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#OccupyChristie in Trenton, NJ This Weekend

Posted 10 years ago on Jan. 18, 2014, 3:45 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt
Tags: Occupy Sandy New Jersey, Chris Christie, Abuse of Power, Trenton, New Jersey

In light of the recent disturbing disclosures concerning Governor Chris Christie's flagrant misuse of federal Sandy aid money, the collective of storm survivors and their allies who organize under the Occupy Sandy New Jersey banner are hereby calling on residents of New Jersey to join us in Trenton in Occupying outside the Capitol starting this Saturday, January 18th, at noon. We intend to maintain our camp through Chris Christie's re-inauguration festivities on Tuesday, January 21st.

In particular we invite and encourage Sandy survivors to make the trip to Trenton (we'll help you get here if you reach out: call 609-318-4271 or email OccupySandyNJ@interoccupy.net) to tell your stories to the state and national media already camped out nearby. We know that the people of New Jersey have stories to tell, to Chris Christie and to anyone willing to listen, and we plan to provide a safe space from which to do so.

Since our Sandy recovery work continues on a daily basis—indeed, some of our volunteers and organizers may not even be able to make it to Trenton due to responsibilities in the field—this will only be a four day Occupation. However, should the administration fail to quickly fix its broken response to the storm and shift its attention to the state's residents who are most in need, we will not rule out returning to Trenton again soon. Governor Christie must understand that the last people he should be bullying right now are Sandy survivors.

Read more here and get involved with Interoccupy



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[-] 8 points by Ache4Change (3340) 10 years ago

'Chris Christie’s Political Bullying Goes All the Way Back to College' -


The guy is a crook and the GOP & Corporate MSM are trying to groom him to run for President! Good - and I hope they do select him to run! Now if only we had a real 99% runner from the other side!

Never Give Give Up Exposing The Corporate Take Over! Occupy The Options! Solidarity OWS!

[-] 4 points by Ache4Change (3340) 9 years ago

Chris Christie is a corrupt piece of shit and I really can't put it any clearer than that! From your link -

'Christie keeps talking about how New Jersey just can't afford to pay retired police, teachers, firefighters, and librarians the pensions they earned, but apparently the state has plenty of money for financial managers and hedge funds, even though they're not delivering even average results.'

'New Jersey isn't getting what it pays for, and its retired public workers might end up getting much less than what they earned as a result. But that surely matters less to Chris Christie than reaping the personal gratitude—and campaign contributions—of Wall Street.'

I do wish there would be a Chris Christie - Elizabeth Warren presidential race in 2016 though and here's why - http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/30/1310675/-Why-I-went-to-Kentucky but then Liz Warren would have to pick Wall Street outsiders to her team or break our hearts. We can but dream.

Never Give Up Exposing The Corrupted And The Corrupters! Occupy The Real 99% Agenda!

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

there is more money in the system than ever before

Dr Evil in 1 million Dollars

The government is unwilling to collect it or print it

[-] 2 points by Ache4Change (3340) 9 years ago

What about Quantitative Easing? The US government isn't really deciding anything about money or taxation anyway. That's being done by the privately run Federal Reserve and their agents in Congress. The country is being run for the greed and benefit of a tiny fraction of people while the rest of us are running ever faster just to try to stand still. Modern representative democracy is a sick joke and illusion.

See - http://www.nationofchange.org/dark-money-hits-50-million-most-still-come-1409487674 and -


Never Give Up The Struggle! Occupy 99% Solidarity And Occupy Wall Street!

[-] 3 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

popular interest can take control of the fed

we are told we cannot

[-] 5 points by Ache4Change (3340) 9 years ago

The Fed is a cartel and club of Private Banks and nothing short of a 'democratic revolution' and the rediscovery of what The US Constitution says about the creation of money, will end that!

I really think that you need to watch this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfpO-WBz_mw but don't forget to come up for air while you do :)

Also see - http://www.nationofchange.org/american-bankers-association-and-quiet-war-students-1409746626

Never Give Up Searching For The Truth About Money! Occupy Real History!

[-] 2 points by flip (7101) 9 years ago

you are right that the fed is a cartel but you are off base here with "the money masters" - we need central bank that is under democratic control and fiat currency. ows needs to understand this - the gold standard and hard currency is a tool of the ruling c

[-] 3 points by Ache4Change (3340) 9 years ago

A central bank under democratic control is exactly what we need. The private cartel of private bankers that is - The Fed, really needs to be exposed and broken up, maybe under the precepts of Rico statutes - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act .

