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Help Occupy Wall Street, Liberty Square, From New York and Afar

Posted 3 years ago on Nov. 15, 2011, 4:02 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt

Liberty Square (Zuccotti Park), home of Occupy Wall Street for the past two months and birthplace of the 99% movement that has spread across the country, was evicted by a large police force in full riot gear. NOW is the time to help. If you feel as deeply about the Occupy movement as we do, show your support by taking real steps today! We are counting on people all over the country to come out and support us to keep this movement going!

Come to GENERAL ASSEMBLY tonight at 7pm in Liberty Square (Zuccotti Park):

They can kick us out, but they can’t stop us from reassembling. Let’s show them that truth by showing up at Liberty Square with the biggest General Assembly yet! Come to GA tonight at 7pm!

Help the Occupiers Get their stuff back:

Supposedly, all the stuff that was taken by the police from the square will be available for people to pick up at noon EST today. WE NEED PEOPLE TO GO TO MIDTOWN MANHATTAN AND HELP THE OCCUPIERS GET THEIR STUFF BACK TODAY! If you can help gather the stuff, especially if you have a van or can rent a U-Haul for the effort, please call or text 617-406-8299

Support the Occupiers by giving them a place to stay:

Live in New York City? Want to support the Liberty Square arrestees? We are looking for safe spaces where folk who have been arrested can go after they are released to rest, tend their wounds, take a shower, have a meal, etc. If you can offer your house, call Hannah at 802.359.3628. Tell us how many people you can have over, for how long, where you live, and a return number. Thanks!

Medical Needs Supplies:

The medics lost all of their supplies last night along with everyone else. We urgently need all basic medical supplies. Things such as gauze, bandages, bandaids, vitamin C, heat packs, cold packs, gloves, asprin, AND ANY OTHER THINGS THAT YOU CAN THINK MAY BE NECESSARY FOR MEDICAL NEEDS!

Medics ALSO need new tent, headlamps, cots, battery-powered lanterns

Please bring supplies to S.I.S (OWS Shipping and Storage) at 52 Broadway, NYC.

Mailing Address:

118A Fulton St.
PO Box 205
New York, NY 10038

Call assistant Attorney General with the Civil Rights Division:

http://interoccupy.org/CivilRightscomplaint.pdf is a complaint submitted on behalf of the Occupy Movement to the Department of Justice in response to the increasing antagonism of police against peaceful protesters. It was formally submitted to the Department of Justice on 11/10/2011. It is addressed to a Mister Thomas Perez, the assistant Attorney General with the Civil Rights Division. Mr. Perez’s office number is (202) 514-4609. Let us call, tie up his lines, and demand that every citizen has a right to peaceably assemble without the threat of police violence.

Link To Potential Actions

Contact movementbuildingny@gmail.com for potential additions to this list.

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[-] 7 points by jeffvanburen (7) 3 years ago

Everybody should put up a tent in front of their houses to show support for the occupations.

[-] 7 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6584) 3 years ago

To all of you occupiers: Fight back non violently. grow, fight, REoccupy The world desperatly needs change, and a growing occupy movement is exactly what we need. Keep on growing, keep on fighting. Nothing can stop us now! "What you should do is exactly the kinds of things that are going to lead to hysteria among privileged and powerful people" - Noam Chomsky

Please check out my article ”The Transition Phase: The Road To Freedom” Thanks

solidarity from Norway yours s struggleforfreedom

[-] 0 points by FiddleDeedee (23) 3 years ago

Why in the world would you want to impeach Bloomberg? He's a major supporter of Democratic causes! He supports our president!

[-] 3 points by EddieD66 (13) 3 years ago

Why is it so easy for politicians to order police action against ordinary people exercising their rights, but near impossible for them to bring the real criminals that ruined our economy to justice? Our system is entirely corrupted, entirely broken, entirely unethical, and utterly deplorable. Shame on the leaders of this country. Thankfully, the people are pushing back. Thank you, Occupiers. You are this country's salvation. You are doing the most important thing in the world right now. Please stay strong and well.

