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Forum Post: 75 Stats that Need to Be Realized

Posted 1 year ago on Dec. 21, 2012, 11:41 p.m. EST by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL
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This is a good article. And yes, there is mention of Obama and a poor economy. Try not to go all stupid and assume the entire point of the article is to criticize the current puppet-in-chief.

Its not easy governing in teh mess that the Bush/Clinton syndicate created.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-21/75-economic-numbers-2012-are-almost-too-crazy-believe

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[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

Nothing good comes from poverty.

Why do we allow this in the US?

It's time for fundamental change in our monetary policy that focuses on job creation and social wellness programs instead of giving trillions to the big banks.

How many of these issues could we have solved if we spent the money here instead of Afghanistan?

[-] 2 points by gsw (2693) 1 year ago

Mostly on target. 75 overstates a bit.

Watch Sheila Bair, a republican fdic leader under bush, rip into corrupt bankers, and crazed republican party.

http://billmoyers.com/?search_type=series&post_type=mm_series&content_s=Sheila%2BBair++banks&p=146&sentence=true&submit=

[-] 1 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 1 year ago

You forget that it was Bush that was forced to reverse his corporate stance to deal with Enron. and WorldCom. And after that Xerox, Time Warner, Tyco, etc.

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

Great Post.

56 Corporate profits as a percentage of GDP are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, wages as a percentage of GDP are near an all-time low.

You know if we had Representation in Washington DC, they would look at that fact (and would know it was true already), they would look at that and find ways to rate organizations for

A) How much taxes they pay considering Revenues, Total Tax Write Offs, Off-shoring, Revenues in the USA, High Admin costs, High Executive compenstation packages/benefits, high board of directors compensation, ...and things like the value to the community through wages and benefits to the workers and if workers are employed below the executive level.
B) If the Organization seems to be getting higher profits through negative practices of systematically keeping wages low.
C) What kind of reputation the organization has with workers, industry, customers, etc.

[-] 0 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

Well How the hell would you know? You only had a high school education.....

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28297) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

(?) did that comment float? As I don't know - - - it just does not seem to fit with your 1st comment from 6 days ago.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

I decided to fein a personality disorder to call attension to the OWS stats delineated above in the link to 75 stats.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28297) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

OH - oh - I thought I was missing something.

Never Mind {:-])

Good Night.

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

No very effective or targeted to a specific market, eh. Well sort of wonder how many people or computers are actually logging in to this Forum at any one time. Do we have volume? Do we have the numbers to reach a target market ... and to reach the K-12 Market?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28297) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Everyone of the assholes of money greed conquest have ears here collecting information feelings trends.

Probably still try to market stuff to OWS/Occupy - the cheeky bastards/bitches ( sorry mommy dogs )/mentally ill = fixated on self and the collection of all money and power that is possible - and then more.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

I don't have anything to say here really. I'm not sure we get the young people here. Where do the young people go for education and politics. I suppose Politics are not very popular... But we ahve history here on the forum, but the problem is that a kid would have to sort through the whole website to see historical references.

Okay, so maybe we need more than one forum selection. One for History, one for Chatty current events, and one for poety, art, graphic arts, jokes, quizes, political tests, songs, videos about singing or playing songs, and ... the happy dance!!!! @#%@

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28297) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

There are those all over the place - many of those are putting on a front to cover their anxiety.

Both of my brothers kids seem to be in touch with reality - one is going to college and is a dorm adviser/councilor She is aware but at this point uncertain as what to do - same with her brother - who is working full time - same with their parents - who are damned disgusted with our government - in fact all of my family and extended family are disgusted.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

Proof of Oligopoly Ascention: The Wage Gap, the reduction of wages for poor & MIddle Class, and outrageous Executive Salaries in Giant Corporations. Realized while watching the Robert Reich VIdeo on our Future or Where US is Headed. Ge Gives a talk comparing today to what happened in the Depression.

Tell Everyone We have to Break up Big Corporations, so that they can no longer afford to pay the Big Salaries and Complex Compensation Packages. Sort of like a cap in salary that FDR put together. When executives have to run smaller businesses, they will want a level playing field.

Also this is just old ideas like old law we already used in the USA. Anti-Trust Law. Sort of sounds like Bank Trust of the 1910 era. We broke up Ma Bell, and Standard oil, but beyond that ... the Lobby Must have taken over Washington DC.

[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Google adwords has tools where you can see the search patterns for certain words, its always an interesting way to see whats hot and whats not.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

Listen this might only be a satire to call attension to the Economic Situation, but how the hell do you know I only went to High School or Gymnasium?

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

Oh I know. Last night you left the gate open when you went to walk on the Moors. We all got a nice whiff of the herb when you santered back into the pub.

[-] 0 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

Madam, I don't know who you are talking about, but it is not me. I represent the burgermeister when he is away and I'll not have that kind of statement thrown around about me! I have a good mind to put you over my knee!

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

LOL, check the Economic Stats in the main post above. Pass them to your family & friends.

[-] 1 points by Anarcat (42) 1 year ago

Yes this article was very righteous.

