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From Those Inside Of Central Booking

Posted 3 years ago on Nov. 16, 2011, 5:24 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt

While we've been imprisoned here we've held Assemblies and Mic Checked corrections officers to attend to urgent medical conditions, some of which were the result of police brutality during the raids. There is no food except for bread, no cleanliness, no hygene, no waters, no showers. There are non-occupiers who are suffering here as well.

We do not know what we have been charged with.

We want freedom!

This message was consensed upon by a group of occupiers imprisoned by Billionare Michael Bloomberg and his private army, and relayed to members of the Legal Working Group of #ows.

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[-] 17 points by GarnetMoon (424) 3 years ago

Stay strong brothers and sisters... Justice is coming!

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 3 years ago

Public Enemy - Hard Rhymin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZwD457uhos

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[-] -2 points by Fredastaire (-1) 3 years ago

Old hippie fuck I need your help. Need help making a t-shirt. We need to draw a picture of Zooccotti Park with a cage around it. Here are some ideas: Draw a hippie climbing the cage like a monkey and throwing shit. Draw a hippie rolling in mud and shit like a pig. Draw a hippies fucking like dogs. Draw a picture of a hippie eating peanuts like a big fucking elephant. Draw a hippie as a lazy fucking Ape doing nothing.

[-] -1 points by Alaskan (-18) 3 years ago

Please do not swear so much. It ruins your credibility and makes you look bad.

[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 3 years ago

lol. you are sllooooowwwwww ;)

[-] 2 points by Richardkentgates (5) 3 years ago

We know you better than you know yourself. Warning #2. see terms.

[-] -2 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 3 years ago

you are running around pretending to be me and cussing people out and you want to point out the rules. fuck you. pussy.

[-] 2 points by Richardkentgates (5) 3 years ago

Oh the irony and the sweet smell of you know what......

[-] -2 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 3 years ago

i'm sorry you are so unhappy. it's not my fault or my problem.

[-] -2 points by Genekelly (-4) 3 years ago

I guess you wear one of those made in China, red, white and blue pins that puts you above the rest of US. Very brave...you aspire to coach football at Penn State too. Defense.

[-] 2 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

You are telling me that this is a dead end job - that anyone who aspires to coach football at Penn State must follow in the steps of the prior coach.

If you believe this, I have got a child you need to follow around tomorrow - there piggy, you got company. How gross your statement and how degrading to anyone who actually might want to become a coach there in the future.

[-] -3 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

Sounds like some it has already arrived. Tell your brothers and sisters that a lot of Americans feel that justice waited too long to arrive. A bondsman - call 555-555-5555 And where are the angels that everyone has been waiting for to reorganize society for us - I really don't trust any of YOU to do that, and further, I don't asssume that you would know justice if you were arrested for threatening to throw a m.cocktail in to Macy's.

[+] -4 points by MVSN (768) from Stockton, CA 3 years ago

Maybe. But it ain't gonna be you leftist scum that going to bring it.

[+] -15 points by USCitizenVoter (720) 3 years ago

occupywallstreet you don't have a clue how to debate with our government. our government is not scared of occupy. grow up. you people need some training, how about three years in the marine corp so you can grow some hair on your chest. you boys and girls need some real life experiences to fall back on. so far you haven't had to swim to the other side or die. life and death situations are much different from where you are today just ask any Egyptian.

[-] 8 points by alabama1913 (23) 3 years ago

CombatHeavyEngineer, Star winner for Gallantry in action. 1ea. Purple Heart. Veteran of the Bosnian Conflict and 11+ Mo. Afgan. I support these kids.

[-] 2 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

Thank you for your service. I would be willing to fight so that you, as a veteran, can support those kids, even though I don't.

[-] 0 points by USCitizenVoter (720) 3 years ago

Did a fellow service member die for you to receive the p. h. medal?

[-] 5 points by sameeker (3) from Ludlow, IL 3 years ago

Debating with government is simple. Become a millionaire and bring a sack of cash to the debate.

[-] 2 points by USCitizenVoter (720) 3 years ago

How about asking for a meeting with the governor and if the request is denied then a group gathers outside the governors home to protest for a meeting with him, gets the press involved.

[-] 4 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

And if he grants the meeting - can you really think of anything worthwhile to say to him. You sure haven't impressed me and I an not the Governor. read a few of these posts from your notes - that will put him to sleep and you can sneak out before you embarrass yourself even more

[-] 1 points by Gileos (309) 3 years ago

Becoming a millionaire is simple?

[+] -4 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

Ask an OWSer to carry it for you and it will never get there. Hey my college expenses are paid today. Suckers, go and get your own million, this one is mine. And don't lean against my new car.

[-] 3 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

Troll

[-] 4 points by bettydonnelly (115) 3 years ago

Hey dummy half of us are veterans.

[-] 1 points by USCitizenVoter (720) 3 years ago

I gave to the USofA --US Army 6 years First Cav. Div. Ft Hood TX. My point is Grow Up Occupy.

[-] 0 points by nineeightpercent (11) 3 years ago

I couldn't agree more, USCV...I would love for any of the occupy brats to go through PD training or join the military for a few years to learn REAL debate and situational tactics and have a modicum of respect for the people in uniform doing their jobs, whom the "occupiers" insist upon engaging in violence.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 3 years ago

people in uniform doing their jobs?!?!?!?!?
uniforms dont make people into gods
uniforms dont make right
uniforms CAN make brown shirts

[-] 0 points by iSTORM (0) 3 years ago

When's the last time YOU had a debate with our Government? Please, do tell... Yeah, I didn't think so!

[-] -2 points by Banduras7317 (-16) 3 years ago

those in the armed services are very close to becoming mercenaries. As the saying goes... "show me the money" or really... follow the money. Occupiers got your attention :D

[-] 1 points by Gileos (309) 3 years ago

Thats good bring em on.

[-] 1 points by USCitizenVoter (720) 3 years ago

yes

[+] -4 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

Way to go US someone has to tell it like it is and YOU have just as much right as the OWS big mouths. From the majority of their posts on here, they have not shown that they have a "CLUE" about anything other than making room for themselves and their possessions.

[-] 15 points by powertothepeople (1264) 3 years ago

Exposing America's police state.

Stay strong!

[-] 2 points by nich (57) 3 years ago

Echoes of past protest. There is no reason to accept anything but the right reason. Stay non violent but you know what? Fuck these bastards.

[-] 2 points by Gileos (309) 3 years ago

Fuck them for doing their jobs?

[-] -1 points by Gileos (309) 3 years ago

You have never seen anything close to a police state. You need to find out what one is crybaby.

[-] 1 points by scvblwxq (155) 3 years ago

It sure looks like this country is headed in that direction.

[-] 0 points by nich (57) 3 years ago

When you wake up one morning and see that there are soldiers guarding every corner in your neighborhood, then you will think twice about whether r not you are living in a police state. That happened to me. I suspect that it is not a police state for you as long as you are not in jail. Hooray for you, for now.

[-] 1 points by Gileos (309) 3 years ago

Thank you for proving my point that this is nowhere near a police state. Your rhetoric that it might be one oneday worked well. Do they not teach simple shit like this in school anymore? The fact that these idiots are allowed to gather publicly should be a pretty dead giveaway, if it doesnt stop i do not doubt it will be one by the end of the next year, seems to be working well for barry. But again, the point that this is not and never has been a police state still stands. Thank you.

[-] 15 points by pigeonlady (235) from Brooklyn, NY 3 years ago

Interesting that you are being kept in conditions much worse than those maintained at the park. Shouldn't the police and sanitation come in there and clean up? Bastards. Keep the faith, we love you!

[-] -1 points by Gileos (309) 3 years ago

If we are to beleive the words of this third party, then it seems the conditions are. about the same.

[-] 1 points by scvblwxq (155) 3 years ago

Continuous video of jail conditions would be easy to implement and with people assumed to be innocent should be provided.

[-] -2 points by 6lsmh9 (-3) 3 years ago

Yes start a ONYJ Movement. It is year that they are letting you guys keep us updated while you are in. I could do nothing but sleep when I was arrested

[-] -3 points by foundingbaby (15) 3 years ago

First time in jail, eh? Yeah, sucks, don't it? Ha, ha! Sorry, harsh lesson, I know. It gets worse the deeper you go... you are only on the abiss of the darkness taht is our penal system... often owned and operated by the 1%...

Let's hear some words from your legal team. Who are they?

[-] 0 points by 6lsmh9 (-3) 3 years ago

Been through the leagal system more times than I care to count, but it was for breaking the law. Yeah jail sucks so don't break the law. Or join your friends at the new Occupy New York's Jails Movement. It is where all the really radical, with it protesters are going to hook up. Please go there. Did you hear they got 8 tons of pot off the street today? hate it for the cause, Bro.

[-] 13 points by duranta (52) from New Orleans, LA 3 years ago

This should be on the front page. Set our people free. Why are they still locked up?

[-] 0 points by alexrai (851) 3 years ago

Enemy combatants.... of a failing system.. :p

[-] 4 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

I agree. The NYPD are violating the 8th amendment of the US constitution and Article 3 of the Geneva convention. This is not only disgusting, this shows that these brutes with badges can no longer be seen as law enforcement, but more Soldiers of the 1%.

[-] 4 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

You are right, they are violating the Geneva Convention. Give the bastards nothing but your name, rank and serial number. That will show them.

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[-] -2 points by foundingbaby (15) 3 years ago

The longer you resist the longer you will stay. Just saying...

[-] 1 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

Let them resist forever. Rikers is such a nice place to visit.

[-] 4 points by sumdude (23) 3 years ago

It's just horribly expensive to maintain when it's full of OWS.

[-] 2 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

We will put out a bond issue.

[-] 3 points by sumdude (23) 3 years ago

Good luck selling em! Right now even that's gone down the tubes!

[-] 2 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

We could make them manufacture desks for the public schools and the city offices. We could pay them $1.00 an hour. It would accomplish two thins. First, it would lower school costs so we could hire more teachers and it would also teach these morons what it is really like to be the 99%.

[-] -2 points by foundingbaby (15) 3 years ago

Oh, so you were being a jerk! FU man.

[-] 3 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

No answer shit for brains. Still hiding under your mommas bed?

[-] -2 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 3 years ago

thats nice of you.

[-] 2 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

Want to talk about it wimp. Maybe we can meet and have a meeting.

[-] -2 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

Yeah, something along the lines of "NAME: John Smith, Rank: Taxpayer Serial Number: (throw in your social security number)"

[-] 0 points by Kipple (4) 3 years ago

The Geneva convention? Really? You can't just call... whatever this is... a "war" for your own personal gain.

[-] -2 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

It is war. It's the Rich against the poor. It has happened before in the pages of history, and it's happening again.

[-] 2 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

More like the poor against the rich. The poor in many ways other than that evil old thing called MONEY. A war fought by the ignorant is doomed to lose whether you are rich OR poor. You should read some pages from that history and NOT just the ones you isolate and point to. If all you can do is point - I suggest you learn to read - and if I might be so forthright - learn to apply a little common sense, reason and wisdom to what you read.

