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Retribution Against the Financial Elite

Immortal Technique

Posted 2 years ago on Sept. 27, 2011, 4:20 a.m. EST by OccupyWallSt

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[-] 3 points by Eddieboy (3) 2 years ago

I just want to say that I´m really proud that we, as a species and as a collective, are finally responding and saying NO MORE!

We are all responsible for what has happened in this planet so far, we consented with the "elite", we allowed them to do what the´ve done, we even helped...

But we have awakened, and the future is ours. A future of love and respect towards each other, towards everything that exists, even them, a future of real justice and freedom.

To all of the people occupying Wall Street, thank you!

God speed to you all, from an Spanish activists.

[-] 2 points by Senecas (6) 2 years ago

Please, hold on. This action is beginning. We have to win. With friends you will support tomorrow. Brno, Moravia, Czech Republic

[-] 2 points by Senecas (6) 2 years ago

Please, hold on. This action is beginning. We have to win.

[-] 2 points by Senecas (6) 2 years ago

Please, hold on. This action is beginning. We have to win.

[-] 2 points by Time4Attention (7) from Altamonte Springs, FL 2 years ago

Whose the asshole waving at the camera. SHIT'S IMPORTANT.

This young man speaks it. I want to shake his hand and change the world with him. But voting wont fix this issue. It's collapsing, regardless. The powers, they DIRECTED us to a crash. They WANT it. They want it to collapse so that they can sweep in with all their money and "fix it for us," in their image, while we scramble for whatever little jobs and housing developments they toss our way. Be prepared, fight back, be ready to survive.

[-] 2 points by iAMyouAREme (8) 2 years ago

He isnt waving. It is the signal that you are applauding what is being said. We cant use actual applause or cheers bc we drown out the speaker and others cant hear. Since they restricted our ability to use microphones, we use designated hand signals. Just wanted to shed some light. :)

[-] 1 points by Time4Attention (7) from Altamonte Springs, FL 2 years ago

Ohh THANK you! Thank you so much for informing me. Hm. Maybe just hold their hands up? That's what people do in crowds and churches. Doesn't matter though, it just LOOKS so distracting, lol.

[-] 1 points by beanyboy (13) 2 years ago

That's a pretty damn good idea.

[-] 1 points by chuzhee (1) 2 years ago

yeah, that's deep. good organizing. excellent.

[-] 2 points by operasinger (2) from Stephansposching, BY 2 years ago

That was an awesome speech! Keep spreading the word!

[-] 2 points by BobbyOBahama (11) 2 years ago

TIME to meditate ....connect the hardware and software and energy of oneself....Consciousness is always AWAKE full of life and god....our original ONE cell is always AWAKE...dancing and playing in systems of perfected harmony 100 trillion strong....our HEART never sleeps ....in out in out in out the flow of the ONE love ....WAKE UP!!! and connect the THREE....the Revolution is always WITHIN....WAKE UP!!! and CONNECT the world's most AMAZING GENIUS biocomputer connected to the geniusness of EVERYTHING in the infinite universes ...NOW, TODAY is the time.....infinite and eternal blessings

[-] 1 points by Time4Attention (7) from Altamonte Springs, FL 2 years ago

YES, it's all available to us because it IS us! The vibration is rising and we can see the results here and everywhere. If and when things fall, we will have each other, and we will live and love. Brother Bobby, namaste!

[-] 0 points by Lookatmema (21) 2 years ago

Thanks, I will!

[-] 1 points by Im4change (1) 2 years ago

I would like to see a new political party come out of the Occupy Wall St. movement. The established media in the USA is all owned by big corps like AOL Time-Warner. If one watches CNN one tends to believe the protesters don't know what they are protesting about. They are portrayed as a mindless rabble, people that just like the excitement of a protest and have no clear goal. I would also like this group to start a news company that broadcasts on the net all the news, not just about the protests, but something everyone would watch. If you read the book "Into The Buzzsaw" you will see why it is important to have uncensored news that keeps the tradition of government watchdog. Much of the government wrong-doing could never have happened if the media were still uncontrolled by large corps. So with all these people wanting change by protesting, I hope they form a political party and news company.

[-] 1 points by crypto666 (50) 2 years ago

Immortal Technique is a hardcore 9/11 truther.

he does the movement no favors. he only decreases the credibility.

[-] 1 points by cloydcase (2) 2 years ago

The free fall that America is in right now, started back in 1981 when the Actor President The Great Communicator was Ellected, even though he was very well liked, he was very Anti-Union and had made a deal with the RICH of the world, to wipe out the American Dream and Middle America to make way for only two classes of Society RICH & POOR. As soon as he got in office he tried to bust the Teamsters Union, couldn't get it done , so he deregulated the transportation industry at a cost of 1.5 million American Job's then he fired all the Air Traffic Controllers. After this he raided the Social Security System and raised the debt limit to pay for the rebuilding of US Navy Fleet and assigned his Vice President the job of Drafting a bill that would wipe out middle america, it took him 8 years to get it done and when President Clinton took office he was forced by the Republican Controlled Congress to sign it into Law what we know as the NAFTA Agreement Hench the fall of middle America. All American jobs went overseas and Mexico!! Nobody working and paying Taxes into the System. No Jobs one working enough to pay for their homes. So all the Big Bank's cried foul and all of the CRONIES in Washington DC bailed them out with a LIE. Of course we the Citizen got a different story that the banks got stuck with a lot of failed mortgage debt. LOL But if anyone has a good memory and forsite can see right thru this lie. All so in your movement stay away from this so called Tea Party, for it is just an arm of the Republican Party backed by the Rich of the World. Your generation has got to step up and change the playing field for these politicians, this next election send as many new faces to Washington DC and demand that they impose term limits on all departments of the Government, cut out the career Politician, after they done with their term they go as an ordinary citizen, no perks or special treatment. Reserve all the perks and special treatment for those who serve in the Military Defending Our Freedom. Thanks & GOD BLESS ALL Cloyd G. Case Mishawaka, IN