I understand your points but The Money Masters doc is still a useful insight into the financial status-quo and people do need to understand how banking and finance work and here is an insight into our plight - http://www.nationofchange.org/2014/11/10/couldnt-possibly-poor-doctor-fell-poverty/ . Never Give Up! Occupy The 99% Issues and Solidarity!

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

The Qweasing needs to end - it is just a program that sends billions down the toilet.

What we need - IS - Q I = Quantitative Improvements.

A program to put citizens of the USA to work improving our infra-structure.

Like shutting down fossil fuel power plants and replacing em with clean/green energy production centers - adding-in electricity storage and distribution nodes = Liquid Metal Batteries. So that what power/electricity is generated does not need to be used immediately or be lost/wasted - instead much of the created energy/electricity could be stored and drawn from storage ( the Liquid Metal Batteries ) as needed by the demand on the power grid.

[-] 3 points by Ache4Change (3340) 9 years ago

The privately run Federal Reserve and their many agents in Congress run 'the economy' for the benefit of Banks & fewer and fewer people. 'Queasing' and its practically 'free money is only available to a very few but you're right re. strategic public sector infrastructure projects but that would have been beneficial for The 99%, so we can't possibly have that now, can we? Here's a sad insight into how things are for The 99% - http://www.nationofchange.org/2014/11/10/couldnt-possibly-poor-doctor-fell-poverty/ Never Give Up! Occupy The 99% Agenda!

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

as money is exchanged for goods and services,

limiting the amount the 99% is given

makes them more dependent on those that can provide the means of circulation

[-] 0 points by 99nproud (2697) 9 years ago

Hope ALL are joining the Climate March this Sun.


Christie & Climate


Be counted 9/21

[-] 6 points by Ache4Change (3340) 10 years ago

'Christie is facing intense pressure from gun rights advocates, who have packed legislative hearings and suggest his potential 2016 presidential bid will end early if he signs it.

"Christie will either veto magazine restriction bill, or kiss his presidential aspirations goodbye," read a headline on the gun rights website Bearingarms.com.

"New Jersey’s absurd citizen control fetish doesn’t play well in New Hampshire, Iowa, Colorado, Minnesota, Missouri, Utah, Nevada, South Carolina, North Carolina, Arizona, or Michigan," wrote the article’s author, Bob Owens, noting key primary states. "Any candidate that doesn’t do well in these early primaries can kiss their presidential aspirations goodbye, and one of the fastest ways to sink a Republican nomination in the current political environment is to be seen as a champion of gun control."

'This is not the first time Christie has seen guns rights groups attempt to link his presidential aspirations to a New Jersey gun bill. Last year, Christie proposed banning sales of the .50-caliber rifle — one of the most powerful firearms civilians can buy. A group called Pro-Gun New Hampshire sent Christie a letter warning him that it was watching his actions on four gun control bills, including the .50-caliber ban. Two weeks later, Christie vetoed two of the bills, including the .50-caliber ban.' - from your interesting link.

Also see - http://www.nationofchange.org/christie-s-budget-choice-1400937211 and follow the money.

Never Give Up Exposing The Kochs & Their Flunkies! Occupy The 99% Issues!

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

i won't vote nor listen to a republican or democrat

the US democracy is crippled by these dominant party

and don't deserve the media attention they get

I certainly don't gave a damn about namesake's view

[-] 3 points by Ache4Change (3340) 10 years ago

'US democracy is crippled by (this) dominant party and don't deserve the media attention they get' - Very True :) & in compliment, please see -


'A narrow, five-man majority of the U.S. Supreme Court has decreed that corporations are "persons" with the right to spend unlimited sums of their shareholders' money to elect or defeat whomever they want — and to do so secretly.'

'This year, in McCutcheon v. FEC, the Court also overturned the campaign finance rules limiting individual's contributions on aggregate federal campaign contributions — thus enthroning a tiny elite as America's ruling electoral power.'

'Big Money's control of politics gives it control of public policy. Thus long-term joblessness and underemployment rage on unabated, middle-class income is plummeting, the majority is finding upward mobility roped off, labor unions are being systematically disempowered and our social safety net is being shredded.'

'Ordinary folks are awakening to the realization that the fools have seized power, and the folks are now making moves (and movements) to seize the fools by their short hairs and reclaim our dreams.'

Never Give Up Exposing The 1%! Occupy The 99% Issues! Solidarity.

[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

I am tired of fighting

[-] 2 points by Ache4Change (3340) 10 years ago

But there's so much to fight for and against -

http://www.nationofchange.org/bold-shift-americas-minimum-wage-debate-1402584902 and -


Never Give Up - But Take A Rest If Need Be! Occupy The Future! Solidarity.