[-] 1 points by Hanna (4) from Brooklyn, NY 3 years ago

I feel exactly that. They are doing the most importsant thing in the world right now. This fight is about the world we must have or perish. It is about everything from global warming to respect for we workers to world peace. It's about the attitude that respects balance and life versus one of insatiability that will destroy everything.

[-] 3 points by SuzannahTroy (31) 3 years ago

I am very tired and handed out a ton of anti-Bloomberg and Christine Quinn - Mike’s mini-me Christine Quinn no to Rudin luxury condos with no full service hospital West Village flyers at OWS yesterday....read this -- I am wiped so I hope you can get the gist...

http://suzannahbtroy.blogspot.com/2011/11/ny1-terminates-camera-man-why-bill.html

found petition to impeach Bloomberg on OWS street added this to my blog http://mayorbloombergkingofnewyork.blogspot.com/

http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/impeachbloomberg

The petition leaves out the fact

1) Mike Bloomberg and his mini-me pushed the great lie that we needed Mike to help us with the economy. They only helped their pals. http://councilpedia.org/index.php?title=Christine_Quinn Look up donations to her mayoral campaign...real estate magnates like Rudin (NY1 camera man fired by NY1 for allegedly staging us when he filmed our protest outside Rudin’s sales office for luxury condos were St. Vincent’s was......, campaign donations...Wall St. bail-out money

More people fell in to poverty and or were forced to leave their neighborhoods and or NYC.

2) Under Bloomberg the largest White Collar Crimes tax payer abuse, fraud EVER including CityTime, ECTP (911 Tech System), NYCAPS, countless corrupt Board of Ed deals including tech as well...

3) Mike Bloomberg and his deputy mayors Patricia Harris, past Kevin Sheekey and more were given immunity to testify in the Haggerty Trial. Mike still perjured himself and is not protected by immunity....just like the campaign laws he broke -- it carries jail time.

Why didn’t Team Bloomberg and gang waive Immunity? Because they are guilty?

Apparently with our Manhattan DA arresting innocent protestors is okay but not corrupt politicians?

[-] 2 points by BreadLandPeace (359) 3 years ago

Could somebody please explain how one judge makes a ruling that OWS can reoccupy the park with tents; and then when the 1% didn't like the ruling, they simply replaced the judge and issued a high-handed pronouncement in legalese overturning the first ruling. The injustice system is a lie, but is there a legal way we can fight in addition to the appeals process? And can't we highlight the outrageous and undemocratic legal coup by Bloomberg & Company? Thanks to all you brave protestors on the ground!

[-] 2 points by wildcamus (2) 3 years ago

What's the best way to occupy virtually? There's going to be a valiant struggle to occupy actual corporate property, but how about flooding corporate sites with comments wherever they can be posted?

[-] 1 points by Hanna (4) from Brooklyn, NY 3 years ago

I think you have something.

[-] 2 points by Burbur (2) from Stockholm, Stockholms Län 3 years ago

The 1s do not only think the state of the union is sound but they consider they're entitled to all channels of public opinion as well. It doesn't suffice owning all major media. Remember that it wasn't too long ago that they had on their agenda to commersialize and regulate the internet. But guess what, it's a new era. The information flow of today makes it already almost impossible to cover up corruption and keep the 99 in place. Whatever they trie, they will not succeed. The time has come for truth and justice.

[-] 2 points by Iranian (4) 3 years ago

For those who have become awake to some facts and can't be indifferent to bad things hapening around them, being in different conditions is no obstacle: http://forthetimebeing.persianblog.ir/post/66/ Resistance is followed by being successful....

[-] 2 points by TheGiops (3) from Roseville, CA 3 years ago

Way scarier than we think. Looking at the resignation of two European Prime Ministers and the new President of the European Bank, we can see that they are men tied with Goldman Sachs and the FED RESERVE!!! http://99vs1.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/are-the-1-taking-over-europe-and-next/