Perhaps a little of that history could include a few pages from the Revolutionary Period of the USA. You might be flabbergasted to find that that was a war of the poor against the rich in every sense of the word. The main difference being that the poor at that time had a lot more common sense, reason and wisdom that we see in the people yelling WAR today. MUCH more. Just because you choose to show your bravery sleeping outdoors in a park in the wintertime , does not make you George Washington.

[-] 0 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

By the way since article 3 talks to armed conflict, may I assume you were and your idiot friends were armed when arrested?

[-] -2 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

No, as this is a peaceful movement. Which makes it look even WORSE for the NYPD.

More importantly, Article 3 is very specific on how prisoners should be treated.

See for yourself: http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/WebART/375-590006

[-] 2 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

Please don't make yourself a victim of another system that you despise, this is getting to be nauseating. I suppose that if your toilet in that cell runs over somehow that will be caused by the NYPD as an evil attempt to destroy a peaceful MOVEMENT (and every PUN is intentional in that sentence)

[-] 1 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

Article 3 speaks to how military prisoners in an armed conflict are treated. Are you saying you are an enemy combatant? If you are it would be our pleasure to try you in a military court.

[-] 3 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

Thanks, somehow I think there are only a very few of us who actually have a copy of that Constitution With $500,000 on hand, you would think that OWS could afford a rather large copy or that they, once in awhile, could shout to back through their minions so all would know. Or maybe that is what they are actually doing today - result-all the distortions. Remember when we used to play that little game called GOSSIP.

[-] -2 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

No. I declare the NYPD traitors and enemy combatants.

[-] 3 points by sumdude (23) 3 years ago

The NYPD is a civilian force. You are not a military combatant. You are a protestor who overstepped your bounds attempting to exercise your constitutional rights to free speech and peaceful assembly. You just didn't do it where you're allowed to, or when you're allowed to. Also, your rights were read to you. If your shouting and screaming and carrying on during the reading of your rights drowned out the officers, that isn't their fault. In the case of legal jurisdiction, it's the action, not the perception that counts; how does the saying go? Ignorance is not a defense?

[-] -1 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

As I explained before. This IS war. And since the NYPD wishes to conduct itself like a bunch of mercenaries I will regard them as such. The rights of protesters may have been read, but are they respected?

[-] 2 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

I I I I I It really is all about ME is it not. You have about as much authority and understanding in your declaration as I would have in declaring that you are an idiot.

[-] 1 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

Go back home and ask your mommie to make you dinner, you sir are truly stupid.

[-] -2 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

Care to explain why? Or are you unable to explain past your Ad Hominem?

[-] 2 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

You declare the NYPD traitors? Who in the hell are you to declare anything.

[-] -2 points by Alaskan (-18) 3 years ago

Who is anybody to declare anything anymore? It seems like the only people in monetary power got there with luck or with a good idea. Just ask Bill Gates, or Steve Jobs. I'm sure they both worked hard, but I'm sure there are members of the 99% who've worked mush harder then they have. They just had an idea, or were in the right place at the right time.

[-] 3 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

And history WILL PROVE that it was in a garage and not a park (if you are read up enough to know what I mean).

[-] 3 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

You are right. Innovation and luck have played a big part in people succeeding. However so does having the will to carry your ideas forward. Which is something the OWS people do not have. they are not willing to take chances, they want you to share your success.

[-] 3 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

Give me your money and I will be smarter, dress better, maybe even buy a boat like yours, get a job, move out of the park.

Money really does corrupt does it not. For some it takes $millions to reach corruption, for others a few $bucks will do the trick. SO.... why don't we take up a collection, give each of the 100 or so protesters a few bucks and see what happens - oh yeah, we already did that in the form of $500,000. Did that improve the lives of anyone other than yourself - if not, that is called corruption by the corporate-the very thing that you protest the most. In a post, I challenged the OWS to give 50% of their donations to various charities in their area - how is that working out - never heard a peep or a post from anyone.

[-] -2 points by Alaskan (-18) 3 years ago

I was could see where you were coming from until I got to the end.

They want people with money to stop influencing the government, not redistribute wealth.

If you don't believe me, check wikipedia.org

[-] 4 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

No they want people with money to share the wealth. They have stated this many times. Down here we call that welfare.

[-] 4 points by sumdude (23) 3 years ago

Exactly. How is demanding a 95% tax rate on the very rich not redistribution of wealth? It's like a kid throwing a temper tantrum because he can't take that other kid's candy!

[-] 3 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

Wikipedia - you got to be joking about that as the source of truth.

How about we just simply STOP the government from being influenced. There will always be someone out their trying to influence the government whether it is the huge corporation, AARP, or the little old lady across the street writing letters to her Congressman.

If it is wrong to be so influenced STOP it where the problem is not at some level you determine to be the soft spot. I have no doubt that it would be more difficult to stop this influence by stopping the influenced and that OWS and all the other "adjusters" have decided to take the easy way out and isolate the 1% and try to stop their influence within the government - the collective "government" has to be ltao at this folly.

[-] 3 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

BTW anybody can edit Wikipedia I would not put much faith inn it.

[-] -1 points by Fraqtive42 (87) from Herndon, VA 3 years ago

Yeah, but under extremely heavy moderation.

[-] -2 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

Oh no one in particular, just an eyewitness to their brutality, their misconduct and their crimes. It is my firm belief than anyone in law enforcement that turns against the people they are sworn to protect and the constitution are nothing more but traitors. Pure and simple.

[-] 3 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

Well since i was a witness to OWS resisting arrest and failing to comply lawful ordrs, I declare you to be traitors and advocates for the forceful overthrow of the Government. Also a threat to the health and welfare of POTUS. It is my civic duty to forward a these posts to the Secret Service for possible action.

[-] 4 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

Sorry people. I crowded in to reply to TH3W01F below. The part of "Peaceful Assembly (Assemble and Peacefully if you will allow me)" that I do not understand is the word "Assemble" I really think that there was a good understanding by the signers of the Constitution of what that word meant. In today's confusion, I expect that that word will have to be further explained through our judicial system not by you OR me. However, I expect that it will not be an interpretation nearly as broad as you probably would wish. Under, what I might presume to be, your interpretation, every citizen has the right to assemble anywhere at any time regardless of intended use of an area and regardless of any specific laws that apply to the specific assembly spot. Therefore, I can simply assume that if you have the right to assemble in a certain park-disregarding all other existing conditions-I might also have the right to call an assembly in the mayor's lunchroom, in any American classroom, (just tell the kids to get out), any public building, any wilderness area, and on and on. This is the part of "Peaceful Assembly" that I do not understand. To put it simply, where do your rights end and mine begin - my family and I had hoped to have a turkey leg in Z park this next week - but it is already taken by someone who finagled a two month use permit.

[-] -2 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

Sorry, but there is a little something called the constitution that you might want to read. They have every right to be there.

[-] 4 points by sumdude (23) 3 years ago

Check yourself TH: half of your demands posted on this site call for repealing and seriously modifying the Constitution, to the detriment of all.

[-] 3 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

SOME right to be there. You have a ego too large for this room if you can think that they have EVERY right to be there.

[-] 3 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

If a police officer tells you to move and you resist, how is that a violation of you constitutional rights.

[-] -1 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

What part of "Peaceful Assembly" did you not understand?

[-] 1 points by Kipple (4) 3 years ago

Let me 'splain something to you. That whole serve and protect thing... that goes for everyone. When what's going on in Z Park starts to cross other people's freedoms, or endangers the welfare of other citizens, the Police have an obligation to disband the offending party. The police didn't turn against any of you... you turned against the city. And the situation is far from simple. If the police simply wanted you to go away, you'd be gone already. They wouldn't have waited around for a few months... let you all build homes out of Popsicle sticks and bubble gum, just to have more to clean up.

[-] -2 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

Really? Where were you for the past few months? The Cops have use force. Excessive force at that. The reason it hasn't escalated was because of the peaceful nature of the protesters.

The Mayor wants the protesters to turn violent. It would please his "business as usual" buddies. Give them the "justifications" he'd want. I admire the occupier's courage as much as I pity the oppressor's lack of humanity.

[-] -1 points by 1jbh (11) 3 years ago

What about protecting the businesses that are owned by the 99% that may very well be damaged tomorrow?, They pay taxes so that they and their businesses, (which they have built with their hard work and ambition) will be protected. Wouldn't the police be "traitors" if they didn't do their job and protect those peoples rights? Or is it just that ANYONE who has more than you needs to redistribute what they have your way- "Pure and Simple"?

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[-] 0 points by Capitalist111 (59) 3 years ago

Article 3 of the Geneva Convention does not apply to you, gawd you people are dumb as bricks.

[-] 1 points by devilliers123 (18) 3 years ago

consider sarcasm?

[-] -1 points by powertothepeople (1264) 3 years ago

lol oh yes, as Patriotic Amurricans we must support the maltreatment of prisoners locked up for misdemeanor offenses that involve the exercise of first amendment rights.

They should be treated worse than enemy soldiers who we take as prisoners of war and if you don't believe that, you are dumb as a box of rox!

[-] 2 points by Capitalist111 (59) 3 years ago

Don't get thrown in jail.

[-] -1 points by powertothepeople (1264) 3 years ago

A civilized country has a duty to treat even its prisoners in a civilized manner. Even those charged with misdemeanors associated with our constitutional right to free expression and dissent.

"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members."

Do we want to be great, average or just another fascist shithole?

[-] 2 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

From the "mouths" I have seem in pictures and videos of the protesters, there is some question in my mind who was actually being abused. SO I can only ask, is the also a one-way duty that belongs only to the officers and not the people. I have no reason not to give the highest respect and regard to an officer - however if I shout and throw a liquid in his fact, I am not going to complain to no end about having a couple of teeth knocked you.

[-] 2 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

So you admit the OWS members are the weakest citizens in our country?

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[-] -1 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

Oh really and why is that O great Wazoo?

[-] 2 points by Capitalist111 (59) 3 years ago

You're not in a Armed Conflict that isn't of a International Conflict. Douche bag.

[-] -1 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

I must quote Prime Minister Diefenbaker, "At the beginning of the session, I thought my opposition was a wit. I now regretfully conclude that I was only Half-right."

Tear gas, rubber bullets and batons are weapons, and the Occupy Movement is global. This is class warfare, it is an armed conflict.

[-] 3 points by sumdude (23) 3 years ago

There is the issue of you don't get to have our Constitution TH; it's for the US. You're Canadian. At least your ID says so. And when you refuse to peaceably take it elsewhere, the police are authorized to disperse this unlawful assembly with non-lethal means, including tear gas, rubber bullets and batons. While you're being pummeled into submission, please note how you are beat about your arms and legs, referred to the green zones by police instructors. Also, I thought you said you ere peaceful demonstrators; how can you wage armed conflict if you're peaceful? Does this mean that you represent Canada in an armed conflict against the United States?

Just sayin' man. If you have a beef, note your location, make plans, do it right. I don't agree with you, but jump through the hoops and do it right, I'll support your right to do it. I just won't vote for a 90% tax on the "very rich", whatever that's defined as.

[-] 2 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

yeah, yeah, yeah, blow Canada up before I even get to visit. I just can't risk going anywhere during this armed conflict.

[-] 2 points by Capitalist111 (59) 3 years ago

Sure there Mr. Revolutionary, now go back to your Mom's basement.

