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Occupy the Iowa Caucuses!

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 29, 2011, 11:48 a.m. EST by OccupyWallSt

As the United States prepares for another election year and presidential candidates gather to begin their corporate-financed campaigns, we are again presented with politicians that have all been bought by Wall Street and the 1%.

Occupiers from across the country are also gathering in Iowa to disrupt presidential campaigning and Occupy the Caucuses to remind the world that the "liberal/conservative, Democrat/Republican dichotomy is a distraction from the real social conflict undergirding American society: the 99 percent versus the 1 percent.."

Today, protesters were arrested inside Wells Fargo bank while asking bankers how much they had "donated" to presidential election campaigns.

Caucus Statement & Schedule Occupation Schedule

From Occupy Des Moines:


For too long, the 99% have been silenced by Wall Street and greedy corporations while the 1% ruling elite have robbed us of our democracy, our dignity and our livelihood. But no longer. The people are awake, we are strong, and we are rising up to take back what they stole from us.

From December 26 until the Iowa Caucus on January 3, a convergence of American voices such as this country has never seen before will descend upon Des Moines. We are the 99%. And we will be heard.

We’re taking our demands for true democracy and economic justice directly to President Obama and the GOP candidates, to the banks, and to the media. They’ve ignored each of us as individuals, but they can’t ignore us all.

Tuesday, December 27, it begins with a People’s Caucus, a Caucus of the 99%. Together we will raise our voices and prepare to take our grievances into the streets, kicking off a week of trainings and teach-ins that will empower every member of the 99% to act in solidarity to break Wall Street’s chokehold on our democracy.

Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, December 28 – 30, we’ll change words into actions. President Obama and the other bought-and-paid-for candidates who give us the brush-off when we try to ask real questions will be forced to hear us as we converge upon their campaign headquarters. We will be loud. We will be determined. We will be heard.

Saturday, Sunday, and Monday, January 1 – 3, we will chase the candidates and their Wall Street cronies around the state of Iowa, dogging their heels at all their black-tie dinners and staged media events, drowning out their empty rhetoric with the strong, clear message of the 99%: We are taking American democracy back!

This election year, while the world’s attention centers on Iowa, for once the loudest voice will be our voice, the voice of the People, the voice of the 99%.



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[-] 2 points by SayNO2GovInc (99) 12 years ago

FACT: US Elections are RIGGED... and it's much worse than hanging chads. Paper ballots don't mean much when the counting machine is rigged.

The unelected ruling elite are Hacking Democracy! They OWN the voting machines so they can keep their puppets in government.

Obama and most of Congress are certainly ignoring will of The People and the Rule of Law when they pass laws that allow indefinite military detention of US citizens (NDAA 2012). They have ignored our pleas and they have violated their oath to preserve, protect and defend the US Constitution...

they vote like they don't need our vote so they're probably counting on the Diebold vote/count!

True Democracy will ONLY happen when WE Occupy a Vote that Counts!

and, Computer Programmer's 'TESTIMONY of RIGGED US Elections' and Open Source Voting System http://saynotocorporateamerica.blogspot.com/2011/12/hacking-freedom-for-fascism.html

** NDAA 2012 was signed by Obama yesterday (12/31/11). Do NOT be fooled by the 'Signing Statement' because a 'Presidential Signing Statement' HAS NO LEGAL EFFECT.
see LAW LIBRARY OF CONGRESS--> http://www.loc.gov/law/help/statements.php

It does not matter what a president says in a 'signing statement'... it changes nothing about any provision in the law. So don't fall for their tricks! Obama said he wrote it because he has "serious reservations" about the provisions regarding detention. If so, he should have given it a VETO. The President has a duty to NOT sign anything that could be unconstitutional.

We MUST have lawmakers the uphold the Rule of Law and that won't happen unless we have the ability to elect them!

The Senate's 'Due Process Guarantee Act of 2011' should be on the Senate floor this month... OCCUPY DUE PROCESS!!!

There is no time to waste!
The Rigged-Vote is a CRITICAL Issue!
It is a UNITING Issue!
The People MUST have a system WE can trust BEFORE 2012 elections! Demand paper ballots AND Voting Receipts... NOW!!!

[-] 1 points by i8jomomma (80) 12 years ago

the elections have always been rigged.............the only thing different is some people are just starting to catch on...........our votes don't mean a thing and they never will.............so vote none of the above or better yet don't vote at all...........cause it don't matter what we say...........it's about what they want and it's always gonna be that way cause we ain't got the balls to do anything about it

[-] 1 points by 1SiriusMagus (311) from Minneapolis, MN 12 years ago

When private money runs elections we get what you write about. Unfortunately most American voters would rather go shopping than protect their Constitution and their Rights. They will call your expose a conspiracy theory and their life will go on until it doesn't.

[-] 1 points by SayNO2GovInc (99) 12 years ago

Tyranny is racing faster through Washington DC faster than People can WAKE UP, and THAT IS FACT! AMERICANS PLAN NATIONWIDE PROTEST OF NDAA ACT | to "STOP THIS TYRANNY BEFORE IT GETS WORSE (i.e. the 'ENEMY EXPATRIATION ACT') | H.R. 3166 says US CITIZENSHIP, LOSE IT IF "engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against the United States." It defines "hostilities" as any conflict subject to the laws of war (however, it does not say the citizen needs to be convicted) * New post, http://saynotocorporateamerica.blogspot.com/2012/01/new-year-2012-obama-starts-off-fresh.html - PEACE

[-] 1 points by 1SiriusMagus (311) from Minneapolis, MN 12 years ago

Thanks for the link.

[-] 2 points by BlueRose (1437) 12 years ago

Love and hugs to the protesters!

[-] 2 points by alnyc2011 (32) 12 years ago

Dear Occupy Wall Street NYC,

I’m a daily occupier since the beginning of the movement; there are drastic changes that we have to look at. Many supporters of the movement feel the same way as I do, which is why the issue is brung up. It’s not well on how some things are going. I spoken to a lot facilitators of the OWS movement, and most of you aren’t able to deliver me valid information. This isn’t in anyway to bash or exploit the movement but rather constructive criticism to think about.

For instance, when there were tents in Zuccotti Park, we had much more weight of energy and momentum, even drummers were making noise. Now that’s gone because we only allowed it to happen. We’re not fighting hard enough. There were many facilitators and people in the park that were pro-active and were able to deliver updated information about the movement, aside from the panhandlers. Now there is little to none.

Different individuals come from all over the world to Zuccotti Park for inspiration. A place for different individuals to interact and spread ideas on how we can make a change for the future. Now keep in mind, if it weren’t for us. There wouldn’t be any occupation worldwide.

I had heard many people say that this movement touched them deeply from the bottom of their hearts.

Even when the park got raided, there were still massive amount of people holding down the symbolic area of the movement. This only showed true dedication.