[-] 1 points by BrandonStone (2) 1 year ago

And peopel still don't realize that it was perfectly legal and in fact was illegally shut down. But wait, upon hearing this they look into it and the first thing they come across is that the protestors were violent, so then they seem to naturally assume that it's the protestors' fault and call it good. But, for the few wise and the few truly smart people that were not destroyed in this society hellbent on conformity, they keep looking into it and realize that the protestors not only acted when forcebly provoked by not only the SWAT, but also the police, but still refrained from acting while they still had a choice of remaining peaceful. But of course anything bad about the police doesn't get it and when it does people tend to assume that it's a lie. so, whatever. Little do they know, however, that if the trucking companies in Ottawa and everywhere else, or even just half of them, or the drivers for that matter, protested, that they'd have to give in to the demands. Ha ha! URL: http://www.shipmts.com/shipmts/Coverage/TruckingCompaniesforOttawa/tabid/138/language/en-CA/Default.aspx

[-] 1 points by i8jomomma (80) 3 years ago

how about occupying the homes of the ones that put us in the streets and of the ones in the media that say we should take a bath and get a job..........take away everything they got and tell them that they are now the ones who need to take a bath and get a job.........make them walk a mile in our shoes and see how they like it.........flash mob them

[-] 1 points by treerapper (1) 3 years ago

I would like to suggest that everyone call the Uniformed Sanitationmens Local 831 Teamsters Brotherhood - 212 964-8900 - to protest DOS Workers violation of OWS. It's one thing that the cops are malevolent, it's another that the DOS Union Workers facilitate that malevolence.

Local 831 needs to hear from all of us that going along is not acceptable. They need to refuse to do NYPD's dirty work.

[-] 1 points by KAMILA24 (-4) 3 years ago

I am tuning into this cause. I do feel strongly about it. I am in Texas and i will do my part. I've looked at some of the comments below. I ask that the comments be positive and supportive. This is great to see the American people take a stand for change no matter how it gets done. Keep fighting, keep going, I AM MOVED! You all are moving the country. I AM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN AND I WILL BE HEARD!!!!!!

[-] 1 points by michael414 (2) from Columbia, SC 3 years ago

Permanent occupation of Liberty Square has never been the objective. The movement is called Occupy Wall Street. A Winter in the park will sap tons of energy from the movement. Here’s how a capitalist would do it: locate an abandoned shopping center or strip mall. Rent it cheap, move in, take it over. Set up dorms, a kitchen, a headquarters, security. Get transportation, busses or subway passes. Start every morning warm, fed, and organized. Transport multitudes to Wall Street, or the Federal Reserve, or other Targets of Opportunity daily. The very notion of needing permission or permits for the public to express themselves in public in unacceptable.

Do not hunker down in a park waiting the next police action. Mobilize, go on the attack, DO NOT LOSE THE MOMENTUM.

We are with you.

[-] 1 points by skyjones (-2) 3 years ago

You have done an excellent job of research and writing.

[-] 1 points by TimeHasC0me (66) 3 years ago

The only way you, OWS, all will make a difference is if you affect the day to day operation or flow of life, commerce, and or government. As i once witnessed in France, their government wanted to raise fines, tolls, taxes, etc. on all commercial truck drivers and trucking companies. What happened next was amazing. All French trucking companies and drivers criss crossed their trucks across all major highways in their country, completely blocking and disabling the transportation of all goods throughout the country. This lasted for about a week or less, until the government backed down and reversed its decision. It worked because it takes a protest of this scale to affect change. Occupying a park, although symbolic, will never ever ever do anything to change how disgustingly our government and the rich control all our lives, and continue to make the rich richer. You need to regroup, and i mean regroup all OWS protesters from across the country to a few very large simultaneous protests because small groups here and there won't really make a statement and can be easily intimidated and disbanded by authorities. You need a board of smart leaders that can effectively communicate a set of real smart ideas and demands and better organize the movement. You need to continue to use social media as a way to communicate as they did in the middle east to oust their dictators. But most of all you need to make one massive statement by protesting and affecting the day to day operation or flow of life, commerce, and or government. It will be the only way that you will get the govt and the rich to stop.......turn around......and stare in awe at the EPIC scale of the movement before them, and realize that the time has come, and that We The People have officially drawn the line in the sand, and are no longer willing to play their game any longer. IT IS THE ONLY WAY. Thank you.

[-] 1 points by danielhb (2) 3 years ago

Consejo para los inexpertos compañeros manifestantes de EEUU ante la carga de la represión montada: lleven bolsas de bolitas (canicas) y arrójenlas al paso de los caballos, sobre el asfalto son un elemento altamente desestabilizador de caballo y jinete.