[-] -1 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

Tax breaks for corps!! And he's already gotten lotsa budget savings from cutting public sector union workers.

And yet he diabolically misinforms & appeals to a middle class, bully lovin, segment of voters who vote for him and against there own interests.

But his time is gonna come

[-] 6 points by Ache4Change (3340) 10 years ago

Christie is a 1%, Pro-Corporate tool - in more ways than one but ---

'Most people know that things are screwy, that this is not the America that's supposed to be. And therein lies the good news: The USA hasn't gone crazy — its leaders have, and they can be changed.'

'In opinion polls, tea party Republicans are becoming less popular than swine flu, while solid progressives are on the rise. Such undiluted populist voices as Elizabeth Warren's and Bernie Sanders' in the Senate, Alan Grayson's in the House and Mayor Bill de Blasio's in New York City are shifting the debate from the corporate agenda to the people's.'

'Ordinary folks are awakening to the realization that the fools have seized power, and the folks are now making moves (and movements) to seize the fools by their short hairs and reclaim our dreams.' from -


Never Give Up Exposing 1% Corruption! Occupy The 99% Agenda! Solidarity.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Christie is a 1%, Pro-Corporate tool

Without a doubt a fossil fuel fool/tool - what a shit head not allowing Tesla sales.

[-] 2 points by Ache4Change (3340) 10 years ago

'Slim' is a Corporate Koch sucker and an enabler and defender of shit like this too -


Never Give Up Resisting The Monsters! Occupy The 99% Agenda! Solidarity!

[-] 5 points by Ache4Change (3340) 10 years ago

'A Walmart spokesman stated that the company believes its employees are the best sources of ideas for the company and is willing to listen to ideas of improvement.' &

'Of the 32,000 Walmart employees in Arizona, the Walmart spokesman did not believe any Arizona employees participated in the Paradise Valley protest.' Ha!

Corporations like Walmart love Christie because he's a thug and a gangster who will do their bidding for the price of some crumbs from their table. CEOs and Politicians - they are really all on the make for the duration of their limited tenures. These people are venal, shameless and without conscience because of the http://www.nationofchange.org/cancer-capitalism-1367852286 !

Never Give Up Fighting The Plutocrats And Oligarchs! Occupy The 99% Agenda! Solidarity.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Christie is a 1%, Pro-Corporate tool

{ ADD-ON } Without a doubt a fossil fuel fool/tool - what a shit head not allowing Tesla sales.

ADD-ON -> Furthermore - we have heard a report of an effigy of the pres hung in Missouri. So - where are the hung effigies of Charlie & Davie Koch and their buddy Christie?

[-] 4 points by Joemama2014 (-2) from Brooklyn, NY 10 years ago

The Center for Public Integrity has reported that US Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein and her husband, Richard Blum, are making millions of dollars from Iraq and Afghanistan contracts through his company, Tutor Perini Corporation.[ Feinstein voted for the resolution giving President George W. Bush the authority to invade Iraq.

Join operation American Spring for freedom .

Eu Banksters=Fed Reserve =Jp Morgan=Koch Repub and Soros Dem.

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

''Christie and Koch in Cahoots ? It's Time to Subpoena the 'Committee for Our Children's Future''' by Greg Palast :

''Far more insidious, more corrosive and dangerous than the Governor of New Jersey playing traffic warden is the story of Gov. Chris Christie's secret meetings with a gaggle of billionaires - and the legality of the spending by the front organization set up following these hidden hugger-muggers.

''In 2012, a tax-exempt "social welfare organization" called Committee for Our Children's Future, CCF, ran a series of TV ads telling America that Governor Christie has performed more miracles in New Jersey than Jesus did with loaves and fish. The New York Times found some old college chums who said they set up the "Children's" crusade for Christie. But the ads cost about $6 million. The Times didn't ask how Christie's buddies, not wealthy guys, found the six big ones.

''But CCF was not started in 2012. When I heard "Children's Future," my nose started twitching. I smelled Koch.''

Solidarity @ https://twitter.com/search?q=%23OccupyChristie&src=hash .

e tenebris ...

[-] 4 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Glad you pointed that out, I would have been heavily downvoted, for doing the same.

Did you catch the ties to the W. Virginia spill too?