[-] 0 points by RedJazz43 (2757) 3 years ago

I'm 68 years old. My mom's been dead since 1996. Where shall I go?

[-] 2 points by Capitalist111 (59) 3 years ago

Well if your 68 and don't have a place by now, I would say you probably screwed the pooch.

[-] -1 points by Banduras7317 (-16) 3 years ago

Excuse me, this is language that is offensive. The violence is in your words. You may not be ashamed but you should be.

[-] -1 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

Hey, Glad you acknowledge me as your better. (When you are THIS BIG, they call you "mister").

[-] 2 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

Or FAT, obese if we want to be nice, and weight challenged if we want to politically correct - anyway you look at it, you are FAT

[-] -1 points by Riceball (9) 3 years ago

Well, you know the saying, or somerhing like it, you dont bring a sign to a gun fight!

[-] -1 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

In this case, don't go to a protest unless you have something that rivals the Ursa Mark VI (The grizzly suit).

[-] 1 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

As long as you do not deprive others of their rights you have the right to assemble. You cannot assemble on the long Island expressway and block traffic. Do you understand this? The people occupying the park were depriving others the use of the park, not to mention the violations of city ordinances. Why don't you try that and see how the RCMP respond.

[-] 0 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

In Ontario, it's the OPP, I guess you know very little about our land.

[-] 2 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

OPP, RCMP??? what is you point - if is just to call out ignorance, I can give you ignorance - I know what steven2002 meant by RCMP, I no idea what your OPP is.

[-] 1 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

OPP, RCMP what the difference? Go occupy a public place and se what happens.

[-] -1 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

Oh goodness. What's the difference? Allow me to educate you a little.

The provinces, for the most part, have Provincial Polices. These are Ontario, Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador. The rest have municipal contracts with the RCMP.

The RCMP, also double as our equivalent to the FBI, with liasons to several countries, including your own. Our Answer to the CIA, is CSIS (Canadian Security Intelligence Services).

And Occupy land? I can occupy crown land anytime I want. You forget our ways are much different than you neighbours down south.

[-] 2 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

Thank you for the information from a reliable source, it is appreciated. I may be an old dog, but I still crave learning. Thanks again.

I just have one question? Do you mean all crown land or some crown land-a very honest question - no ill intent whatsoever. I want to know.

[-] 2 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

Go take over a public park in Ottawa, call em from jail.

[-] -1 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

You got a one track mind. I guess the "Ann Coulter school of aggressive argumentation" doesn't seem to work too well for you. :)

[-] 2 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

You took that course - I could only wish that I could afford that one.

[-] 2 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

Answer the question, what would happen if you took over a park in Ottawa?

[-] -1 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

Here's the problem;

1) If I answer your question, what will you do with the answer? Argument intelligently? Or use it to feed your ego?

2) What benefit would I gain from answering it? What's in it for me?

[-] 2 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

I do not want to see you jailed. I do not want you to throw away your future. I want you to go to school, get a good job, get married , have kids and be a productive member of society. Maybe someday you will be the CEO of a major corporation. that is up to you. I will tell you this, if you keep going in the direction you are headed you will end up a loser on the public dole.

[-] 2 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

Never mind, I will tell you the answer. You would be arrested and tried. probably sent to jail. Keep tap dancing around the answers little boy. you are only making a fool of yourself.

[-] -1 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

I am not the one with a fixation on seeing me jailed.

[-] 2 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

Answer the question. What would happen if you took over a park in Ottawa?

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[-] -1 points by nich (57) 3 years ago

Amen.

[-] -1 points by alexrai (851) 3 years ago

Maybe if someone else gave them 5 Million like JP Morgan they would find something else to do?

Will they work for the highest bidder, or do they stay loyal to the first gratuitous bundle of cash thrown their way? That is the question. :/

[-] -1 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

BTW all is not lost, even in prison there is a 1%, these are the prisoners that have a lot of prison money. Maybe you can convince them to share the wealth.

[-] -1 points by dotsend66 (43) 3 years ago

My brothers and sisters, figthting for freedom is not easy.We are against the corrupt system, and it is going to be touhg fight.The government is scared to death of our movement, and is going to throw anything in its disposal to silence us.But, they dont know one thing, that PEOPLES POWER is much stronger, then they think it is.

[-] 2 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

OK BS

When you get hit by that "anything in, ("at" if you will) its disposal, you will not have the privilege be posting your crap on here any more There will be a shrill whistle and your computer will simply go away.

In the meantime, don't build your ego up to the point of believing that you even deserve anyone throwing anything in your direction. Not even a rotten egg.

[-] 0 points by USCitizenVoter (720) 3 years ago

you don't have a clue how to debate with our government. our government is not scared of occupy. grow up. you people need some training, how about three years in the marine corp so you can grow some hair on your chest. you boys and girls need some real life experiences to fall back on.

[-] -2 points by karenpoore (902) 3 years ago

There is only one problem you do not have the 99% behind you. They are laughing at you and becoming irritated.

[-] -1 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

Because they committed a crime, they are being finger printed, advised of their rights and booked. They then have to wait for a judge to set bail. That could take weeks.

[-] 2 points by scvblwxq (155) 3 years ago

Alleged to have committed a crime. Has innocent until proved guilty been suspended?

[-] -2 points by AuditElmerFudd (259) 3 years ago

Bam! And there's a show.

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[-] -2 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

I might be wrong, but I think that it is because someone put them in a cell and locked the door - of course I might be wrong - considering the distorted reasoning on these posts - maybe they ran into a cell and locked the door behind themselves. WHATEVER. Somehow it must be related to the evil NYPD and their corporate sponsors.

[+] -6 points by PrairieChick (8) 3 years ago

Because they broke the law. I spent the night in jail once because I broke a law. I never did it again.

[-] 3 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

You still have rights even arrested. Remember this.

[-] 3 points by ssassy (83) 3 years ago

Too many are willing to give up those rights. They don't remember they have any rights at all, actually, and are too busy being 'thankful' to their masters for still having a job that pays sharecropper wages.

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[-] 1 points by scvblwxq (155) 3 years ago

I was jailed in Santa Monica for no reason once. They kept me over night didn't ask me any questions then released me in the morning saying "this one is on them".

[-] -2 points by itsaparadigmshift (15) 3 years ago

but u were charged with something. You didn't spend the night for just "breaking the law." genius

[-] 11 points by owspatriot1 (10) 3 years ago

They're trying to discourage/break those in custody. I don't think their strategy is going to work. Solidarity forever... stay strong...we have your backs!

[-] 10 points by dotsend66 (43) 3 years ago

Bloomberg and his criminal government must be recalled.

[-] 9 points by PeaceMinister (6) from Philadelphia, PA 3 years ago

Did anyone notice that every comment in support of "Occupy" has negative points, and every one speaking hatefully has positive points?

[-] 7 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

Yeah I know, it's the opposition's method of trying to shut us up.

[-] 7 points by lisamarie2infinity (14) 3 years ago

Dear PeaceMinister,

I am happy to see that someone else noticed the trend. Though I can only assume that the trend (law enforcement psychological tactics and ill informed individuals) is to discredit the movement and to cause "emotional upset" among members with illogical insults (from the standard responses with slight variations for flavor) via electronic waves i.e. The internet :-) Unfortunately for them the patterns are so obvious (perhaps deliberately?) that it detracts from their agenda and I have begun to find their comments rather stale. Ultimately I recommend just ignoring them unless they have a solid comment or response. It is easier for them to "dislike" a comment just to attempt a spiteful attitude, rather than actually create an interesting and intellectual dialogue among peers and proving themselves knowledgable. Let's cross our fingers that they actually begin to research our purpose i.e. How the FED operates vs just being ingnorant (cutting off their own noses in spite of themselves).

Cheers,

Lisa Marie Chadwick

[-] 2 points by MachineShopHippie (216) from Louisville, KY 3 years ago

Spread the word on this wherever you can. I noticed it, and have been trying to get people to understand that this results in a form of censorship. We need to make sure those in support of the movement have their voices heard.

[-] 1 points by Everyonegetsatrophy (7) 3 years ago

Could it possibly be...just maybe...that some people do not feel the same way as you? Nah, obviously a conspiracy. Nobody could possibly disagree with you.

[-] 8 points by joannagw (16) from Denver, CO 3 years ago

I love you OWS - You are GREAT! I totally support you - I pray for you every day - I send love to you every day - have been here with you since the beginning - I am so happy for you that you are all learning how to cooperate and get along with each other - and take care of each other - regardless of the "outcome" your lives will be profoundly changed by this experience and you will be the change you want to see in the world. I am here in Denver creating a worker cooperative - I see that as a solution to the problem. Cut off the blood supply to the cancerous tumor and it will die. We are encountering the same problems you encounter although I think you guys are getting along better than we are - since we still have a roof over our heads and food we can still be egotistical arrogant assholes - but you have to love each other to stay alive out there and that's what you are learning - and that's what we are learning too... not everyone will learn it, but a majority of people occupying EARTH will need to learn it if earth is going to survive this time.

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[-] 6 points by TMS (3) 3 years ago

By law you will be told the charges at the arraignment. Unless they are using the "terrorist loophole" around habeas corpus that Bush instituted you will not be held for more than 48 hours without being arraigned.

[-] 1 points by bigbangbilly (594) 3 years ago

Ever read " How does it felt to be a problem?" By Moustafa Bayumi?
In Rasha's story she was held for 90 days. I am very sorry for spoiling the book. The book is non-fiction.

[-] -1 points by Banduras7317 (-16) 3 years ago

No, but now I want to read it.... I never wanted to be a problem until now.

[-] -1 points by ssassy (83) 3 years ago

According to the Patriot Act, detainees can be held indefinitely under the suspicion of terrorism. I'm sure there are those in the elite class scrambling to connect OWS with terrorism. The FEMA camp controllers are just waiting for the opportunity to open up shop.

[-] 5 points by jane1 (100) 3 years ago

The media is so funny. One Reporter said "now that the movement is over," are you kidding!! It has just begun!! OWS ROCKS!

[-] 5 points by Zigged (12) from Verdun, QC 3 years ago

To all the downers in here: muting others won't change reality. The Police raided the camp first, and got legal ruling justifying it afterwards. And there was no pressing need, such as lives being in direct danger, to move against that many people without a court order in hand. Getting it the next day, when the people who might debate it are in jail, smacks of hypocrisy.

There was no Law or civility, just two mobs: one armed, the other unarmed. That's quite a sad state of things. Violence doesn't solve problems, despite what Fox news might claim.

[-] 0 points by Gileos (309) 3 years ago

Yea nevermind all the crimes being committed. Seems to be working, what do you have against fox news?

[-] 1 points by Zigged (12) from Verdun, QC 3 years ago

If they could arrest people and keep them locked up, and actually charge them with something, they would have. As for fox news, it's more wrong than it is right-wing. Things like 16$ dollar muffins, bought in bulk, don't exist. http://www.factcheck.org/2011/09/fanciful-facts-at-fox-news-debate/

[-] 2 points by Gileos (309) 3 years ago

I think they have to catch the guys first. Your points are strawmen at best. Fuck the muffins you gotta be slow to think this admin isnt spending more then we take in.