Daniel, desde La Argentina

Tip for the inexperienced U.S. fellow manifestants to the charge of mounted repression, carrying bags of balls (marbles) and throw them to the passage of horses. On the asphalt are highly destabilizing element of horse and rider.

Sorry for my bad English. Daniel, from La Argentina

[-] 0 points by FiddleDeedee (23) 3 years ago

Are you crazy? That would be very dangerous and possibly deadly for both horse and rider. Daniel, bad idea. Leave the violence out.

[-] 1 points by Idahogal2233 (2) 3 years ago

If we are broken apart we can still cover the nation by unified efforts that are directed by a central unit. Do as the Afro-americans did in the south. Take advantage of everyone who wants to fight but lacks the ability. Give the order using the web to show the true power of the 99%. We can occupy the entire nation at once. Do not buy a paper today. Do not buy any clothes or personal items for a solid week. Do not go out to eat for a week. Do not use certain kinds of public transit for a week. Choose items that will show the rich that we are not to be ignored. Use the power of the many to make a difference. No one buying fruit for a week will hurt the man at the top or maybe drop the price. Occupy the Nation. From the warmth of your bedroom. United we stand, the 1% may control the law, but they cannot control ALL of us. Several other nations used the internet to get the word out about what to do and where to go. All we need are the leaders with the faith that we can make a better nation. I shall await my orders. I am only a little tiny link in a very long chain...but I will hold. I do not need to set up a tent, I can do the right nothing and make a difference.

[-] 1 points by Idahogal2233 (2) 3 years ago

If we are broken apart we can still cover the nation by unified efforts that are directed by a central unit. Do as the Afro-americans did in the south. Take advantage of everyone who wants to fight but lacks the ability. Give the order using the web to show the true power of the 99%. We can occupy the entire nation at once. Do not buy a paper today. Do not buy any clothes or personal items for a solid week. Do not go out to eat for a week. Do not use certain kinds of public transit for a week. Choose items that will show the rich that we are not to be ignored. Use the power of the many to make a difference. No one buying fruit for a week will hurt the man at the top or maybe drop the price. Occupy the Nation. From the warmth of your bedroom. United we stand, the 1% may control the law, but they cannot control ALL of us. Several other nations used the internet to get the word out about what to do and where to go. All we need are the leaders with the faith that we can make a better nation. I shall await my orders. I am only a little tiny link in a very long chain...but I will hold. I do not need to set up a tent, I can do the right nothing and make a difference.

[-] 1 points by aRcaNum (3) 3 years ago

We need, sleeping bags and BOXES AND BOXES OF HAND WARMERS!!! They can't prevent that.

[-] 1 points by firedog77 (3) 3 years ago

How about a general strike?The 99% take a day or two off,the 1% will starve!

[-] 2 points by smith5john (4) 3 years ago

We gotta hit them where it hurts. This month is key. if we concentrate and not spend money for christmas gifts we will have them by the balls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

[-] 0 points by Farmer (1) from Winner, SD 3 years ago

Take the day or two off...and the immigrant American who is looking for opportunity will step in and take your job for less money and be thankful for that opportunity.

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[-] 1 points by sufinaga (513) 3 years ago

NOW WE KNOW WHAT THE NATIVE AMERICANS FEEL LIKE!!! the fascist elite stole their land and mortgaged it in plots to the worker slave immigrants. what can we learn from the French Resistance in dealing with a fascist occupier of their land? we have been driven from our land by the "community police" who are freemason thugs in uniforms. our community is in our heart and lives FOREVER!! we must be confident in biblical prophesy but not a dupe of the fascist christian male hierarchy. daniel2 the stone cut out without hands is the SILICON CHIP that grows into a great mountain that fills the whole earth which is the WORLDWIDE WEB. this destroys this FASCIST BABYLON under the Whore of Babylon, the queen of england. then in Revelations we read there shall be no more curse or MASS UNEMPLOYMENT and the Tree of Life, Cannabis, will be growing everywhere in the midst of the street that is in people's houses and on both sides of the river that is on both sides of the tracks or in all classes of society. cannabis is for the healing of the nations. the worldwide web and our planetary community will survive global catastrophy. the meek shall inherit the earth. JAH RAS TAFARI. CHANT DOWN BABYLON!!

