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Forum Post: 99%...? More like 33%!!!

Posted 1 year ago on Sept. 3, 2012, 5:22 p.m. EST by tangential (33)
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It has come to my saddened attention that this group whom I originally supported and marched with has more agendas than necessary. 99% is an ECONOMICALLY BASED FINANCIAL NUMBER, not a number based on general social reform, not a number about abortion, equal rights, gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, animal, environmental, gun control or other rights. Until this movement focuses on the basic goal of greater financial equality and anti-corruption, it will never be anything more than a factional group. Get rid of any other statement and agenda and you will be successful in drawing many many more voters and public support.

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[-] 1 points by tangential (33) 1 year ago

I agree that 99% of the people want economic reform, however that being said, until MANY more prioritize it over and above other issues or along party lines - It will never happen. Just saying - a fragmented group is powerless and easily dispersed.

[-] 1 points by tangential (33) 1 year ago

Thanks ogoj11 for your reply. I'm not actually interested in debating any other kind of rights here other than the economical situation facing America today. As a female minority who has experienced almost 10 years of my adult life living and working in a socialist country, and similarly in a capitalist country, I am very concerned with proper allocation of funds. The simple reason that the moral and ethical compass of the politicians in this country is completely off. They are greedy, money-hungry and lacking conscience. The system needs a complete over-haul - only then will there be proper funding for promoting or contributing to social issues. Until then, money will be ill-spent and wasted on politicking.

[-] 1 points by evileye (11) 1 year ago

Why does need a complete overhaul? Politicians work for us. If they're not doing their jobs, then they need to be fired. We have the power as Americans to change things, most are too apathetic to lift a finger.

[-] 1 points by LeoYo (5845) 1 year ago

“In all revolutions, those who ardently pursue the fight to the death are in the minority and there are usually at least as many who are ardently anti-revolutionary, plus an actual majority that is apathetic and will go where they are led (in either direction), if necessary, but who best prefer to be left alone.” -Isaac Asimov http://occupywallst.org/forum/free-democracy-amendment/#comment-539299

"Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it." -George Bernard Shaw http://occupywallst.org/forum/free-democracy-amendment/#comment-520061

[-] 1 points by ogoj11 (263) 1 year ago

Welcome tangential. Most of us would say that racism and sexism are obviously part of the system of control that enables the 1% to rule. Your "conservative" attempt to narrow focus actually supports the 1% by disconnecting issues that need to be understood systematically.

Animal rights certainly are connected to the nature of the world we live in. Even if you're callous enough not to care about animals, the cruel mistreatment and slaughter of our fellow creatures cannot but influence the rest of us, the standards and norms we have, the state of kindness, if you will. Building a better world is not just about getting lower rates on student loans.

[-] 1 points by tangential (33) 1 year ago

That is very untrue - I've been and lived in socialist countries for years and it has nothing to do with that - it has to do with whether the majority have a reasonable voice in their government decisions or not. That is the bottom line.

[-] 1 points by DemandTheGoodLifeDotCom (3213) from New York, NY 1 year ago

I agree that OWS should have the one, simple goal of putting an end to the unfair allocation of income that concentrates most of the income in the hands of the few, leaving everyone else broke..

That is the root of all the world's problems.

What you and the rest of the moderates are probably not ready to accept, however, is that you will never get a fair allocation of income with capitalism. You will only get it in socialism.

[-] 1 points by tangential (33) 1 year ago

So what is the solution? Many of us middle-classers, moderates would support OWS and their protests again if there were a definite and clear statement (NOT 10) about its purpose, and decrying what it is NOT. In the past it was posted on this website the above. I see that statement has been modified greatly, (though still includes animal rights which hints at more left agenda) OWS PLEASE MAKE IT CLEAR that you are no longer adhering to the past statements and that you are sticking to a more mainstream agenda on your website and in your marches! When I no longer see partisan statements, beliefs and signs, both myself and my moderate partner will be back to participate!

[-] 1 points by LeoYo (5845) 1 year ago

The solution lies with the People http://occupywallst.org/forum/free-democracy-amendment/ , not with any particular groups, but with most groups together as apart of the People.

[-] -1 points by Archimedes (6) from Siracusa, Sicily 1 year ago

It was the brain child of in-full-traitors to cling to other groups in order to keep Occupy in the media. The in-full-traitors knew it was a way to cause more fractioning as there would be less agreement with more issues. The GA agreed to it out of fear that Occupy would fade. Fear is a powerful tool long used by the in-full-traitors.