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Greetings from Occupied Wall Street,

Posted 3 years ago on Sept. 30, 2011, 5:06 a.m. EST by OccupyWallSt

Occupy Wall Street has recently come into the media spotlight, not because of our political message, but because certain high-ranking members of the NYPD punched, threw, and stepped on peaceful marchers. Arrestees were handcuffed so tight their hands turned blue. Many of these people have yet to regain feeling in their extremities. A senior police officer infamously forced women into pens and maced them at point-blank range. While we vehemently condemn these abuses of power, we urge all who read this to remain focused on our intended message. Abuse of power is abuse of power. Whether perpetrated by Wall Street bankers or members of the NYPD, it is the duty of all citizens to oppose injustice. We condemn the actions of unprofessional police who used excessive force in subduing a peaceful march. But we are foremost here to oppose the growing power of the ruling class.

Let us also be clear that, when approached as individuals, members of the NYPD have expressed solidarity with our cause. It has been inspiring to receive this support. Over these thirteen days, we have learned that no one supports corporations’ disproportionate influence in the political sphere. We have learned that no one is in favor of evicting struggling families to the street while banks continue to profit. No one, that is, except the corporations and banks. We urge members of the NYPD to remain in solidarity with our cause. These men and women could lose their pensions and benefits during the next round of budget cuts. We ask that members of the NYPD treat all peaceful human beings with respect and care. This will be a great step towards reclaiming power for the working class. Those who profit off the suffering of others will held accountable. We are the 99%, and we are too big to fail.

Tonight we march to One Police Plaza.

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[-] 4 points by hellbillyzg (4) 3 years ago

this must go global!! then we might have a chance!

[-] 4 points by creat3d (8) 3 years ago

It is going global :) http://occupytogether.org

Join your local occupation!

[-] 2 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

It's global already.

OWS, Congratulations on your decision to march to One Police Plaza, Tactically Freaking Brilliant, and right on time.

[-] 1 points by Anisa (2) from Tulare, CA 3 years ago

Raise taxes on the top 1%. Warren Buffet admitted that the super-rich has been coddled. He goes on to say in an article that back in 1992 the top 400 highest earning Americans paid 29.2% in taxes. In 2008 the top 400 earners paid 21.5% while the rest of us paid more. Buffet claims he paid 17.4% income tax in 2010 while his employees paid an average 36% income tax. Buffet recommends an immediate tax increase on those who make over $1 million (including dividend and capital gains) and additional taxes for those earning $10 million or more. We need to apply the “Buffet Rule” and increase the taxes on the top 1%.

Occupy Wall Street is getting a lot of media attention. The purpose needs to effect change. And what better way than to pass a tax plan that’s already on the table and waiting for Congress to vote it in. Raise taxes on the top 1%. Congress won’t pass it because they are in that 1%. Instead people are listening to Cain, Perry, and Romney talk about proposed tax plans that may or may not increase jobs but definitely increase taxes to the poor and middle income. It’s a Red Herring, they’re trying to detract the public from taxing the rich. If we tax the top 1% we can use that money and create the jobs.

Read what Buffet says about the top 1% in The New York Times, “Stop Coddling the Super-Rich” by Warren Buffet dated Aug. 14 2011. We are all inter-dependent.

[-] 1 points by geekygirl (2) 3 years ago

I am posting this as a reply because your posting system is all messed up. My new post is somewhere in the middle so it can't be found but things like the post above are at the top and is 25 days old.

I support your movement and am glad to see a group of people finally stand up and be counted. We the people are supposed to be running this country not the rich.

There is only one way to fix where we are and that is not to distribute the wealth. Socialism is not the answer.

The answer is to remove our current politians and quit electing career politians to represent us. They have never lived a normal life. They were raised and educated to be politians.

Being elected President or into any other political job should not be a paid position. They should do it because they want to help the people, not help themselves.

If our elected representatives do not represent our views, they should be removed from office immediately.

There should be no lobbyist with deep pockets. Politians who accept money or other perks from lobbyist should be removed from office immediately as this should be seen as a conflict of OUR interest.

We should not be paying our politians to serve. The founding fathers viewed it as an honor to serve the people not as a paying job.

