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Listen up, lil' buckaroo...........you and I both know it isn't about getting rid of all the guns. You just want to act like a crybaby douche bag.
Fine.
I'll just go ahead and treat you like it.
First person shot is usually the gate guard. . . .
The western world is laughing at this knee-jerk reaction.
Does an armoured truck with three pistol-toting men stop bank heists? Nope.
You're living in dreamland to think one or two holstered men can protect a school.
It's the total mindset that needs attention.
Well maybe you haven't realized that the police are only there when students and parents are coming into the building or dropping off their children.
Once that task is accomplished they leave - I have yet to see a police officer outside a school once the classes were in session - unless of course something happened in the school where authorities were called in to investigage.
School Resource Officers are there from beginning to end. They usually aren't present at elementary schools.
Never said they were - but it's a crying shame when we have to think about going in this direction to protect our children.
Solve the violence and killing in our society. Don't allow people on the streets who have violent tendencies or are on meds to deal with their violence.
But who is to say who these people are - we have to be politically correct about this so instead lets take away rights of law abiding citizens.
Shouldn't we do something to keep guns from these people.?
Yes and I have laid it out in other posts.
First - do not allow parents who have children to own guns Second - when a child becomes the age where he/she is allowed to own a firearm give them a psych test. Third - when a person becomes the age of 28 give them another psych test Fourth - anyone on medication should be given a psych test every year until it is proven they no longer need medication - then psych test every 5 years thereafter.
These are reasonable. What about criminals who do not fail the psych test?
Well like a lot of things - nothing is perfect.
So we should do nothing about criminals access to guns?
Well we already have background checks in place when it comes to purchasing a firearm through a dealer.
I don't know any criminals so I can't do a thing about that neither can you. I do know a lot of fellow citizens who own firearms though.
40% of all gun sales are without background checks. the secondary market, private sales, even on-line.
That is where we must make a difference.
universal background checks. close the loopholes, keep guns out of criminals hands.
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Maybe so, I think we need to jail the seller as a message/deterrent. My point is we CAN minimize the number of guns that get to criminals.
Criminals will steal guns. Rob houses and steal guns. Rob gunshops and steal guns. Rob other criminals and steal guns. What can be done?
80% of criminals in jail said they bought their guns without a background check.
You don't think we can do something about that? You don't support universal background checks/closing sales loopholes?
Those stats are not hard to believe. What is hard to believe is that the other 20% committed crimes with "legitimate" guns.
Of course I support background checks and I am sure that a more rigorous series of checks and balances do apply to gun sales. I simply wanted to point out that guns are very available to those intent upon using them for nefarious purposes. Why would someone commit a crime that could be traced to them? Either way I meant not to intrude, I saw the post and could not restrain myself from opening my piehole.
I suppose the other 20% could have been stolen. Although some could have been legitimate as well.
Well every gun should be traceable back to all their owners. Honest gun owners will report a stolen gun immediately. (many go unreported! imagine that?)
Irresponsible gun owners should start doing jail time. Criminals get their guns from legitimate gun owners.
We CAN make a difference.
The 80% without a background check would seem to me to imply stolen guns need no background check. Leaving 20% as "other". Who knows?
Every gun should positively be traceable to not only the owner but the seller as well. I cannot imagine someone losing a gun and not reporting it. Those people should be required to pass a test in order to own a sharp knife. (Good god.)
If irresponsible gun owners were held to task for their irresponsibility than they we become a dying breed. As they should. Civil accountability for what the gun does afterward may be possible.
Of course we can make a difference. Are we not doing that now?
I don't trust the govt to do anything but serve the 1% oligarchs. Which is why we are fighting to take it back to serve the 99%.
Sounds like you have resigned yourself to a dystopian world.
I continue to fight for positive change. Throw off the apathy you mention cause we need all the bodies we can get.
We can't surrender to the 'arm everyone' crowd.
I have hardly resigned myself to an Orwellian world.
Positive change is possible and required of us all.
I fear the arm everyone crowd much less than I fear the trust the government crowd.
i believe rge 80% were bought 'legally' in the secondary, private market. No need for criminals to steal them.
Some unscrulpulous gun nut buys a whole lot of handguns down in w va and sells 'em here in NYC for huge profit.
i assume the other 20% are stolen.