[-] 1 points by cloydcase (2) 2 years ago

The free fall that America is in right now, started back in 1981 when the Actor President The Great Communicator was Ellected, even though he was very well liked, he was very Anti-Union and had made a deal with the RICH of the world, to wipe out the American Dream and Middle America to make way for only two classes of Society RICH & POOR. As soon as he got in office he tried to bust the Teamsters Union, couldn't get it done , so he deregulated the transportation industry at a cost of 1.5 million American Job's then he fired all the Air Traffic Controllers. After this he raided the Social Security System and raised the debt limit to pay for the rebuilding of US Navy Fleet and assigned his Vice President the job of Drafting a bill that would wipe out middle america, it took him 8 years to get it done and when President Clinton took office he was forced by the Republican Controlled Congress to sign it into Law what we know as the NAFTA Agreement Hench the fall of middle America. All American jobs went overseas and Mexico!! Nobody working and paying Taxes into the System. No Jobs one working enough to pay for their homes. So all the Big Bank's cried foul and all of the CRONIES in Washington DC bailed them out with a LIE. Of course we the Citizen got a different story that the banks got stuck with a lot of failed mortgage debt. LOL But if anyone has a good memory and forsite can see right thru this lie. All so in your movement stay away from this so called Tea Party, for it is just an arm of the Republican Party backed by the Rich of the World. Your generation has got to step up and change the playing field for these politicians, this next election send as many new faces to Washington DC and demand that they impose term limits on all departments of the Government, cut out the career Politician, after they done with their term they go as an ordinary citizen, no perks or special treatment. Reserve all the perks and special treatment for those who serve in the Military Defending Our Freedom. Thanks & GOD BLESS ALL Cloyd G. Case Mishawaka, IN

[-] 1 points by RightsOfMan (45) from Brownsville, TX 2 years ago

"The fact, therefore, must be that the individuals, themselves, each, in his own personal and sovereign right, entered into a compact with each other to produce a government: and this is the only mode in which governments have a right to arise, and the only principle on which they have a right to exist."
--Thomas Paine, Rights of Man

First and foremost, the ability of technology to surveil us has never been greater. As noted on this site, everything here is probably highly scrutinized by Big Brother. Want to do something truly revolutionary? How about truly anonymous communication so you can safely say what you really think?

Look into: anonymous P2P networks: => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_P2P anonymous (electronic) money: => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_Money proxy servers, encryption, and psudenonymous encrypted email, etc.

Further, let's discuss a point Immortal Technique touches on briefly: If you hate modern (predatory) banks what do you do? Withdraw fully and live in a cave--or, as he mentions, keep your money under a mattress? Should we really say that banks shouldn't have made those "sub-prime" loans ("they should've known")? Perhaps, but as consumers, the onus is on us to understand what you are getting into...or possibly to demand expanded protections through the law. That said, our most powerful vote may be through our finances.

We must watch where and how we spend our dollars and time!

If the extremes (continuing as is or not banking at all) are not viable--and I don't believe they are--then what? Same goes for the many topics of interest to me: Healthcare; Education; The War on Drugs; International Relations (i.e. the War on Terror); Food Production; Immigration; etc. We live in a remarkable time of abundance and ease (at least in this country) and total withdrawal is just not the way to go. Let's spread the wealth and raise the bar for everyone around the world.
Let's have an honest and much needed discussion about the inherent rights of humans, the purposes and limitations of government, and the ever widening gap between rich and poor.

If you're not mad then you're not paying attention.

I am responsible for my own actions and I vow to do whatever I can!

Viva La Revolución!

[-] 1 points by JeanneLeone (1) from Clemson, SC 2 years ago

awesome

[-] 1 points by username (1) from New York, NY 2 years ago

The current system (which is the same all over the world no matter what kind of regime you have) is flawed by design. It is a system of rule where one has control over many through fear (fear of punishment, fear of death, fear of poverty, etc...). The only real alternative is changing the way we live together on this plante from a system of rule to a system of colaboration. We are one humanity living on one planet. We are like a team on one boat. At some point we decided that, for example, some of us only get food if they row while others only fix holes in the boat if they're given more food than the rowers and so on along these lines. Now our boat is drowning and the only way to stay alive is to cooperate to save the boat, make it better and faster, and make the onward journey as fruitful for all as possible. Milions of useless objects are produced in ecologically unsafe ways every day just to keep the current system going. People are being made stupid and constantly distracted from real life by useless entertaining stuff which needs them to be brainwashed to keep buying. Life is more than eating, shitting and watching TV. We're on a minuscule ball flying accross the space at a mindblowing speed. And we're acting crazy. We need to stop getting distracted and stop paying attention to those who want the current system to live on. It's in our hands to live our lives differently. And there's enough of us not to feel alone and to build a better life for ourselves, because they won't do it for us. Not the politicians, not the finance tycoons, not the religious leaders. They just don't care. But our lives are in our hands. Peace, Love and Cooperation.