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

The Koch connection to events in West Virginia would be rather clear to anyone after just a li'l looking :

All this is yet further proof (IF it still be needed !) of the 'Corporate Capture' of law, politics and regulation and Greg Palast's strong article goes right to the heart of that. Sadly this 'capture' is not limited to venal Reppublicons alone .... but the co-opted Democraps too share a whole hunk of blame for selling out The 99% at every turn (eg. Clinton - NAFTA and Obama - TPP), ergo ... http://www.popularresistance.org/ !!!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

That's got nothing to do with my being attacked for posting on the Koch's, but whatever.

Me thinks you should have read Palast's book on ballot bandits.

There's nothing there to support your endless nod to the duopoly bullshit.

Nor is there anything at all to support it in the Koch's latest activities.


Not surprisingly, there's not a single comment from those very same duopolists.

Unless you count the auto blocked troll comments.

They're the ones who wholeheartedly support all that.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

''The Clintonian Third Way in politics that President Obama has moved toward after abandoning his "post-ideology" naiveté brings subliminal connections between Liberal and Neoliberal views into the light of day and does so boldly. Leaning into a Market Rule that has colonized areas in which it does not belong is an incomprehensible tactic unless one acknowledges already existing dark affinities between Liberal and Neoliberal views. In its present overextended and overweening form, Market Rule is like the unruly child who is not corrected by adapting his behaviour.

''Because Liberals are linked in more ways than I have indicated to the Neoliberal social unconscious, Liberals can do no more than make a poor, stumbling defense of the majority of Americans, can make no decisive indictment of crimes and criminals - but allow the modicum of any purpose to dwindle and meander into mindboggling confusion. Too many Americans are infected and are thus so confounded on this conscious level while disastrously tied on a yet unreachable level, and yet barely enunciated level, to the perpetrators and causes of their immiseration.'' from :

You see, the problem is waaay bigger than your being ''attacked'' or your perceived and also perhaps understandable 'Koch' obsession. I laugh wearily every time you say 'Duopoly' shooz ... because what else are you gonna call the constant and only choice between 'co-opted dumb & fkn lunatic dumber' ?! 'Democracy', lol ?!! You do get that The Plutocracy owns both of your 'electoral options' right - and that this is AGAINST the best interests of The 99% and that this is exactly what OWS now rails against ?!!!

veritas vos liberabit ...

[-] -3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Did you actually read what I said?

It would appear that you didn't

صرف سوپ اوپرا پلٹن کی طرح جو اپنی جان لیا ۔

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

The forum is not about u shooz ! Your obsessions and tangents are your business and that you are now pushing a clear 'us & them' on the forum is somewhat revealing !! I did read what u said & interpreted as per my replies but do feel free to clarify your positions and btw, who is the 'us', that u are speaking for !!!

I don't translate your gobbledegook but it is not Hebrew or Hindi this time and looks Arabic and probably alludes to your ongoing 'soap opera' project. Do try to get over yourself when time and tide allows shooz and here - throw a hissy fit over this :

U'll recognize that it's from an 'Old School Conservative' - NOT a Neocon or a Neoliberal and sadly these days an 'OSC' can sound and be more 'radical & pro-99%' - than what passes for 'liberal' in USUK etc. !!

multum in parvo ...

[-] -3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Of course it isn't, but there are many who think it's all about you.

Pat Buchanan?


The project.........is all yours.

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

Greg Palast re. Chris Christie on Thom Hartmann's 'The Big Picture' on RT (20th Jan.'14) & fast forward to 31 minutes tho' the entire show is excellent really :

Yes, my link in the previous reply above was by Pat Buchanan ! ''Really'' !! Even IF you didn't read the short piece, try to keep your eyes on the prize shooz & do stop bickering with me because hard as it may be to believe for us both sometimes - we are actually both on the same side !!! - Think about that.

fallaces sunt rerum species ...

[+] -4 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Quoting Buchanan?

A political propagandist?

Will you be quoting Reagan next?


just because?

Thanks for proving how little very little you know about US politics.

( no wonder the trolls cheer you on)

It was never a question of "sides".

Here, meet another Koch cohort.


Why do you have such a problem finding and understanding how these people work their puppetry and why do YOU never provide the names of those doing the same in the UK?

Am I to believe they don't exist there?

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

Perhaps unlike you, it'd appear that I'm not so wedded to partisan politics as to be blind to any pro-99% opinions from across the spectrum so tho' I wasn't ''Quoting Buchanan'', I do wholeheartedly recommend that article to any and all interested readers without any qualms - tho' of course u didn't read it as usual and btw try to ask yourself - who isn't ''a political propagandist'' who writes about political matters ?!

I don't have a good word to say about Raygun tho' I suspect many Democrat Pols do but I do often link to articles by Paul Craig Roberts, who worked in both Raygun administrations. Problem with that ?!!