Remember when over 10,000 people showed up at the General Assembly after the park got raided? This was the same time the barricades were set up around the park. The police put the barricades there because the Government felt the movement was growing too rapidly, that showed an instant sign of fear.

They even put yellow tapes inside the park, against the walls where the benches are, made bogus conceptions about how it was to protect the plants. Bloomberg sent in NYPD and the Sanitation to trash and destroy books.

Ask yourself why?

In order to make a real difference we have to continue and maintain this energy, keep sending these vial energies. To not only show we are a serious movement but to show we’re fighting for what we believe in.

Millions of dollars are put into the NYPD force. Guess who’s paying for it? All of the police at Zuccotti park are being paid to stand around and do absolutely nothing and go home with big bonuses. We mind as well give them a reason for them to stand around.

Every-time a peaceful protester gets arrested and beaten down, it only makes the movement stronger. Keep in mind that we also have to play smarter, work in a fashionable matter without having to get arrested and working towards the goal.

A lot of different rallies are planned and thousands of brave souls are out there participating and risking their freedoms. But do they all have a reasonable-purpose and is it getting closer to obtaining the primary goal?

Also all these planned rallies is one thing but are the facilitators out there with the participants? Only a very few.

Back to the space.

It’s not the space that matters, but the fact that thousands of different faces come to Zuccotti park every single day. The whole world is watching and questioning. Even one supporter can make a major difference.

They need our presence, we’re all in this together.

When people come and try to look for information, interact, share ideas and not a soul is to be found. How do you think that looks reflecting upon the movement? People that pass by daily are being sent off to “60 Wall Street”. When they arrive at “60 Wall Street” in regards of finding information, they’re told to go on NYCGA.NET. We need a valid information structure to point people in the right direction.

It’s unbelievable to have people come from across all over the country / states to be told that they should visit a website for information. The individual may not be computer literate and would much rather prefer to interact physically, besides the website has all type of things going on at the same time.

Now from my understanding there’s 2 spaces “60 Wall Street” And an office at “52 Broadway”.

What I would think is that a lot of individuals are starting to get way too comfortable and off-task. A lot of excuses are being made.

Just take as minute to look and open your eyes on what’s going. Look at the other movements throughout the world where, people are dying, getting shot, getting killed for fighting what they believe in.

Do they receive the same luxury as we do? definitely not.

I think it’s time for major improvements to take in place. The Occupation isn’t at 60 Wall Street. Change isn’t going to happen overnight, but we can start by taking little steps such as going to Zuccotti Park, going to different communities. Interacting with different individuals, sharing information updates, and simply give them a reason why they should be part of the movement.

Even if it’s only one or two hours a day.

Seems like a majority of the Spokes council meeting nothing ever gets done, from the fact that some working groups have tension towards each other. There are over 80+ working groups, which is unnecessary. We have way more things to be worrying about then just argue about who takes control of what, and who has the power to do such.

The website Occupywallst.org needs major improvements as well. It’s a source of network connecting worldwide. It’s affecting a lot of viewers negatively. There’s a lot of bogus content. As if there were nothing real and important to post about. Just random videos and content talking about how well the movement is doing maybe we shouldn’t credit ourselves just yet.

I’d advise you to start posting more serious information, like the new bill that’s being passed NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act) and SOPA.

Let our people who don’t already know how it can affect this movement, our rights and freedom. The reason for a lot of the downfall in this country is that we wait to get things done at the last second or when it’s too late. This movement is still at its early baby stage. On top of that the NDAA bill passed on $663 billion dollars. Most of us that are aware of this are just watching it fly right by us, allowing it to happen as if it was nothing.

There was a chance for Congress to vote on a millionaire’s tax last week - a tax most people support - and if OWS had organized against it something could have actually been done. Instead - people picked a fight with a generally supportive Church and sat in an atrium drinking coffee, eating, argued about how to celebrate the holidays (People didn’t donate money for this). People argued about bureaucratic points, deciding which politicians to shout down. We protest against the banks instead of the politicians who write the tax laws that allow the banks to get away with paying no US Federal Income Tax ; they protest the banks that give campaign donations instead of the politicians who accept them; we protest verbally against the lobbying done by big business but don’t protest the Congress that the lobbyists are influencing. We are squatting in places that are private property instead of marching on the White House which set the Loan Modification program in motion that was supposed to help 7 - 9 million people keep their homes. Instead of protesting the “feel good but do nothing” modification program - they seek to block access to the banks. This all comes back to the people we elected to represent us in DC and locally - yet we are protesting those who are only following the rules laid down by those election persons.

We need a real tax reform

Why are local marches ignored in favor of supporting a union only based on its early support of OWS?

Yes we have supporters, but nearly not enough. People are still debating If the movement is on the right track. Half of the people don’t even know what’s going on.

We have to continue to keep up the vigorous energy. Keep in mind again, this movement is still at it’s early stage and there’s so much more to progress in. We cannot afford to lose the energy and slack off.

I’ve been bringing this topic daily to OWS, and speaking of the behalf of many others and feel our voices been neglected and ignored.

Part of this movement is that everybody needs be welcomed and that everybody needs to work together.

The real change has to start within yourself.

There are a lot that needs to be done before we can say there was actual change. We have to find a realistic demand and specific goal we’re aiming at. In order to do so we can start by taking steps such as working with other occupations, etc.

We need serious planning, direction, discipline, focus, coordination among all the Occupy camps, coordinated local strategies, Start local in our communities showing that we care, etc. I know that’s going on to an extent, but it needs to be more organized and purposeful.

Remember, everyone is entitled to have a voice and say.


The 99% that wants economic and social reform

[-] 1 points by anbubenji (5) 12 years ago

A New frontier is being occupied!!

OCCUPY EVERYTHING! http://www.occupyfashion.spreadshirt.com

[-] 0 points by vets74 (344) from New York, NY 12 years ago

And maybe you need to catch your breath till we get to spring. Meanwhile there's good sense to this part:

  • "We need serious planning, direction, discipline, focus, coordination among all the Occupy camps, coordinated local strategies, Start local in our communities showing that we care, etc."

The anarchist guys wanted to go "leaderless." So that's what we got, sorta.

We'll see.


[-] 2 points by fucorporatemedia (451) 12 years ago

When Occupying the Caucus, protesters need to focus on getting the facts out there, confront the bastards with the truth.

The 'conservatives' main shtick is 'cut government spending'

They keep pretending social programs have something to do with the huge debt they have driven up by their wars, tax cuts, BIG GOVERNMENT programs like TSA and Homeland Security.

Stop allowing the Republicans and their corporate media to lie about the cause of the debt.

The Pentagon is where the vast majority of tax dollars go....and here they are pushing for another war in Iran.