[-] 2 points by Zigged (12) from Verdun, QC 3 years ago

They are spending more. But not on 16$ muffins: a trillion dollar army to fight uneeded wars, and the trillion dollar medical insurance ponzi scheme that is the leading cause of bankruptcy in america.

[-] 4 points by believethetruthwillsetyoufree (15) 3 years ago

I believe you. I know a young woman who was jailed for a DUI a few years ago and she said the jailers treated her horribly, wouldn't give her anything to drink and wouldn't let her shower. I was subjected to police brutality a year ago while being picked up for suspicion of harm to self and had Kaiser and a Kaiser-affiliated mental hospital deny me medical care for my police-inflicted injuries and act without integrity to prevent me from getting medical records of my injuries. The police are being horrible to you in hopes that your spirit will be broken and you will no longer risk arrest through civil disobedience and therefore cannot fight them by tying up the jails and police resources by getting arrested. Stay strong and keep fighting by not acting out of fear.

[-] 1 points by USCitizenVoter (720) 3 years ago

DUI is serious. Lets be thankful your friend didn't hit another car and kill a kid. She should get 5 years of jail time but maybe she will think before getting behind the wheel again if she's impaired.

[-] 4 points by djvjgrrl (2) 3 years ago

you are the heroes and martyrs of our generation. be proud and stay strong. WE WILL NOT LET YOUR SUFFERING GO UNNOTICED; WE WILL NOT LET YOUR SACRIFICE BE IN VAIN. we are with you, we are one... we are the 99%

[-] 0 points by 6lsmh9 (-3) 3 years ago

I make less than 100K per yr, which a lot of you protesters mommies and daddies make more than and give support to you which where you get these ideas from, but anyway you do not speak for me nor a lot of other hard working Americans. So your 99% is a myth in your own mind.

[-] 3 points by scvblwxq (155) 3 years ago

If you want to keep making money it might be wise to look where this country is headed.

More people are making less money in real terms and the quality of products has declined. A trend that needs to be reversed.

It all began with the factories being moved to China and other offshore outsourcing which cost us around 20 million US jobs.

As long as we have a large trade deficit sucking $500 billion a year out of our country we are in big trouble.

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[-] 3 points by ECOaus (3) 3 years ago

Hi. Melbourne, Australia and New York, USA are travelling parallel. The Missing Links are Michael Bloomberg and Robert Doyle - mayors, friends and members of the anti- free speech collusion machine. No tents, no 'structures', no democracy. They have their very own livestream!! Bloomberg is the head of a group of C40 - so-called sustainable cities. Furthermore, Doyle, the slightly overweight Chairman of Melbourne Health, is a partner with consultants The Nous Group. He specialises in Security and Intelligence. The NY raid occurred just a few hours before the latest raid on some tentsfolk. Also, as Naomi Wolf writes, these mayors today are crazy about permits. The 2003 Peace Camp had civilised bureaucrats to deal with. No Civil Society today??

[-] 3 points by nucleus (3291) 3 years ago

Has anyone contacted the NYC chapter of the National Lawyers Guild?

(212) 679-6018.

[-] -1 points by athos (-3) from Brooklyn, NY 3 years ago

Yes they were there all day.

[-] 3 points by patsgirlforever (-1) 3 years ago

How sick is the city of New York to allow this to happen....this is a travesty. These innocent people need to be released IMMEDIATELY and the city needs to be sued!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[-] 2 points by maggiacomo (4) 3 years ago

u big babys get over it ur only in there for a coupel of hours police were doing there job u guys r just retarted and this is nothing like a police state

[-] 2 points by econdemocracy (41) 3 years ago

"Those non occupiers you talked about are called CRIMINALS HAHAHA!!!"

And in this country about HALF are for the victimless "crime" of drugs:

"So... our federal prison budget in 2007 was $6.3 billion, and 55 percent of the prisoners were there for drug offenses." that's from Esquire magazine, or maybe you consider Esquire magazine to be commie-anarchist-terrorist-hippie-other-bad-words-blah-blah-blah too?

Maybe now it's not so funny that they have a different view of "criminals" than the one TeeVee land gives us?

We are the #1 top Prison State on Planet Earth, too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate

higher rate than even Russia, which is saying a lot...the war on drugs is a big part of why...and the war on the poor...next up: the war on the middle class, and that's already progressing.

Given that context, it's maybe not so "funny" that they refuse to just look down on all "criminals" some of whom will be convicted for victimless "crimes" and some of those you called "criminals" are not even going to be charged because guess what, the kids was picked up in a low income neighborhood and maybe didn't do anything but stand near another group that is 'suspected' of something, etc...so not so strange they deliberately used those terms, on purpose, instead of 'criminals'

Wake up and smell the coffee America

Stay strong brothers and sisters

P.S. I do not take, never have taken, and never plan to take any illegal drugs. The "War on Drugs" is still utter bullsh*t, as are many other "three strikes" laws and other laws designed to create a Prison State to lock up poor people and to keep everyone else scared of criticizing the state or criticizing corporate america..

[-] 2 points by CitizenToday (7) 3 years ago

I AM ASKING YOU, FROM ONE OF THE 99%, NOT TO DO THIS TOMORROW. I LIVE DOWNTOWN AND NEED TO GET TO WORK TO GET PAID. DO NOT CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR ME TO GO TO WORK! If you want to make a difference, hire professional lawyers and go to the Capital. Hire creative people (you can create jobs with your donations) to come up with a plan to create jobs. Leave us people trying to work that live in finance district alone! I am not a trader, just someone who wants to get to work safely.

[-] 1 points by devilliers123 (18) 3 years ago

Take a day off on me darling..

[-] 0 points by the4thofjuly (32) 3 years ago

unfortunately, the problems we collectively face cannot be fixed that easily. the stability of everyday life has to be shook if we're to affect any change.

[-] -3 points by leoneo (76) 3 years ago

In other words, we don't care if you make it to work to support your family or not because our view of what we are owed out weighs any rights you may think you have? Do I have that right?

[-] -1 points by gtrabbit (11) 3 years ago

You must have a really low sense of self worth if you can't imagine anything more than scrambling about for the crumbs your boss throws your way-- if your highest goal in life is showing up to work on time...

You should know that you're a beautiful person and you deserve much more than this. Don't let the corporate world take away your sense of human dignity.

If you are really are a worker, then I know that you're strong-- you're capable of sacrifice. You should channel that strength into making the world into a place where you can live happily. Don't waste your potential on trivial labor.

[-] 2 points by lomtevas (12) 3 years ago

You are experiencing the BS each and every citizen goes through when they are arrested.

You must go through central booking where you are fingerprinted and photographed to fill in a database of criminals. A huge computerized mug shot is printed onto a cover page and a CJA report is produced listing prior arrests and convictions. Then, once this packet is completed, you wait in a pen until the bridge officer calls your case for arraignment. You get whisked over to a judge of a criminal court at night. Your legal aid attorney waives the reading of the complaint and enters a not guilty plea. The "people" offer an ACD for disorderly conduct and your legal aid lawyer asks you to accept. You accept and you are out and must remain arrest free for six months. If you are re-arrested, the prior ACD is vacated and now you face possible bail and a trip through the adjournment parts (AP) until you give in and take a plea to slightly more serious charges.

Republicans love this system of justice: every citizen is subject to "Judge Judy" justice. This was Giuliani's method of cleaning up New York. Arrest everyone, put them through the arraignment process and hang them up in court for months - costing them their jobs, their families and their freedom.

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[-] 2 points by MachineShopHippie (216) from Louisville, KY 3 years ago

FOR THOSE WHO ARE LOCKED UP:

Instead of trying to remember each deprivation and indignity, if every person can remember all possible details about a specific incident that they were personally involved in, the stories will be much more powerful when we can get them out to the world. Details like the names of the officers involved, the exact amount of time without food or medical care, any direct quotes that can be attributed to a specific person, these are the details that will make all the difference in how the story is perceived by the outside world.

The narrative must focus on facts, not feelings if we want justice to prevail. Get the details out any way you can.

Also, beware of plants by the NYPD. You're in a cage, they can plant one of their own among you at any time. Beware of any unfamiliar person engaging in behavior that could result in punitive action against everyone. Do your best to maintain the peaceful nature of the movement even inside a cell. It may not seem like it, but things can always get worse, especially inside the NYC Dept. of Corrections. Don't give them any excuse to further rob you of your freedoms or separate you for individual victimization.

Stay strong brothers and sisters! Remember, God is in the details!

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[-] 2 points by bigbangbilly (594) 3 years ago

Inflicting psychological tpain breaks the 8th amendment.

[-] 2 points by wiseone60 (3) 3 years ago

new york correction facilities has always been sick and corrupt .. their the worst of the worst

[-] -3 points by PrairieChick (8) 3 years ago

It is supposed to be a punishment for breaking the law. It is not supposed to be a one star hotel room.

[-] 3 points by zeph (0) from Lakewood, CA 3 years ago

you do realize that they haven't been convicted of anything because in this country there is this little motto "innocent until proven guilty." So it can't be punishment for "breaking the law". This is punishment for not bending over and taking it like a good shill like Bloomburg and the rest of the people that whore themselves out to lobbyist.

[-] 1 points by PrairieChick (8) 3 years ago

Just because they haven't been convicted, doesn't mean they can't be put in a holding cell. Actions have consequences and bad actions have bad consequences. Peaceful protesters who get permits and follow the rules don't wind up in holding cells.

[-] 1 points by cmt (1195) from Tolland, CT 3 years ago

How about 2 people who were in the bank to close their accounts when OWS showed up, they left, and were hauled back into the bank and arrested.

They are, I'm pleased to say, suing.

[-] 1 points by PrairieChick (8) 3 years ago

I hope they win their suit. They happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I hope they sue OWS too. It was because of their actions that these 2 were wrongfully arrested. Now that OWS has filed for 501(c)3 status, they can be sued. Won't that be fun to watch in the news.

[-] 1 points by cmt (1195) from Tolland, CT 3 years ago

I don't see your reasoning. They did not drag them back in. They did not claim they were part of the protest. OWS did not target those two in any way.

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[-] -2 points by Zendude (75) from New York, NY 3 years ago

Bravo! Innocent until proven guilty! We will overcome this farce. I, for one, am ready in non violent protest to be arrested in support of this movement. They cannot win and they cannot hold us down forever. They also can't arrest all of us!

All for one, once and for all!

[-] 1 points by DDVoltaire (0) from New York, NY 3 years ago

Your "punishment" for being suspected or accused of breaking a law is detainment, not poor facilities and quality of attention. Punishment is supposed to follow conviction for a crime. In humane systems, anyway, but we're not talking about a humane system, of course.

[-] 1 points by PrairieChick (8) 3 years ago

I like the word detainment better than punishment and stand corrected. As far as the quality of the facility, as long as they have indoor plumbing, heat and electricity, they should be thankful. Our jails aren't as bad as those in Libya or Mexico, and most of them don't have rats. If the protesters want to have attention paid to them, they need to stay in a hotel. Law enforcement doesn't have the staff to coddle them so they feel good about their detainment.

[-] 0 points by nich (57) 3 years ago

Your strenth is the ability to wait, to fast and to think.