[-] 1 points by Altruistic (2) 2 years ago

Great video. Rather talk about the video than bicker about junk.... I took this quote from this video:

"If your religion hasn't made you a better person, then it has failed you as a religion." -Immortal Technique.

A gem :) Thanks OccupyWallst.org for showing me this video. He speaks wisdom. Immortal Technique is a good one on this crazy ball flying through space ... :)

[-] 1 points by Altruistic (2) 2 years ago

Is there a youtube link for this video?

[-] 1 points by senna (1) 2 years ago

U should see what similar asses as yours have done to my country - Bosnia and Herzegovina - we do not have country at all - just whole bunch of thieves and thugs in politics and business life - I am a dissident here - I am in heap of trouble - the biggest problem here is that my generation is all scared up - I am telling them that it is a worthwhile to fight for the future of your children here and you better life - here unfortunately young people do nothing for themselves - I support you if it means anything to you

[-] 1 points by tuco (1) 2 years ago

the youth of america is one of the most dangerous unlead armies the world will ever know. keep the info flowing

[-] 1 points by neo5apien (44) from Leesville, LA 2 years ago

Heya,

Sometimes I have to wonder what motivates you all.

I sense that there's an undercurrent of feeling that it's a crime to be successful and wealthy. That's not the crime, the crime is people wanting work, not getting it, and being forced into poverty. I feel that a positive movement for social change should come out of well meaning motives. People should be acting out because they want justice for others, not because they're jealous of others. People should seek victory for others out of suffering, not just blindly cry for vengeance against the haves.

Check yourselves. Are you motivated by compassion and love, or are you driven by hate and jealousy.

[-] 1 points by Kenj2313 (6) from Colorado Springs, CO 2 years ago

agreed

[-] 1 points by cdc51049 (1) 2 years ago

Here is a thought. The power of the WallStreet mogals is money which buys them political power. STOP playing their game. Turn your back on them and their system and their voices. Begin, on a grassroots level, to take care of each other. Grow your own food-you can even do that in an apartment (see vertical gardening). I know this can be scary, but start taking care of the homeless people you see on the street. Everything about this system is corrupt and has failed because of money. Not only that, but our money is a joke. It is worthless IOU notes backed by nothing. Every time a bank sells a note for a home, they commit fraud. A note IS money and it IS a fraud to copy and sell it, which is what they have been doing. Stop playing by their rules and start caring for each other. They will wither and die if you turn your back on them.

[-] 1 points by Luke (1) 2 years ago

Great speech!

[-] 1 points by SusanCA (1) 2 years ago

The NYPD brutality against peaceful protestors is criminal. Where's Mayor Bloomberg? Where's the DOJ? Looks like it's Giuliani Time Redux! SusanCA

[-] 1 points by LloydJHart (190) from Vineyard Haven, MA 2 years ago

Your being a loser conformist Binh, You will get nothing earl from big capital.

[-] 1 points by ZinnReader (92) from Encinitas, CA 2 years ago

This speech is about empowering people to take control of their own resources and lives. It's about activating and realizing the meaning of true democracy -- but most importantly engaging as people, as American citizens, and putting those ideas and values into action. Beautiful!

[-] 1 points by jaoag (1) 2 years ago

You know everyone in the US is being affected, some just don't realize it yet. This generation of people that refuses to start their adult life in poverty are our saviors. WHY IS WASHINGTON NOT PROSECUTING THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE STEALING FROM EVERYONE. Take your money back from the banks that are taking it from you.

[-] 1 points by LloydJHart (190) from Vineyard Haven, MA 2 years ago

Occupy Wall St. is nothing but a vanity campaign with no teeth and unless it resorts to blocking traffic every week day during business hours it will be nothing but squirrel getting crushed by a Mac Truck on the interstate. I can no longer spend my time or money on a campaign that will accomplish nothing. Good luck on your learning curve but I'm out.

LloydJHart 508-697-9153

[-] 1 points by mattymatt (88) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Are you oblivious to the huge increase in media support and attention this is getting? its not at the point of mass demonstrations and arrests yet. I know we live in the age of instant gratification but real progress takes time.

[-] 1 points by LloydJHart (190) from Vineyard Haven, MA 2 years ago

If workers listen to your cowardice back in the living wage battles of the 19th. and 20th centuries we'd all be slaves in far worse conditions and you would not be able to express your overeducated opinion. News gets you nothing. If people don't see something real they will simply roll their eyes and change the channel. You build the movement first types have betrayed every civil society push including the traffic blocking that was working when the Iraq war broke out. The only thing that builds movements is action, not occupying a park and standing around being indignant and then marching around police designated protest zones.

[-] 1 points by mattymatt (88) from New York, NY 2 years ago

I've marched, worked on the ground here, and helped to change opinions one by one - while you try to dictate the movement from hundreds of miles away in the safety of your house. clearly the coward is you. and damn right i'm educated, since when is having an education a bad thing.