I really don't know who ''Laroche'' is but u are clearly bait and switching for a reason. Is it to try to desperately prove ''how little very little you know about US politics'' OR did u mean me maybe lol ?!!!

It IS a question of sides shooz ! Pro or anti - 99% & OWS !! Outside the box and inside the loop ?!!!!

What ''problem'' & can u evidence such from my comments or forum-posts ? OR does it still just burn and bug u that I have the temerity to comment on matters in The U$A ? Am I to believe that u believe that I believe 'They' don't exist in The UK ? Of course still u'll persist but it's silly right ?

Sadly your excellent and recommended link was added as an after thought, wasn't it ?

However I do thank u for posting that item. Had u been less abrasive, boorish, cantankerous, fractious, querulous or obtuse, u would have lead with your 'MotherJones' link but I'll end here by quoting from it :

  • ''By pulling off the unthinkable, DeVos and his allies have emboldened conservatives around the country to go on the offensive. Following the passage of right-to-work, DeVos has opened his playbook to lawmakers, activists, and donors nationwide who are interested in following Michigan's lead. "As is often the case in politics generally, timing is critical," DeVos told me. "So the lesson to others is: Be prepared. Invest in the infrastructure necessary to leverage an opportunity when it presents itself." He says other conservatives "are hoping for an opportunity to bring freedom-to-work to their home states" and "have voiced their appreciation for the example Michigan provided." As he told an audience at the annual conference of the conservative State Policy Network in September, "If we can do it in Michigan, you can do it anywhere." from : http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/01/devos-michigan-labor-politics-gop .

Sadly, u seemed more determined to bicker with me than to try to quote or push your very good link - or perhaps to grasp that it takes many huskies to drag a sledge and that there can be more ways than one to get to the destination. But we'll 'mush' along together some more shall we ?

So more in keeping with this OP news-thread, I further append and recommend :

''If Occupy Wall Street protesters get arrested for blocking a bridge to make a larger point, then every member of New Jersey Governor Chris Christie’s administration should receive at least the same treatment, if not face greater charges.''

cuique suum ...

[-] -3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago


It wasn't an after thought at all.

But to be quoting a bigot like Buchanan.

Was that a thought at all?

Or a Freudian slip?

You have yet to show ANY understanding of the SPN.

It's YOU bickering, by pretending that you do.

When I posted from Occupy on Christy? You didn't say a word.

You know damn well, what my issue with you is.

It has EVERYTHING to do with your community and the lack of attention you give it.

While quoting from a guy from the Reagan administration.

I'm not about to read a thing that ass has to say.

Propaganda, pure and simple, and YOU bought it.

You don't know the US and you won't tell about the UK.

Loquacious, you may be. That's not the same as being correct.

Trolle, naprawdę cię lubię, choć.

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

Thanx for confirming the ''hissy fit'' and as u didn't read the short item from Pat Buchanan, then u really have nothing but your preconceptions and prejudices to come to any judgement with - as u are clearly more a dyed-in-the-wool partisan Dem than an open minded pro-99% and OWS activist on this forum.

When u posted ''about Christie (I) didn't say a word'' huh ? But I said it here to an extent right ? And so what happens when u & I attempt discourse ? It gets fractious pdq, right ? Do u need me to comment on your threads to validate them ? Have u internalised your role here & gotten all proprietorial about this forum ? Do the rest of us post here on your sufferance ?

Is anyone who doesn't drink The Dem Koolaid or agree with u, GF, ZD or 'WendySquid/JiffySmith' here a ''Trolle'' ? Are u slowly turning into an idiot as a result of being here or did u arrive here that way ? Are u capable of dispassionate and impartial 'modding' or is it all too much for u ? IF it's all such a chore - why do u do it ? Is this yet another thread u are going to just moan & bitch on ? Finally, from a clearer USUK perspective, see if u can bring yourself to engage with :

''Why do we tolerate a politics that offers no effective choice ? That operates largely at the behest of millionaire funders, corporate power and a bullying media ? Why, in an age in which people are no longer tortured and executed for criticising those in power, have we failed to create viable alternatives ?

''In the US Congress this year, for the first time a majority of members are millionaires. As the representatives become richer, the laws they pass ensure that they exercise ever less power over the rich and ever more power over the poor. Yet, as the Center for Responsive Politics notes, "there's been no change in our appetite to elect affluent politicians to represent our concerns in Washington".

