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Forum Post: -88 feedbacks for telling the truth

Posted 2 years ago on Jan. 20, 2012, 7:43 a.m. EST by muddFlapp (-108)
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This is what happens when you disagree with a liberal. I posted many stories on here that were the truth and got slammed for them. Libs are only for the destruction of our Country and nothing else

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[-] 3 points by XaiverBuchsIV (508) 2 years ago

Maybe you should be posting at moronsRus.org or townhall.com. You certainly be appreciated there.

[+] -4 points by muddFlapp (-108) 2 years ago

OWS cannot handle the truth and they are not an organization but rather a fad

[-] 2 points by XaiverBuchsIV (508) 2 years ago

If you are feeling unappreciated here, there is a solution. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.

[-] -3 points by muddFlapp (-108) 2 years ago

I and other like me are needed here to spread the truth

[-] 2 points by XaiverBuchsIV (508) 2 years ago

We all know the truth: you are an ignorant partisan troll.

Thank you. Feel free to move on now.

[-] 0 points by YouDontRepresentThe99Percent (-10) 2 years ago

Thank you for spreading the real truth!

[-] 1 points by Lardhead2 (67) 2 years ago

88? Both sides talk past each other. And 88 ?

[-] 1 points by dreamingforward (394) from Tacoma, WA 2 years ago

"for the destruction of our(?) country".

Perhaps this country isn't standing by its principles...?

Is this the Native Americans' country? Why or why not?

[-] 1 points by freewriterguy (882) 2 years ago

what the heck is a liberal and a left wing and a right wing, i bet i couldnt be categorized in any area, because I am a free man, and I disagree with most every point.

[-] 1 points by buphiloman (840) 2 years ago

Like many here I'm a socialist, not a liberal. In fact, I abhor liberalism. The fact that you cannot recognize the difference between the two shows what a mindless little Fauxbot you are.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

71 comments 1 day ago by muddFlapp (-113) last comment 17 minutes ago

What a difference a day can make. You are so popular.

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[-] 1 points by TitusMoans (2367) from Boulder City, NV 2 years ago

You certainly make a great point, but I'm not quite sure what you consider the "truth." Since truth "conforms to reality," and reality is relative to the perceiver, the only "truth" can be what is not not relative.

Jesus called himself the Truth, and since he considered himself God, a non-relative reality, you could consider that statement true, only if Jesus is in fact God.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20395) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

One of many fine examples why I hate repelicans



[-] 0 points by muddFlapp (-88) 0 minutes ago

Yes Mr shoe shine is over qualified, that is why he has the economy in the ditch eh???

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Turning to racial stereotype as opposed to any evidence whatsoever.

nice

and yet another fine example of why

  • the repelican party is DONE
[-] -2 points by justhefacts (1275) 2 years ago

You sir are KING of the Political and Social Bigots.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (20395) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Am I?

Maybe . .

  • I'm just sick of being lied to

    • there is no global warming

    • Iraq has WMD

    • Mission Accomplished

    • Fracking is Safe

    • blue dress stains trump issues of national security - including AL QAIDA

    • Privatization of essential services saves the public money

    • The bailouts caused the economic collapse

    • We should have let GM fail

the repelican party is DONE

[-] -2 points by FarIeymowat (49) 2 years ago

Hopefully zendouche, they can throw the knockout punch to the tyrannical leftists in this country. 2010 elections weren't good enough. A super republican senate majority so we can undo this mischievous shit Reid, Pelosi, and Odumba have strangled us with. Unfortunately we have a supreme court that is loaded with leftist ideologues too. As they croak off, they will have to be replaced with those who are not activist leftists, but true constitutionalists. Hopefully more libertarian congressmen can replace the neocons like Boehner. and senators Of the Arlen Specter type.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20395) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

the tyrannical leftists

Yes indeed . . . the tyrannical leftists . . . .

  • George Washington

    • was a liberal
  • Emancipation

    • was liberal policy

and

  • Jesus

    • was both a liberal

    • and a Political Dissident

Why don't you go purchase some land next to a fracking outfit - and bathe in the poisons polluting the ground water and pouring from the tap . . .

that in time and after much great pain, you may occupy eternity . . . .

[-] -1 points by FarIeymowat (49) 2 years ago

I'll get to eternity in due time. Obama care will hasten the pace for many, however. Hopefully you included. Perhaps we can meet on a more personal level then?

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (20395) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

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[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

It just shows the reception your spewing gets. Change your style and content and you might even get supporters that aren't sock-puppets. Or keep up with the same old spewage and see how deep you can dig your hole.

[-] 0 points by shooz (26603) 2 years ago

FLAKESnews, tells no truths.

It's the (R)epugnant (R)epelican p(R)opaganda machine.