Confront them with their lies. Confront them with a chart that shows the percentage spent on welfare vs. military.

Bring a chart of what has happened to the debt under Democratic presidents vs. republican.

Confront them with their lies about Big Government. THEY are the party of Big Government and Big Government spending.

Explain to them with a large sign that Social Security is not the cause of our debt. It is separately funded by FICA, and they shouldn't have stolen the money for wars and tax cuts. Now they are going to have to pay it back with tax increases. If they have a problem with that they shouldn't have stolen our money.

The lies and hypocisy seem to be escalating with these primaries, and the corporate media is enabling it every step of the way.

The Occupy movement would best spend it's time AT THE TV STATIONS, surround the TV stations and demand they tell the truth. Have signs written very clearly so even the slow minds of the corporate media can understand it. They have had their head up their ass so long, even they probably believe the lies they tell....so go slow and explain it very clearly.

But the corporate media must become a focus of the movement. It is not enough to just use the net, or create our own media....many of us have been doing that for years....now we need to reach out to the millions of Americans that are still watching the corporate media for their 'news' and they are really confused right now, because the Big Lie has worked really well on them.

Most corporate media is using our public airwaves to spew propaganda, airwaves that are license to them provided they serve the public interest. WE have every right to demand these stations start serving the public interest, and we must demand this until we get what we want.

Right now, they are pushing a war in Iran, after killing millions in Iraq all based on easily exposed lies....that is how dangerous this situation it. We must act now to stop these murdering enablers.

[-] 2 points by chuck1al (1074) from Flomaton, AL 12 years ago

Don't forget the wasteful war on drugs.

[-] 1 points by neveragain (55) 12 years ago

i second this

[-] 0 points by korzib9 (80) from Newark, NJ 12 years ago

If you are going to call for honesty and integrity please try to get your facts straight.

"The Pentagon is where the vast majority of tax dollars go"

This is a blatant lie. The federal budget is roughly $3.5 trillion. The defense budget is roughly $670B (perhaps up to $1T if you add in Homeland Security, CIA, and interest on old debt etc). $1T out of $3.5T is not 'the vast majority of tax dollars'. It is however a very large number.

[-] 1 points by neveragain (55) 12 years ago

Regardless...That is where the trimming should be done.

[-] 1 points by fucorporatemedia (451) 12 years ago

That's the discretionary spending, then there's the non discretionary spending, then the special spending just for the wars, then the emergency supplementals Congress happily throws on top....it goes on and on....

On sept 10, 2001 Rumsfeld announced the pentagon had lost 2.3 Trillion

I think the dept of defense is working with much higher numbers than you cite.

[-] 0 points by korzib9 (80) from Newark, NJ 12 years ago

I am sorry, but you are wrong. The $1T/year figure includes all discretionary spending, veterans affairs, cia, homeland security, interest on debt that can be assigned to previous military spending and the special and emergency funds spent on the wars.

Feel free to look at the breakdown of the federal budget for 2010: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy10/pdf/fy10-newera.pdf

Please provide sources if wish to continue arguing otherwise.

[-] 1 points by warbstar (210) 12 years ago

Here is the source that I used to check yours:


This source breaks out the discretionary, mandatory, and total outlays.

Note: I am using the 2011 estimates; the actual expendatures may vary.

Total U.S. spending for 2011 = $3,800,000 billion (rounded)

Department of Defence $739,665 billion Homeland Security = $48,081 billion VA = $141,137 billion

DOD (Current Wars) = $164,469 billion

Total Military Related Spending = $1,093,406 billion

Percentage of budget = 28%

Total Social Security Administration = $803,511 billion

Percentage of budget = 21%

Total Health & Human Services = $909,812 billion

Percentage of budget = 24%

Conclusion, military related spending in fact exceeds all other spending as a percentage of the total budget.

It is accounting trickery used by the government that makes the military spending appear to be less. That is an illusion or big lie.


[-] 1 points by fucorporatemedia (451) 12 years ago

the point was, while they bitch about welfare, the military is where all the money is going, and their BIG GOVERNMENT homeland security, TSA etc.

Everyone knows that welfare recipients are not the problem, but Republican hypocrites keep lying about it. If more people are on welfare, it is because they sent all our jobs overseas with 'free' trade agreements to please their corporate buddies and make a killing on the stock market.

Republicans need to be called out on their hypocrisy.


[-] 2 points by Concerned (455) 12 years ago

In 2008, Barack Obama was the toast of Wall Street. The nation's biggest banks were among the most lavish contributors to the Democratic upstart's presidential campaign.

While the fund-raising numbers are not necessarily cause for concern at the White House — Obama has raised more than two and half times as much cash as Romney overall — they offer a vivid illustration of how the president's first 30 months in office have fractured what was once a warm relationship with the largest American banks.

At the largest commercial banks, the swing is not quite as extreme. But Romney leads Obama in fund-raising at JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Citigroup, and Wells Fargo, whereas in 2008 Obama raised nearly four times as much cash from those four institutions than McCain did.


For the 2012 race "Within the finance sector, the securities and investment industry has donated at least $152,500 to Obama, according to the Center's preliminary analysis, and the commercial banking industry has donated at least $55,300. In particular, employees of MF Global have given Obama at least $15,450, and employees of Bank of America and Goldman Sachs have given at least $10,000 to him."

:MF Global is the derivatives trading firm where former New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine currently serves as chairman and CEO. According to information released by the Obama campaign earlier this month, Corzine, the former CEO of Goldman Sachs, has already helped raise more than $500,000 for the Obama campaign and DNC as a bundler."

All of these geographic and industry-related figures will likely increase as data associated with donations to the Obama Victory Fund are processed.


Since 2005, Wells has donated nearly $1.3 million and $1 million in volunteer labor to the local Habitat for Humanity chapter. Wells Fargo employees donated 50,000 hours to help rebuild 650 homes in 41 states in 2010, the company said. http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2011/11/14/wells-fargo-donates-1-million-to-habitat-for-humanity/

[-] 1 points by jz12345 (6) 12 years ago

FACEBOOK EVENT: Occupy Jerusalem-AlQuds http://www.facebook.com/events/210316185725129/

[-] 1 points by jz12345 (6) 12 years ago

Party is the Way to Go!

Occupy Jerusalem-AlQuds - The Party! August 2012

UTUBE VIDEO: Occupy Jerusalem-AlQuds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lOxo-ae7ys FACEBOOK EVENT: Occupy Jerusalem-AlQuds http://www.facebook.com/events/210316185725129/ SCRIBD DOCUMENT: 11-12-10 Where Should #Occupy Go Next? Civil Disobedience in the Footsteps of Thoreau and Gandhi! http://www.scribd.com/doc/75348301/

[-] 1 points by TheRedeemer (1) 12 years ago

The recent arrests were ridiculous... This fight against inequality must be won by the Occupiers - they are trying to create a more unified world by dismissing the privilege unjustly granted to existing power structures that were created by our stratification system.