On education, everyone is entitled to an education. I do not feel that this is a privilege but a right. We are far behind other countries educationally because so many of our people can not afford higher educations for themselves and their children. Higher education should be free for all or should the cost should be charged proportionate to income.

We should stop trading with foreign countries. If we are going to trade with foreign countries, then it should be even on both sides. Foreign trade should only be for goods and services that we can not produce in this country.

All off shore, outsourced jobs should be brought back into this country. There are plenty of people to do these jobs here. We would not have this out of proportion jobless rate if those jobs were brought back into our country.

Welfare and other subsidies should have caps on the amount of time these assistances can be drawn.

Federal taxes should be abolished or lowered to cover only the cost of federal programs.

I do not begrudge people who have worked hard to make their money, the right to have that money. It was our parents and their parents dream for us, that we could work hard and make a decent living.

Smaller government

No more career politians

No pay or nominal pay for politians

No lobbyist or accepting of money and perks from lobbyist

Reduce taxes to cover only the program and not the people who administer it

Fair trade or no foreign trade

Bring all outsourced, off shore jobs back to the US

Make higher education affordable

Put caps on the amount of time that someone can receive welfare and other assistance

Stay out of other countries politics

Quit sending money to other counries, we have plenty of poor and downtrodden here we can help

No more federal bailouts of banks and other institutions. If they fail, they fail. It is the way of business and of life.

The 99% needs a message, a consistant message. Not a message that says give me this or give me that but a message that will unite the people and the country and provide a viable option to what we have now. If we do not provide an alternative that makes sense, we will not be taken seriously no matter how many protests are held, no matter how many areas we occupy.

These are the things that I propose.

[-] 1 points by rustylyan (12) 3 years ago

yeah, I agree It`s a real chance that we can go to the global then we can live fairly

[-] 0 points by geepers (1) 3 years ago

get a job and then you can pay your own way in life - thats called living fairly

[-] 1 points by soloenbarcelona (199) from Barcelona, CT 3 years ago

Its global but we have to reach a big % of the 99%

Everyone simply has to wake up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNElKmNNVe4

[-] 0 points by sympathetic (1) 3 years ago

Please send money so I may join you. Some of mine would be fine. Get a llife and quit whining.

[-] 0 points by geepers (1) 3 years ago

Get a job lazy fool

[-] 2 points by Krankie (140) 3 years ago

In my job, I travel all over the world, and the universal opinion is that Americans are fat, dumb, lazy, and have their heads stuck where the sun don't shine. And it is people like you that make it impossible for me to prove that they are wrong.

Oh, and, by the way, I have a job, and I am in the 1%. That doesn't mean that I am blind to what is happening in our country.

[-] 1 points by bewarren (1) 3 years ago

Clearly that's exactly what it means.

[-] 0 points by Cancelcurrency (72) from Anchorage, AK 3 years ago

Good answer to all dumb and low class from 99%, Krankie! Looks like you are putting your patriotism, intelligence and reputation as american, higher than your money! I think it is stupid to do opposite like geepers does. Because if we loose our country or economy, what then our money good for? To pay chinese with it to learn their language so you can ask chinese boss for a job? Ha-ha!

[-] 3 points by Kore12 (3) 3 years ago

Demands

  1. Capitalism for Everyone (Tee Hee, watch Conservatives argue against that one!) We want our hard earned capital back. Only the top 10% have ownership. A 1:1 relationship is not necessary. People need enough income to meet cost of living plus 30% minimum. The top 10% need no more than 30% of capital.

  2. Tax the top 10%, we must have the revenue to grow our economy, support the poor and unemployed and pay on our national debt. Tax major large corporations including their foreign accounts. Do this with a price freeze and labor freeze (no lay offs); they can only lower pay for top execs or lower investment payouts. This is a stipulation, not a wish.