Ask Roger Ailes.

[-] -1 points by Kirby (104) 2 years ago

You sir, are a drone.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26603) 2 years ago

Nope.

I'm King bee.

You're a drone.

[-] -1 points by muddFlapp (-108) 2 years ago

All the sources I provided were not "all from Fox" some were from the liberal camp Huff post to

[-] 2 points by shooz (26603) 2 years ago

You need a basic understanding of how multi-pronged marketing/PR works.

Press releases are a dime dozen.

[-] -2 points by muddFlapp (-108) 2 years ago

Yes but well over 2/3 disapproval rating for OWS is not good

[-] 1 points by shooz (26603) 2 years ago

As is always the case.

They didn't ask me.

Manipulating questions in polls, is how they get the desired numbers.

[-] -1 points by YouDontRepresentThe99Percent (-10) 2 years ago

Why would they ask you? Your a physco conspirating ows protester. Your oppinion does not matter to the rest of the hardworking world.

You have been brainwashed by the handout loving lazy bums that make up the so called "99%"

[-] 1 points by shooz (26603) 2 years ago

Hyperbole, based on assumption. Typical (R)epelican response.

Sprinkled with lame insults.

Plus a strange inability to utilize spell check.

An ineffectual post at best.

I'll give it D-.

[-] -2 points by Kirby (104) 2 years ago

Honesty has never been a liberal strong suit.

[-] -1 points by justhefacts (1275) 2 years ago

It's ok muddFlapp. All it does is provide more evidence to the world that the OWS members on this forum are hypocrites.

You've been "disenfranchised" and "marginalized" by the very same people who publicly vow to "fight for the disenfranchised and marginalized"

You've been downgraded and abused for voicing your opinion by the very people who so boldly declare they stand for freedom of speech.

You've been accused of spewing garbage because you won't spew THEIR garbage.

Your garbage is "propaganda", their garbage is "the truth".

They treat every person who posts something here that they do not agree with, in the EXACT same manner they'll declare that "the rich" are treating "the poor". Only they are too stupid to even change the language they use! You are "useless, lazy, stupid, brainwashed, thieving, irrational, uneducated and embarrassing" to the human race. (But it's perfectly OK for them to think/say/believe it all they want to, or ACCUSE other people of thinking/saying/believing it. Yessiree bob!)

A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs. They are political and social bigots. And bigotry is HIDEOUS wherever it rears it's ugly head.

[-] 1 points by ARod1993 (2420) 2 years ago

It seriously depends on what exactly mudFlapp's been posting. If he's been doing what you've been doing (taking an honest look at what OWS has and has not been doing and then based on that giving an evaluation of what they are or are not getting right and where they should go) and he got treated like crap, then we all owe him an apology because nobody with valuable input should be treated like that and we need people who are willing to question us because otherwise it's too easy to stop questioning ourselves.

That said, I have serious doubts that that's what's been happening here. There are enough people on here who disagree with OWS on various issues that if he were treating the issue rationally and professionally he'd probably have a fairly positive rating. The fact that he's running around below zero means that even if he had serious, valid points to make he most likely chose to shoot off his mouth and insult people instead. I personally don't think we should go easy on or pity mudFlapp, but rather that we should set the same standard of discourse for our own as for our opponents.

[-] 0 points by justhefacts (1275) 2 years ago

That could very well be true on muddflaps part. And if he is being an idiot on purpose, then by all means vote him into the depths of hades for all I care. :-) But my position regarding how they treat EVERYONE who doesn't agree with them remains the same.

YOU are different than 90% of them ARod, and many people have pointed that out. At least YOU are willing to entertain the idea that someone might not agree with them without being a paid, brainwashed, propaganda fed zombie.

[-] 1 points by ARod1993 (2420) 2 years ago

I figured; there is a group of people on here who have a remarkable tendency to get angry and defensive when they see people who think differently from them, and that group does cut across both sides of the aisle. The only differentiation I'd make is that the ones who do this from the right know exactly what they're getting into when they come on here to begin with, so in their case it's just plain trolling. I want our people to clean up their act and avoid insults and ad hominem attacks as much as possible, so that we can distinguish between dissenters and trolls, and when we get actual trolls we have the moral authority to deal with them as such without getting dragged into World War III about "censorship" or whatever other buzzword they choose to trot out when called out for what they are.

[-] 0 points by justhefacts (1275) 2 years ago

Sweetie...I love your optimism..I really do. I'd love nothing more than for you to prove my suspicion that you'll NEVER accomplish that goal, to be wrong. If you do accomplish it, then I'll be the first to admit that I should never have doubted you and that YOU WERE RIGHT all along. Deal?