[-] 0 points by ssassy (83) 3 years ago

Yeah. Fighting against the machine is breaking the law.

So, what type of facilities do the douche-bags on Wall St. deserve? I haven't seen ONE of them in handcuffs, but we can arrest 4,000 protesters.

How do you support this system? You are sane, right?

[-] 1 points by MachineShopHippie (216) from Louisville, KY 3 years ago

People are negging the comments as a way to suppress them. Look at how many responses are not even visible because they are at -4 points. Many of these are messages of support for those inside and reminders that even prisoners have rights.

A very small effort by a few people has completely changed the face of the comments here. Please be aware of this, read the comments and upvote the things you agree with, and downvote the things you don't agree with.

[-] 1 points by vixen (1) 3 years ago

The book the mayor and City Hall doesn't want you to read:

http://www.soliloquypress.com/Soliloquy/MW.html

[-] 1 points by etech2000 (3) 3 years ago

Inhumane treatment by Central Boocking? Send some media into Central Booking if this is true. Let's see some proof because anything that sounds as bad as the 1943 former Nazi Camps would be sooo illegal. Even justice facilities by law can not treat people wrongfully and it sounds like a huge law suit on the city. I'd say this is a B.S. posting. The media would be all over it. Maybe the site needs a better monitoring system that when false news is presented the IP address is blocked as a fraud and deformation of character prevention measure and if the story is false OWS needs to set an example by ousting the perp and letting the perp get his own lawyer and not one appointed by OWS.

[-] 1 points by DesertSun (2) 3 years ago

Keep the faith. Your message has been heard. Those in power are on guard, now. Their shills are doing their dirty work, including lambasting you online. What a joke. We will win in the end. Stay strong.

[-] 1 points by rocknewtown (18) from New York, NY 3 years ago

Wah, wah, wah. I'm entitled to do whatever I want in a city I don't live in and can't afford to live in and break all the laws and then whine some more when I get thrown in the can.

OWS is obviously a group of disgruntled hicksters from middle-america who dreamed of making it rich in ceramics, puppetry, fine arts, or whatever – only to see their dreams vanquished by the current recession. And now they’re simply facing the tough reality that they've made horrible idiotic decisions in life, so they want the govt to bail them out by paying back their student loans for them since they're unemployable. Imagine going to school for something that would help you contribute to society! But no - can't be a doctor, or a scientist, an engineer, a lawyer. No, those aren't cool jobs that allow you to comment on Gawker on the internet all day and play around on facebook uploading vintage-looking photos from the party in Bushwick last weekend. Own up to your mistakes. No one held a gun to your head and forced you to take on debt for useless degrees and no one held guns to your parent’s heads and forced them to buy mcmansions in suburban CIncinnati that are now worthless. Obviously a lot of you are the offspring of parents who were unable to pay their mortgages, made poor financial decisions, etc. It makes perfect sense - the apples don't fall far from the tree out there in ol' Ohio, right? Face it, you are not the 99%! You are maybe now part of the 8% or so who comprise a great part of the unemployable permanent underclass in our society. So please leave NYC. We’re glad you were able to experience our city for a short time. We hope you had fun. Now please - go back where you came from. You're not entitled to camp out in a privately owned place where real NYers live their lives and pay taxes. 10s of thousands protesting? Really? Wow! Out of a country of 310 Million? Lets be extremely generous and say you have 50,00 protesters nationwide. Out of 350M what % is that? You are 0.00016% of our population! Will you please get a clue and walk right on over to the Port Authority – hit he road and stop looking for handouts from NYC? Thanks! Almost forgot - try that shit in the subway tomorrow - holding doors open or whatever you think will be fun and disruptive to people (the real 99%, not your pitiful backwoods 0.00016%) and you'll see how actual NYers with jobs respond to you bored out of town hicksters with nothing better to do. Try that shit in Morrisiana with the bros in the Bronx or in Gravesend with the guidos and lets see how it works for you. Oh yeah, I forgot - you've never heard of those places since you're all hicksters from middle-america who’ve only ridden the L train from Lower Manhattan to Bushwick since you came here 2 mos ago. And by the way - full disclosure - I agree with most of what you protest for. You've just managed to do it in a backwards way typical of the people who you've employed to take part in your little campout and set normal people like us back even more. And nice job censoring all the comments you don't agree with. It would be wonderful to have jerkoffs like you in power. Thank god we don't have to worry about that...

[-] 1 points by lisamarie2infinity (14) 3 years ago

Dear rocknewtown,

I think you are a very unique individual, being able to "straddling the fence" some perhaps would describe as. Though I understand how easy it can be to generalize about a group (or race, sexes, countries etc) I thought you might find joy knowing that I am an Occupier who paid off all college debt and credit card debit. I own my house outright and my vehicle is completely paid off. The great news is that I am not the only Occupier that got a hold of their finances etc. :-) I have been on the other end of the stick, growing up on food stamps off an on depending on layoffs, receiving used toys for Christmas, later excessive school loans, credit card debt etc. Because of my experience in both worlds (hand to mouth poor and financial secure),as well as observing others in the either or/or back and forth (born into it, layoffs and downsizing) I realized logistically that if our money/economic continued/continues in the manner that it has been ran down too, that it will essentially collapse...much like a snake eating itself. But don't take my word for it...I recommend watching the documentary "Zeitgeist: Moving Forward". It is approximately 3 hours long and informative; but even after watching that I recommend studying the intricate workings of The Fed to truly find out for yourself.

Cheers,

Lisa Marie Chadwick Censor: to delete (a word or passage of text); an official who examines books, plays, news reports, motion pictures, radio, television programs, letters, websites, etc., for the purpose of surpressing parts deemed objectable on moral, political, military or other grounds etc. Seeing as your comment is still posted among others, you haven't been censored.

If there actually was censorship happening on OWS website I dare say your response (as well as many others) would be deleted (already) as well. At first I thought things were being deleted (actually just mine) but I realized comments get compressed after so many are posted. Scroll down the screen and look for your handle and click the + (plus sign) to expand your comments and reponses to your comments.

[-] 2 points by scvblwxq (155) 3 years ago

The Fed adds reserves(money) to the big banks accounts with the Fed. The banks lend the money out which through fractional lending which multiplies it by around 10x then the government borrows the money back with interest. An old system that is costly, no longer needed and should be replaced. See http://monetary.org for a plan and a bill by Rep. Kucinich to return money creation to the government like the Constitution says and bypass the banks and their interest. It limits the Fed to controlling interest rates and will pay off the debt without causing recessions.

[-] 1 points by lisamariechadwick (2) 3 years ago

To the undercover/overt law "enforcers" and unhappy individuals that are so terrified of this movement as to attempt to clog the comments with unabashed nervousness of change that it reeks "yellow belly" stench....I will continue,as other Occupiers, with creating the change necessary for a truly egalitarian world; where resources are protected, nurtured and shared with every living individual on this planet. Creating a world filled with individuals no longer bound to the false notion that a piece of paper with a politician's face on it is an actually resource (unless you count it a great camp fire starter, wall paper or building insulation). I do this for you, those who are scared of the great and growing movement, your children, family, friends and all others; And I pray that you join the Occupy Movement here and worldwide for your children, parents, extended family, friends and strangers....the same strangers who are a part of this movemnment for you!

Cheers xoxo,

Lisa Marie Chadwick

[-] 1 points by arndtmf (0) 3 years ago

Hi,

I respect your commitment to nonviolence, but that doesn't mean you can't show a bit of passion. The tea baggers were long on passion (or rage) and short on brains. Here's a guy who's passionate and intelligent, and his remarks about the "odious machine" are in respect to free speech, which is being abridged all across this country:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcx9BJRadfw

The "odious machine" also sums up Wall Street bankers and all of the other corporate interests whom most politicians place above individuals.

[-] 1 points by foundingbaby (15) 3 years ago

Jail sucks, I know.

  1. The quieter you are, the more cooperative you are, the quicker you will get out. This is not a cop-out. There are no rules but theirs.

  2. Do expect medical attention unless you are bleeding.

  3. You will not be released tonight, but sometime the following day (if you not being a jerk).

  4. You will be lucky to get a bolonge sandwich for food.

  5. You should have planned for being arrested.

  6. Hang in there, you will come out stronger than you went in if you don't fall into hate -- which is part of their controlling you, to make you get pissed off and make a mistake.

  7. You should have planned for being arrested.

Good luck.

[-] 1 points by Garybryant2 (42) 3 years ago

Sounds like political prisoners to me.

It seems to vindicate everything the movement accuses people of, doesn't it?

Note to the 1%: As long as they are imprisoned without charges and without rights, the movement will grow exponentially.

I would seriously consider releasing them, if I were you.

[-] 2 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

I'm sorry but they were given their rights, they have the right to remain silent ( we wish they would), they have the right to an Attorney, if you cannot afford one ( which we could plainly see) one will be appointed for you. Anything you say will be held against you in a court of law. As for the charges, resisting arrest, failure to follow a lawful order, hindering an investigation( lieing about your name). All felonies. Say by by.

[-] 1 points by scvblwxq (155) 3 years ago

More press, more publicity = bigger demonstrations.

[-] 1 points by itsbeentriedandfailed (29) 3 years ago

You say you want a revoulution, well you know, we all want to change the world.

[-] 1 points by pieman (23) from New York, NY 3 years ago

those bastards will pay

[-] 1 points by SuzannahTroy (31) 3 years ago

Peaceful protest hope you join us at St. Vincent’s at 1PM for a half hour die-in tomorrow W. Village. If you can’t please sign the petition impeach Bloomberg http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/impeachbloomberg

http://mayorbloombergkingofnewyork.blogspot.com/2011/11/mayor-bloomberg-die-in-in-front-of-st.html

[-] 1 points by quercus (93) 3 years ago

the great memory/ consciouness' ,is that/those expierence(s);whereby, our life/self is changed.

there is no going back.

[-] 1 points by tacamojoe (18) 3 years ago

The absolute brutality and terror being inflicted upon America's own peaceful citizens without blame nor charge is telling of an oppressive government...a government as tyrannical as Syria, Iran, or fascist regimes of WWII. We no longer are a free people...we have complacently allowed banksters and corrupted representitives, elected by the oppressed, based on campaign lies, to enslave and commit treasonous acts upon it's own constitutional and lawful rules of governing it's people. We are enslaved by our own ignorance and gullible foolishness. Now patriotic and noble citizens are paying the price for our own shameful betrayal of the brothers and sisters fighting for our freedoms and being held without cause due to their complete and utter convictions to uphold our duties as American civil duty...Our land is filled with the writhing evil we have bred and enabled. Woe to the monstrosity that claims to represent our people and claims to serve and protect us! LIARS and THIEVES RULE US AND OUR GREAT NATION. RISE UP AMERICA...AWAKE AND FIGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM AGAIN...FOR THE BLOOD AND HONOR OF THOSE TRUE PATRIOTS WHO HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED FOR THOSE FALSELY AND UNLAWFULLY JAILED FOR OUR CAUSE...RISE UP...AND RESIST FOR JUSTICE...FOR HONOR...FOR TRUTH...FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF OUR NATION!