[-] 1 points by voot501 (-4) 1 year ago

Brutal stats

[-] 0 points by DebtNEUTRALITYpetition (638) 1 year ago

The article is undigestible. Almost every item mentioned is debatable as to what it really means and if it is good or bad.

[-] 0 points by DebtNEUTRALITYpetition (638) 1 year ago

So now Clinton is to blame. lol.

[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

You know Clinton is a Bush guy right?

Clinton: NAFTA and GATT- ship jobs overseas, fuck the unions.

Repeal Glass Steagall- unchain the banks, allow for mortgages to be made investments that dont make sense.

Commodities Futures Act- if you dont know the consequences of this one, you should read up on it.

Yes, Clinton is to blame. Along with both Bushes. And Obama isnt signing this current group of bullshit legislation because "they" dont have any intention of ever using it.

[-] 1 points by DebtNEUTRALITYpetition (638) 1 year ago

The first two points you make are easily refutable.

Clinton's presidency created the most jobs of any president ever, 22 million jobs. With such a huge rise in job creation, immigration explodes, rather than jail millions of illegals, the idea was to create more jobs in Canada and Mexico.

Whether the concept worked or not, it was the humane approach to take versus just building a wall and jailing people trying to go where the jobs are.

Glass steagall was actually veto'd by Clinton first, changes were made, and when it came back to Clinton to sign, it was veto proof with congress approving it by over 90%

If your view is so off on these first two points, I'm going to assume your third point has a different point of view as well.

George Bush was disgusted by Bill Clinton coming from Arkansas and even stated so during one of their debates, calling any improvement in education in Arkansas basically worthless because it was Arkansas.

The one thing Bush and Clinton had in common was the apparent drug running going on in Arkansas during the 80's that was apparently orchestrated by people who knew Bush.

Bill Clinton probably realized that while he was governor of Arkansas (and he lost a second term before winning again), he probably better not say anything about the drug running or someone from Bush's corner probably reciprocates in some unseemly manner.

if they were in cahoots, why does he lose a term in between his victories?

[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

The jobs created were short term gain, long term pain, as we are feeling now. The jobs went to Mexico and China. Very few went to Canada, because they are expensive labor as well.

And if you think they hated each other, then you fell for the theater.

Regardless of the details of Glass Steagall, it happened under his watch, and both parties in congress were all for it, as you stated. Which just further proves my point that both of these parties are whores and need to go.

[-] 1 points by DebtNEUTRALITYpetition (638) 1 year ago

I think what Bill Clinton did that was the most important of all was he made it a point to begin reducing the annual budget deficit each and every year he was in office, and he did that, the only president in the past 80 years to do that.

What is actually killing the economy is too much consumer debt and 2% monthly minimum payments (should be 5%) on existing credit card debt.

[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Clinton was a bit before my time, but I believe he fought with Newt about it, and they compromised to get it done. Something we would never see these days.

I think it was impressive to get it balanced, but looking at those three things he did, I have a hard time looking at his presidency with any liking. Then we got Bush, and the whole thing went to shit. Now we have newbie who is incapable of leading.

I guess this is probably how things have always been.

[-] 2 points by DebtNEUTRALITYpetition (638) 1 year ago

Bill Clinton's first year in office he got hammered by the republicans because Hillary Clinton was trying to get comprehensive health care reform passed. Regardless, he STILL lowered the annual operating budget deficit, and then did it seven more times.

Newt was pissed at Bill Clinton because he had to leave off of the back of Air Force One after a return trip from the Middle East. Newt vowed to shut down Congress and stick it to Bill, and that was when Bill grew some balls and stood up to Newt.

The Clinton presidency laid the foundation for the next president to do more and better things, unfortunately, republicans panicked when they saw George Bush jr.'s popularity drop so quickly since the same thing had happened to his father, who lost to Bill Clinton after having a 91% approval rating just 18 months before the next election.

and, democrats deserve blame for putting the republicans in a position of having to clamp down on irresponsible loaning by calling them racist for even warning about a possible mortgage meltdown.

Bill Clinton is also the only president in the past 80 years to leave office more popular than when he arrived. It's why the progressive coup of the democrat party in 2008 was so suspicious, Hillary Clinton would have done a better job than Bill Clinton if given the opportunity.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

You can't criticize democrats and republicans on this site without getting downvoted. You can only criticize republicans. Democrats are never at fault for anything. Not even in 98-0 NDAA bills or 97-1 Patriot Act bills. They also had no role in giving billions to Goldman Sachs. It was all just republicans.

[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Haha. It seems like that sometimes. Some of em will come around eventually. Others, probably the other ones, never will. Its tough to think a certain party has your back and start to realize after a lifetime of supporting them they have done nothing but fuck your kid's world.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

I grew up knowing republicans were trying to fuck me... so I expect it. When Bush went into Iraq I was telling people "I told you so." But when Obama went into Libya and increased drone warfare, I felt betrayed.

Libya was the final straw. That's when I started doing more research and going outside the traditional sources of media.

Occupy also helped open my eyes a ton too.