo ID (including name and address): • Valid Arizona driver license or non-operating identification • Tribal enrollment card or other form of tribal identification • Valid U.S. federal, state or local government issued identification

List #2 – Sufficient ID without photo bearing the name and address (two required): • Utility bill of the voter that is dated within 90 days of the date of election. A utility bill may be for electric, gas, water, solid waste, sewer, telephone, cellular phone or cable television. • Bank or Credit Union statement that is dated within 90 days of the date of the election • Valid Arizona Vehicle Registration • Indian Census Card • Property tax statement of the voter’s residence • Tribal enrollment card or other form of tribal identification • Vehicle Insurance Card • Valid U.S. federal, state, or local government issued identification • Voter Registration Card / Recorder’s Certificate • Any "Official Election Material" mailing bearing your name and address THE LAW - ALLOWS FOR THE FOLLOWING THREE EXCEPTIONS • Valid Arizona driver license or non-operating identification license where address does not match signature roster/precinct register accompanied by a non photo identification from

List #2 in which the address does reasonably match the precinct register. • U.S. Passport accompanied by non-photo identification from List #2 in which the address does reasonably match the precinct register. • U.S. Military identification without address or address does not match accompanied by non-photo identification from List #2 in which the address does reasonably match the precinct register. Identification is "valid" unless it can be determined on its face that it has expired.

http://www.pima.gov/elections/ID%20polls.htm

[-] 2 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 1 year ago

Thank you! There is a good website with this kind of information for all states: www.thisismyvote.org sponsored by NAACP. Now all we have to do is get the people registered and to the polls.

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

We need people like you in every state.http://occupywallst.org/forum/if-you-are-planning-to-vote-this-november-the-rule/

[-] -2 points by funkytown (-374) 1 year ago

Granted: all of South America should vote in the upcoming election.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

This is not a joke!

[-] -2 points by funkytown (-374) 1 year ago

I don't think so, no.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

vote out vote suppressing republicans

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

huh?