[-] 0 points by the65percent (13) 3 years ago

Dang, Taca. That's some vitriol. You need to get out of the city. Get some sleep.

[-] 1 points by Skyeskye1 (49) 3 years ago

I am sorry for such bad conditions and treatment, but from the bottom of My heart I thank you for your sacrifice! Me and my family appreciate the change you're trying to create for this country. I pray that More and more people wake up or at least self educate. God bless you all.

[-] 1 points by Cole56 (-1) 3 years ago

City Hall is still surrounded by hundreds of tents in Occupy LA. We send you moral support and good cheer. For the first time in decades, hope is returning to the streets of America. We are discussing the issues that concern us and taking matters into our own hands. We need no one's permission. We reject all authority that cannot justify itself. We spurn obedience to a system that impoverishes the 99% at home and murders hundreds of thousands of civilians abroad.

Together, with determination and dedication to non-violence, by persisting in the face of the brutality of the corrupt and infinitely pernicious corporate state, we will topple the scoundrels who have stolen from us all. We will replace an unforgivable Congress that rewarded Wall Street campaign contributors with trillions of dollars for robbing and defrauding tens of millions of citizens. Criminal bankers who should be in prison are paying themselves huge bonuses with taxpayer money while our children don't have food to eat or roofs over their heads. People are dying in the streets every day to satisfy their greed. It is a matter of life or death for millions of our children. We cannot permit them to destroy the earth and our future.

Do not yield, brother and sisters. Do not yield and we will all prevail beyond our wildest dreams. We will create a new world of economic and environmental justice for all.

[-] 1 points by Banduras7317 (-16) 3 years ago

To those sitting in the NYC jail... even in the small towns of the CA Sierra Nevada's we watch and send our best thoughts and admiration for your work. Thank you for telling us what is happening to you. We all need to know and I do mean NEED as in food, water, safety. Thank you, Thank you... namaste, shalom, aloha.

[-] 1 points by sameeker (3) from Ludlow, IL 3 years ago

There are so many trite laws in this country that anyone can be locked up for any reason. I think that it is time to storm the Bastille and liberate the people who don't deserve to be locked up. JP Morgan is getting what it paid for with their 4.2 million dollar "donation" to the NYPD.

[-] 2 points by plainscott (79) from Bowling Green, KY 3 years ago

You're not kidding. I live in a small sothern Kentucky city, and ride my bike all over town. I get honked at, yelled at, and exhaust spewed at me...guess they don't like my green ways, or my effort to DENY extra dollars to international oil companies. I also don't like to wait for red lights at intersections; I just turn right, pedal a few hundred feet down that street, do a U-turn, and double back to the first road I was on. How long do you imagine before I get stopped by the cops, pushed off my bicycle, pepper sprayed, beaten with a baton, and dragged off to prison? For teeny little violations on a bicycle, for pete's sake!

[-] -1 points by BreadLandPeace (359) 3 years ago

Is that true?! Wow.

[-] 1 points by tazvet (-1) 3 years ago

as a 23 mil vet, i will back the people and not the biggest gang in america, the cops. payback is hell

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[-] 1 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

Is it safe to say that we can now consider the NYPD enemy combatants? Their disregard for constitutional rights and article 3 of the Geneva convention is pretty clear now.

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[-] 1 points by LoveIsAll (24) 3 years ago

occupy nypd and courts

[-] -1 points by MachineShopHippie (216) from Louisville, KY 3 years ago

Am I the only one that thinks it's a little bit funny that the police didn't like a bunch of Occupiers in Zucotti Park, so now they have a bunch of Occupiers in their lap? Way to relocate the problem into your own house, guys...

Now we have police occupying the park, and OWS occupying the police station.

It would be hilarious if it weren't for the terror of living in a police state where mercenaries funded by giant corporations uphold property rights above human rights, in the name of protecting and serving the citizens... That part still sucks.

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[-] 1 points by sufinaga (513) 3 years ago

we who believe in freedom cannot rest until it comes. (sweet honey in the rock)

[-] 0 points by jph (2652) 3 years ago

great music group!

[-] -1 points by sufinaga (513) 3 years ago

absolutely!!

[-] 1 points by pigeonlady (235) from Brooklyn, NY 3 years ago

Pseudocop, just not showers in the park, all the rest, reasonably so. Cops don't like to clean holding cells so I suspect it's mighty filthy in there.

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[-] 0 points by i8jomomma (80) 3 years ago

if you are imprisoned then take over the jails and prisons like they did with Attica back in the day then don't stop until you tear down the walls and hit the streets again.........don't be afraid of the pigs or anyone else........their is more of us then there is of them........don't let them forget it.........occupy anywhere and everywhere...........at anytime

[-] 0 points by nyhc4405 (1) 3 years ago

What the NYPD fails to realize is that they are part of the 99%... When Bloomberg was threatening layoffs, every officer was on the edge. Now that Bloomberg is protecting his money, and has authorized overtime on wall street, the NYPD is taking advantage of that...just your normal greed!

[-] 0 points by GypsyKing (8719) 3 years ago

Hang Strong - where the hell is the ACLU?

[-] 0 points by arndtmf (0) 3 years ago

I have to laugh when some people post at this site trying to diminish OWS. If OWS is as inconsequential as you say it is, why are you wasting your time posting here? If there's nothing to OWS, why don't you spend your time fishing,doing the crossword, or playing with yourself, as you're probably doing as you read this.

[-] 0 points by mor (2) 3 years ago

I support OWS and I am Christian. There are verses after verses in the bible, if the Christian right would read it once in a while, that say that what WS has done is wrong and they will pay. In Matthew 18:23-35, Jesus talked about this very thing. WE forgave the banks their debts but they do not forgive way smaller debts owed to them by mortgage holders. The verses in those passages speak to it.

[-] 0 points by wecpro (0) from Ridgefield Park, NJ 3 years ago

Everyone is talking about the evil that we all know, but there is an evil that you don't know. Go to: www.wecpro.wordpress.com

[-] 0 points by wecpro (0) from Ridgefield Park, NJ 3 years ago

Everyone is talking about the evil that we all know, but there is an evil that you don't know. Go to: www.wecpro.wordpress.com

[-] 0 points by saged (33) 3 years ago

anyone ever see the movie Class ? rob lowe and andrew mcCarthy do great work and its Cliff Robertson at his best

[-] 0 points by GarnetMoon (424) 3 years ago

I learned today that this is not the official site...

[-] 0 points by Kevin77 (16) from Groton, CT 3 years ago

What the protesters should do is teach the World,and the State of New York a lesson that will never be forgotten. I think if the 99% can shut down the Macy's Thanks Giving Day Parade it would show the rest of the World how strong you really are. Trust me everybody will really start believing,and taking things seriously this time around.

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[-] 0 points by journey4word (214) 3 years ago

lol, no water just bread huh? yea you have a wild imagination

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[-] 0 points by Journalisterf (0) 3 years ago

URGENT URGENT URGENT

I am a journalist working for Radio France in Paris. I would like to report today's meeting. Is there anyone which I could phone to in a few hours, especially in charge of the library? This are my numbers : mob : 00 33 6 84 43 03 45 off. : 00 33 1 56 40 56 72 Xavier Martinet, journalist, France Culture

[-] 0 points by flashcards (39) 3 years ago

I think that's 011 33 6 84 43 03 45 cell and 011 33 1 56 40 56 72 Office,

when you are dialing from the USA.. 00 only good for international calls to France from outside the USA.

[-] 0 points by lisamarie2infinity (14) 3 years ago

To the undercover/overt law "enforcers" and unhappy individuals that are so terrified of this movement as to attempt to clog the comments with unabashed nervousness of change that it reeks "yellow belly" stench....I will continue,as other Occupiers, with creating the change necessary for a truly egalitarian world; where resources are protected, nurtured and shared with every living individual on this planet. Creating a world filled with individuals no longer bound to the false notion that a piece of paper with a politician's face on it is an actually resource (unless you count it a great camp fire starter, wall paper or building insulation). I do this for you, those who are scared of the great and growing movement, your children, family, friends and all others; And I pray that you join the Occupy Movement here and worldwide for your children, parents, extended family, friends and strangers....the same strangers who are a part of this movement for you!

Cheers xoxo,

Lisa Marie Chadwick

[-] 0 points by MzCitizen2 (-1) 3 years ago

Can we get the Red Cross to check on these prisoners?

I have heard that folks were injured and left in jail without medical treatment? If this is so, this would even be a violation of International Law under the Geneva Convention! After all, Mr. Bloomberg has treated OWS as if they are war combatants!

Why is ANYONE still being held?? This is ridiculous!

Is it possible that we could send food to them??

If not the Red Cross, what about Amnesty International?

Please update us as to their status! Thank you!

[-] 0 points by batlady (0) 3 years ago

The acts of police people are horrifying. They are simply servants to the 1%.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKFcUb9gr1s

symbolic to the situation?

[-] -1 points by Scout (729) 3 years ago

paid for by $4 million " donated " to the police courtesy of BANKSTERS JP Morgan

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[-] 0 points by thisisthetruth (-12) 3 years ago

stop fooling yourselves, the only thing that the propaganda nuts are doing on this site are compromising the futures of the people that have put themselves of in position of being arrested by following the inaccurate, overblown (thousands in zucottti park for instance) bullshit! stop it! you are getting people trouble for now reason. you want change then stop delivering your message like the sam of bullshit!

[-] 0 points by AnarchoRevolutionary (-14) 3 years ago

This is why I shall not rest until ever prison is repurposed or rubble. IT is good that our awareness is expanding to the evil that is perpetrated under the "guise" of protection by the criminal JUST-ICK system.

[-] -1 points by thisisthetruth (-12) 3 years ago

don't be an idiot, the OWS movement is outmanned and outgunneed, and there will be no prisons in rubble etc. that is a fantasy. GAME OVER!

[-] -1 points by AnarchoRevolutionary (-14) 3 years ago

Um, welcome here dreamstealer.

[-] 0 points by cristinasupes (145) 3 years ago

Did you get your Miranda rights read to you? How long can someone be held in prison without a charge in NY State?

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72 hrs

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[-] -1 points by raines (699) 3 years ago

How about loitering?

[-] -1 points by AuditElmerFudd (259) 3 years ago

"Imprisoned"....LOL.

You haven't been sentenced to prison, you're being held in a cell.

[-] -1 points by k962 (-1) 3 years ago

Take your socialism and Take a hike!

[-] 1 points by scvblwxq (155) 3 years ago

If you don't like socialism don't by made in China products. China by their constitution is a socialist state run by their Communist Party.

The sweatshops are the policy of the US corporations that moved their manufacturing to China.

[-] -1 points by Curancile (-1) 3 years ago

You know what, I spent a long time writing a beautiful piece on why you all should be occupying the federal reserve and not its member institutions. But, I see by the rules of this forum that you guys are tired of all that 'nonsense'. Makes complete sense, founding fathers, Jackson, Lincoln, Polk, McKinley, JFK and more have all agreed the problem is with the central bank. You guys are right though, those founding fathers and past presidents were all idiots and they'd be considered spammers too and flamers of your actions.