  3. National Debt Write Off Any debt we owe to American banks, investors and major bond holders gets written off equal to the total amount of bank bailouts. All the bailouts, not just the last ones.
  4. Taxpayer war rebate. All we got for our investment was higher gas prices and dead relatives. Since war is a major cause of national debt we demand that our tax dollars be repaid by the companies that benefited financially from the war in Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq. Oil companies, construction companies, telecommunications companies etc. as well as the military industries themselves. We need to make war not so profitable. All the money we put out is income for somebody! We need this money to pay on the national debt and to take care of our Veterans.
  5. Portfolio Adjustment Mandate. From now on everyone’s stock portfolio must have a reasonable ratio of
  6. Local Community Investment
  7. Regional and/or statewide investment
  8. National Investment 50% of investments must be in industries that we need to develop in order to Develop a sustainable economy. This can be temporary and adjusted as needed. Investments would be in areas like farming, green industry, which includes alternative, renewables, clean, training, education, ect.
  9. Basic Human Needs are Not for Toy! No more trading and investments above what the industry actually needs for Food, Housing and Medical.
  10. The International Monetary Exchange industry should be a non-profit enterprise.
  11. New Corporate Law. No more investor payout as legal obligation. Businesses must all adopt the triple bottom line of People, Planet and Profit as their legal obligation for the right to do business.
  12. Address the Revolving Door of business and government.

Send your demands to the Wall St. reform committee and the budget committee.
Get Bernie Sanders or Dennis Kucinich to speak for you in congress and read out your demands.

Everything is possible. Everything is necessary. Specific demands play their part by transformimg frustration into positive, measurable realities that people can be held accountable to.

Go For It!!!! One Love, Kore

[-] 1 points by Robespierre (89) 3 years ago

Number 1 on your list is what's called "wealth redistribution."

You don't really need to go much farther than that. The essential point to realize is that any kind of wealth redistribution already requires a revolution in power structures -- and, moreover, any kind of consciousness of wealth distribution requires a revolution in awareness. Note that neither media nor politicians ever discuss wealth inequality (only income equality); it's totally outside the consciousness of Americans.

With the revolution necessary to accomplish wealth redistribution accomplished, it should not be difficult to come up with various other policies to manage this new revolutionary regime.

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

very well thought out, I agree.

[-] 1 points by BlogMakeover (29) 3 years ago

This is a list from "The Venus Project" about the world they vision and what they feel should be demanded, look "The Venus Project" up: 1. Recognizing the world's resources as the common heritage of all Earth's people.

  1. Transcending the artificial boundaries that separate people.

  2. Evolving from money-based, nationalistic economies to a resource-based world economy.

  3. Assisting in stabilizing the world's population through education and voluntary birth control in order to conform to the carrying capacity of Earth's resources.

  4. Reclaiming and restoring the natural environment to the best of our ability.

  5. Redesigning our cities, transportation systems, agricultural industries, and industrial plants so that they are energy efficient, clean, and able to conveniently serve the needs of all people.

  6. Sharing and applying new technologies for the benefit of all nations.

  7. Developing and using clean and renewable energy sources.

  8. Manufacturing the highest quality products for the benefit of the world's people.

  9. Requiring environmental impact studies prior to construction of any mega projects.

  10. Encouraging the widest range of creativity and incentive toward constructive endeavor.

  11. Outgrowing nationalism, bigotry, and prejudice through education.

  12. Outgrowing any type of elitism, technical or otherwise.

  13. Arriving at methodologies through careful research, rather than from mere opinions.

  14. Enhancing communication in schools so that our language corresponds to the actual physical nature of the world.

  15. Providing not only the necessities of life, but also offering challenges that stimulate the mind while emphasizing individuality over uniformity.

  16. Finally, preparing people intellectually and emotionally for the changes and challenges that lie ahead.

[-] 1 points by occupythegreenparty (157) 3 years ago

Did you just watch Zeitgeist Moving Forward too?

[-] 3 points by Richard (12) 3 years ago

Tottaly agree with Eric , dont be bothered if you have different views how to solve problems . The formula will emerge in process. Keep in mind to make visionary step you have to move to unexpirienced , nothing before can give you a clue how to desing tommoorow . People of other part of world is watching you. America was founder of democracy in time of absolute monarchies. Now world need that sleepy spirit of your nation to awake and lead us again. You are the avant guarde . Free people , not politicians.