[-] 1 points by LloydJHart (190) from Vineyard Haven, MA 2 years ago

Son, I have brought down a government with civil disobedience. I've had guns stuck in my face, been stocked for death the Aryan Nations and the Nazi Skin heads, been on multiple governments watch lists since I was child as my father was the smartest man that ever worked for them and died because of their criminal incompetence and conducted a sixty day hunger strike etc. etc. I simply don't waste my time with vanity protests because cowards in vanity protests always betray real activists who are getting real results.

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 2 years ago

agreed

[-] 1 points by Binh (83) 2 years ago

That's the fastest way to getting crushed. Riker's Island has more than 100 cells for everyone who decides to block traffic. Bye.

[-] 1 points by LloydJHart (190) from Vineyard Haven, MA 2 years ago

Your Being a loser conformist Binh. You will get nothing real from big capital begging and that's Occupy Wall St. is doing begging.

[-] 1 points by Binh (83) 2 years ago

Criticizing protesters who are in the streets from behind your keyboard makes you neither a loser nor a conformist, right?

[-] 1 points by mattymatt (88) from New York, NY 2 years ago

it's pretty easy to launch a successful protest when its inside your own head - unfortunately for us actually doing something, we have to deal with the realities of working towards change.

[-] 1 points by Binh (83) 2 years ago

Lloyd has been saying the same thing 10,000 times in these forums and in livestream chats. He is quite a troll.

[-] 1 points by RichZubaty (37) from Wailuku, HI 2 years ago

Excellent. Put aside our differences. Focus on our common goals. We have been raised on free market bullshit, and this is not that. That's about excluding. This is about including. We have all been brainwashed. We are all beautiful evolving works of human art.

[-] 1 points by patriot4change (818) 2 years ago

Did you idiots really listen to this video? This guy starts out by saying, "I'm here to make money off this thing... I don't care about all the different political shit these people are here for... it's all about the GOLD and that's why I'm here..."

Then, when he realizes that he is on camera, he goes into this FOLLOW ME bullshit about what is wrong with the world. His homey actually holds up his hand and tries to shut him up towards the end of this video.

You young stoners are all into "black-worship" and that will be your demise. Obama became President because he is an intelligent, articulate leader. Colin Powell was a great military strategist. Condaleezza Rice was an accomplished, educated statesperson. And Senator Herman Cain is an economic genius.

But, no... you idiots are going to follow some street punk with a stab wound in his neck because he will lead you down some dark alley in NYC and sell you what you really came to NYC for-- some good weed.

The fact that you would divert your attention from the REAL cause, and follow some NYC street punk at 2:00am... well... you just showed the world how futile your efforts are destined to be.

[-] 1 points by Kenj2313 (6) from Colorado Springs, CO 2 years ago

Lets not let the poison of stereotypes aide us in forgetting that this movement is not one that is or has been politically correct. You can buy weed ANYWHERE so if you aren't a supporter or these reasons then I am willing to believe that you must be close minded and not strong enough to make a stand if even for an issue that directly affects you. This isn't a movement about one topic, but rather a gathering of people with different ideas on how to make this easier as we move forward for CHANGE. For all the 2 party supporters remember that WE THE PEOPLE make CHANGE. NO president or leader will do this for us. The government's function is not to be working for us but rather representing us. Clearly they don't represent ME well because I would be looking at other literature or textbooks right now. And just think, really think if the FEDERAL government is not representing ME very well, then clearly neither is local or state governments. People should stop being so one track and use the whole of their brains and look at the larger picture.For all of those that follow religions, if man was appointed by GOD to take care of all the animals and the earth, have we done a good job? REALLY? Please even the "atheists" are crying out GO GREEN! Lets stop kidding ourselves because the next person has an opinion that is different than the next or doesn't don't look like you or what you think is "acceptable" The reality is that peace IS a reality it just isn't a reality that people that make money off of war agree with. Money isn't even the root of the problem -- only part of it. The real problem is people that have over educated themselves on how to be stupid. DO YOUR RESEARCH!!! DON"T be a drone to pop culture and expand yourselves. Knowledge is the greatest power and tool and it can't be taken from you EVER. AND with it you can NEVER be SILENCED.

[-] 1 points by SoldierforLiberty (2) 2 years ago

You couldn't be more wrong you obviously weren't even listening! 1, he was talking about the stock traders money making mentality, and 2, the guy waving his hand is saying he agrees like applauding! Know what you're talking about before you go on a rant. Also you're an ignorant racist, Colin Powell and Condaleezza Rice are sold out supporters of the corporate system, the fact that you think everyone who cares to challenge the political system outside a two party debate are pot smoking hippies shows how out of touch with reality you are. These are everyday people who are being affected by the state of our economic and social system. These people are not the problem, they are trying to solve the problems people like you create.

[-] 1 points by Kenj2313 (6) from Colorado Springs, CO 2 years ago

Agreed

[-] 1 points by patriot4change (818) 2 years ago

OK, OK, Soldier. I was being somewhat tongue-and-cheek and trying to "rile" you guys up out there. And also warn you about some people of NYC who would love to eat you alive. If you get pissed off at me... then I hope you get even more pissed off at the "sold out corporate system". By the way, don't call me a racist. I'm black.