So that would indicate to me we can make a real difference with tracking devices, background checks, and real jail time for those unscrupulous sellers.
I fear it may be too late to alter the course of gun control. Apathy and complacency have become ideals that will be represented by stormtroopers that will permeate schools. The next generation will be so fucked up they will be beyond the reach of reason.
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." B Franklin
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Well anything that can minimize the number ofguns that criminals get should be tried.
Yeah, anything but reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban, close the loopholes etc. Anything but that. Noooooooooooooooooooo.
You would have to pay tax money to solve that. Your "private sector" would throw a shit fit. You would have to establish a criteria. It has nothing to do with political correct. But, I really dig your desire to do absolutely nothing with feeling.
Alright I can see where we can close the loopholes - ban parents from owning assault weapons. Lets start there - and lets give a psychological exam to those between the ages of 18 - 28 who want to purchase fireamrms.
That would be a start and it would take guns out of the hands of children - and young adults who did have guns would be proven sane.
A psych evaluation costs a pretty penny. I say that we have you take one first and then get back to us. We may have to take your keyboard away from you.
Hell the government squanders billions upon billions of dollars every year -
And I did take one several years ago when I was applying for a job at a nuclear plant and also for another employee. There were around 350 questions - not that hard to handle.
I did get the job at both places BTW
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There's an element in town that objects. Objects ? objects to what? they say he isn't fit to be buried there.. what? In Boot Hill? Why there's nothing up there but murderous cutthroats and derelict old barflies and if they ever felt exclusive brother they're past it now
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I don't like it, no sir. I've always treated every man the same: just as another, future customer. Well in that case, get that hearse rolling. I can't, my driver's quit! He's prejudiced too, huh? Well, when it comes to a chance of getting his head blown off, he's downright bigoted.
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I doubt it. The traffic cops that I see are not the ones in the schools. Although, it could be possible, I suppose.
What you have at schools is determined locally and could differ county to county. The number of SROs depends on the number of students and schools. Some school's arrangements have so many officers and so many "security". Or all "security" or only officers and they may be off duty and working it as a second job or arrangements have been made for them to work at the school. These are all local decisions.
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I don't buy this.
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but who made us the way we are, huh? men with guns. men like Calvera, and men like you... and now woman- me.i'm sorry, friend, but there'll be no funeral oh the grave is dug and the defunct there is as ready as the embalmers ought to make him but there'll be no funeral. What's the matter Didn't I pay enough ? it's not a question of money For twenty dollars I'd plant anybody with a hoop and a holler but the funeral is off. now how do you like that I want him buried you want him buried and if he could sit up and talk he'd second the motion Now that's as unanimous as you can get....
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Morning. I'm a friend of Harry Luck's. He tells me you're broke. [chopping wood] Nah. I'm doing this because I'm an eccentric millionaire.
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Chico: Villages like this they make up a song about every big thing that happens. Sing them for years.
Chris Adams: You think it's worth it?
Chico: Don't you?
Chris Adams: It's only a matter of knowing how to shoot a gun. Nothing big about that.
Chico: Hey. How can you talk like this? Your gun has got you everything you have. Isn't that true? Hmm? Well, isn't that true?
Vin: Yeah, sure. Everything. After awhile you can call bartenders and faro dealers by their first name - maybe two hundred of 'em! Rented rooms you live in - five hundred! Meals you eat in hash houses - a thousand! Home - none! Wife - none! Kids... none! Prospects - zero. Suppose I left anything out?
Chris Adams: Yeah. Places you're tied down to - none. People with a hold on you - none. Men you step aside for - none.
Lee: Insults swallowed - none. Enemies - none.
Chris Adams: No enemies?
Lee: Alive.
Chico: Well. This is the kind of arithmetic I like.
Chris Adams: Yeah. So did I at your age.
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Calvera: You'll do much better on the other side of the border. There you can steal cattle, hold up trains... all you have to face is sheriff, marshall. Once I rob a bank in Texas; your government get after me with a whole army... whole army! One little bank. Is clear the meaning: in Texas, only Texans can rob banks. Ha ha.
[they look at him in silence]
Calvera: Adios!
[-] 1 points by iamsoandso (107) 0 minutes ago and you missed how we tally it up a few post back about which side of the border
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