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Forum Post: Bernie, The System and How to Manage Populations in Elections

Posted 4 years ago on Jan. 7, 2016, 7:02 a.m. EST by turbocharger (1756)
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He's powerless when working from within the Dem structure, and he knows it. He's basically doing the Ron Paul routine, parading around with the establishment in hopes of raising some awareness, and rallying the base.

HoPo has The Hag ahead by 15% in Iowa, as do most. They have Bernie ahead by a few points in NH, as do most.

Hill-Rod will crush him in the next states.

Besides, the primaries are a joke. Its all about super delegate endorsements, and currently Hillary is CRUSHING HIM at 331 to 8.

331 to 8. The game is already over.

Politicians are weak people, they want to go where the power is, which is clearly Hillary, being she's part of the Bush/Clinton scam.

Bernie is the best thing that has happened to the establishment this election. He's keeping everyone neatly in the system, easily manageable, no threat from outside forces.

By the time he gets kicked to the curb, it will be so late in the organizing circle, and supporters will be so discouraged, its basically bitch for a couple months and then pull the trigger for Hillary.

This is EXACTLY how it will go for you and Facts, and 90% of Bernie supporters.



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[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

Super delegates; so that is how the 1% makes sure they get their man, err Hag, in. I see Bernie's starting blocks have already been set 20% behind the Hag before the primary elections even start. So much for popular democratic vote. The fix is in. Corruption at its best.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 4 years ago

just like 2007 all over again....

[-] 0 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 4 years ago

post a photo of your ballot

[-] 0 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

I'd probably get arrested.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 4 years ago

last I checked its OK to publish ones vote

[-] 2 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

I'm not sure what you're asking me here, but if you are wondering who I voted for in the past couple Prez elections, it was Obama; who turned out to be an O' bummer in my mind by the way. If your wondering who I plan to vote for in the upcoming primary elections that is Bernie Sanders. Though I think the Party bosses are about to do him in, it is possible that if enough people vote for him in the primaries, he just may overwhelm the Superdelegates and win anyway to the frustrations of the party elite. Then there are the November elections, if Bernie caves in to the 1% like O' bummer did, or if he looses to a bigot, or if Jill Stein is the more noble choice, or something else, but let us take it one step at a time.

But, sure, party politics is just a game. As to real politics, I think Che Gueverra had the right idea.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 4 years ago

sign no war on the ballot

take a picture of it

and post it

[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

Yes that is the bottom line. "NO WAR".

[-] 0 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

Just occasionally The 99% are advocated for and represented by ... people / a person .. who genuinely gets their predicament! This is even rarer in The U$A but when it happens - what should The 99% do?!!

Yours is a powerful & informed post! However, I really have to hope that you are wrong, even IF you very probably are NOT!! So as an Occupier of Long Standing can you agree with that?!!! Ergo re.Wall Street:

I do think that it's incumbent on all OWS supporters .. to listen to Sanders. Voting of course is optional, just like agreeing but seeing for oneself what Bernie is saying is intellectually obligatory & also consider

I should also add btw, that if and when Bernie Sanders gets jacked by the DNC in April then irrespective of what he said he would or wouldn't do - he then HAS TO run as an Independent! The 99%'ll demand it!! Further consider that the option to all the above, may be what Chris Hedges & Cornel West discus here:

Finally, I'll end with the response bw made (+ small edits) to your same words, elsewhere on the forum:

''NO (we) Disagree! Bernie putting out into the ether - a basic war against billionaires and Wall Street is NOT the best thing to happen to the establishment!! (Sanders) continuing to articulate better and louder the platform of Occupy Wall Street is NOT better for the establishment!!! [My punctuation, obviously lol]

''He is gaining in Iowa & IF he wins Iowa and New Hampshire, where he is already winning .. he can win the whole thing. He is already ahead of where Obama was in 2008. What would you prefer? Some lefty on the outside at this point speaking the same truths but with no one listening? <{A HUGE Point, imo}

''And, get over it, we're not thinking about ourselves or whether we'll be considered right or wrong a year from now. (We) don't give a shit about being right or wrong. I care about making this country better and giving my children & Everyone Else's - A Future.'' I add: How can pro-99%ers oppose BS at this time?!

et ergo - respice, adspice, prospice; ad iudicium .. et per aspera ad astra ...

(& so look to the past, present, future; to logic & by hard work to the stars)