The bottom line? You guys are attacking the soldiers while the top brass sits cozey laughing at you all. You guys show up at the federal reserve branches and start occupying their headquarters? How mamma, you guys will probably have the military called in on you guys and if not, many many brigades of swat for sure.

But you guys are right, those past presidents and founders were just all LAWLERS (what the hell is that idiocy by the way? LAWL? Like what Lulz? get a life!)

I feel competent now, having seen these forum rules in saying, enjoy the excrement, enjoy the the filth and dregs of society while I smile at those peaceful tea partiers and paul backers that... oddly enough, never had the problems y'all are seeming to have just trying to get along with one another.

Paul 2012 THERE, now, ban me globally (ooo so fkn scary LMFAO)

[-] -1 points by Stayoffmystreetglock (-3) 3 years ago

What's the matter you don't want your drones to hear the truth?

[-] -1 points by soudan42 (-3) from Tower, MN 3 years ago

Is it just me, or does it smell a lot like troll in a lot of places on this comment board?

[-] -2 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 3 years ago

Its true. There is a troll taking advantage of the point system.ows needs to get rid of the point system before all comments in support of ows are deleted.

[-] 3 points by rocknewtown (18) from New York, NY 3 years ago

I guess that would mean that most people out there disagree with OWS and rejects like you? Imbecile.

[-] -1 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 3 years ago

you see. my comment has been deleted to -6 in a matter of minutes

[-] -1 points by richardweeks (-7) 3 years ago

Obama ordered the dissolution of all "Occupy" sites across the country in a coordinated action. He realized the movement was driving his poll numbers into the the gutter. Photos of OWS protesters were becoming the best campaign ads for Conservatism than anything anyone could dream up.

[-] -1 points by journey4word (214) 3 years ago

no water and just bread eh?

ya might find someone who has spent a night or two in jail to help you write your posts.

just sayin' :)

peace

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[-] -2 points by thisisthetruth (-12) 3 years ago

He won't and you won't be able to make him, he's a billionaire that earned every cent he has and won all three elections that put him in office fair and square. ya got a problem with that? hope for reincarnation perhaps the new world you enter into will be different.

[-] -1 points by Anony106 (-5) 3 years ago

If I ever see that Bloomberg, I'm gonna spit on his face.

[-] -1 points by barb (835) 3 years ago

This is a good example of what we have lost, freedom of speech is not free anymore.

[-] -1 points by pepki (-13) 3 years ago

You have been charged with the crime of noticing the emperor has no clothes and making a loud announcement thereof.

[-] -1 points by wendyslo (-4) 3 years ago

How did this message get out? Can you request an attorney? What are you charged with? My son is among you. What can we do?

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[-] -1 points by MarkVT (-3) 3 years ago

Try to be calm and cool. Text your friends and family and have they contact your congreeman/woman. The city is trying to terrorize you. Don't buy into it; be strong. I am sorry you're there, and I would happily be there with you. My heart bleeds for America.

[-] -2 points by leoneo (76) 3 years ago

How does a city terroize someone?

[-] -1 points by marsh11272 (-4) from Orlando, FL 3 years ago

All of these activities have caused me to read our Constitution today. You all are exercising the rights guaranteed to us by our founding fathers. Continue to assemble, continue to exercise your rights to free speech. I wish I was able to be there.

[-] -1 points by teachkat (23) 3 years ago

If you dont want to pay the piper, dont request the tune.

[-] -1 points by isupportyouall (-4) 3 years ago

Hang in there. Many of us are inspired by you. Thank you for what you are doing.

[-] -1 points by Freddy (-3) 3 years ago

a "manifesto on breaking the shackles of interest"

[-] -1 points by ropeknot (359) 3 years ago

Since we paid our taxes to have this area be created for us via our taxes, aren't we the owners? We may be a minority, so far as our movement and in ownership of this tax payer provided property, but we are still part owners of the lands we occupy! How can we be evicted from land we paid for; ( own) ; ? Is there any legal recourse towards a state entity of the government we created for ourselves that has amendments to the constitution that change or nullify the national constitution for its self protection from abuse of this area ?

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[-] -1 points by Confusedoldguy (260) 3 years ago

You are PART owners of the public land, and the public has put people in place, through elections, to set reasonale parameters on how our land will be used. You cant go to a national park and plant crops, because we have decided that's not what that land will be used for. And every city in the country has laws that forbid camping out in public places, not because of oppression by the 1%, but for reasons of public safety, hygiene, and the common good. Eviction from the camp is no more a violation of your Constitutional rights than is the prohibition to plant corn in Yellowstone. Stop sounding so silly, figure out what your real rights are, and use them to influence the system.

[-] -1 points by Sonotows (-16) 3 years ago

I doubt you pay taxes hombre. Just because you say you are a taxpayer doesn't make it true.

[-] -1 points by plainscott (79) from Bowling Green, KY 3 years ago

anytime he buys something, he pays taxes "hombre."

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[-] -2 points by Stayoffmystreetglock (-3) 3 years ago

You occupiers are not the 99%, your a fringe .02 % if your lucky. The rest of us are just watching you laughing.

[-] 1 points by scvblwxq (155) 3 years ago

With 72% of NYC agreeing with the OWS movement after only 2 months it should reach 99% shortly. Stop by an OWS event and see for yourself.

[-] -2 points by Stayoffmystreetglock (-3) 3 years ago

You will turn my country into Venezuela. You start destroying property and hurting people you will lose. You are not in charge and you never will be, the only people standing with you are the left fringe, and they are nutjobs. If you hate corps so much I demand you stop using this website, your computer, your phone, your car, the bus, in fact stop eating, because everything comes from CORPORATIONS. Complete idiots.

[-] 1 points by scvblwxq (155) 3 years ago

US corporations mostly manufacturing in communist/socialist China.

In China 80% of the assets of the top 500 corporations are controlled by gov owned corporations.

[-] -2 points by Stayoffmystreetglock (-3) 3 years ago

At least your not getting raped or shot there like in your camps, oh but then youay run into Bubba. Your movement is a joke, you are being played like pawns.

[-] -2 points by Stayoffmystreetglock (-3) 3 years ago

At least your not getting raped or shot there like in your camps, oh but then youay run into Bubba. Your movement is a joke, you are being played like pawns. Yeah blame the banks who loaned you money, not the school or gov who is charging it, get a freaking brain people.

[-] -2 points by PeaceMinister (6) from Philadelphia, PA 3 years ago

Every night that you spend in lockup, you've lost your ability to continue spreading your message on the streets. Do Not Break The Law Please.

[-] -2 points by leoneo (76) 3 years ago

So get someone who can clearly relay the message that this "Movement" is about and maybe someone will listen. To date, I still don't know what you are about other than waisting the time of everyone else who is not "On your side".

[-] -2 points by flashcards (39) 3 years ago

Lucky your still in the country. Hope you all get out soon.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/protestors-get-deported/

[-] -2 points by dotsend66 (43) 3 years ago

It is very sad, that our president is not defending our constitutional rights.Cry America, cry.

[-] -2 points by JosephCouture (45) 3 years ago

The real class war being fought here is the 99 percent fighting amongst themselves. A culture that promotes competition as its core value creates a society where individual interests are all that truly matter.

Read about the psychology of selfishness here:

www.josephcouture.com "It's About Me, Stupid"

[-] 3 points by RedJazz43 (2757) 3 years ago

If class solidarity were absolute there would be no class warfare or even class conflict. As Jay Gould said more than a century ago, " I can hire half the working class to kill the other half."

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[-] -3 points by ikonski142 (0) from Aurora, CO 3 years ago

HUELGA!!!!......................142

[-] -3 points by DM10014 (-8) 3 years ago

Threats to invade our neighborhoods, fling molotov cocktails, halt the trains that take us - the REAL 99% - to work each day, assaulting police officers, no demands/goals/policy proposals, no understanding of the underlying causes of the financial markets or the financial crisis, assaulting police officers, engaging in a course of conduct that required a 24/7 police presence for the last several months at Zuccotti park - a colossal waste of much needed taxpayer dollars . . .

I hope y'all sit there for another week.

[-] 1 points by plainscott (79) from Bowling Green, KY 3 years ago

You're waiting for a policy proposal? "If you happen to SUPPORT corporate attainment of special legislative access and special treatment in the lawmaking process, at the expense of ordinary citizens, then please lay your cards on the table and declare so now, OK?" I cut and paste that from a reply above. The proposal? END the rights of corporations to donate any more than $10 each to ANY ONE candidate, and END their right to donate more than $10 to the promotion of any pending measure. THAT'S RIGHT...TEN BUCKS! Now we're almost on a level playing field in the ballpark of political power. Want another proposal? Here it is: CHANGE the lobbyists outsize access to Senators and Representatives with this rule: for any amount of meeting time with a lawmaker granted to a special interest lobbyist, said lawmaker must make an EQUAL amount of time available to any ordinary citizen or group of citizens who desires such meeting time. If the lawmaker doesn't have time to spend equally with ordinary blokes, or with animal rights activists such as myself, then they DON'T have the time to spend with a lobbyist from Monsanto, B of A, or Exxon-Mobile. THERE are two demands/policy proposals to start you off.

[-] -3 points by london (-3) 3 years ago

You animals are scum, and we the 1% will be meeting you to counter your protest hippies!!!!

[-] 0 points by plainscott (79) from Bowling Green, KY 3 years ago

What do you plan to protest? That it cost $200 more this trip to fuel your private corporate jet for your next business meeting at the topless bar, or that the caviar price has increased by 5%?

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[+] -4 points by Danielf (-8) 3 years ago

You are costing taxpayers a significant amount of money but you do not work or contribute so what do you care.

[-] -1 points by Banduras7317 (-16) 3 years ago

Are you offering a job that will pay for housing food and maybe some utilities or medical if needed? There are many out there looking including the people who have gone to OWS. I know of a number of people myself . I am glad that I am not looking. I really never had a problem but I know I would now because of the lack of jobs... and that includes teaching which was my day job.

[-] 2 points by Raward75 (6) 3 years ago

Glad to hear your job WAS! Best place for you is in the park, or under the bridge with your fellow leaches.

[+] -4 points by Danielf (-8) 3 years ago

Why not go out and create your own opportunity. This is America. You can be anything you wantvto be. Takes hard work and dedication. Not sitting in a park ruining other person's quality of life.

[+] -4 points by bohratom (22) 3 years ago

"There is no food except for bread, no cleanliness, no hygene, no waters, no showers"

Sounds like LIberty Square, you must all feel right at home....heh

[+] -5 points by Raward75 (6) 3 years ago

Rot!!!

[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 3 years ago

@ Retard Raward : Darksider Scum !

Remember Your Mean Spiritedness ... the next time pain grips your chest .. and slowly climbs the left hand side of your neck & may your hatred spiral back to you a hundred fold !

E tenebris ...

[-] 1 points by Gileos (309) 3 years ago

The hell is that supposed to mean.

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 3 years ago

Hey Doc, that is no way to drum up business. Be like a lawyer and advertise on TV.

[+] -5 points by Sharpie933 (20) 3 years ago

You guys are being treated with kid gloves. There is no way that anyone is going to risk some preppie kids from the suburbs getting shanked in Rikers, where the non-privileged people who get arrested everyday of the week end up. You are being afforded privileges based on your race and socio-economic background. I'm sure you feel you are entitled to such treatment, but it does make you seem somewhat hypocritical.