[-] 1 points by hmsdiscovery (2) 3 years ago

what Bible translation are you using?

[-] 0 points by pinker (586) 3 years ago

You are now comparing yourself to American Indians? Is this a joke?

[-] 1 points by dreambig (1) 3 years ago

If people feel passionately enough but don't want violence we should have a MASS HUNGER STRIKE - it worked for Ghandi!

[-] 2 points by sufinaga (513) 3 years ago

sorry but you must be joking!?! we are already starving on the streets!

[-] 0 points by pinker (586) 3 years ago

Then you don't feel very strongly about the cause.

[-] 1 points by sufinaga (513) 3 years ago

BS! we must have a strategy to win. hunger strikes are IGNORED!! so it is NOT a helpful tactic just suicidal. you have been brutalised by BS. it was Ghandi alone who was effective and we have no leader. just deluded self appointed generals like yourself.

[-] 1 points by adamcdebaca (5) 3 years ago

website link seems to be down for me

[-] 1 points by Hamlet2086 (33) 3 years ago

Having eyes, see ye not? It's not really about parks.

Merely because some jobless, homeless Iraq War vets and other victims are sleeping unseen tonight in storage bins does not mean that they do not exist in large numbers or that their plights have ended.

Beware the smoke and mirrors. Because some Wizard of Oz bids you pay not attention to that man behind the curtain does not mean you are not being swindled of your right to a say in things.

The freedom of speech is made a mockery when those who can afford the loudest megaphones are the only ones being heard in public and dictating what goes down.

It is not the occupation of assorted parks which needs changing; it is rather the state of occupation of the public mind at large with great awareness of things of late gone arye and the need to rebalance systems to restore a workable order for the greater good for the many that must attain focus.

The U. S. Constitution does not begin: "We, the elitely wealthy funders of the government, in order to overrule the needs of the other 99.95%, do hereby establish and ordain some golden rule to the effect that whoever holds the gold rules."

A government that can be bought is not rightly called a democracy.

Stand up for the 99%.

Eyes upon the prize: Occupy the mind.

[-] 1 points by Hanna (4) from Brooklyn, NY 3 years ago

I think this movement already has had an affect and it is up to all of us to see however and wherever we can further it. Start with letters to legislators, corporations, newspapers, blogging, buying habits, energy use. Aim to establish an alternative culture in which we can meet our needs independently of the corporate culture. Alternative media of all kinds, living coops, starting companies as coops, food coops. Alternatives that creates community, interdependence among the 99% and withdraws that power over our lives of the 1%.

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[-] 1 points by alexrai (851) 3 years ago

Democracy: The thing people think they have, until they actually want to see a change.

Welcome to communism people; the place where the police do not have to obey court orders, but you do.

[-] 1 points by USCitizenVoter (720) 3 years ago

I want my votes to be counted. Do you? Can secret ballots can be used to manipulate the voting results by those that count the votes. Maybe the world has to stop the this type of voting in which each person's vote is kept secret, and then the amassed secret votes of various groups are revealed publicly. "LOL" A sheet of paper or a card and now a computor program are used to cast or register a vote, especially a secret one. Who is counting the total of all votes cast in an election. Probably some government official that has a vote of his or her own.

[-] -1 points by pinker (586) 3 years ago

You had a half million dollars. Can't you buy gauze with that?

[-] -1 points by Mrcity (-1) 3 years ago

Get out of the city and go home and get a job.. You voted for the nigger and now your mad

[-] -1 points by FriendlyObserver (-37) 3 years ago

May I share this with you.

the simple answer is to place a CAP on sales profit .. something that reflects federal interest rates .. the explanation is a little more complex .. let me try : the borrowed money that recently created the boom is mostly sitting in piles in the back rooms of corporate middlemen .. which they gained through enormous profits.. and now that there is very little borrowed money pouring into the economy .. including the government stimulus plan drying up .. the economy has recessed. Had there been a CAP on sales profits .. that money in the back rooms of corporations .. would still be in circulation .. creating jobs. It's really a correction in the mechanism , but one could also look at it as a CAP on greed .. either way .. it seems to correct the problem .. If implemented tonight .. retail prices would drop .. and we would immediately see an increase in sales .. and the rest is obvious.