Personally, I think we all need to review the blog posting from Gandhi King Mindset entitled: "DETAILED LIST OF DEMANDS & OVERVIEW OF TACTICS FOR DC PROTEST (compiled from suggestions made in this forum) "

Gandhi King and all those commenting on his blog post are going to set this movement STRAIGHT on course! For Washington D.C. !!!

Way to go! FREEEEEDOMMMMM !!!!

[-] 1 points by Silvie (1) 2 years ago

I've been watching this movement everyday. Keep it up! I'm astounded and inspired by all the participants and supporters. I do wish I could participate in a protest in my own city or a nearby city. This is a great step toward a positive goal and a step that will not be ignored or forgotten. I think the above speech points out some key ideas about solidarity that need to be brought up. We do have differences, so what. THe truth of the matter is that our similarities far outweigh our differences. We have to resist the indoctrination that says "don't think about anyone's well being but your own." We are in this together. We are really just a few small steps away from losing the very freedoms that define America. I challenge any criticism that labels me or these activists unAmerican for wanting to keep America a place where people have the right to education, food, shelter, healthcare, and basic human rights. I challenge anyone to call me unAmerican for wanting to live in a safer place that doesn't spend trillions of dollars fighting wars I don't believe in and only serve to foster more hatred for Americans. I reject the corporate definition of America. We need to start thinking about creating businesses that are run in a way that supports workers and allows them to be part owner. Challenging corporations with a functional alternative business model that supports the workers would work to damage the reputation of corporations. Corporations rely on dominance and reputation. If people could afford to buy an alternative product that was made by an American company that supported its workers with a living wage, then I think Americans would quit buying from big names like Wal-Mart, etc. That would be a way to "kill" the corporations or at least lessen their tyrannical hold.

[-] 1 points by Takuan (1) 2 years ago

If they’re all just hippies in hoodies, there’s no reason for you to think about what they’re saying. If they’re all just filthy teenagers, you can go back to your dinner and not worry about that nagging feeling in your gut that says get on a goddamn bus and go join them. If you can find a reason why this protest, these protesters, are unsuitable, then there’s really nothing you need to get worked up about. But remember, there are more of us non-rich people all of the time.

[-] 1 points by bambu (2) 2 years ago

Great speech!

I am proud of my generation... never thought I would say that <3<3

[-] 1 points by Binh (83) 2 years ago

Our bottom line should be: tax the rich. The City Council and Bloomberg can raise the taxes on the top tax brackets since NYC has a local income tax.

[-] 1 points by Cantoffie (17) 2 years ago

Thanks IT,

A truly galvanizing speech. Keep up the protest and more importantly keep voicing OUR need corporate responsibility and corporate money out of government.

Have a great day everyone!

[-] 1 points by BobbyOBahama (11) 2 years ago

Dance and make love to the beloved ONE ....TODAY the universe is opening a new door for mankind to enter....Be the love. Do the love. Share the love. Wholeheartedly.....

[-] 1 points by Echwell (7) from Rijsbergen, NB 2 years ago

Thanx for being here Imm. You put the words out right. Need more wellspoken people like u backing the movement and opening their mouth. Clear on how there is not one goal, not one message but 'things can be so much better, in so many ways'. Its hard for people to see solutions to such complicated problems. Regardless of that we are on that square, we are facing the biggest task humanity has ever faced. To change into an honest and caring race worthy of being called humane. Humanity's progress is in our hands and that is what we are saying! No easy answers here, just brave people who want to move forward regardless the complexity of things. Progress begins with that. the business-style-progressmodel is actually a model to keep us where we are, and that is impossible in an ever changing world. Hense us winning!

[-] 1 points by BobbyOBahama (11) 2 years ago

TIME to meditate ....connect the hardware and software and energy of oneself....Consciousness is always AWAKE full of life and god....our original ONE cell is always AWAKE...dancing and playing in systems of perfected harmony 100 trillion strong....our HEART never sleeps ....in out in out in out the flow of the ONE love ....WAKE UP!!! and connect the THREE....the Revolution is always WITHIN....WAKE UP!!! and CONNECT the world's most AMAZING GENIUS biocomputer connected to the geniusness of EVERYTHING in the infinite universes ...NOW, TODAY is the time.....infinite and eternal blessings

[-] 1 points by SASupport (2) 2 years ago

you know what's sad? there is nowhere near enough activity on this page, because there's so little main media coverage. But that will change soon I hope. There have been a few little pieces on some smaller networks, including Michael Moore commenting on the movement

[-] 1 points by kaykick (1) 2 years ago

We are the consumer and our dollars that we give to large corporations pave the way for their power as the 1%. Is your mouth where your money is? If you don't appreciate the way large corporations are treating us, then stop spending your money there. Look Local. Look Small. Put your money in the hands of the 99%. By shopping at independent businesses we are helping out each other and giving each other more of a voice. Also, by shopping at your local business the money is much more so staying in your community. Think about it. As consumers, we matter...a lot.