There must be fair rights for all humans in the country - citizen or not - and the only way to achieve that is to ACT.

I'm going to be Occupying soon... I just hope I can wait a bit for the weather to warm up. I'm going to follow this guide https://www.blackvenomgear.com/blog/57-must-haves-for-occupation-ows-checklist for winter items... but I'm not sure if it will be enough. Does anyone have suggestions?

[-] 1 points by Votet (4) 12 years ago

Please ask ALL candidates this simple QUESTION: "Was there misconduct in public office in the banking scandals and what are you going to do about bringing legal cases against those whose conduct was questionable?"

In UK it seems from CPS guidance [via http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/misconduct_in_public_office/] that QUOTE It does not seem that the person concerned must be the holder of an 'office' in a narrow or technical sense. The authorities suggest that it is the nature of the duties and the level of public trust involved that are relevant, rather than the manner or nature of appointment. A public office holder is an officer who discharges any duty in the discharge of which the public are interested, ENDQUOTE so even "quasi private entities with no contractual backing" could be caught!!

For those who assert that "The bailout was enacted after the bad loans failed. That simple." the question of misconduct arises because QUOTE The wilful neglect or misconduct can be the result of a positive act or a failure to act. There must also be an element of knowledge or at least recklessness about the way in which the duty is carried out or neglected. ENDQUOTE and, with the best will in the world, that is what in my opinion seems to me to be what has happened in USA, because - in my opinion - insufficient regard was paid to the quality of the "bad loans" versus the amount of capital in place to cover the risk, due to recklessness over leverage. That simple!! over2u

PS: Common Law seems to me to be the basis of the concept of "Misconduct in Public Office", and so could be applicable in USA! My suggestion for first up is: Alan Greenspan, whose idea of risk management seemed to be to "disperse" risk to others, rather than have the risk maker/taker manage their risks themselves!!

[-] 1 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

Aggressive political confrontation is the only means left to inspire politicians to consider the damage that they have done to America by their pandering to Wall Street corruption.

The Congress That Crashed America http://home.ptd.net/~aahpat/aandc/congcrash.html

A compilation of current members of Congress who have proven their corruption by their 1999 vote to repeal Glass-Steagall.

[-] 1 points by 1SiriusMagus (311) from Minneapolis, MN 12 years ago

An excellent discussion of Democracy! Go to:http://video.msnbc.msn.com/up-with-chris-hayes/45834166#45815386

[-] 1 points by aahpat (1407) 12 years ago

Rep. Boswell, Leonard L. [D-IA-3]

Rep. Latham, Tom [R-IA-4]

Sen. Grassley, Chuck [R-IA]

These three current members of Congress voted, in 1999 FOR the repeal of Glass-Steagall.

SEE: The Congress that Crashed America http://home.ptd.net/~aahpat/aandc/congcrash.html

[-] 1 points by Justice4all (133) 12 years ago

Caucasian Asses = Caucuses

[-] 1 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 12 years ago

It has been 1,165 days since President Bush's televised address on the financial crisis that crippled the global economy. This speech was broadcast on 9/24/08.

1,165 days. Way to many days. And still the nation is run by corporate lap dogs who have no regard for the honest, hard working people of this nation.

You have my unwavering support for as many days as it takes to restore democracy.

[-] 0 points by vets74 (344) from New York, NY 12 years ago

The Great Depression started in 1929 and went for how many days ?

Hoover and Mellon made it worse for three years running. Then it took Roosevelt till WW II to slowly build back up. (Excepting "deficit hawk" madness in 1937.)

We've avoided the worst. Unemployment is down by a point from the worst. If unemployment falls below 8% in 2012, that's a major improvement.

What else?

[-] 1 points by jimevanhoe1 (55) 12 years ago

Occupy Iowa

Romney is backed by the same "Thugs of Wall Street" that collapsed the U.S. and Global Economies. Romney's crew stole all the hard drives from the Mass. Governor's Office like Bush did from the White House, Bush stole 40 and Obama let him get away with it. The best election for America would be to have every party present a candidate with ethics and morals, Romney has neither. Here in Jackson Hole Wyoming the most corrupt officials and business people are Mormon Freaks in my opinion, remember criminals usually have more than one thing in common. I call them FREAKS, because they are perverted. That is a fact and I'll be very glad to see you all here this coming Summer, we will go over Court and Government Records, speak to hundreds of Citizens especially children, victims of crimes perpetrated by these Freaks.

Public Corruption is our biggest financial and social problem in the USA. The Chaos created by Goldman-Sachs created every 7 yrs, economic collapse, destroys entire communities, yet neither the Democrats lead by Obama nor the Republicans, charge, convict and put in prison anyone for Fraud, the greatest depression ever in American History yet no one goes to prison for Fraud? The Public Corruption by HSBC Bank, in their on going business of laundering Drug Cartel money Globally and in the United States, yet again neither Democrat nor Republican stop the corruption that is destroying whole neighborhoods, families, and friends, and has directly lead to the building of hundreds of prisons nationwide. Fact prison construction and operation is now the largest growing industry in the USA. Then there is Chaos of Needless Wars, to profit oil companies, Halliburton, the Bush Family.

Combined they create Chaos deliberately in the US and around the Globe:

Economic Collapse every 7 yrs on average 1988,89,90,91...2000,2001,2002....2008,2009,2010, 2011 on going

Drug Cartel Money Laundering by HSBC bank, in the 100's of billions of dollars annually, read John Cruz's book "World Bank World Fraud"

Needless Wars....Vietnam, Iraq...millions killed and for what, who profited, not the poor and middle class kids who fought those wars.............thousands of Americans kids are dead

Wall Street, HSBC, and the BUSH FAMILY are killing our kids, destroying are jobs, poisoning our neighborhoods, it is Pure Class Warfare

They profit from created Chaos ....Wars, Economic Collapse, Drug Cartel money laundering

For more information on the Freaks of Jackson Hole, and the Nation, how they create Chaos and how they profit, and who they are ( Romney is on of them) and where they live contact me at jimevanhoe@gmail.com

This will be a great New Year, we can absolutely end Public Corruption, we can start now by making sure the Republicans know Romney is a Freak, and a member of the "Thugs of Wall Street" they are his main financial and social backers.

Take the time to look up a friend of mine: Chris Swecker, charging and convicting corrupt Public Officials, Chris is a Champion for Convicting Public Corruption! He is the person we can work with and trust!

James P. Evanhoe

[-] 1 points by rightside (17) 12 years ago

Whatever. . . ! Look at the current POS that holds the position of The POTUS. Could we do any worse than that? I'll answer that question. No we couldn't.



[-] 1 points by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA 12 years ago
  • Remove $$ from elections.