A transparency law may be required: All retailers will display their cost price and profit will be added at the till.

ps. when we make a purchase we know how much we pay in sales tax but we do not know how much we pay in sales profit.

[-] 1 points by Farmer (1) from Winner, SD 3 years ago

Or how about...

An income transparency law. The government will declare how much YOU need to live off of...and you will be paid that amount and no more. Doesn't matter the job you have...your value will be determined by what someone else feels that you are worth.

[-] 0 points by Farmer (1) from Winner, SD 3 years ago

Seriously?

This is called socialistic communism. Why are there only 5 Socialist Lenin-Marxist nations left in the world? Because the model doesn't work. To arbitrarily put a cap on business is part of the problem...so is it to artificially inflate a market or "subsidize" "for the greater good".

Free market economies WORK! As soon as government gets involved...thats when problems start.

Business needs to fail. Survival of the fittest. If their business model cannot survive on its own merits then it should fail.

The whole "Sales profit" component is silly. The average NET profit for a gallon of gas at the retail pump is $.07. The government earns over $1 per gallon! FOR WHAT! That is not big business...that is the government stealing from YOU the consumer.

[-] 1 points by Hanna (4) from Brooklyn, NY 3 years ago

The US has a corporate welfare state, not a free market economy. GE made 14 billion last year, paid nothing intax and got 3 billion of our tax dollars back as a rebate anyway. They were not unique. All sorts of products from corn to oil have so many price supports it isn't even funny. Meanwhile we want to cut teachers, police and let our infrastructure crumble.

[-] 0 points by FriendlyObserver (-37) 3 years ago

The free market system has caused financial bankruptcy

[-] -1 points by VladimirMayakovsky (796) 3 years ago

Bring buckets! We need to shit!

[-] 1 points by FiddleDeedee (23) 3 years ago

Or you could use your baseball cap.

[-] -1 points by letmepost2 (-1) 3 years ago

r bloombergs terms unlimited now? i'd like to help and stand with this movement but find it hard to stand with no real agenda or "new constitution" for this global movement. Until this is done, your movement is done because it knows not what it does.

[-] -1 points by MayorBloomberg (1) 3 years ago

Occupy seems to want to demonize the police force, but can't we see this another way? When the black bloc create violence, Occupy defends itself by saying it is only the making of a few. When a few policemen are violent and shoot rubber bullets that are uncalled for, Occupy takes an exaggerated position and uses tanks to represent the police.

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 3 years ago

I hear you. with all the imagery flashing around, cooler, moderate heads are finding it hard to think.

[-] -2 points by Farmer (1) from Winner, SD 3 years ago

Wasteful, mindless lemmings.

99% of the OWS people I have spoken with cannot tell me what they are hoping to get out of all of this...they have no clear purpose or agenda.

Why has the OWS only shown up in big cities?

Because the urban environment breeds a sense of entitlement and self loathing. A victim mentality.

Try going out to the farms. Get up at 4am and finish your day at 8pm. Build something useful. Let your actions of production provide the proof of you intent. You want to build something...

BUILD IT.

I think of the thousands of man hours wasted and wonder if those hours and been spent in real production...what could they have effected in economic production?

I am a democrat...but not a socialist! I believe in hard work and opportunity.

People who lost their homes in housing bubble? Shame on you! If you were smart enough to figure out that you shouldn't/couldn't really afford to buy what you bought you wouldn't have lost your place. Cash out refinance? Seriously?

You made a deal with the devil for your soul...and when he asks you to pay the bill you call foul?

I guess if I had nothing better to do I would join you all down in the park. But the livestock needs to be fed. The fields need to be tended. If I don't get up and work...the 2 dozen people I employee would be out of a job. 25 years ago I started with 50 acres. Small. I saved out of college and got enough money to buy the land with CASH! NOT CREDIT.

