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Forum Post: Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren Want Obama to Join the ‘Fight for $15’ to Raise Minimum Wage

Posted 2 years ago on May 16, 2015, 8:32 p.m. EST by factsrfun (8782) from Phoenix, AZ
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"“Mr. President, the stroke of your pen can have transformative impact for millions of workers,” the letter states. “As low-wage fast food, retail and federal contract workers continue to strike in growing numbers to ‘Fight for $15 and a Union,’ we urge you to harness the power of the presidency to help these workers achieve the American Dream.”"

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/bernie_sanders_and_elizabeth_warren_want_obama_minimum_wage_20150516

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[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8782) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I would have thought there were more minimum wage supporters on this site.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33308) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

"“Mr. President, the stroke of your pen can have transformative impact for millions of workers,” the letter states. “As low-wage fast food, retail and federal contract workers continue to strike in growing numbers to ‘Fight for $15 and a Union,’ we urge you to harness the power of the presidency to help these workers achieve the American Dream.”"

But you know the "do nothing" promoting mutts around here are only gonna attack your post - Right?

I mean it's not like they would honestly support it or anything - the closest they will do to that - is say - people need to protest. And damn any suggestion that people should unite to own government.

I expect to see more Bernie bashing instead - perhaps some Elizabeth bashing as well.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8782) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

There is a real chance that Bernie can win, the fools who post here are of no importance.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33308) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6629) from Phoenix, AZ 2 minutes ago

There is a real chance that Bernie can win, the fools who post here are of no importance.

↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

Yes - They are fools - but they are trying to clothe themselves in the light of supporting the people - WHILE in fact they are working to further destroy the people.

So yes - they are fools (at best) - but very dangerous fools (at the very least).

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8782) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

They are political hacks that crave power.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33308) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I disagree - they are hacks that support the control of the top of the 1% and the handover of the USA to national and multinational corp(se)oRATions to do with as they please.

Though I could be mistaken in that they very well could be rethuglican hacks - but that wouldn't in anyway change the 1st part of this comment.

It makes them hacks that are supporting their own slavery.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8782) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

in any case it was people like them that supported the GOP wins of 2010 and 2014

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Like John McCain, you have GOP Pols in Arizona, right? Should I blame you for that? You should re-ass-ess your binary reductionism and ask .. why you are being protected from my replies to you here?

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8782) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Your fantasy is costing America too much, I say it is unacceptable to allow the GOP to win and to fail to do all one can to prevent them from winning is stupid as shit, I say it and stand prepared to defend that statement, but rarely does any offer an excuse for letting the GOP win, except once a fellow said it help stir support for his cause, he was willing to let America suffer greater harm if it help his party, a true hack through and through.

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Gun Loving; Colored Folk Hating; Taxation abhorring; Pro-''Business''; BIG Military liking, RWNJ's (Right Wing NutJobs) will Always vote for or have an equivalent to, The GOP. Three or four generations of Deep Right Wing Programming means that 10-20% of Americans ... will just NEVER vote anything other than Repugnantly! You're utterly naive denial of these matters, is really rather surprising .. if it is indeed, real!

Now that does leave the other 80-90% BUT Corporate Co-opted, Corrupted and Controlled Dem Party Pols are the most egregious problem as Vile Duplicitous Traitors to the 99% - and the thing is ... you know this too.Now go get your ''facts'' straight and STOP making them up for ''fun''and do sharpen up!

Also fyi .. http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/31288-how-bernie-sanders-can-kill-the-1-s-tpp-trade-deal Finally fyi http://fightfor15.org/ and do try to note that this and other such struggles ... are already being organising from the bottom up without looking for 'leadership from above' from compromised or corrupted Party Affiliated Pols and see http://occupywallst.org/forum/6-awesome-things-about-bernie-sanders-you-might-no/#comment-1061235 Your fixation on the Repugnants blinds you to the Democrap sell-out Pols!

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8782) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Your efforts to co-opt OWS to kick start your stupid ego driven Green Party has failed, you are left shouting at the wind like a madman.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33308) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

17th track "(We will endlessly argue meaningless "public self defeating" circular logic)"

We will endlessly argue meaningless "public self defeating" circular logic

We get that from the rethuglicans.

We will tell you that we have something good.

But when asked what that is - we can't formulate a straight answer.

So we will go back to arguing a meaningless self defeating circular logic.

Like:

Don't vote because that won't help - just protest instead because that will make everything better all by itself.

And if you don't accept that and refute it - we will gang-up on you and stinkle team you relentlessly - because that proves that we are right and you are wrong. It goes hand in hand with our meaningless "public self defeating" circular logic.

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[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Any criticism of Dem Party Pols and DNC Machine vexes you, doesn't it? Why is that Danny? Also... was my reply above to you? Do you think factsy can reply for himself? What makes you think that I'm (or anyone else here is) - interested or impressed or satisfied by your juvenile 'song and dance routine' here? Btw, my reply to you won't be wasted when I recommend this excellent article by Prof. Michael Hudson to you and all here: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article26131.htm - Read + Learn.