  • Under the current very sick system, each U.S. Congressman and Senator spends the majority of their time (while on U.S. Taxpayers payroll) lining up funds for their next election campaign.

  • When they are running around trying to line-up thousands of dollars a day for their next campaign -- duh! -- it is time that they are not spending working on the problems facing Americans.

  • The more our legislators have to collect from well-heeled donors, lobbyists, and corporate interests, the more removed our elected representatives become from the people they are supposed to represent.

  • Take back America. Demand Campaign Finance Reform.


[-] 0 points by ptroa (0) from Joplin, MO 12 years ago

It's hard to take the above article seriously when I read the comment "we are again presented with politicians that have all been bought by Wall Street and the 1%" You have left someone out. Someone who has been fighting for what you are fighting for (whether you believe it or not) for 30 years. Obama has sold you out. I supported him until it became clear that he was there to support the 1%.

It can be the hardest thing to listen to someone on the other side of your beliefs. I'm pleading with you to really take a hard look at Ron Paul. Don't count him out, don't just dismiss him, because without him as President this nation will be a police state. I welcome a real discussion. If you cannot argue effectively for the opposing side, you don't really know what you're talking about.

[-] 1 points by 1SiriusMagus (311) from Minneapolis, MN 12 years ago

Ron Paul is a mental case. A man who tells you that the Civil Rights Act is Unconstitutional because it violates privacy. Have you given this conclusion any thought? If you did you would realize the insanity within his reasoning: It means that if you commit murder, or rape or robbery on private property the government has no right to intervene because it would violate your property and privacy rights. Total looney tunes thinking. Yet he does not hesitate to move the government into the private choice that belongs to a woman or the right of the individual to determine their own sexual orientation. The man is a looney hypocrite!

[-] 0 points by stinkyhippy (-6) 12 years ago

More loooozers arrested. Back to mom's basement assholes

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

Are you sure your Mom will let you take them all in?

[-] 0 points by jimevanhoe1 (55) 12 years ago

To The OCCUPY FORCES Members of America's Future

by James P. Evanhoe December 2011

Subject: Freak - Financial Terrorist - Social Terrorist - Pervert, (Perv) these types of politicians and businesses must be convicted and thrown out of office, their Public Corruption of our Government, Banking, Defense and Justice Institutions has completely failed.
Who are the Freaks the Terrorists...penning the label of facts on those that need to be clearly defined as a Freak or Terrorist. They are former & current politicians, their supporters and taskmen.
They all have to be identified and watched, in part so they do not corrupt the vote in 2012.

Over a life time almost 64 years I have followed both the Democrats and the Republicans. Can an Independent Candidate win the Presidency this time? ABSOLUTELY.

I am an Independent Voter. But my older brother Michael P. Evanhoe ran fundraising for California Governor Jerry Brown in the 1970's and early 80's for all of Northern California, my late Father Carl R. Evanhoe did like wise years earlier but for the Republicans, President Eisenhower and California Governor Earl Warren, who later became Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court, that said I propose the following to ALL supporters and activists of Occupy in the USA.


FREAK ......................................definition of a political freak

A politician currently in office or out, that is or has been associated with criminal activities during their stay in office or otherwise. Republican or Democrat.

FINANCIAL TERRORIST.........definition of a financial terrorist

A politician, business person, or company associated through direct involvement in criminal activities through investor fraud, mortgage fraud, falsely rated investment instruments, etc. Here Occupy Forces with direct knowledge like Nomi Prins, Matt Taibbi, Michael Moore and many others add to this description. And through these criminal actives the entire Nation went into a Recession 1988,89,90,91, Recession 2000,01,02, & the Depression of 2008,09,10,11--- the deliberate destruction of our financial system and our social systems.

Social Terrorist...........................definition of a social terrorist

A politician, business person, private individual, corporation, organization or group supporting efforts to undermine the social stability of OUR Country, State, City & Towns, Neighborhoods, Families, Friends, Organizations. Through Needless Wars, Laundering Drug Cartel money, collusion through a group of people in any form or individual with a direct & deliberate action to destroy OUR Social System for their own greed and perversion.

PERVERT.... Perv .....................definition of a Perv

A politician who's social class thought states the crimes they commit are for the good of the masses. The false and delusional behavior of a pervert.

Examples of a FREAK.................................Mitt Romney, Spiro Agnew, George Bush Sr., Rod Blagojevich, George Bush Jr.

Example of a Financial Terrorist.................Henry Paulson he lead Goldman-Sachs into destroying the Tech Boom, then became Bush Jr's US Treasury Secretary, Goldman-Sachs and Bill Gates, Microsoft, Gate's Representative from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation sat on the Board of Directors of Goldman-Sachs March of 2000, the date they started the sell off of Tech Stocks yet through investor fraud told their Small to Mid Cap Investors to keep buying Tech, Lloyd Blankfein CEO of Goldman-Sachs at the height of criminal fraud activities, selling fraudulent investment instruments.

Example of a Social Terrorist.................................The Bank HSBC for laundering Drug Cartel money, destroying our neighborhoods, families and friends, Goldman-Sachs, the Bush Family, Dick Cheney, Leaders who voted to go to War: the Iraq War, the Vietnam War, the Invasion of Panama.

Prime example of a Perv.......................................George H. Bush.... he will go down in American History as The Greatest Pervert...........through his orchestrated and deliberate actions Millions of People are Dead, through needless wars, drug cartel money laundering, the corruption of our legal system, bribery and kickbacks, as CIA Director, Vice President, President and through the actions and greed of the Carlyle Group and the Bush Family and associates.

Who is a FREAK, FINANCIAL TERRORIST, SOCIAL TERRORIST AND PERV. penned this day the 30th of December 2011. .......by James P. Evanhoe. In order to define who has and is creating Class Warfare, who is profiting from the destruction and deliberate Chaos. "ABSOLUTE CHAOS" We move forward every day! The Victory over Public Corruption is Ours to Win! Get every American to Occupy!

[-] 1 points by 1SiriusMagus (311) from Minneapolis, MN 12 years ago

Occupy and Change our campaign finance laws to limit all campaign finance to public finance. With out this we will change very little since money is used by the 1% for government takeover.

[-] 1 points by rightside (17) 12 years ago

Blah blah blah blah . . . ....Oh yes we know you want your independent candidate in the race so that Obama will be reelected! There is plenty of things wrong in this country and this movement is a part of it. Moochers, and supporters borderless America so that this country will further swell with moochers that will help you whine to get your way. Corrupt politicians are also responsible for the shape America is in for allowing illegal aliens to show in our country and their outrageous spending! But you know what? You ows protesters will do nothing to stop that. Just wait and see what you will do. Nothing but try to help Obama win because he is using this movement to his advantage. Pelosi and Soros are thrilled about this because you people are their plants. The people of this movement are the only ones fooled. You are the Poop Party Movement!

