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Forum Post: A Letter I sent off today - on proper use of position as well as resources.

Posted 9 months ago on Feb. 1, 2014, 4:51 p.m. EST by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN
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We ( the people the environment the world ) need true leadership to promote healthy change/growth.

So get together with all champions of the people/environment/world - champions like Bernie Sanders and new up and coming city council woman Kshama Sawant.

Provide concrete plans for the public to support/call for.

For instance - what is one of the most major problems in this country to date?

Unemployment?

What could that be related to?

A Disposable Society?

Replace instead of repair or upgrade what one has?

Now consider - CARS - why in the hell should they be so easily disposed rather than repaired/upgraded?

How many people can actually afford to buy a new car? Once - not often - just once.

With all of the improvements made in the engine efficiency and in transmission efficiency = reduced pollution - reduced need to refill ( more mileage cleaner operation ). Why should replacement of a whole vehicle be necessary?

Don't we need employment opportunities?

What if an individual could get a low interest loan to upgrade their vehicle?

What if an individual could get a loan that they could pay with gas mileage savings?

What would that look like in employment opportunities? Shops all across the USA hiring mechanics for upgrade work. Machine shops all across the USA hiring workers to manufacture the upgrade parts.

Why should all of that processed metal ( engines transmissions etc ) be sold as scrap to foreign countries rather than reprocessed here for reuse?

These are the kinds of things that should be forwarded - for healthy growth as well as for a continuing transition away from massive fossil fuel use as technology gets better and alternatives to fossil fuel become available.

I have a 2003 Chevrolet Malibu - It has a 4 speed auto-matic transmission. The 2014 Malibu has a 6 speed auto-matic transmission = improved performance ( less gas burned ). Why shouldn't I be able to buy that new transmission and have it installed? For 1 it was not made to fit my car - but it could be. My car is in excellent condition - why should I not be able to improve it's performance? I am living on disability - so I will never be able to afford a new efficient vehicle as they become available - but - if I could get a low ( purpose tied ) interest loan for a couple of grand - and if the parts were available for purchase - well then - I could someday afford to upgrade - not replace - UPGRADE. How many millions of people are in the same position?

Thimk about it. Hey?

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[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Planned Obsolescence

That is the greed factor in business - to replace completely ( throw away essentially ) - used to drive the disposable society business plan. It needs to be squashed.

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[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Therein lies the challenge of our times - changing thought/perspective - and the growing fossil fuel crises is one of the driving needs/impetus for our change/growth in perspective.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

There are U.S. mechanics who prey on women by deliberately CAUSING symptoms of cars acting up. There are auto-shop owners who do not stick to their promises and break contracts. The fact is that modern cars have become so reliable that auto-shops are put out of business if they depend on maintenance work. Once trust is gone, the work disappears. No fair deals turns into no deals.

Car makers maximize their profits if entire new cars are bought instead of just upgrading existing cars. The car dealers are often NOT responsible for taking the old car back unless they get to sell you a new car. They have no incentives to support modularized upgradings of cars.

The U.S. has become a Rip-Off Society so buying a new car and keeping it for a long time makes economic sense because the quality is less variable for a new car. No one really wants to be sold a disguised Sandy-flooded car, for example.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Sorry but Your argument as to why this should not be done? FAIL

[-] 3 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

Our whole idea about cars is all wrong but so much ego is put into cars that we have even exported it to China. It will take them a while to get the real meaning of traffic congestions and parking shortages, I guess.

You can perhaps use public transportation? And Zipcars? Bicycles? Walking? Segway? Scooter? Electric regenerative braking lightweight scooter? Taxis? Limousines? Ridesharing with friends and relatives? Live where you want to be without much commuting? Virtual presence? Have things delivered to your door through online ordering, Amazon, Peapod? Get parcels via UPS, Fed Ex, USPS? Have trusted agents act on your behalf through FAXing? Email, facebook, twitter? Use scanners? Mail Thumb drives, CDs, DVDs? Bank online, shop online?

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

Ya, China knows nothing about traffic jams. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/china-traffic-jam

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Ha ha nor pollution either . . .

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

Hey. Aren't you happy that they learn a lesson or two from us, eh? When will their rivers catch on fire? When will they have electricity rather than coal trucks deliver energy? How about efficiency upgrades and conservation?

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Currently - while they are still the worst polluters - they are also investing more than anyone else in new clean technology. Will they end their pollution sooner ( in time ) than the rest of the world?

