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Forum Post: 12/21/2012 is the shortest day of the year after that things start to warm in the Arctic.

Posted 1 year ago on Dec. 18, 2012, 11 a.m. EST by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ
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Someone posted a link that said a monk told his followers that starting on 12/21/2012 the power would go out and lots of other bad things over two weeks then slightly less bad things over the next two months.

We will know soon enough if there’s anything to that, but it got me thinking and looking at this chart I do think the two weeks following 12/21/2012 will be very important as will the next two months, things may really be happening right now, almost like the movies.

http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm

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[-] 2 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

The 2009 report was wrong, it underestimated the warming.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/24/science/earth/west-antarctica-warming-faster-than-thought-study-finds.html?_r=0

If you check the posted link you can see this may be the lowest refreeze on record too.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20555) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I think we will have to go past the point where the arctic sea ice is capable of stabilization to realize with certainty that we have passed that point.

Clearly we are well on the way there. I am more interested in the process of collapse of the Greenland Ice Sheet. Loss of Arctic sea ice will impact weather patterns and increase the rate of average global temp rise, but the Greenland Ice Sheet has a significant potential to produce mass migrations of humanity within a very short time span.

Global panic along the worlds sea coasts should be very . . . interesting . . . I'm not at all certain I care to watch . . . . we'll see . . .

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

natural processes follow predicable patterns, we are approaching a tipping point, all things are connected, like the "fiscal cliff" many are asking the wrong question, we should be asking what affects going off the cliff will have, talk of avoiding it is foolish it is like lottery dreaming fun but doesn't lead to much, likewise with climate change we should be talking about what we do as all the ice in the world melts, because it will, unless we win the lottery, now what's the odds on that, I forget

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20555) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I think you have a better chance of being eaten by both a grizzly and a shark i the same day than you do of winning the lottery. Can't remember for sure.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

or finding ice in Greenland after graduation of those born this year

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20555) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

well . . . . just think of all of the new economic opportunities they will have - coastal maps will be redrawn everywhere. What was once a blighted alley will be washed away by tidal currents leaving in its wake a whole new set of beach front property.

Uninhabited, as it happens, since in the social unrest that follows everyone will have fled.

New market opportunities will be everywhere . . .

I wonder what they will use for cash . . .

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago
[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20555) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I can't seem to access that article.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

changed out the links, the other story went pay only I think same subject different report, thanks

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20555) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I don't believe new arctic drilling makes any sense at all. The fossil fuel industry is already in possession of five times more fossil fuel than we can use between now and 2050 - and that was based on an assessment that assumed temps would rise much slower than they are.

It's crazy to look for ways to increase access to an energy source we can no longer use because of its global impact on temps. Crazy.

They must have some geo-engineering projects designed to mitigate the worst effects - which if correct is an indication of the depth of corporate delusion. Potential sea rise of 120 METERS

Not to mention the fact that tornado season has now gone year round and tornado alley has expanded to include maybe two thirds of the country.

As things get worse the conservative tendency will be to create new and faster ways of exploiting the population for wealth extraction, never mind the big picture, and their long range plans will become shorter and more temporary than they are now.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

12/21 was a very bad day for aortic ice, we lost 130 ,000 sq, KM.

[-] 1 points by Clancy (42) 1 year ago

Nothing is going to happen, if to believe in the Mayan calendar then you are horribly uninformed about it. Top Mayan cultural and Archeological experts say that the clock runs on a cycle and that there is no evidence that shows the world will end on that day. By the way what religion was the monk from?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

I think you missed the point, I point out that it's interesting that we are seeing the full melting of the Arctic ice at around the same time of the Mayan thing I don't know if the Galactic Ellipsis will "change" anything or not, but the Arctic Ice melting will for sure.

There is a tipping point to things right when you reach that tipping point you may not know that you have for instance this may very well be the year we hit the tipping point on climate change and the Arctic ice melt is just a sign if you will.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

The arctic doesn't begin to warm for 3 months, and you base your statement on the hearsay from a Monk?

Get back to reality. Stop listening to all of the BS from the gloom and doomers.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

If I thought you weren't very bright before, you have confirmed it, I based nothing on the monk, you really don't read much do you?

12/21 is the shortest day of the year after that things start warming up in the north, I learned that around first grade.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

The two weeks and two months you mention just happens to match up with the Monk's forecast?

Look at the graph. Notice how the ice continues to grow until March.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

That was my point, good job.

hmmm March that would be about two months from two weeks from 12/21 yeah that's about right.

[-] 1 points by trashyharry (788) from Waterville, NY 1 year ago

It's all over but the giant clouds of methane emerging from the permafrost.I fear we are F*CK'D

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

Most likely.

Good news today 12/18 was a good day for the refreeze the ice cap made up a lot of ground, if we get ten or so days like that then we might have another year before full melt. I still think it's less than five years away.

[-] 1 points by trashyharry (788) from Waterville, NY 1 year ago

I am in Upstate NY-winter has still not arrived and there has been hardly any snow or rain.Our water table is estimated to be 20' below normal,and lots of people's wells are dry-unheard of around here in the past.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

12/19 was another good day about 90,000 sq. km. looks to be thinning a good deal though, the permafrost is melting five record warm season in a roll in northern Europe, 3 out of the last 5 were records in North America, so the methane is diffidently coming.

[-] 0 points by trashyharry (788) from Waterville, NY 1 year ago

The end of the world with a giant fart.So Capitalism sucks,blows and farts in public.Very fucking rude.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Kinda eery coincidence? Or something to realy consider. IDK.

We'll see.

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[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

I've heard of trees blocking vision, I'd call this leaves.