I saved part of my profits and reinvested. I bought more land with CASH. I've never taken a bank loan and now own over 1500 acres. All bought for with profits of my hard work and cash.

People want it now and have no patience.

[-] 1 points by vnayar (289) from Brooklyn, NY 3 years ago

I don't see the connection between your working hard and then flinging pig-filth on the protestors. Lots of people work hard as hell. I've done nothing but work my butt off in school and at work, and the one month I didn't have a job in 2005, I was homeless. I have never taken a loan, never had a credit card, and do everything on cash. Save first, then buy only what you need.

Even so, students today are leaving school with $60,000 in debt. They haven't done anything different from you or I, the system itself is nothing like it was even as recently as 10 years ago.

People are willing and able to work hard. What, did you think that unemployment went from 4% to 9% in 2008 because everyone suddenly didn't feel like showing up to work?

Just as worker productivity has been skyrocketing, wages have been plummeting. All people want is a fair shake.

The real shame is that you are flinging your filth on people just like yourself. You could have found yourself in their shoes but for fortune. These days, a single sickness in the family, a divorce, a work accident, and you're out.

I donate what I can spare for these people. They're there, and they can give physical manifestation to the anger and resentment I have towards the dismantling of hard working families. When you insult them, you are insulting everyone they are carrying the flag for.

[-] 1 points by Farmer (1) from Winner, SD 3 years ago

No...a sickness, death or or divorce would not ruin my situation. I've done things like purchase insurance. I take full responsibility for my situation. $60,000 student loans? That's a choice. There are fine educational institutions across this country that people can choose to take advantage of...

I worked through college. Part time...barely minimum wage and paid my way. In my town there are many people and business's who are willing to hire people... but they have prospective employees tell them that they could make about the same on unemployment. Where's the pride or self sufficiency.

Typical victim mentality...always someone else's fault.

[-] 1 points by vnayar (289) from Brooklyn, NY 3 years ago

I think you misunderstood. I did the same thing as you did. I worked my way through school, paid all my bills, and then paid the remaining debt my first year out of school.

What I'm saying is that the world you and I grew up in is no longer there. I've been out of school for a number of years, but I decided to re-enroll to get a master's degree. I've been talking to my fellow students about their situation. They all think it's normal, but I know it's nothing like when I went to school.

These kids are working full-time jobs, every semester, and summer. Some are working two jobs. They are STILL coming out with $60,000 in debt. Granted, this is NYC which is more expensive than the national average. But the national average still is $15K in debt for students that graduate from public universities, and $40k in debt for those that went to private universities.

Something has gone seriously awry and it's not the fault of the students.

[-] 1 points by SHOWTIME4824 (2) 3 years ago

how much of the 20,000,000 in us taxpayer dollers did you suck up in subsidies last year farmer? my guess is a pretty penny.

[-] 1 points by Farmer (1) from Winner, SD 3 years ago

None. I've never accepted government money subsidies.

Although...I don't necessisarily agree with agriculture subsidies...I understand them...although the maximum agriculture subsidy is $40k per individual or $80k per couple.

Quite honestly I'd be happy to have the government remove those subsidies altogether. Then I can compete even better with those other folks who don't run their farm like I do.

I'd also be happy to just produce what we need locally...and let you city folks produce your own "organic" food.

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[-] -3 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

Why don't you use some of the donations you collected to put the occupiers up in hotels and buy the a good meal? What are you doing with the money?

[-] -3 points by MayorBloomberg (1) 3 years ago

The best thing you can do is go home. Its over. I dont mind you protesting, but you cant be making trouble in New York City and make it your "ground zero". I will not let that happen. Take your protest to Washington DC. You do no good by trashing out a public park. No one trusts someone who pisses on the sidewalk and wars against the city.

[-] 1 points by Typo (3) 3 years ago

Ooh, scary, he said "ground zero"! That makes me want to pray to an eagle crying in front of a flag and vote for Jesus! No one trusts someone who references 9/11 regardless of the topic. I move that "ground zero" and phrases like it should be Godwinized.

[-] 0 points by TH3W01F (180) from Ottawa, ON 3 years ago

And I suppose we are to respect a man who uses strategies that the late Ghadafi would have approved of?

Not bloody likely.

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