Forum Post: Alex Jones vs Piers Morgan 2nd Amendment Debate on CNN 1/7/13 [HD]
Posted 11 years ago on Jan. 8, 2013, 6:22 a.m. EST by RevolutionOWS
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Alex Jones vs Piers Morgan 2nd Amendment Debate on CNN 1/7/13 [HD]
AJ pretty much owned him on statistics, but made a huge ass out of himself in the process. If AJ would have presented the information in a manner that didn't make him look like a sociopath, he may have enriched SOME minds that are open to learning.
Ya, very poor interview on all accounts. AJ goes nuts as usual, and Piers is his usual dopey self.
Time Warner isnt going to allow people to go deeper than the surface. And AJ has a hard time connecting deeper things to relevant topics in the mainstream.
Very messy.
Agreed.
He ventures of into 1776 land...
gun numbers:
11,000+ gun deaths in USA; 39 in England { corrected number }
62 American gun massacres in 30 years; number stopped by armed civilian 0
number of Australian massacres since new strict laws 0
doest this ever come to mind:
alex = rush + televangilist
http://nicedeb.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/article-1196941-05900df7000005dc-677_468x636.jpg
There is a lot of misinformation out there...where did you get the 35 deaths? Is that per captia?
PER 100,000:
10.2 USA
0.25 England
wikipedia
Thanks for the clarification.
Where does the 35 in your reply come into play?
Thanks for asking again. 39 is correct
Pierse Morgan quoted a government report from 2011 or 2012 as the total number of UK gun homicides in a year
SOURCE: table D19
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/crime-stats/crime-statistics/period-ending-march-2012/rft-annual-trend-and-demographic-tables-2011-12.xls
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-kingdom has some older data
I think his numbers were there purposely misguiding. Thanks for the reply!
which numbers are "misguiding" ? What do you find is the number of gun deaths in the US & GB & what is your source
I can find some sources for you if you'd like :)
Well first of all Piers was ran out of media in England because he was manipulating the facts. I find my sources from national stats., not a news corp.
please post link to your GB gun death statistics here is a link I found comprehensive
http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/crime-stats/crime-statistics/period-ending-march-2012/rft-annual-trend-and-demographic-tables-2011-12.xls
The above link is directly to police statistics - go to table D19 to see the 39 that Morgan was using
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-kingdom
alex proved himself incapable of even the basics of leadership in this interview. i used to like alex he helped bring 9-11 to the forefront and the crimes of the clinton and bush crime families as well as exposing bohemian groove. now he just sounds like a right wing deranged lunatic. i know he has always been conservative and all but he seemed to make sense before. now he just jumps to wild outlandish conclusions and lines of reasoning with no true logic involved and these libertards eat it up like candy it's fucking sad. dude could have really been a warrior for truth instead he is just a parody of himself.
Although, you have to admit, its nice to see people say fuck it and get as angry as we are, on air.
But this was more like insane ranting.
here was one of my favs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIcqb9hHQ3E
lol...great vid
So you support Alex Jones? "its nice to see people say fuck it and get as angry as we are, on air." Are YOU angry about gun control like him?
He was just a little insane ranty for you?
Please read this article which supports your theory!
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2013/01/the-turning-point-of-the-largest-brainwashing-experiment-in-american-history-2447530.html
and the gun posts continue.
I don't really care what Alex Jones or Piers Morgan have to say about anything.
Neither of them have established themselves as credible figures we should heed advice from.
Not trying to be rude, but the gun posts have been flooding the forum lately. Even though guns are in the same situation they were last year and the year before.
Do you have solutions? Where do you stand? I'd rather see a post about that.
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stop trolling me
Fuck off
But no denunciation of the right wing wacko Alex Jones?
Interesting
Dumb fucking question shows you did not read my comment
fuck off
Y'mean cause you said "Neither of them have established themselves as credible figures we should heed advice from."
I read it. It was weak and meaningless. It also hides Jones right wing wackiness by being SILENT about it.
You spend more time criticizing that thereare so many gun posts.
So that is what is more important to you.
You want the discussion to stop because you don't support gun restrictions?
I mean, shutting down discussion on the issue is what theright wing wants, so you share that with them.
Just sayin'
"Ventura Buries Morgan on Gun Control Debate in Sept 2012
Jessie Ventura has a debate with Piers Morgan on gun control. Remains rational, leaves Piers in the dust. Takes a little audience survey at the end and shows Piers how it’s done. No wonder they wanted to get disinfo Jones on there to remake Morgan’s image."
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/ventura-buries-morgan-on-gun-control-debate-in-sept-2012/
ATTENTION Gun Debaters…Please Read This Entire Article…‘The Riddle of the Gun’ By Sam Harris
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-riddle-of-the-gun
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2013/01/the-turning-point-of-the-largest-brainwashing-experiment-in-american-history-2447530.html
Brilliant tactic by piers....get a complete loon on stage to portray the other side of the debate as complete nutcases.
Why would anyone listen to either of these clowns?
Alex is Ron Paul's biggest fan and by proxy, a big fan of libe(R)tarianism..
or two dipshit assholes sht on each other's giant egos,. are you not entertained!