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

They will likely beat the U.S. in becoming green because we are a gigantic octopus that is still trying the different kinds of knots using our tentacles. Imagine a scout troop with no leader who knows knots but the octopus cub scout is using its tentacles to learn.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

They will likely beat the U.S.

Pretty meaningless. Unless the whole world does do their utmost - starting NOW - it really won't mean a whole lot overall.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

Very true indeed. The U.S. cannot save China and China cannot save the U.S. Only both of them TOGETHER has any chance of saving the world and both are still in denial even though both already know.

I guess they are playing the game of chickens using the whole world as the fragile egg flying at the concrete wall. How pathetic and sad both chickens are!

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

Exactly.

[-] 2 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

Someone should solve the coupling problem for all of those coal trucks. If they are all going to the same place, they should become a train. Build a train track parallel to that artery. They probably save a lot of diesel fuel, too. Friction is largely independent of the contact surface area. That is why freight trains in the U.S. are usually ridiculously long - bless you if you are stopped from moving by a freight train.

Perhaps trucks should be built with the same coupling mechanisms as the railroad cars.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Sucks when one just can't cross their arms - blink - bob their head - and presto change-o - tis DONE. Hey?

[-] 2 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

That is actually a requirement for any action. See it first in your mind's eye and work out the kinks. Trust in the presto ease and become a Fool. Fools get started convinced how easy it is but that is their major advantage - having STARTED. If it does not work out, try something else knowing and understanding what has gone wrong.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

So - Basically - you went a long ways around to agree with my original post. You might more easily recognize the driving concept = Continuous process improvement.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

In my mind everything is discrete. Continuity is our minds' abstraction so yes, you can call that continuous process improvement.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Continuity is NOT an abstraction it IS an art. As is communication.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

The particle-wave duality was experimentally confirmed in lower Manhattan as well when matter waves were observed by forerunner of the Bell Telephone Laboratories.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Duality does not exclude continuity - it has it's own continuity.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

Yes, so I did not disallow your Continuous Process Improvement. The wave-function is a continuous quantity and it underlies everything.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

With such a description - it is then orderly and not at all chaotic.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

We broke away from the old continuous way of communication and went to the digital age in which our communication right now is made possible thanks to information theory, transistor, optical fibers, lasers, etc. mostly discovered and developed by Bell Telephone Laboratories after World War II whose home was in the west side of lower Manhattan.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Without continuity in the communication - whatever type of communication - then there is chaos/miscommunication.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

Here is where you missed the magic of digitization. It is this remarkable torrent of chaos and miscommunication sorted out properly that allows our communication right now.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Here is what you disregard - there must be rules/continuity for sorting and ordering/dissemination. Chaos must be filtered/translated or it remains chaos/unusable - so to be useable - it is only "seemingly" chaos - chaos to those who do not have the filter/aid.

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[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

????

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[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

WOW - really? You go about introducing/expressing these things pretty poorly.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

I wonder

What would happen if

Say the worlds leader in CVT ( constant variable transmission ) - were to market an upgrade to all makes and models - even if that was only to cars that they manufacture. To be going down the road at 70 mph and the engine only turning 500 rpm. Daymn - now apply that to all cars/trucks. With a proper range built into the transmission - there is no reason why any vehicle could not be at speed and only have the engine turning over at 500 rpm rather than 1000 or more rpm to maintain speed. It is a matter of engineering. Currently there is not a single car on the road that at speed turns less than 1500 rpm to maintain speed ( ummm perhaps 1200 ) - not at 30 mph not at 70 mph. Look at the gas savings there. Come up with an alternative to gasoline? Fine. Wouldn't that alternative also benefit from the upgraded CVT ? From dead-stop start-up torque to high speed ( or just at speed ) low engine rpms - what a major improvement.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

Electric drive is replacement for gasoline. We now have extremely powerful and lightweight magnets compared to decades ago so mobile applications of these magnets have become feasible.

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 months ago

saves energy by converting velocity in stored energy when slowing down

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

Yes.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Now we need to transition to those electric motors - that means improved batteries and the means to keep em charged - and then the whole process needs to continue to improve. Having a standard mating process - mating between engine ( whatever type ) and transmission ( whatever type ) will be a step in the right direction - along with the ability for less affluent individuals to upgrade as improvements become available.

[-] 2 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

We should do AWAY with batteries on the mobile part if possible. Why haul the coal with the trucks if electricity can travel lighter and faster?

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

One still needs massive growth in creation of electricity as well as storage and transfer. One huge step forward would be the development and implementation of a liquid metal battery into the power grid for smooth distribution of power as well as for stopping the loss of power generated.