[-] 1 points by 1SiriusMagus (311) from Minneapolis, MN 12 years ago

We have corrupt politicians because the 1% are financing them into office. Time to upgrade your measuring and observing devices. You display yourself to be and ignorant fool rather than just a naive fool.

[-] 0 points by rightside (17) 12 years ago

You display yourself to be an ignorant fool because you are trying to sell a bag of crap but it stinks. You are terrorist and terrorist supporters! I suppose you are just one of the puppets who do not actually know what is going on though. This movement is for the terrorist/obama administration.

Occupy Wall Street is all planned so that we can’t protest in the future.

The ongoing PSY OP of “selling” OWS to the American people via fake poll numbers and twisted sound bites continues. I want to thank FOX NEWS for finally getting on board with the American citizen journalist community and outing the role played by orgs like SEIU, ACORN, The Working Families Party and even darker groups in planning, financing, orchestrating, and continuing to spread the socialist OWS movement. It’s good to know that we are not just out here flapping in the wind, trying frantically to tell the truth about all this, with no support from any official news org in the country.

Beware the slanted and well crafted “Illuminati polls” which indicate any sort of majority American support for OWS. Every “poll” I have seen in the past ten days has posted wildly different numbers – pro and con – indicating percentages of support for OWS. POLLS are created to tell the public what they should believe about any issue or situation. They have no bearing on actuality whatsoever. The same poll can be taken within 24 hours and come up 20 or 30 percent different than a day before. The real number of Americans who have indicated any kind of support for OWS is actually less than 27%.

[-] 1 points by 1SiriusMagus (311) from Minneapolis, MN 12 years ago

What happened to the left side of your brain. Out of whack and lopsided and paranoid to boot? Stick to Fox!

[-] 0 points by occupyboston4ever (0) 12 years ago

I used to support you guys. And I am always glad to see people standing up for themselves. But it seems to me that because you can't organize properly on your own, that you feel the need to ruin it for everyone else.

[-] 1 points by neveragain (55) 12 years ago

what is that supposed to mean exactly?

[-] 0 points by vets74 (344) from New York, NY 12 years ago

There's enough criminality and failures at social justice to keep Occupy occupied.

Didn't you notice that ???

Anyway, there's a hundred Occupy sites around the world now. More, really. You want me to order them around ?

[-] 0 points by marga (82) 12 years ago

America has been working under bankruptcy since 1933. The American people have been tricked and lied to from childhood on. The only way out of this mess is to put all our differences aside and figure out how we got ourselves into this mess we're in and how to get out of it. Try to be nice even if it kills you. Those who ripped you off where nice too and some knew they we're sucking it to you and laughed at you for being so ignorant. But that's ok. You will get the last laugh because no one likes a rip off. Find out how we got the bull pulled over our eyes and that's just part of it. Visit these sites for a starter. Its a lot to read but you will be glad you did. http://www.nohoax.com/ http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/us_corporation.htm


[-] -1 points by ReincarnationofLard (-10) 12 years ago

I love seeing OWSers imprisoned. They arfe all hardened criminals and psychopaths and belong in jail.

[-] -1 points by vets74 (344) from New York, NY 12 years ago

One thing never gets mentioned.

Despite that Mike Huckabee was effectively disqualified from running seriously because he had been a Baptist minister for 12 years.

Fact is, Mitt Romney was and is a Bishop in the Mormon Church. 20+ years.

How is it that Huckabee is "too close" to the Baptists, but Romney is way higher up in the Mormons ???

[-] 1 points by rightside (17) 12 years ago

You are not stating facts here. Maybe in your mind Mike Huckabee was "effectively disqualified" from running seriously for the fact that he was a baptist minister but he was well qualified. He had plenty of support but he just chose not to pursuit it for his reasons. He's strong on conservative ideas and many non christians were supporting him for his conservative stand. Whatever Romney . . . ...not so conservative as he would have one believe.

[-] 0 points by vets74 (344) from New York, NY 12 years ago

Romney is a Bishop.

Not just a preacher/minister.

[-] 1 points by rightside (17) 12 years ago

Whatever Romney like I said.

[-] 0 points by Kite (79) 12 years ago

Fact check.

Huck ran a strong campaign 4 years ago and came in 2nd place in his party. That's not disqualified. It's in the league of Hillary Clinton. Not disqualified, and not bad either. I think he prefers his current job. It sure seems like more fun than the Oval Office.

Don't be a hater. Mormons are part of the fabric of America.

[-] 0 points by vets74 (344) from New York, NY 12 years ago

Try using logic.

The drum beat against Huckabee's candidacy this time around carried the whole of the Republican Establishment. They run on religion every time, but having a Baptist preacher out front makes it too obvious.

Meanwhile, Romney is a Bishop. Not just a preacher/minister. A Bishop.

It's all about perceptions and what lies they can tell the people. Or maybe you think the GOPers are planning to change the abortion law? For my 2-cents there's nothing going to change about abortion while it's tied up with politics - leave the law alone and work on the social fabric, the overall morality to get change.

[-] -1 points by zachssaints (1) 12 years ago

Let me start by saying the capitalist society is a model of natural order of life. Life is not fair in nature. Greed is a trait built in to EVERY single species on the face of the earth. Nature doesnt get things wrong. For us to second guess Nature is to say we are Gods. Nature was designed/evolved using one principal: Survival of the fittest. In order to further our species we need not protect the weakest least capable of our species. Instead let them perish via there own consequencial genetic make up i.e laziness, poverty, homelessness, addictive tendancies. In all other species the weakest animals are the targets of predators and nature allows that animal to be killed so that only the strongest survive and populate. Why are we going to such great lengths to protect those who are too weak to protect themselves? Looking at that question with a COMPLETELY open mind you realize by doing that we are slowly but surely creating a weaker, more sickly, lazy society. By allowing those of us who wake up every morning and bust ass from dusk till dawn to do whatever it takes to make sure his/her family is taken care to prosper as nature designed it we are securing our future as a species to be a very good one. I live a pretty simple life. I have a wife and two small children. I live in a home that I rent. I go to work every day. I pay taxes. I guess you could lable me as greedy because I take advantage of every opportunity to make my life better even if that means that some one else does without. Again life is not fair and survival of the fittest rules. If someone is not smart enough or bold enough or talented enough to take what they need and at the same time protect the environment around them than how would it be beneficial having those people populate the world? I hope youve read this with an open mind because its frank and true if you really think about it. zsthompson1@aol.com

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 12 years ago

The way you bastardize thought is a testament to your lack of survival skills. There are many smarter and more forward looking people than you, who will say that enlightened self interests are better and more conducive to society building than your ape style survival of the fittest individual. The individual is nothing without his/her society and the admiration of it. The survival of the fittest refers to the society not the individual.