[-] 1 points by deniality (3) 3 years ago

newbie on the internet please correct spelling and translate, no more time available for me now to carry on ,will try and contribute,further in future ,if I am still free!and alive! have been working my whole flippin life only to be in deeper financial trouble ,without having spent any on luxuries,but it is not only for me, reality is we :normal citizens in many parts of the world are having a really tough time,find solutions ,be proactive,be constructive ,be realistic,be humble ,but don't be a sheep,get those blinds off yer eyes ...right get a job --where ? start your own ,and have it all stolen,over and over ,and burnt down have your family property devalued become poor ! right who is the lazy fool now ? see fellow citizens starve and kill each other dirty politics are failing yipeeeee

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sr1koMsgt0JA0dbbpPRw18UfnxIXa8b9kSeYJsWOhis/edit

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

Exactly, the whole world is watching and waiting for the "left wing" and the "right wing" to at least momentarily declare a truce and focus on their common enemy, we are waiting for a "forward wing", a third position to emerge in the US. After the banksters are done with, if you want, keep going at it.

[-] 1 points by rashmontague (1) 3 years ago

The right wing is the problem! They are brainwashed by the wealthy, and they are uneducated! Nothing will ever progress with the human race until we deal with the right wing peasants! They elected George W. Bush twice. They support the wars of the rich.They are either rich themselves, or they are working class, redneck morons,or religious nuts, who buy into the propaganda of the ruling class!They keep drugs illegal, because the wealthy tell them that drugs are immoral, so that the lawyers, judges, and private prison systems can make money. Ronald Reagan made it legal for employers to test people for drugs in 1988, which was part of the war against the left. Sorry folks but left wing intellectuals smoke grass!So much talent is being wasted in this country due to this. Socialism can only work when we achieve zero population growth, or else the rich will always have slaves for their factories, and cannon fodder, and hired murderers to ensure their domination of the natural resources(oil, natural gas, etc.)of the world. When the Saudi Royals are destroyed ,then the people of this planet will come after the oil despots of this country!

[-] 1 points by cvasq (12) 3 years ago

they made legal to test for drugs so you can filter through drug addicts, this whole site is full of rhetoric, such famous quotes "we are the 99% and we are too rich to fail"
if you have half a brain you can figure out how to do business in this country easier than most countries in this world.

. You want to talk about slaves? How about this one from the left, I work hard I earn a paycheck, i pay for my insurance through this job i have, I don't own a house, i rent. Now I also pay all of my taxes. The same left would like to raise my taxes and "redistribute" that to people who aren't working, may have even have given up on looking for a job. Here's my point you guys on the left (to be clear I'm a moderate I disagree with MANY things on the right as well) DOESN'T THAT MAKE ME A SLAVE FOR THOSE PEOPLE?

Why are you guys always pushing socialism? WE HAVE A SOCIALIST STRUCTURE NOW AND ITS NOT WORKING. My evidence is 1. medicare (welfare) =broke 2. medical (welfare) = broke 3. our AMERICAN military (not paid crap for what they do give up there rights for protect ours) (social enlistment, sense of "duty")= socialist and broke 4. The politicians elected paid by the government= ripping us off and socialist (These same idiots would be in charge and yo would make them your ruling class still) THEY SHOULD NOT BE PAID ADS SHOULD BE PAID BY TAXES AND NO OTHER FUNDING Here's another question for you guys

How many of you with these 100,000 dollar education debts have degrees in ARTS, HISTORY, ENGLISH, are out there complaining that you can't find a job and can't pay off these loans and want the government to pay for your debts? TO THOSE OF YOU WHO FIT THIS DESCRIPTION:

  1. WTF were you thinking that you could find a job with degrees like this?
  2. DO you really think that any of us give a crap that you have a huge debt to pay off with a stupid degree that wouldn't help you get a job?
  3. NO WE DON'T IT'S NOT OUR FAULT YOU COULDN'T PLAN AHEAD FIGURE SOMETHING ELSE OUT we aren't your parents to clean up your mess and maybe that debt is the spanking your parents should have given you when you growing up to learn that you have to take care of yourself and deal with the consequences of your life.