[-] 1 points by ARod1993 (2420) 2 years ago

Of course; I personally don't think that's ever going to completely happen, but I figure that if I set this as a goal and mobilize with that end in mind, I'll be at least able to get halfway there (and that's a lot farther than I'd get than if I assume it's not possible to begin with). Basically, as long as my resolve doesn't break the first time I aim for the stars and land on my ass (and I've flopped enough other times that I can't see that happening) I let myself believe that perfection is possible because I don't see any harm in it. ;-)

[-] 1 points by justhefacts (1275) 2 years ago

Perfection MIGHT be possible, but one experiences less disappointment (and more happy surprises) if one focuses on what is most probable instead. :-)

[-] -1 points by muddFlapp (-108) 2 years ago

I could not have said it better myself.

[-] 0 points by justhefacts (1275) 2 years ago

Then it's probably a good thing ARod said it huh? :-)

[-] -1 points by smartcapitalist (143) 2 years ago

Dear Occutards, stop calling yourself leftists. You are not. You are just a bunch of whiners. While I do not subscribe to leftist ideology, I have known quite a few people (academics mostly) with left leanings and those are learned people. I may not agree with them but at least they have well reasoned arguments to make and those arguments are based on hard data. Sure, I don't think that all wealth should be equallu distributed and the results of such an endeavor has always been disastrous, but there are some good things those guys have to say. By and large most leftists I have met are learned and well read people. You fools on the other hand don't have the first clue about economics or science or anything other than some of your stupid liberal arts crap which is what you study when you have paucity of brains. So you are neither to the left, nor to the right and you guys are certainly not liberals (I consider myself a liberal but I dislike you). You guys are just whiners.

[-] 0 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

This whole paragraph seems to me to be nothing but "whining" and complaining. Don't you have better things to do?

[-] -1 points by smartcapitalist (143) 2 years ago

I thought this was Whining Central, everyone whines here. Can't I?

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

Well, if you put it that way, I suppose so...

[-] -1 points by capella (199) 2 years ago

with the libs/dems , it's ................free speech for me but not for thee.

[-] 0 points by UncomonSense (386) 2 years ago

Which does not explain either your presence or your posts here ....

[-] -1 points by beautifulworld (20422) 2 years ago

The stories you posted were propaganda. You don't offer any decent analysis for debate. You simply try to denigrate OWS with propaganda.

[-] -1 points by muddFlapp (-108) 2 years ago

None of if was propaganda and it was all true stories. I am getting negatives because OWS is going down the drain??

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20422) 2 years ago

No. Sorry. It was propaganda. You see, propaganda is often true, it's just not a good or fair representation of something. It's finding the little bad thing and making it look like it is a good representation of something.

Why don't you spend your day today debating us on the real issues at hand. There are many problems facing our nation and the world, don't you think? We, OWS supporters are trying to find ways to make our country work again for all of its citizens. If you do this you'll likely see your points go up.

[-] -1 points by smartcapitalist (143) 2 years ago

Oh come on, pot calling the kettle black. The whole OWS crap is nothing but propaganda. There is hardly any reasoned (the way learned people understand 'reason' and not the definition subscribed to by violent, barely educated, drug addict hippies) voice here. You guys, blabber rhetoric as if it were fact. (The line within brackets above would also be rhetoric btw).

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20422) 2 years ago

No. There are plenty of people on here willing to discuss and debate the issues. Even you and I have had some decent discussions. This muddFlapp's posts have been pure propaganda. And, by the way, I personally fit none of the characteristics you impose on OWS supporters. Now, get back to work Mr. Banker.

[-] -1 points by smartcapitalist (143) 2 years ago

Analyst not Banker.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20422) 2 years ago

Sorry. My bad. Don't you work for a bank though?

[-] -1 points by smartcapitalist (143) 2 years ago

Nope. Hedge Fund (with some bit of PE work as well but I am not part of that)

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20422) 2 years ago

Oh, worse! LOL! (Just kidding.)

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20422) 2 years ago

I love this line:

"Hedge funds provide many benefits to the public at large, among which are helping public pension and union pension plans meet their actuarial target returns to pay pensions."

What a joke. And, now the word is out that these hedge fund managers are paying the same tax rate, 15%, personally, on the work they do for hedge funds, as the capital gains rate. We'll see how long that lasts.

[-] -2 points by smartcapitalist (143) 2 years ago

We dont get loans (or bailouts) dear :)

[-] -1 points by Girlfryday (-45) 2 years ago

lol, yeppers.

[-] -2 points by slammersworldisback (-217) 2 years ago

I just posted a similar, but more In-their-face post, myself....

http://occupywallst.org/forum/come-on-you-foolsi-love-it-when-you-hate-me/

you can't use truth or facts here....it's counter OWS, they don't believe in those things......

this is the Hitler Youth of the modern age.....