[-] 1 points by neveragain (55) 12 years ago

And since banks have no necessary role in this civilization they indeed should be the first to perish....if one of your children should end up addicted because their parent was an idiot....should he perish? When?

[-] 1 points by warbstar (210) 12 years ago

zachssaints writes, "....In order to further our species we need not protect the weakest least capable of our species. Instead let them perish via their own consequential genetic make-up i.e. laziness, poverty, homelessness, addictive tendencies...."

This is the literal garbage that is taught by natural law theorists. It is what underpins conservatism and the reason why conservatism is so evil.

Let’s take this argument to the logical extreme that conservatives support to learn why:

1) Any person with a mental illness should be left to suffer and “perish.” They are not fit to survive. 2) Any child that has autism, ADD, or other challenges should be left to “perish” on the street. They are not fit to survive. 3) During the natural passage of time we, all grow old and require care from our family or society. Conservatives suggest that the best thing to do is allow them to “perish” because they are a drain on society. They are undeserving of life. 4) When corporate America moves jobs overseas, people are left to fend for themselves. Thus this conservative suggests that they should be left to “perish.” The unemployed become disposable non-viable drains on society. They are not fit to be retrained so that they may survive. What happens to their children? They are likewise condemned. 5) If a person suffers hardship because of the reckless behavior of Wall Street then the victims should be left to “perish.” Why? Because bankers have a superior right to survival as those with money are defined to be the fittest to survive. 6) If a thief steels all of a person’s means by which they are able to survive then let the victim “perish” because the thief is the fittest to survive so long as the thief is not caught.
7) If a person commits manslaughter on the freeway via reckless driving and can escape then the person should be left alone while the victim’s “perish.” 8) The list goes on.

Notice that Zachssaints, like all of the modern conservatives, cannot produce a scientific model that is civilized, practical, or functional. They have no ability to document the physical properties of truth. They lack any ability to be self-consciences. They are without a moral compass.

Thus we find that this person is a dark-type, otherwise known as a purely evil person, that would turn against family, friends, and any stranger to assure the survival of self at all costs.

Zachssaints is going to die a lonely and sad person.

[-] 1 points by karenpoore (902) 12 years ago

Wow! What world do you live in????? A reply is not solicited because I will not spend any more time on you.

[-] 0 points by vets74 (344) from New York, NY 12 years ago

Espousing criminality usually matches to sociopaths....


[-] -1 points by catwows (0) 12 years ago

Tea Party made a lot of political gains because they faithfully stuck to one party despite its flaws. Occupy Iowa demonstrated against both republican and democrat at the same time would take them anywhere. Unless they form a third party to compete with the two existing ones. Even so the party formed would not be ideal.

[-] 1 points by neveragain (55) 12 years ago

the party system helps to accomplish not much more than division. if you haven't seen what division has done to this country yet then take a look around. we need candidates who need not stick to stupidity to fit into a party. we need voters who judge the candidates on their. honesty, ethics, integrity, social as well as financial intelligence. none of the current candidates in this corrupt system is going to bring america anywhere near where america could be. we need a complete overhaul....hence, revolution

[-] -1 points by catwows (0) 12 years ago

Tea Party made a lot of political gains because they faithfully stuck to one party despite its flaws. Occupy Iowa demonstrated against both republican and democrat at the same time would take them anywhere. Unless they form a third party to compete with the two existing ones. Even so the party formed would not be ideal.

[-] -2 points by Kite (79) 12 years ago

Occupations as practiced to date have been disruptions, intentionally.

Much as I, a citizen and voter from NJ, dislike the outsized influence that Iowans have on the election; I recognize that disruption or 'Occupation' of the Caucus is not what Democracy looks like. It's what bullying looks like.

[-] 1 points by 1SiriusMagus (311) from Minneapolis, MN 12 years ago

The i suggest that you check out the discussion of the responsibility of citizens in a electoral system. We are where we are because of the derelection of their civic duty by millions of Americans who preach the blind adherence to the status quo. For a discussion of what democracy calls for go to: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/up-with-chris-hayes/45834166#45815386

[-] 0 points by socialmedic (178) 12 years ago

Forclosure is legalized bullying, where banks, who through subprime lending signed people into debts under false pretenses, have occupied people's homes and thrown them out. If we have politicians who make this legal, especially the politicians on the RIGHT who implemented deregulated banking and are therefore responsible for the banking failures ... our "democracy" is in fact an AUTOCRACY. One class manipulates the laws so it can occupy your home and take away from you everything you own, the other class has an occupy movement and the first class creates many excuses for bullying the second even further. The coffee shop lady in one area threw out occupy on the basis that they could do it in public but not in her privately owned coffee shop. She unwittingly made a very good point that if EVERYTHING is privatized, as the REPUBLICANS have sought to do all along, there will be NO PUBLIC SPACE for people to use, occupy, express their concerns or protest. Privatization buys the right for one class of people to bully the other class out. Taxation buys public space for the public to occupy. Clearly the one class does not like the treatment it gives to others when it is brought back on them. I think that is the point of occupy, however confused it is by alienating the very democratic party which protects the only public spaces they can occupy. If Republicans had their way they would sell all public land and property off. Freedom to them means to own all the money and property for the purpose of bullying people into doing their work for them for nothing. When are people going to get it. It is all about the abuse of power and if you are to say that it is OK for the banks, and property owners to bully then why not anyone else? This is fascism.

[-] 0 points by rightside (17) 12 years ago

Foreclosure is what happens when people do not pay their mortgage or debts. What? So you think that you should be able to take just anything you want without paying for it. Hell yes you sign up and make agreements to pay for things and then you don't so you are out! No one twisted you into a mortgage. If you don't pay for it, who will pay for it? Yes it's obvious that you are against the REPUBLICANS so the liars and fools in this movement will lie till the end that they are not from the far left DEMOCRATS, but they/you are. You make absolutely no sense at all. If you don't pay for something someone has to. If you can't afford the place you are evicted/foreclosed on, you are living out of your means. Pay your own way and quit the expecting others to pay for you. If I rent a place I own by my labor and my tenants do not pay, who gets hurt? Well, I take a financial loss. Quit bleeding hard working taxpayers! You are not entitled to what you haven't earned/paid for. WTF! You want public land to squat on and whine about those who earned should give to the ones who have done nothing so you can have your designer clothing and tote the latest communication tec and the whole nine yards. Get a job! If you can't get a job, look at all the restrictions put on businesses that hire done by the liberals who you support. Sooo sick of you freeloaders!

[-] 1 points by socialmedic (178) 12 years ago

You think the overpaid banksters who legalized corruption and crashed the economy deserved not only to keep their jobs but get bonuses too? I see, welfare isn't welfare if you give to rich people when they don't earn it. YOU are the freeloader, chump.