ALSO for the money money part why don't you try running for office and get crap done if you think that your movement is doing anything then get people elected, f enough people are behind you then it shouldn't be a problem

DON'T expect everyone else to have to go with what this movement is doing not all of us agree with it. So what are you gonna do when people disagree with you do you think it's all about you or everyone in this country. You guys might be screaming "we will be heard" but please remember that doesn't mean your the only voice or the only voice that's right

. with respect thank you PS. I do believe that things can change but I challenge your movement to find people that won't be swayed by the money that are complaining of. I remember how everyone was going with the rhetoric of Obama. I hope you all remember that things don't change over night. I also think that you guys should get out of wall street and go straight to washington to get change. People still need to do business and your business is better handled at the capital of our great nation MANY OF THE CHANGES YOU PROPOSE ARE GOOD ONES; BUT I ALSO THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO WORK ON YOUR APPROACH WITH THE PUBLIC, YOU GUYS USE WHAT SOUNDS LIKE TO MOST PEOPLE JUST RHETORIC AND BTW A PEACEFUL PROTEST ALSO INVOLVE DOING AS THE POLICE SAY, GET ARRESTED LET THEM TAKE YOU. IF YOU RESIST THEM THEY ARE IN EVERY RIGHT TO GET YOU TO GET BACK EVERY VIDEO I'VE SEEN OF YOU GUYS HAD THE PERSON WHO GOT PULLED IN OR HIT OR SPRAYED BY THE COPS MOVING INTO THERE LINE. THEY ARE THERE TO STOP A RIOT WHICH AN UGLY MOB CAN EASILY TURN INTO TO.

THAT IS YOUR BIGGEST PROBLEM YOU GUYS APPEAR TO BE NOTHING MORE THAN A MOB AND THAT CAN GET UGLY REALLY FAST

[-] 1 points by HardWorkinDaddy (6) 3 years ago

You are a slave to the rich who pay a lower percentage of their income in taxes than you do. BTW I'm going to school to be a programmer because it is an in demand skill. You are right about the police and the rhetoric. But you are wrong about the socialist structure. Its failing cause the 1% don't pay the same % as you do in taxes. Its also failing because our wages are so low compared to a REAL socialist country. $7.25 404= $1200 a month gross. most minimum wage jobs don't give you forty hours. ALL minimum wage jobs are hard and demeaning. Welfare is a less than that, but you aren't made to work when you're sick, or on most all holidays. I the UK minimum wage is twice ours, so they have less people on welfare. they also FORCE employers to give sick days. Did you know that ALL restaurants unoffically enforce working when sick to the point of termination?

[-] 1 points by cvasq (12) 3 years ago

where did you get the termination quote from? show me the evidence

[-] 1 points by cvasq (12) 3 years ago

yes thats why UK is so strong right now so the numbers are higher in pay so is their tax rate and their rent. If you're gonna look at the numbers look at the percentage as well

UK unemployment rose by 114,000 between June and August to 2.57 million - a 17-year high, according to official figures.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said the unemployment rate also increased to 8.1%.

The unemployment total for 16-24 year olds hit a record high of 991,000 in the quarter, a jobless rate of 21.3%."http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10604117

most jobs from UK get shipped to india they're cheaper

in the US it's 9.1% overall and in the youth is at, "The youth unemployment rate declined by 1.0 percentage point over the year to 18.1 percent in July 2011"

so they aren't coin much better.

taxes in UK: " Income Tax Rates top of page
2011 - 12 Starting rate for savings 10% £0 - £2,560 Basic tax rate 20% £0 - 35,000 Higher tax rate 40% Over £35,000 Additional rate 50% Over £150,000"

http://www.scopulus.co.uk/taxsheets/

do your homework its not better over there

i still get to choose my job with this structure the communist one i'm sure would be quick to tell me which one

i'd rather work for the rich they pay better than you guys

[-] 1 points by cvasq (12) 3 years ago

i will be amazed if i get a good reply on this

[-] 1 points by nkp (33) 3 years ago

Why exactly do you want socialism, it is the downfall of the American Republic. And taking into account the left wingers smoking weed, I am no longer surprised at the thought lacking ideas those turds think of

[-] 1 points by HardWorkinDaddy (6) 3 years ago

Because all people deserve to be fed, educated and given a minimum of health care.If we don't do that, we really should practice euthanasia to keep the population down

[-] 1 points by TheHumanoidTyphoon (30) from Coral Springs, FL 3 years ago

Yet the beginning of the American Democracy. How anyone can be opposed to giving healthcare to everyone (yes maybe it will go to someone undeserving but in general it will go to people who do deserve it). Maybe we should get rid of firemen unless you can afford them??