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[-] 0 points by turbocharger (1756) 2 years ago

"and even independent socialists who are forced to run as a dem in order to have a chance to compete - "

Lol riiiiiiiiight.

Didnt this so called moderator previously ban people for spamming? But when this so called thing from Michigan does it, its ok?

The hypocrisy is incredible.

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[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33308) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

8th track: (False flag) "We tear down the dems and even independent socialists who are forced to run as a dem in order to have a chance to compete - but you will not hear us go after any rethuglican no matter how actively evil they are - the furthest we will generally go - is to conflate the dems with the rethuglicans - does it make you wonder?"

Because you know we're all about them Dems,

'Bout them Dems, not Rethuglicans

we're all about them Dems, 'bout them Dems, not Rethuglicans

we're all about them Dems, 'bout them Dems, not Rethuglicans

we're all about them Dems, 'bout them Dems, not Rethuglicans

.......

Because you know we're all about them Dems,

'Bout them Dems, not Rethuglicans

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[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

I have told you before Dan that criticism of ''Rethuglicans'' is wasted here 'cause there are none here and so it's like - ''Shooting Fish In a Barrel''! Poster 'Techjunkie' was the only avowed 'R' here that I can recall but he was more a Pseudo-Free-Market Libertarian really. As such your petty prejudices and spamming display less 'honor' here on these boards then TJ. So, what does that say about your DNC gate-keeping ass, d'you think? D'you get that Dem Party = The 99% sell-outs here, as Reps do not claim to be that?!

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33308) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

8th track: (False flag) "We tear down the dems and even independent socialists who are forced to run as a dem in order to have a chance to compete - but you will not hear us go after any rethuglican no matter how actively evil they are - the furthest we will generally go - is to conflate the dems with the rethuglicans - does it make you wonder?"

Because you know we're all about them Dems,

'Bout them Dems, not Rethuglicans

we're all about them Dems, 'bout them Dems, not Rethuglicans

we're all about them Dems, 'bout them Dems, not Rethuglicans

we're all about them Dems, 'bout them Dems, not Rethuglicans

.......

Because you know we're all about them Dems,

'Bout them Dems, not Rethuglicans

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[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33308) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Absolutely - they got people to opt out instead of uniting to kick out the rethuglicans - so they made the 1% stronger - that is why they are Judas Goats - if nothing else.

[-] 0 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

i'm unsure that either party has actual popular support

only crushing bureaucratic momentum

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8782) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I'm sure the GOP is pure evil, I guess one can't know everything but I do know that.

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[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33308) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] -1 points by turbocharger (1756) 5 minutes ago

You can support whatever you like.

Dems and Reps have their own agenda, and your opinion is absolutely meaningless.

There is a reason the people have been playing catch up with the minimum wage for 70 years.

You keep needing to fill your sandbox higher and higher, but someone else keeps poking holes in the bottom of it.

But by all means dont worry about the holes, just keep shoveling. And shoveling and shoveling and shoveling.

If either party wanted to solve this issue it would be solved in a second. Its not a hard fix.

↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

And you have some sparkling fracked water rights that you could let me have cheap too?

Funny thing is - is the people could have solved this long ago if they would have held course on keeping progressives in office and electing more each election cycle.

Instead though - we have a significant portion of the population in the red states that keep electing their own worst enemies into office and diluting the good that could get done if only there were more progressives in office.

If either party wanted to solve this issue it would be solved in a second. Its not a hard fix.

And there ya go again - expecting the system to do good without the people owning the system.

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[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33308) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] -1 points by turbocharger (1756) 1 minute ago

Go to a Fight for 15 rally and see how many people understand what it is I am talking about.

Most wont. Those in charge are suppressing the root. Even Bernie and EW won't touch that, as they know their job is toast if they do.

That issue- and really most issues- is not a Dem vs Rep issue, as the roots are not addressed by either and the minute it was solved it would be one less issue for them to gain authority through.

You need to understand how power structures have functioned over the course of humanity, and take all this propaganda bullshit you have been fed in your very short time on this planet, and toss it.

You are twice my age but none the wise my friend. You could learn a few things if you would just open up your mind to much of the stuff from occupy.

↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

17th track: "(We will endlessly argue meaningless circular logic)"

We will endlessly argue meaningless circular logic

We get that from the rethuglicans.

We will tell you that we have something good.

But when asked what that is - we can't formulate a straight answer.

So we will go back to arguing a meaningless circular logic.

Like:

Don't vote because that won't help - just protest instead because that will make everything better all by itself.

And if you don't accept that and refute it - we will gang-up on you and stinkle team you relentlessly - because that proves that we are right and you are wrong. It goes hand in hand with our meaningless circular logic.

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