''We appear to possess an almost limitless ability to sit back and watch as political life is seized by plutocrats; as the biosphere is trashed; as public services are killed or given to corporations; as workers are dragooned into zero-hours contracts. Though there are a few wonderful exceptions, on the whole protest is muted and alternatives are shrugged away without examination. How did we acquire this superhuman passivity ?''

veritas vos liberabit ...


[-] -3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

As usual.

The "hissy fit" is all yours.

You know shadz, I used to have a lot more respect for you.

The kool aid term has to be the lowest I've seen you go so far.

You STILL refuse to talk about your community, while pretending you know all about mine.

You don't seem to know much about either community....

You just enjoy being loquacious?

The worst of it?

You don't even give us the good news.


Have fun with your loquacious "hissy fit".

Na trolls a dhéanamh i ndáiríre leanann tú timpeall.

[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

I have been authoritatively advised that u think that: ''a troll is someone who NEVER talks about his own community, while spending his days picking at someone else's.'' .. which IF true, really speaks volumes and confirms what I have already put to u that u clearly resent me posting here and I'm left to wonder if u are one of those over-sensitive, li'l parochial nationalists that both our of countries are now infected with.

Further, a very simple review of this thread will reveal that : ''As usual. The "hissy fit" is all yours.'' Trust me on that if nothing else. Excellent link tho', from which I extract, append & recommend the following :

It was easily worth the squabble and the li'l ''hissy fit'' - to be able to post those, so thanx but I still don't appreciate the cryptic troll / soap opera references & I'm no more a 'troll' than u are, I would suggest, lol.

Re. ''The kool aid term has to be the lowest I've seen you go so far'' - REALLY ?! I realse that we're from different countries and cultures shooz but I hadn't realised that we're also from different planets too, lol !!

e tenebris, lux ...




[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

Your inelegant turn of phrase is self-defeating and even IF specifically designed to be offensive it doesn't advance your p-o-v one iota. You have a talent for language so it serves u poorly to resort to the gutter !!

Your p-o-v may have some substance but The Dems keep selling out The 99% ZD and this should be obvious to all here. There is also btw .. room for a plethora of tactics and strategies & NONE of these need to be ''calls for whole sale blood shed'', even for someone 'more conservative than the avg.liberal'.

Sen.Bernie Sanders in your Vermont, Kshama Sawant in Seattle and OWS show what is possible and sow seeds for the future. You do know what 'they' say about doing the same thing again and again and yet expecting different results, right ?! You get who pays for The Dem Party & why, right ?!! Sheeesh !!!

fiat lux ...


[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

Double Sheeesh !!! You should be working inside The Dems trying to leverage and pull them 'Left' rather than push OWS 'Right' ffs !! Like I had to say to shooz just above, ''stop bickering with me because hard as it may be to believe for us both sometimes - we are actually both on the same side'' !!! In a rush now ZenDude & more 'Zen' and less 'Dog' please :-) & btw of course Sanders ''caucuses with Dems'' - whoTF else would he do that with ? Bet he misses Dennis Kucinich & Cynthia McKinney tho' & also consider :

''In the last year of his life, Martin Luther King Jr. struggled with what are best understood as existential challenges as he began to move toward an ever-more-profound and radical understanding of what would be required to deal with the nation’s domestic and international problems. The direction he was exploring, I believe, is far more relevant to the realities we now face than many have realized - or have wanted to realize.

''What stands out - as lessons for our own day and to each of us now, is his growing understanding of the importance of confronting ever-more-fundamental issues, even in the face of challenges from the press, the establishment, and his own religious constituency, to say nothing of those on the Right.

''It is well to honor the vision he offered of one day achieving a society beyond racism, but even more important to consider his own struggle and the larger trajectory of thought and action he seemed to be exploring. It is a trajectory that points to a very different role for the U.S. in the world, and one that looks to fundamental, far-reaching systemic change to honor her ideals, no matter how difficult to achieve or how long the task.''

Re.''we cannot foster meaningful change without .. entering into alliance with dems and unions'' - yes ok, however that will never come from moving 'Right' towards them but possibly just may do by pulling them 'Left', for The 99%. D'u get me ZD? Or must I lose my cool, blow my stack and let my ''accent slip'' lol ?!

per aspera ad astra ...


[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

From ''Fuk you'' to ''What's your story'' ?!!!

So, are u a solo drinker or got a li'l bi-polarity ?!!

''Water Got No Enemy'' and ''our flow can be a remedy'' ...

But cool off and clearly see ; there's more than one path really !

All your eggs in the Dem basket is just bad tactics - especially as your hallowed POTUS is all for 'fast tracking' the TPP - just like Clinton repealed Glass-Steagall and signed NAFTA and now I presume u'll be recommending Hitlary to us all !!! Because that'll be ''change we can all believe in'' !! Holy fkn moly !

ab absurdum(b) ...