[-] 1 points by recubejim (1) from Stevens Point, WI 2 years ago

The clear truth. When we argue positions among ourselves we waste energy and play into their hands. Then one day down the road we'll say"Holy shit! That guy I was arguing with was an FBI plant." It happened in the Viet Nam End The War movement. So ''Shut Up & Save Something." Save a humane way of life. http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_10327924

[-] 1 points by UncleRocco (2) 2 years ago

What a great, inspirational little bit of sharing...One quibble, please, please don't let the energy of this movement get diverted into organizing around VOTING. Folks, if you are fighting for 1) a good job, 2) better political candidates or 3) a more humane system of bank lending, the controllers have already won. Voting is how you are disenfranchised. I'm not saying it means nothing, it is much worse than that. It is your statement iof acquiescence, that you accept the terms of their system of war, of wage and debt slavery. Instead, take his other advice, use all of your energy, time and money to learn how to grow food as far outside of the existing system as you can. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igbBItLemsM

[-] 1 points by iAMyouAREme (8) 2 years ago

We have come to a place and time where our only "choice" is to ask ourselves which is the lesser evil? We dont want to be disempowered by not voting, but there is not a single candidate who truly represents the people. This is our choice. Our choice to eradicate the power of left and right, and to unite in the middle to create NEW.

[-] 0 points by BobbyOBahama (11) 2 years ago

TIME to meditate ....connect the hardware and software and energy of oneself....Consciousness is always AWAKE full of life and god....our original ONE cell is always AWAKE...dancing and playing in systems of perfected harmony 100 trillion strong....our HEART never sleeps ....in out in out in out the flow of the ONE love ....WAKE UP!!! and connect the THREE....the Revolution is always WITHIN....WAKE UP!!! and CONNECT the world's most AMAZING GENIUS biocomputer connected to the geniusness of EVERYTHING in the infinite universes ...NOW, TODAY is the time.....infinite and eternal blessings

[-] 1 points by UncleRocco (2) 2 years ago

What a great, inspirational little bit of sharing...One quibble, please, please don't let the energy of this movement get diverted into organizing around VOTING. Folks, if you are fighting for 1) a good job, 2) better political candidates or 3) a more humane system of bank lending, the controllers have already won. Voting is how you are disenfranchised. I'm not saying it means nothing, it is much worse than that. It is your statement iof acquiescence, that you accept the terms of their system of war, of wage and debt slavery. Instead, take his other advice, use all of your energy, time and money to learn how to grow food as far outside of the existing system as you can. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igbBItLemsM

[-] 1 points by CAFREE (6) 2 years ago

I wondered if, no when Noam would come forward and I'm grateful he has. This is just great!

[-] 1 points by AriaLittlhous (18) 2 years ago

I wish the Vote On Demands page were easier to find. Without a list of demands, no one knows what it is exactly you/we want. Ending the Income Gap is great, but how? Ending Citizenship for Corporations is a great start. How about a national dialogue on rewriting the tax code, from scratch, to eliminate loop holes that favor the rich? How about a Jubiliee Year, forgiveness of all debts, financial, emotional, spiritual? How about Single Payer Healthcare?

[-] 1 points by joogle (55) 2 years ago

Where is "Vote on Demands"?

Here is the Direct Democracy Eballot on Planks for the USA Parliament's Platform: http://usparliament.org/v-h-dd.php

You go to the USA Parliament's "Vote Here" link.


BTW, we live in BOTH a republic and democracy.

It's a republic, because we're not a monarchy. We're a democracy, because we're a representative democracy. The USA isn't a direct democracy under the constitution, it's a representative democracy under the constitution.

[-] 1 points by Time4Attention (7) from Altamonte Springs, FL 2 years ago

We're defined as a republic and a democracy, but in truth shit gets done as a republic only. Those with the money "represent us" but make the decisions for us (or should I say, against us.) On paper, we're both. By definition, we're a republic. So says I, anyway.

[-] 1 points by joogle (55) 2 years ago

The 8th USA Parliament is in communication with Hon Brian Moore [Socialist] 2008 US Presidential candidate, as well as PM Roseanne Barr [Green Tea], to name but a few. This is a great opportunity to coordinate with Hollywood.

OccupyWallStreet must develop to the correct perspective on the actual numbers involved and the elections system for guiding the group ASAP.

We are a lot like a small group of ants pushing against a stampeding herd of buffalo. We must practice diligently over and over in order to become the kind of organization we vision.

99 percent is not good enough. 99 percent plus 100 votes is better. 99.9 percent with 1000 votes is best.

D-Day started with a small group of soldiers, but we are expecting more than a million to follow. We're not the two-party system under plurality voting, we're the All Party System (and independents) under the Sainte-Lague parliament seat distribution system, 99% plus 100 votes, guaranteed.

http://www.usparliament.org/

[-] 1 points by mryanbrown (4) from Glendale, AZ 2 years ago

I love Immortal Technique, and whole heartedly agree with him about the imperialistic and unlawful nature of our government. However an oligarchy is not the answer. We need socialization of resources and utilities, democratization of our elections, and republicanism for our government. A true Republican government is one which abides by natural law - god's law, and respects the rights of the individual whereas democratic rule may override this. Unfortunately our guaranteed Republican form of government is all but nonexistant. Designing men have perverted the language which binds and restricts it allowing for our current crisis. We need to vote, we need to hold our Representatives accountable, while providing for a system which ensures the rights of all. I leave you with this, would you want Democracy to rule the land in the formerly segregated south?