[-] -1 points by YouDontRepresentThe99Percent (-10) 2 years ago

Your right, you can't talk on this forum unless you agree with this crap. If you don't you get called a brainwashed 1% loving troll and rated down to the bottom of the post.

If you don't agree you have no say. And they think they are better than the politicans and greedy...

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

"Your right, you can't talk on this forum unless you agree with this crap."

You're surprised? This is the support site for OWS. Do you really think that coming here expressly to post crap against OWS is appropriate in any way?

What you morons don't understand is that this site's purpose is NOT a general political discussion forum. It is an OWS forum.

Coming here to specifically to "disagree" with the whole movement is trolling. OWS supporters who come here to exchange ideas about how to make OWS stronger and better naturally react to your brand of narcissism. Gee, it must be something wrong with them, not with your stupidity, huh?

You want to post right wing shit and not be called out on it? Go to a site dedicated to causes you support. Is that really too complicated for you?

[-] 1 points by YouDontRepresentThe99Percent (-10) 2 years ago

Free speech mother fucka!

[-] 0 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Free speech is a legal, not ethical position. Obviously, since you have no ethics, you can't make that distinction.

If you go into someone else's house, uninvited, and start name calling, it is inappropriate, free speech or not "mother fucka". But you're too stupid to realize that.

[-] 1 points by YouDontRepresentThe99Percent (-10) 2 years ago

Thats home invasion. That is illegal. Surely ows knows all about that considering they are supporting it!

Idiot.

BegOnWallStreet

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Home invasion is forceable entry. Trespassing is more accurate in this case.

You don't want to admit the simple truth: This is an OWS site, not a general political argument board. So you come here to insult everyone in the movement, and the movement itself, then cry foul and whine when your trolling isn't welcomed.

Duh!

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (20395) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Is that really too complicated for you?

well duh . . . .

they are righties, after all . . .

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

People are just expressing their opinion about your opinion. What's wrong with that? If people here went to a Tea Party forum, they would probably get the same treatment.

[-] -2 points by wigger (-48) 2 years ago

Keep going, you'll never reach the hardcore nutters but there are thousands of people who come here who are not insane and are looking for both sides. People who never post but want to see what's gong on.

When you post your viewpoint and one of the professional leftists calls you a douche or an idiot, or any one of a thousand other names always remember there are people reading these exchanges and making decisions about the ideas and the people they read about here.

It's always good for our side to be in direct contact with leftists, we always win the battle of ideas. Never worry about what the lifers here say, always remember the reader you have out there who is making a decision based on what they read here.

[-] 2 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 2 years ago

And then when you loose in the market place of ideas you throw a temper tantrum and hold up the political process, kind of like the Tea Party have been doing during the last congressional session, or like former speaker Newt did during his tenure. You don't ever win the battle of ideas you just cry and moan so much that the liberals give you your way so they can get shit done. Also, your corporate masters move their factories off shore when they don't get their way. But keep telling yourself your ideas are strong if it lets you sleep at night.

[-] 1 points by wigger (-48) 2 years ago

Market place? Like Fox and MSNBC? When you say temper tantrum do you mean like the spectacle of state senators running a way like little girls to delay a vote they didn't like? :)

[-] 2 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 2 years ago

oops, my bad. I know how you right wingers don't like the French so Instead I'll say, that was a good point. :)

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 2 years ago

touche

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (21771) 2 years ago

Not really. You don't win at all. :D

[-] -2 points by wigger (-48) 2 years ago

That's for our readers to decide isn't it? :)

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (21771) 2 years ago

Actually, sweet pea. You have already been found out. :D You didn't win at all.

[-] -2 points by wigger (-48) 2 years ago

Excellent, name calling, paranoia and delusion all in one post! You are out doing yourself this morning. :)

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21771) 2 years ago

Just pointing out the obvious, sugar plum!!!

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

To me, the real battle is not between left and right, but between patriots and traitors. Who are the patriots? Those who take sides with the nation state of America. It can be leftists like JFK or FDR or right wingers like Abraham Lincoln.

Who are the traitors? Same as in the revolutionary war, those who take sides with the empire. It was the British empire then, and today, the empire is still based in the financial districts of London and Wall Street. Both democrats and republicans fit into this category as well.

[-] -1 points by muddFlapp (-108) 2 years ago

That's true and from what I see so far is their is a lot more people leaving OWS then there is joining

[+] -4 points by gosso920 (-24) 2 years ago

This site is an "echo chamber" for OWSers and their sycophants.

[+] -4 points by muddFlapp (-108) 2 years ago

Yes but OWS is going broke so this site will be history soon