[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago
[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

''The unaided needy. Selfishness run riot. A North America dotted with Third World colonies. And a blighted landscape where Others are subjugated to Owners'' - from the excellent 'truth-out' link which deserves wide readership. Shudder at the world-wide spread of this b-s and in compliment :

e tenebris - lux ...


[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

Can you really expect a reasonable discourse when you've so readily taken possession of GF's toilet-mouth ?! Are you on ''100% aggressive'', cantankerous abuse duties on this thread ?!! & - Can there be more than a TINA (There Is No Alternative) Just One Way approach to Polytricks in The USUK et al ?!!!

fiat lux ...

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Do you even have a basket?

Quoting Buchanan, shows a decided lack of eggs. So I feel no need to ask you about that.

Perhaps you're suffering from trollitis? They do like to follow you around.




[-] 5 points by beautifulworld (23789) 10 years ago

Maybe not, but on Bernie's own website, a quote from Pat Buchanan:

"The Fed Panelists on The McLaughlin Group were asked to name "the most honest person of the year." Pat Buchanan said: "My favorite socialist, Bernie Sanders forced the Fed to admit that it spends $3 trillion bailing out everybody in the western world."


You are the one interested in promoting the status quo. You are the counter-revolutionary.



[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (23789) 10 years ago

I know it's very difficult to understand that the world is not black and white. So cursing at people, who see the nuances of political ideologies that you don't understand is all you have.

[-] 0 points by RadicalsUnite (94) 10 years ago

the dems are taking billions from koch companies and other related industries at the same levels as their counterparts, campaign donations overall are almost identical. whats more powerful- the energy the population uses, the drugs to dumb them and numb them, or the media to alert them to the predefined answers? good questions to consider.


[-] 1 points by RadicalsUnite (94) 10 years ago

the charts for many industries are open commons and dems and reps take money from many industries, some more than others. do you know what party takes more from whom, its three to three. advertisments are expensive so to sell ones soul to win leaves us with what?


[-] 1 points by RadicalsUnite (94) 10 years ago

even chartiy has to file corporate charters its how nation was founded and there is no changing until the history is changed. the only way that happens, through out most history, is rejection of history.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

not necessary with today's data capacity


[-] 0 points by RadicalsUnite (94) 10 years ago

hostilities towards those who wish to make a change and difference, when taken in from afar, does not make us safer. good evening.

[-] 0 points by RadicalsUnite (94) 10 years ago

excuse me this looks like advertisements run on tv filled with messaging we are just discussing before. do you mind?


[-] 1 points by RadicalsUnite (94) 10 years ago

possibilities are endless and gas engage the public if it were harmless it would still be there, correct? give the people more harmless talks and hand holding, or a walk in the trails. when does reaction show effectiveness on said change? many prongs of the same wheel perhaps? your messaging on comment before is advertising in that it mimics the political ads in the previous discussion.

very offensive


[-] 0 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

You should stop spamming and trying to troll me here 'cause you're looking even more schtupeedo than usual but you can keep shilling for Hitlary if you like - as that will focus minds as to what The 99% in the USUK and elsewhere are up against. Furthermore, for a more effusive reply to your b-s, also consider ...

Reading this whole old thread is an instructive exercise in and of itself btw,so thanx.

e tenebris, lux ...


[-] -1 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

So you advocate such a person as Hitlary Clinton and - what ?! I'm ''a wall street stooge'', huh ?!! Man, your head is now sooooo far up your arse - that talking shit has now become anatomically inevitable !!!

Read the article and especially watch the Bill Moyers Video interview in the last link and you just might learn something, u reactionary, loudmouthed, nincompoop. I made a forum-post on it but it was banned with no explanation ! Say .. you're on here morning, noon and night, right ?!! So .. are you not only mad but a mod here too these days ?! Now that would explain a lot of the weird shit going on here lately lolol.

In that case maybe you're the correct person to ask why Builder is being persecuted and his comments removed on this forum that he joined before most of us. Sure he can be cranky but hey, so are u right ?!

verum ex absurdo et fiat lux ...


[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

Go be sick somewhere else, gimp !!! Your fixation on Buchanan is .. TOTALLY a function of your having

been a Republican voter once !! You are an Ex-Repugnant Voter ; shooz is an 'Ex-Libertarian' ; GF is an

Ex-Mormon & you're all working through your issues - but in the meantime trying to steer this forum and

then getting very hot and bothered when you encounter resistance to all your shilling and gate-keeping !