[-] 1 points by BobbyOBahama (11) 2 years ago

TIME to meditate ....connect the hardware and software and energy of oneself....Consciousness is always AWAKE full of life and god....our original ONE cell is always AWAKE...dancing and playing in systems of perfected harmony 100 trillion strong....our HEART never sleeps ....in out in out in out the flow of the ONE love ....WAKE UP!!! and connect the THREE....the Revolution is always WITHIN....WAKE UP!!! and CONNECT the world's most AMAZING GENIUS biocomputer connected to the geniusness of EVERYTHING in the infinite universes ...NOW, TODAY is the time.....infinite and eternal blessings

[-] 0 points by Lookatmema (21) 2 years ago

Democracy being compaired to mob rule? Wow, you just stepped up the debate. I support the 1%. This site proves they need protection from the othe 99%. Glad to hear a voice of reason in a sea of stupidity

[-] 2 points by mryanbrown (4) from Glendale, AZ 2 years ago

I'm currently in Administration of Justice courses at college in a vain attempt to understand how we went so wrong with the hope to come out of it with the ability to correct it. My instructor this evening (a current counter-terrorism liason officer) showed one of the Occupy Wall Street videos in class at the request of a fellow classmate. His blind support erring in favor of these barbaric officers who are fearful of their fellow citizens was disgusting. My disgust for these individuals has since been multiplied after reading about Balogna.

[-] 1 points by Kenj2313 (6) from Colorado Springs, CO 2 years ago

its kind of funny to look at responses like these. You may support the 1% but are you REALLY a part of the 1%? How can you support a percentage that doesn't care about you and yours? Only them and theirs?

[-] 1 points by Kenj2313 (6) from Colorado Springs, CO 2 years ago

Oh and for the record, please remember that the constitution was created to PROTECT US from the government and other entities that may threaten life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Think about your current situation past the political realm. And think about THAT.

[-] -1 points by Lookatmema (21) 2 years ago

Now I have to go to work to pay for these people to lay on the sidewalk and bitch at me. At this point, us suits outnumber the unbathen. For now they are a joke, hell the DOW was up 273 points yesterday. When they really start to interfere, well, have you seen what can happen on the trading floor? We can take that outside too. We can get very emotional about what we care about too. The difference, we have something to loose

[-] 1 points by Cantoffie (17) 2 years ago

Haha, so people that have something to loose are immortal above all other human whether they 'have something to loose or not'? People with nothing to loose are way more resilient than those with something. The difference is these people out on the streets protesting have balls. They don't need to hide behind curtain glass, or hide behind brief case. THEY ARE OUT THERE willing to debate. My suggestion for you sir is to go down and defend to 1% if you HAVE SOMETHING TO LOSE! if not your a coward.

[-] 2 points by joogle (55) 2 years ago

Everyone, like Hon Prime Minister Roseanne Barr [Green Tea] said; "Capitalists and Socialists working together".

We have the Capitalist Party working with us, and we have the Socialist Party working with us too. There are 100 possible parties and independents, and we're based on majority rule (50% plus one vote), and our satisfaction level is 99% plus 100 votes, guaranteed. http://usparliament.org/

[-] 1 points by mryanbrown (4) from Glendale, AZ 2 years ago

Troll.

[-] 1 points by bulldog831 (62) 2 years ago

We do not need the power of personality. That’s what got us in this mess to begin with. Continue leaderless, decentralized movement for change! Keep focusing on the issues, not the personalities. Continue leaderless, decentralized movement for change!

[-] 1 points by Lookatmema (21) 2 years ago

Thats right! Let us not even listen to people who say we should not have leaders! That's just how leaderless we should be! Follow me and I will set you free, or maybe sell you at a discounted rate

[-] 1 points by bulldog831 (62) 2 years ago

Please clarify what issue you are raising. Thanks

[-] 0 points by BobbyOBahama (11) 2 years ago

TIME to meditate ....connect the hardware and software and energy of oneself....Consciousness is always AWAKE full of life and god....our original ONE cell is always AWAKE...dancing and playing in systems of perfected harmony 100 trillion strong....our HEART never sleeps ....in out in out in out the flow of the ONE love ....WAKE UP!!! and connect the THREE....the Revolution is always WITHIN....WAKE UP!!! and CONNECT the world's most AMAZING GENIUS biocomputer connected to the geniusness of EVERYTHING in the infinite universes ...NOW, TODAY is the time.....infinite and eternal blessings

[-] 0 points by BobbyOBahama (11) 2 years ago

TIME to meditate ....connect the hardware and software and energy of oneself....Consciousness is always AWAKE full of life and god....our original ONE cell is always AWAKE...dancing and playing in systems of perfected harmony 100 trillion strong....our HEART never sleeps ....in out in out in out the flow of the ONE love ....WAKE UP!!! and connect the THREE....the Revolution is always WITHIN....WAKE UP!!! and CONNECT the world's most AMAZING GENIUS biocomputer connected to the geniusness of EVERYTHING in the infinite universes ...NOW, TODAY is the time.....infinite and eternal blessings

[-] 1 points by Cultofthecow (4) 2 years ago

Every movement that seeks to enslave a country, every dictatorship or potential dictatorship, needs some minority group as a scapegoat which it can blame for the nation’s troubles and use as a justification of its own demands for dictatorial powers. In Soviet Russia, the scapegoat was the bourgeoisie; in Nazi Germany, it was the Jewish people; in America, it is the businessmen.