[-] 2 points by rightside (17) 12 years ago

Oh no, you and the organization you represent ows are the freeloading chumps. You are working to get Obama reelected so that this time he will target the rich and redistribute the wealth. That would destroy this nation Chumpy and that's exactly what you freeloaders want. If you wanted to go after those bankers and those you feel got unfair bailouts,(which they did) you would be right up in Obama's face! Right there in The White House Lawn! The guilty are nestled right under the wing of Obama with loving care and you and your group of communist dopeys will never affect that legalized corruption you speak of. You are just hypocrites running your foul mouths and making a lot of noise and making no sense at all. You will not touch the guilty ones. The guilty ones are supporting you freeloading loons but I honestly believe that most of you are too ignorant to know that. You are brainwashed into believing you are accomplishing fairness. Get a job, earn an income, pay your bills, read contracts before entering into an agreement, live within your means and then you have no foreclosure or eviction. Very simple facts of life as easy as 1, 2, 3 and a, b, c. Don't blame others for your mistakes because no one had their arms twisted.

[-] 1 points by socialmedic (178) 12 years ago

I find it really weird that people who are protesting Wall Street are here protecting banksters by throwing the blame on Obama, who incidentally, wasn't present for the first bank bailout. Am I wrong in assuming that if this moron were yelling this crap in person IN the square he'd be asking for a lynch mobbing? I say set the victims of the sub-prime scandal on him first.

[-] -1 points by Kite (79) 12 years ago

Are you saying that the end justifies the means?

Voters show up at caucus events to hear candidates and cast their votes. Disrupting that by means of occupation because you don't care for this year's entire slate of candidates or the guy who won for years ago is not only undemocratic and unAmerican, it is unhelpful to your cause.

Or are you suggesting to Iwoan voters is that they forgo their caucus (it belongs to the voters afterall) because you are ready to usher in some new General Assembly Spokes Thingy and they can all twinkle finger their selection.

[-] 1 points by socialmedic (178) 12 years ago

Apparently you are satisfied with the outrage that has been committed on American people. Fortunately I know very wealthy people who are as disgusted with what is going on as I am. If I did not have this grounding I would lose my head. If the nation lost it we would no longer have a country most of this society was waiting for America to wake up. You can only wait for people to realize that what they supported head on was fascism. In the end you will have fascism and nobody in their right mind is going to wait for YOUR stubborn idiocy to figure out how stupid and wrong you were.

[-] 1 points by rightside (17) 12 years ago

I am not satisfied with the outrage committed on Americans by The Obama Administration and the liberals who are controlling America with their perverted agendas. I will do my best to see to it they are not elected again. I don't want your bag of crap you offer, I want my country intact. I want capitalism and I don't want any part of your disgusting movement!!! So when you come and try to shove it down peoples throats you perverts are acting like communist idiots. I don't want communist idiots representing me. Okay? I am very much so opposed to that. I believe in working for a living and paying for what you acquire. Get out of my face! I believe I speak for the majority. If I don't then I speak for me and my own. Alright?

[-] 0 points by socialmedic (178) 12 years ago

COW POTTY PADS. What does working for a living and paying for what you acquire have to do with capitalism? You want to see what working for a living is, go to a third world country and work for a multinational sweatshop as a slave wage laborer along with 5 year old kids. Your capitalistic lazy BOOTY pie in the sky anti-taxation, de-regulation, war mongering bubble burst in 2008. Where were you, sleeping on the job?

[-] 2 points by rightside (17) 12 years ago

You need to go to a third world country and try this occupying bs there and that would be with good reason. Then you would see where it gets you. Never try to compare yourself to that because you have no idea what you are talking about. You are not hero's you are spoiled Americans wanting some of the wealth you did not earn. You want something you are not entitled to. You want that pie in the sky that you had nothing to do with making. You want to throw in that "sweatshop as a slave wage labor along with 5 year old kids" just to have attention. But in reality, you people are a part of an evil corrupt agenda sponsored by AntiAmerican Soros and terrorist Bill Ayers just for a couple of examples but many more involved. All in favor of Barack Obama being reelected. If I ever slept on the job (as you want to lie about and which I did not), you have no job to sleep on. And you show more of your ignorance by asking me what working for a living and paying for what you acquire have to do with Capitalism. I support Capitalism and no socialism!.Get a fricking job! Look to the liberals if you can't find your dream job.

[-] 1 points by socialmedic (178) 12 years ago

In the third world you can not occupy because EVERYTHING is PRIVATIZED, That is why republicans are occupying third world countries. People have NO PUBLIC SPACE. That is what republicans want to do in America. DEPRIVE PEOPLE OF PUBLIC SPACE by PRIVATIZING EVERYTHING. THAT is why republicans use the third world as their urban planning model. I NEVER asserted myself as a hero. IT is you who has no fucking idea what you are talking about. By your IDIOCY you support the occupation of other country's by people who believe in slavery. Keep it up idiot. Alienate anyone who tries to help you and embrace the capitalists who exploit you. I really don't give a shit. I have nothing to gain or nothing to lose by your stupidity. You obviously have no common humanity. I will speak for those who have some modicum of self respect and dignity. WHORE yourself to the fascist industrialist of America. But don't come crying to me when they steal your water and try to sell it back to you at a price you can't afford. Die asshole. Its your own damn fault.

[-] 1 points by Rawone75 (1) 12 years ago

Apparently social medic does not understand what capitalism really is. Without the basically of capitalism, the person that works, earns, supports, etc has no chance to grow to a leader and benefactor of others, because the socialistic policies take the incentive and rewards away and distributevitbto the freeloaders. Real capitalism grows the economy, provides productive jobs, earnings, benefits, life, etc for those that participate. Some leaders in capitalism earn large amounts, but thos also generally up port and employ tens of thousands in productive jobs. I am glad to be one of the 99% and one of the 53% that py and support the 47% who contribute little, and are supported by the Administration, in order to obtain votes for continual socialistic welfare policies, and rule of the masses.

[-] 1 points by socialmedic (178) 12 years ago

Who the HELL do you think you are putting words into my mouth???? Your IGNORANCE is GLARING. This country is not practicing Adam Smith capitalism it is practicing FASCIST industrialist capitalism and if you have not figured that out by now you are a total idiot. And Socialism is not Communism, moron. Socialism lies somewhere in between far right wing fascism and far right wing communism. Perhaps if you had gotten of your ass and taken some college coursework instead of working for Wal Mart and dropping babies you would know that. Lastly, we have NOT taxed the rich for several years and they are still not contributing jobs to the economy. You are not one of the 99% you are a troll. Ask the people of Bolivia what they think about total privatization. They at least have figured it out and threw the corrupt company who tried to steal and privatize their water out of the country. Really, the Bachman campaign needs you. Go for it!