[-] 1 points by deniality (3) 3 years ago

imagination is responsible for most inventions get with it newbie on the internet please correct spelling and translate, no more time available for me now to carry on ,will try and contribute,further in future ,if I am still free!and alive! have been working my whole flippin life only to be in deeper financial trouble ,without having spent any on luxuries,but it is not only for me, reality is we :normal citizens in many parts of the world are having a really tough time,find solutions ,be proactive,be constructive ,be realistic,be humble ,but don't be a sheep,get those blinds off yer eyes ...right get a job --where ? start your own ,and have it all stolen,over and over ,and burnt down have your family property devalued become poor ! right who is the lazy fool now ? see fellow citizens starve and kill each other dirty politics are failing yipeeeee,see your own family members ,yep .... all because of political mental poisoning.Perceptions can drive us apart,the case of the Iraqi baby that was adopted grew up in America, did not know ,who did this person hate ,it wasn't the Americans,get a wake up !

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sr1koMsgt0JA0dbbpPRw18UfnxIXa8b9kSeYJsWOhis/edit

[-] 1 points by Chicakasaw (2) from Alvarado, TX 3 years ago

Fools there is no right wing no left wing! There is only the 99 % and the world banksters! As long as you fight among yourselves and think the elections are real this will continue! It is a big puppet show and you are the fluoridated masses that just keep saying the same stupid stuff. WAKE UP read the constitution, Understand the Common Law, inform your self about fractional reserve banking, Know the difference between a Constitutional Republic and a communist fascist socialist democracy! Unconstitutional ABC bureaucracies that suppress us all and keep us in slavery to the banking elite! WOW wake up learn the real truth and that truth will set you free!

[-] 1 points by cvasq (12) 3 years ago

RHETORIC is all you have written here sir no real information

[-] 1 points by thagood (4) 3 years ago

If you're waiting for the right to do that, you've got a long wait!

[-] 2 points by Fluffles (18) 3 years ago

How about putting pressure on the Southern Poverty Law Center, which ostensibly monitors hate groups, to declare the NYPD a hate group?

No one can do what they have done without an authoritarian ideology in place to dispel feelings of guilt. These cops are no better than Skinheads.

[-] 2 points by themessage (3) 3 years ago

The media keeps asking what the message is, or reporting that the message is vague. We need to nudge and encourage the media to do some of their own reading, investigating, and evaluating instead of just looking to repeat what protesters or representatives might say (the way they currently tend to simply repeat what a spokesperson, lobbyist, politician, and so forth say on the air, in print, or in public).

Those in the media are part of the 99%, as are their viewers, so they owe it to the viewers to figure out what part of the protesters' message has merit and substance, and choose what they believe to be is the most important story. Everyone that talks to the media needs to repeat this every time they are given a chance to speak. Look up the demands as they are listed across all the Occupy websites, examine them, investigate them, and report!

[-] 1 points by atheve3 (34) 3 years ago

We need a strong middle class. That is what made us strong in the first place. Without a powerful strong middle class, the 1% will always take over. The older America gets, the more history repeats itself and corruption sets in. We can make a difference the old fashion way. Through grass roots, we can grow a strong movement just like the middle east is doing. Power to the middle class!!!

[-] 2 points by gjpc (10) from San Francisco, CA 3 years ago

Keeping on subject, Cornell U published a paper ( http://arxiv.org/abs/1107.5728 ) that zeros in on the 147 greediest companies in the world that dominate all world markets. There is now empirical evidence that the 99% are correctly protesting something that is definable and can be controlled by democratic governments. The 99% must, through democratic peaceful action regain control of our government from these 147 entities and establish a more humanitarian, peaceful world. The 99% can no longer tolerate greed being the dominant force in the world.

Here is the abstract: The structure of the control network of transnational corporations affects global market competition and financial stability. So far, only small national samples were studied and there was no appropriate methodology to assess control globally. We present the first investigation of the architecture of the international ownership network, along with the computation of the control held by each global player. We find that transnational corporations form a giant bow-tie structure and that a large portion of control flows to a small tightly-knit core of financial institutions. This core can be seen as an economic “super-entity” that raises new important issues both for researchers and policy makers.