[-] 1 points by duntan (2) 2 years ago

You do have a point yes. Buissniss men should not be hated for the fact that they are bussniss men but we can still dislike what they are doing. It's not the persons, it's what they do, and that can and needs to be stoped. In germany and Sovjet it was the persons. Now its actions. There is a diffrence and it is a quite crutial one but we must never forget the existains of it or we are lost.

[-] 0 points by agnosticnixie (17) from Laval, QC 2 years ago

Being a boss is not an innate condition like ethnicity.

[-] 0 points by BobbyOBahama (11) 2 years ago

TIME to meditate ....connect the hardware and software and energy of oneself....Consciousness is always AWAKE full of life and god....our original ONE cell is always AWAKE...dancing and playing in systems of perfected harmony 100 trillion strong....our HEART never sleeps ....in out in out in out the flow of the ONE love ....WAKE UP!!! and connect the THREE....the Revolution is always WITHIN....WAKE UP!!! and CONNECT the world's most AMAZING GENIUS biocomputer connected to the geniusness of EVERYTHING in the infinite universes ...NOW, TODAY is the time.....infinite and eternal blessings

[-] 1 points by suomynona (3) 2 years ago

Have you just compared the cruel mass murder of millions of jews in 3. Reich with the businessmens situation nowadays?

[-] 1 points by Lookatmema (21) 2 years ago

Um, no. Did you?

[-] 1 points by Lookatmema (21) 2 years ago

I am completely against the 3. Reich

[-] 1 points by neo5apien (44) from Leesville, LA 2 years ago

Good thing to make people think. Everyone needs to examine their motives and make sure they right.

Victory, not Violence.

Justice, not Jealousy.

[-] 0 points by BobbyOBahama (11) 2 years ago

TIME to meditate ....connect the hardware and software and energy of oneself....Consciousness is always AWAKE full of life and god....our original ONE cell is always AWAKE...dancing and playing in systems of perfected harmony 100 trillion strong....our HEART never sleeps ....in out in out in out the flow of the ONE love ....WAKE UP!!! and connect the THREE....the Revolution is always WITHIN....WAKE UP!!! and CONNECT the world's most AMAZING GENIUS biocomputer connected to the geniusness of EVERYTHING in the infinite universes ...NOW, TODAY is the time.....infinite and eternal blessings

[-] 1 points by Lookatmema (21) 2 years ago

Well put!

[-] 0 points by BobbyOBahama (11) 2 years ago

TIME to meditate ....connect the hardware and software and energy of oneself....Consciousness is always AWAKE full of life and god....our original ONE cell is always AWAKE...dancing and playing in systems of perfected harmony 100 trillion strong....our HEART never sleeps ....in out in out in out the flow of the ONE love ....WAKE UP!!! and connect the THREE....the Revolution is always WITHIN....WAKE UP!!! and CONNECT the world's most AMAZING GENIUS biocomputer connected to the geniusness of EVERYTHING in the infinite universes ...NOW, TODAY is the time.....infinite and eternal blessings

[-] 1 points by Rasterius (13) from West Leederville, WA 2 years ago

how many people are present?

[-] 1 points by Binh (83) 2 years ago

100+ are core occupants. The General Assemblies in the evening are 200-400. It fluctuates a lot. The march to Union Square on Saturday picked up hundreds of people along the way. Some of the pepper spray victims were actually passersby who joined the protest along the way.

[-] 1 points by Rasterius (13) from West Leederville, WA 2 years ago

instead of spamming could you tell me how many people are present at the march. The media is really misrepresenting the numbers I believe.

[-] 0 points by BobbyOBahama (11) 2 years ago

THE ONE IS PRESENT....TIME to meditate ....connect the hardware and software and energy of oneself....Consciousness is always AWAKE full of life and god....our original ONE cell is always AWAKE...dancing and playing in systems of perfected harmony 100 trillion strong....our HEART never sleeps ....in out in out in out the flow of the ONE love ....WAKE UP!!! and connect the THREE....the Revolution is always WITHIN....WAKE UP!!! and CONNECT the world's most AMAZING GENIUS biocomputer connected to the geniusness of EVERYTHING in the infinite universes ...NOW, TODAY is the time.....infinite and eternal blessings

[-] 0 points by Lookatmema (21) 2 years ago

This movement is huge!!!!!! Sorry, I shouldn't post while I'm on the toilet!

[-] 1 points by SASupport (2) 2 years ago

hey man, post while you're in the toilet, in the bath, watering the garden, it doesn't matter, just post! I am so grateful to every single person who has made any effort in this movement. I don't care if you send me a picture of your poo, you still did good.

[-] 1 points by Kenj2313 (6) from Colorado Springs, CO 2 years ago

LOL at the small print at the bottom of the page that says this site was brought to you by various radicals hosting

[-] 1 points by Lookatmema (21) 2 years ago

Thanks brother!

[-] 0 points by BobbyOBahama (11) 2 years ago

TIME to meditate ....connect the hardware and software and energy of oneself....Consciousness is always AWAKE full of life and god....our original ONE cell is always AWAKE...dancing and playing in systems of perfected harmony 100 trillion strong....our HEART never sleeps ....in out in out in out the flow of the ONE love ....WAKE UP!!! and connect the THREE....the Revolution is always WITHIN....WAKE UP!!! and CONNECT the world's most AMAZING GENIUS biocomputer connected to the geniusness of EVERYTHING in the infinite universes ...NOW, TODAY is the time.....infinite and eternal blessings