Fuk u, you toilet-mouthed mthrfkng shill !!!

All my links above speak for themselves !!

But who do you actually speak for here ?!

temet nosce ...



[-] 0 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

Aren't you the 'Ex-Libertarian' ?!!! So, how about you tell me ?!! Did you once vote 'Republicon' like ZD ?!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago



[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

Reject dishonest partisan attacks!

Fight against state leaders who would hurt decent hard working families!!


Vescere bracis meis,

Vacca foeda!

[-] 1 points by misconceptions (11) 10 years ago

christie is on drugs and so is 75% of the country

[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

Good drugs too I bet. He's got money.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

Who is ''partisan'' here ?!!! Who is actually being ''dishonest'' ?!!

I did not open your links and found your latin vaguely offensive !

But I was happy to reply to two boxes from u with one reply, lol.

temet nosce ...

[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

Do you have anything to say about the xorrupt Bully Christie?

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

He is corrupt and a bully !!! Are you my examiner or inquisitor ?!! LOL !

He's also a Right-wing, Neoliberal, Neocon, Republicon Koch Sucker !

I think that you'd better look at the Greg Palast item I linked too before :

After all, it is where you came in and what you replied to here ! Hmmm.

multum in parvo ...

[-] -1 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

Just pointing out what seemed to be a stray offtopic.

didn't mean nuthin

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

Parasite Class Lickspittle - CHRIS CHRISTIE, GOVERNOR OF NEW JERSEY : ''I'm in charge of the public schools. In the city of Newark, as governor, I'm going to empower Mayor Booker to develop that plan and to implement it with a superintendent of schools that we're going to pick together.'' !

0.01% Media'tor' Oligarch - OPRAH WINFREY, TV HOST : ''I think that is so fantastic'' !!

99%er & Public School Headteacher - RAS BARAKA, MAYOR ELECT, NEWARK, NJ : ''Today we told them all over the state of New Jersey that the people of Newark are not for sale, that people outweigh money in a democracy all the time, that in a democracy the people should be more important than money, and that Broad Street should be more important than Wall Street.'' !!!

Straying off topic a li'l or a lot - especially for The 99%, is fair enough imho :-)

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by Joemama2014 (-2) from Brooklyn, NY 10 years ago

You all are being duped by Soros money. The August 1998 bombings of Afghanistan and Sudan (codenamed Operation Infinite Reach by the United States) Bill Clinton failed assassination attempt on bin laden for WMD's.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

The flood gates, appear to have opened against New Jersey's bully.


[-] 3 points by go4broke (120) 10 years ago

Good post shooz, Christie or anyone who betrays the trust of the people like he has deserves to go to jail.

Maybe him, Obama and Holder could share a cell!

I thought about twinkling you, but then came to my senses.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

don't talk back to any tweets

did you see what happened to rocky anderson ?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago



Then there's guys like Snyder and Rand and Perry. Or any number of them who've enacted laws like rape insurance and charging for rape kits, or limiting access to abortions and all those who are freaking out over gay marriage, cutting unemployment insurance, and threatening welfare recipients with drug tests and such......

Oh......and those who endorse teaching religion in schools, and the ones that think global warming is hoax, ala Alex Jones.

Just to keep things a bit more personal.

Just to keep things an a more local and community focused level.

[-] 4 points by go4broke (120) 10 years ago

Yes let's keep things on a more "local and community focused level" and talk about Obama's former Chief of Staff and now mayor and Bully in Chief of Chicago.

The Rise of Chicago's 99% Against Rahm Emanuel, Mayor 1%


Edit - Will you be making apologies for this DEMOCRAT too?!

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Ahh, so you live in Chicago?

I'll let GF know...................................:)

Or do you just really, really, really like to say Obama.

You sure say it a lot.

I was hoping you were in Florida, so we could swap horror stories about our respective governors.

I just got a wimp ass teabagge(R) for a Mayor around here. He just got caught going to Chicago and holding hands with an aid he gave a $5,000 raise to.

Chicago eh?

What a coincidence. Did you see him? His name is Fouts.



[-] -1 points by RadicalsUnite (94) 10 years ago

politicians are the least qualified people to represent others due to the types of personalities the duty requires. If requirements are the key to entrance, then how do we change the entrance and possibly widen the exit?

[-] 1 points by go4broke (120) 10 years ago

Good question, and I don't have the answer, but considering that the 99% is subjected to all kinds of piss tests, lie detector tests, etc. for employment, why not the same for them? And penalties for breaking the public trust must be increased.