BTW - until everywhere is on the grid (s) ? One would still need on-board power for trips off of the existing grid (s).

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

You are referring to the adaptation of the Hall process, I think. You can use your segway.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

You can use your segway.

Dumb - really - Dumb - get away from joking or go away.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

Okay, how about Zipway?

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Any "ANY" off grid transportation has got to be as capable as on-grid transportation - or it is just recreation - not fully functional.

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[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

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[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Could that picture function as what it was drawn to represent? Proof is in the pudding - go taste their pudding ( battery ).

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[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Physics are physics - the properties of electricity of an electric charge are known. Are you complaining that they are withholding proprietary information that is preventing you from duplicating their efforts to create your own functioning battery? Those BASTARDS!!!

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[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Really? The physics are different than what you have been taught? Or are you just wondering about the initiation of the batteries functioning process?

[-] 2 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

We can have passenger capsules with lightweight permanent magnets and use induction to drive them at high speeds through a well controlled traffic environment.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Fine - but - AGAIN - there needs to be a transition to get there. Many stages of growth and implementation.

[-] 2 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

How about a pneumatic tube with single passenger capsule, upgraded to a group of multiple linked capsules., then magnetic drive, electronic controlled coupling and decoupling?

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

You are adding in a complication - the creation of the tubes as well as the handling of the air - better off staying with an electronic grid and electrical delivery system. The simpler the system - the better the system.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

We need something to screen out interference from other traffic or electromagnetic waves. We are holding human lives in the system.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

The controlling power - intelligence - is in the vehicle as well as in the grid - it is communication as well as awareness - applied. The more constructs you add to any system - the more possibilities of failure you also add.

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 months ago

like railroad tracks

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Long Distance freight hauling ( trains ) would be a logical place to start.

[-] 0 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

China obviously did not know about queuing theory or channel capacities or the ones who knew were not in charge.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Wrong = "China obviously did not know about queuing theory or channel capacities or the ones who knew were not in charge."

That society has been dealing with a humongous population for centuries. They have been doing more with less than most everyone else in the world for far longer than most everyone else.

The real difference is that their government ( government to government ) has been more strict in holding to the past ( fighting change ) - at least until recent decades anyway.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

If China does not apply modern mathematics, it cannot run a modern country.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Have you missed the fact that they are making our advanced electronic components and are installing them in our advanced electronic devices are manufacturing our advanced electronics?

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

Did China research, conceive of the idea, develop the implementation itself or did it partner or share or steal it from others?

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

China is not known for invention - however - it is known for copying ( stealing ) and improving - Japan is more original/inventive but they also will copy and improve on the existing.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

I think the U.S. can easily lay claim to having invented much of the breakthrough technologies defining the modern world. China was very inventive but they went through a great slump and has recovered. That is why I still bet that China will become green faster than the U.S. but God help them, don't copy U.S. stupidities! Yes, we are a nation of Fools but that IS why we are inventive.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

That is why I still bet that China will become green faster than the U.S.

Getting back to what I have been saying - continuous process (s) improvement - they only need to take and utilize what has already been discovered while also improving upon it - hell they wouldn't really need to improve on much of what already is known - just implement - improvements can always be made.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

China and the U.S. lack the wills to pay the price to turn the world green. It is a matter of money in regard to the global commons. It has already become very late. This Titanic seems destined to sink but I have my wormhole ready easily with so much negative energy around.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

China is trying to play industrial domination - So - while they may be implementing green technology faster than the US of A they are also burning fossil fuel like there is no tomorrow ( funny that ) doing it.

And it is very true that the USA ( along with most of the modern world ) does not have the collective will to implement - truly fully implement the green technology that we are capable of implementing ( have available to implement ).

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

China dominating the no-tomorrow world befits their national mascot of the dragon swallowing the fireball. It is the Earth on fire! It figures.

[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

You suck just as much as you did when you thought you were a submarine.

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 months ago

the compilation observe the physical parameters

[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

Yawn.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

BTW - door to door delivery - just how many delivery vehicles are you looking to put into the system? I mean to serve the whole population - everyone - to serve everyone - not the majority - not to serve a minority - to serve everyone.

Like I said - you raise issues to be addressed - but you do not ( have not ) raise an argument against my original post.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

Amazon is fast closing in on making that coverage possible, of course for those with sufficient money because we still live in a money economy.