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Find a better spokesperson and it would have been presented better. Unfortunately, he needed some Prozac.
Please read this article which supports your theory!
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2013/01/the-turning-point-of-the-largest-brainwashing-experiment-in-american-history-2447530.html
REALLY?
Ok, I made it up to where the douchebag says, "We did it because of globalism." WTF?
no you didn't asshole.
One example about the gun control issue.... Take a look at Mexico, it has some of the toughest gun laws in the world. Even with all of these gun laws, the thugs in Mexico still purchase heavy machine guns from the black market. Needless to say, banning guns will only disarm law abiding citizens, not outlaws.
I AM SOLD!!
Bring on the FEMA Death Camps!!
Make Alex Jones the Poster Boy!!
Ban Guns Now, BECAUSE Alex Jones is against it!!
If anyone out there thinks what AJ was frothing at the mouth about was a viable argument for anything but our country's desperate need for improved mental health care, seek mental health care, NOW!!
OMFUCKINGG!!
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What is most disturbing is the number of Americans who believe him & rush & shawn & willard & faux noose
It is disturbing, but even still there ARE more sensible people in the country. They must be woken up and enlisted. We must continually ridicule the wackos without mercy.
I kept thinking one kick on that stool and he would be down and how easy to panic and accidentally stomp on his throat... just kidding.
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The moronic disrespect is what I was referring to.
I can't imagine anyone listening to, much less believing, his Hillbilly Taliban diatribe.
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Teabagistan was a website, but I can't find it no mo...
Insulting stan countries too?
Great. Why stop at Tampa when you can insult other countries too!!
What a piece of shit you are.
Try playing on the freeway, why discriminate?
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Did you find it?
Would you wingman Hc for me, he has his little hardon on me now.
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tamp(a neoc)on!
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Oh dear, that looks like "Tampon," the feminine sanitary devise, I'm quite sure, that ain't nice!
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Mercy please, no!
the truth about the left wingers always distrubs the far left when it gets out.
As per usual you don't make sense.
Jones is just a right-wing nutcase who went total batshit a long time ago. He made a fool out of himself again.
WRITE CONGRESS:
http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/
http://www.senate.gov/reference/common/faq/How_to_contact_senators.htm
VP Joe Biden, Gun Panel, 1600 Pennsylvania Av, Washington DC 20006
Dear ............................:
[ Y.O.U.R...I.N.T.R.O...H.E.R.E ]
While some people may want to confiscate guns, here is a much more feasable approach. It will not solve all gun problems, but it will reduce the number of guns and will reduce the number of dangerous people who have access to guns - and isn't THAT our real goal?
Please consider advocating these four steps below to help America with our gun disasters:
My proposal - for a NATIONAL gun law for all guns & owners:
My four points are SIMPLY based on seeing a logical parallel between cars & guns.
1
all gun owners must be licensed & tested with all guns they own and pass a written test.
2
every year, you must prove that you have gun liability insurance &
be background checked and prove that your gun is properly locked when not used.
3
as the owner of a gun, you are legally responsible for what is done with it.
4
every gun must be registered and tested & a sample fired bullet stored by the police
peripherally-
Some real 2011 / 2012 gun statistics:
Americans own almost half of all civilian owned guns in the world.
Per 100,000: America: 88,880 guns owned / 2.97 homicides
Per 100,000: England…: 6,200 guns owned / 0.07 homicides
Per 100,000: Austrailia: 15,000 guns owned / 0.14 homicides
Per 100,000: Canada…: 30,800 guns owned / 0.51 homicides
Per 100,000: France…..: 31,000 guns owned / 0.06 homicides
Per 100,000: Japan……..: 1,000 guns owned / 0.08 homicides
Per 100,000: Israel……..: 7,300 guns owned / 0.90 homicides
Clearly the number of guns adds to the risk of homicides.
More complex is the effect of gun laws and restrictions.
When Australia had a massacre in 1996 when 35 people were killed, gun laws were substantially strengthened and a major buy-back was instituted.
There has not been an incident in Australia since then.
Of course, they did not have the benefit of the nra.
For 2011, the average Murder Rate of Death Penalty States was 4.7,
while the average Murder Rate of States without the Death Penalty was 3.1
For 2011, the murder rates were highest in red state regions:
Per 100,000: South 5.5 Midwest 4.5 West 4.2 Northeast 3.9
In 2011, there were 11,000+ gun homicides in America
In 2011, there were 35 gun deaths in England
The 1994 gun "ban" did not ban assault weapons. It banned the MANUFACTURE of assault weapons. That is why so many people are buying AR15s before "Obama bans guns"
Your post's are reading more like the Minister of Propaganda in N@zi Germany,Joseph Goebbels.
Alex is keeping the truth a secret
ancient aliens have genetically engineered
Kenyan Muslim bigfoots to be miniaturized to
sneak into your house and and
take away your guns
Alex is brilliant -
at not answering questions
is he too stupid or too ignorant or too smart
Maybe Piers will tap the guy's phone and get answers. Lord knows he has the experience and know how.
Stupid liberals like Piers Morgan cant argue with logic, because his his logic is flawed in a free society. #ANOTHERDUMBLIBERAL
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