[+] -7 points by raynbow (2) 3 years ago

Well, you broke the law. You are lucky you are not in Syria. There are no alligator clips attached to wires attached to a car battery attached to your nuts. Consider yourself lucky.

[-] 8 points by rhysharper (7) 3 years ago

Uhm, most of the arrested did not break the law. And this is not Syria, it is the US of America. A place where we can exercise our first amendment rights and raise our voices and participate in our government.

We are assured rights and freedoms by the constitution. Anyone who thinks we should settle for less than that, such as yourself, does not deserve them. It is not enough to say "Well, thank God we're not in Syria." And to say such a thing demeans and degrades the many soldiers who are protecting our country and who have laid down their lives. They have sacrificed so much for our freedoms, and to settle for less is a slap in the face to those who have died protecting them.

Think about it.

[-] 2 points by Slammersworld (210) 3 years ago

Didn't break the law? or just don't care about the law? I think it's probably the later....walking/marching in the streets and blocking traffic, or causing disturbances that directly effect the lives of others is breaking the law. Equal protection under law means that the temper tantrum you call OWS ends when it enters my personal space, if it doesn't you are disturbing my peace, and breaking the law...

You don't get to selfishly choose your "rights" in spite of the rights of others...(those who would like to patronize the park, drivers on the street, businesses and merchants in the areas you "protest". You don't have the right to effect their lives negatively.

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[-] 1 points by raynbow (2) 3 years ago

Well i do think they broke the law. And the law is what separates us as Americans from "them"..those that do not respect the rule of law. Respect for the law is what has made this country great. And it is great..relatively speaking. Protesting is legal here. You can say whatever you want. You are free to speak your mind. That is not true everywhere. that is one of the key fundamental things that troops are fighting for.

[-] 0 points by Gileos (309) 3 years ago

They are outside the law as soon as they camped in the park or blocked traffic. You were saying?

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[-] 5 points by zygarch (83) 3 years ago

So now we've set the bar at Syria? Confidence in America, not much?

[-] 1 points by raynbow (2) 3 years ago

No, the bar is higher. Just pointing out that we are extremely fortunate to live in this country where people really believe in the rule of law. And they do. People can protest and say whatever they want and you do not get locked up and tortured. And people listen. It's rare in the world. Appreciate it.

[-] 0 points by Gileos (309) 3 years ago

You missed his point.

[-] 1 points by risingstar (3) 3 years ago

Or in Iraq. The US military and its mercenaries will attach wires "to your nuts" when you try to free your country. These same invaders then come back to the US and police protest.

If killing Arab babies in an oil war is the only way to be "lucky" in this country, then I'll take my chances with Occupying Wall Street. Thanks.

[-] 1 points by Everyonegetsatrophy (7) 3 years ago

lolwut

[-] 0 points by raynbow (2) 3 years ago

you miss the point. or don't care to consider. it's a massive gift to american's that they have the right to protest...and it's under appreciated.

[-] 0 points by Gileos (309) 3 years ago

Take your ass over there then.

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[-] -1 points by meep (233) 3 years ago

Upvote raynbow if you love Syria's approach to justice and hate the founder fathers and the Bill of Rights!

[-] 0 points by raynbow (2) 3 years ago

i definitely don't like Syria's approach. And I respect and appreciate the bill of rights. I just think that some perspective should be recognized and appreciated. Most of the world's 99% would do practically anything for the opportunities we have here. Including the protesters. The ability to actually protest and not be beaten, tortured and thrown in jail is something we should all appreciate.

[-] -2 points by ediblescape (235) 3 years ago

OWS is Transition Committee for US.

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[-] 0 points by powertothepeople (1264) 3 years ago

Stop posting the same bullshit all over the place.

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[+] -9 points by USCitizenVoter (720) 3 years ago

Bull Crap --From Those Inside Of Central Booking-- Now for the first time I am questioning the integrity of this web site. I'm sorry but I'm having a difficult time believing this post. The cops know that they are being watched so I think you are being tricked. Please prove this to all of the members of this site since you posted it.

[-] 2 points by the4thofjuly (32) 3 years ago

get a life

[-] 0 points by agnosticnixie (17) from Laval, QC 3 years ago

We have, in fact, had people who sneaked out SMS from police vans and prison.

[+] -10 points by USCitizenVoter (720) 3 years ago

There is no food except for bread, no cleanliness, no hygene, no waters, no showers. There are non-occupiers who are suffering here as well. " I don't beleive you anymore". This web site is a scam

[-] 4 points by iSTORM (0) 3 years ago

You obviously have not been to jail in NYC... it is completely filthy, rarely ever cleaned. No one is allowed to shower or bathe. The open-air toilets are not private (no housing at all) are almost NEVER usable 'cuz they're disgusting, often encrusted with new & old feces. The temperature is never tolerable... it's heat is "blasting hot" or it's "freezing cold". Airborne & surface germs are rampant as there are some prisoners who are homeless or sick in the head. Fights break out all the time; people are "picked on" if they appear to be vulnerable. Once a day (twice if you're lucky) you get a dixie cup of (kool aid style/sugary) drink OR a cafeteria sized milk + one sandwich (two pieces of bread and one slice of bologna style meat). That's it!!! It sucks worse than anything I've ever experienced. It takes more than two showers to get the stank off your body once you are outta there.

[-] 3 points by bugbuster (103) from Yoncalla, OR 3 years ago

I don't think so. One time a relative of mine got arrested for drunk and disorderly conduct. They put him in the "fish bowl," where they keep arrested people for up to 24 hours until they are processed in. It was much as described here. This was not in NYC. Don't know what if any time limit there is on that kind of thing in NYC.

[+] -11 points by YuckFouHippies (189) 3 years ago

Hahaha. Freedom isn't free. I hope they leave you all there a few days, see if your movement is really worth it. Say hi to Bubba, the "non-occupier"

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[-] -1 points by Jester (30) 3 years ago

First, YukFu, there is no freedom. It's OK if you don't understand it. I hope you learn it before it's too late. Now go off and TROLL or whatever it is you do in your spare time. Newsflash You do good things, good things happen. You do bad things, Bad things happen.

[-] -2 points by YuckFouHippies (189) 3 years ago

Was that some kind of poorly thought out threat? Silly Hippy, threats are for men.

[-] 2 points by iSTORM (0) 3 years ago

You don't even have the balls to come down & discuss what's on your mind "in-person".... you sit behind your computer & make all of these ballsy comments. I'm an occupier, but I'm no hippy. I work security at some of NYC's bars/clubs. Come look for me at the demonstrations -- I'd love to see what kind of man you are, YukFu.

[-] -1 points by YuckFouHippies (189) 3 years ago

A working man, you will see lots of us tomorrow. Protesting protestors is counter intuitive, so yeah I'll keep it online

[+] -12 points by onepercentMI (-9) 3 years ago

We all hope you all rot in jail.

[-] 1 points by bugbuster (103) from Yoncalla, OR 3 years ago

Another Internet crank. They all come out of the woodwork when something interesting is going on.

[-] -1 points by Banduras7317 (-16) 3 years ago

All? Not one of the richest men on the planet.

[-] -2 points by sdcheung (76) 3 years ago

Go fuck yourself..capitalist pig.

[+] -15 points by Capitalist111 (59) 3 years ago

Oh my god!!! This is rich!! What a bunch of freaking Drama Queens!!! LMAO!!! You people are freaking pathetic if not hilarious!!! Those non occupiers you talked about are called CRIMINALS HAHAHA!!! Urgent medical needs, what, did you scrape yourself from being hauled off to jail!!!

OMG!!! What a bunch of wussies!!! You call yourself men!!! Give me a break you are nothing more than whining little children!!

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[-] -2 points by Jester (30) 3 years ago

Yeah! You go Girl! What courage this takes. Coward!

[-] -3 points by the4thofjuly (32) 3 years ago

hey i heard there's a sale at the gap- you gonna go? fucktard

[+] -18 points by FuckYouDirtyHippies (-7) 3 years ago

You wanna know why your movement failed?

The release of the new modern warfare game and if you think it has just slowed, wait till the new Star Wars game comes out (awesomeness, thank you capitalism) then you will really see your numbers drop for two reasons.

1. It's getting fucking cold outside.

2. People have something better to do now.

I suggest getting a XBOX, PS3 or a good computer for Star Wars: The Old Republic and keep yourself busy through the winter if you really want to have a lasting effect come back in the spring when you don't need tents.

[-] 4 points by plainscott (79) from Bowling Green, KY 3 years ago

I will stipulate to the point that warmer weather would be a big help to OWS in the future, and maybe even that the campout component of this movement has run its course. But let me make this clear distinction: I'm going to speculate that most OWS participants, and supporters like myself, are not trying to kill capitalism. We want to put a STOP to corporate PURCHASE of government special treatment at the expense of ordinary citizens. Is there any part of that you do NOT understand? Raise a hand if you do NOT understand this distinction, and I'll try to explain more slowly. And if you happen to SUPPORT corporate attainment of special legislative access and special treatment in the lawmaking process, at the expense of ordinary citizens, then please lay your cards on the table and declare so now, OK?

[-] 2 points by Confusedoldguy (260) 3 years ago

So the "Destroy Captialism" banner at the Oakland OWS march was just a joke? I'm a "confused old guy" because this leaderless movement can't seem to get it's message straight. "we arent against capitalism, despite what our banners say." "We aren't communists, so ignore the obvious use of communist-era graphics on our official posters." Jeez, you guys are hard to understand.

[-] 1 points by plainscott (79) from Bowling Green, KY 3 years ago

Mr. Confused, even someone as trusting as myself does not take the meaning of every banner at a rally literally. Notice I said "I speculate," and used the word "most." I also spoke for myself, in stating what I want to see stopped. On October 15, we had a tiny, 2-person demonstration here in Bowling Green, KY. One of the ladies' signs read: "eat the rich." I'm sure she did not mean it literally. Finally, the "you guys" mentality is outdated garbage left over from the red state/blue state two-sided simpleton partison bickering. I wonder if you'll agree that the reality in the world around us is quite a bit more complicated than that...anything is hard to understand until it is studied. Also still awaiting a response about "if you happen to SUPPORT corporate attainment of special legislative access and special treatment in the lawmaking process, at the expense of ordinary citizens, then please lay your cards on the table and declare so now, OK?" I await comment on that issue.

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[-] 1 points by Muaddib (6) from Nashua, NH 3 years ago

then why are you not protesting K street? why wall st? because adbusters told you to?

[-] 1 points by plainscott (79) from Bowling Green, KY 3 years ago

1) I have received no instructions from adbusters, or anyone else for that matter, and 2) we SHOULD be protesting K street. Absolutely...

[-] 0 points by jayp74 (195) 3 years ago

Then go there already!

[-] 1 points by plainscott (79) from Bowling Green, KY 3 years ago

Have been railing against K street...for a long time. And will continue to! My motto is: "BREAK THE GRIP" (of powerful special interest on lawmakers)

[-] -1 points by DDVoltaire (0) from New York, NY 3 years ago

The movement has not failed. Your message on the other hand....