Your car needs electronic control most likely to go to the 6-speed transmission. That requires knowledge workers who are usually highly paid so their work must be amortized over many units of sale. That usually means a mass market but as long as people are well off enough to buy a new car or there is no great penalty for junking the old car, things are not going to change. Rahm Emmanuel was right about crises being too precious to lose as opportunities.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

The transmission has a control modual so does the engine - all that is required is mating the engine to the transmission and allowing the systems to communicate with eachother - that is done at the manufacturing of the elements - it is not done at point of installation.

Not everyone can afford to buy a new car - that is why the used car market exists - that is why there are always more inefficient vehicles on the road than there are state of the art vehicles ( multiples of inefficient vehicles to state of the art ).

[-] 1 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

Perhaps the knowledge required for the mechanical and electrical mating of the transmission to the engine is only available at the manufacturing site or they require heavy equipments or specialized tools. How about building the lightweight scooters that have coupling option to latch on to common carriers?

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

How about building the lightweight scooters that have coupling option to latch on to common carriers?

Scooters are not the answer - and - there are plenty of things that one can attach to a scooter to allow greater carrying capacity - why increase the size of common carriers to have them able to transport scooters ( that was your idea wasn't it? Was it? Get transported to a location in common with others to then use your more efficient scooter? ).

The idea should be to continuously improve all forms of transportation to be more efficient/clean - eventually to be completely clean in operation.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Your 1st argument was not one to reason against what I posted - Nope - It brought up issues that need to be addressed - same with your 2nd argument (?).

Mass transit has a place - and in the future may be all that is needed - but for now mass transit is woefully lacking. Use it for all of your needs - how much fun are you gonna have going to work and from work to see your Dr and return to work ( how much time lost ? ) - Go to work and on your return home stop for groceries or your other needed errands - how is that gonna work out for ya? Not everyone is gonna be able to live close to work and their Dr or Dentist or their shopping center or or or or or or or

[-] 2 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

We need to think differently and also look at how other societies and our own society in the old days to find better alternatives.

Commuting to and back from work was a product of the Industrial Age but the stupid structure remains with managers fighting turf battles and enforcing facetime. Doctors used to come to you not the other way around. Peapod can deliver groceries to your home. If you are out, you may want to start a neighborhood concierge service to buffer deliveries and sendoffs.

If the doctor is inconvenient to see, don't get sick by listening to your body and take good care of it. This is actually possible because I have done it after understanding that I AM a machine so I need to take good care of it and not listen to the gobbledygook about miraculous pills and treatments. Not getting sick was far more enjoyable than ANY treatments.

If you do not like living where you are, move to a better place after assessing the pros and cons. I like holding fast to my values and owning an omnivorous mind.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Yeah yeah yeah - you have much to say about what should be - but you do not present a transition process to get there. My post is about a transition process - a point of continual change leading to the best outcome of any process. You present a possible end - not a process of getting there.

[-] 2 points by grapes (3317) 9 months ago

Use the onion model for incremental development. Educate yourself first - feed your mind with knowledge and nourish your soul with wisdom. Take care of your own body and listen to it well. Take care of your relationships so you have a supportive network of family and friends. Change how you interact with our money economy one thing at a time. After a decade or so, things will have changed far more to your liking. Any great project takes time so your life's project merits your entire lifetime if need be. Keep your eyes wide open and mind alert because new opportunities pop up from time to time.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Read your response and apply it to self. My post is not in disagreement.

[-] -2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 months ago

before automobiles, people did live close to work

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Then came horses and oxen and other beasts of burden as well as equipment to attach to them - such as various types of carts/wagons/trollies - then as business grew ( most often expanding it's footprint prior to opening new shops ) - number of workers grew as well as housing needs - soon people were living further and further away from work.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

chirrrchirpchirrrrchirrrrchirpchirrr.....crickets - huh . . . chirrrchirpchirrrrchirrrr chirp chirrr

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

This is just one instance ( tied to a network of issues and industries ) of a way to properly approach a healthy transformation of our society/world.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

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[-] -2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 months ago




Don't we need employment opportunities?





No.

food, water, clothing and shelter is what people need





[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

You deleted all of your comments - except this one - is it next?

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Point being? Aren't three of your examples increasingly automated?

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[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

The idea is - everyone needs the ability to be able to provide for themselves - at this point in time that means work/employment for everyone - as we have not gotten to the point where our prior works provide for us all and are self sustaining/repairing/improving.

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[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (24945) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

people need food, water, clothing and shelter

Stating the obvious - without proposing solutions?