[-] 2 points by tdsisti (80) from Austin, TX 3 years ago

While wealth disparity is real, the bottom 99% still have varying degrees of economic experience. People want something tangible and practicable and while demonstrations are key, it is not sustainable because it is a monoculture in and of itself. The message has to be broader, more inclusive, and appeal to people outside of the major metropolitan areas who are also struggling badly.

[-] 2 points by tdsisti (80) from Austin, TX 3 years ago

As I understand it, most of the big banks are not on Wall Street anymore and that there is limited visibility of the protestors therefore. While it is unfortunate that the cops are reacting with brutality and totally uncalled for, it is also unfortunate that this is the major thing that the demonstration is being recognized for the police brutality. If there is a thing worth demanding and opening people's minds up to, it's a Guaranteed Basic Income, so that people have access to the money they need to survive and can do work in the communities that need help, with teaching, agriculture, infrastructure repair. There is so much weightless talk about jobs creation when if a fraction of what we are spending on wars was offered to people in their own communities, people would have a viable means of not only surviving, but thriving and helping their communities to thrive.

[-] 1 points by occupythegreenparty (157) 3 years ago

WRONG! when your brothers and sisters get arrested you are obligated to go and make sure they are treated well. The crowd went to get King and Malcolm X brought a crowd to get one of his "boys" out. That's the protection of the non-violent movement.

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

No, Police are a tactical target to flip to our side, OWS is doing good, imagine a police force that pretends to work, that sabotages the counter-protest actions, imagine a police group joining OWS.

Once Police is on our side, the yes, Golman Sachs sounds viable.

[-] 1 points by atheve3 (34) 3 years ago

I agree!!!

[-] 1 points by Robespierre (89) 3 years ago

Those links destroyed the layout of the entire discussion in my browser... [EDIT: and now it's fixed, good job, whoever did that, however you did it!]

[-] 2 points by jillturn (2) 3 years ago

Today this news made me weep. I will be there tomorrow.

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

Shame is a revolutionary feeling, en economist said.

[-] 2 points by creat3d (8) 3 years ago

Have a look around. Everywhere, you guys have brought about very passionate discussions about what needs to be done, what doesn't... very few agree and it is beautiful. You guys have initiated a worldwide debate that will never "end" but will bring about so much change and it hasn't even really started yet.

The world thanks you for it, whether they know it yet or not. I know it and words fail me to express how deep this all goes, how far reaching impacts it will have (as it already is) and all that will be accomplished in the coming days, weeks, months, years. You are making, right this moment, an indelible impact on the history of humanity.

It was beautiful watching you, from afar, come together and overcome what you had to so far. It is beautiful watching you keep it going and it is remarkable to see it grow so much.

I will keep watching, but won't be able to as much as I will have to do my part locally. We will take to the streets in my city on October 15th, along with so many across the globe, both in support of you and in support of us all. We will all rise and come together as a united front, created by and for the people, and don't you silly americans ever forget that some little park in NYC's financial district was the spark that ignited us all. This isn't the "American Spring"... the "Arab Spring" was only the very beginning of the Freedom Years.

I thank you from the bottom of my heart for what you have done for me, my daughter and all of us 99 percenters.

This has been a long time coming... there's no turning back now and this is too big to fail.

Thank you, Eric

[-] 1 points by atheve3 (34) 3 years ago

Thank you for participating in the forum.

[-] 1 points by Usuk1 (1) 2 years ago

What a bunch of fucking idiots. Compete waste of space!!! You people are disgusting trash. A cancer to society. I want to throw-up every time I here the news wasting time on you. Get a life and do something productive. You've caused enough problems. It's time to go away!

[-] 1 points by climber3 (1) 2 years ago

Since we payed taxes for this area to exist, how is it we can be evicted from this area? Don

[-] 1 points by climber (1) 2 years ago

Start from scratch! Don't buy products from over seas! ( Don't allow imports from companies who left us) Start a new America! We have all the things we need here! Start new Wall-marts, G.E.s etc.! We have the people to do these jobs, and recreate America! We don't need the companies that created America and left for slave labor! We have the resources we have always had ! Tare down your tents and start a new America! The word will will wonder what happened to the O.W.S., but they will learn that we started America and plan to Stay America!!!!!

[-] 1 points by brod (3) 2 years ago

PLEASE PASS THIS ON! Tell friends and family members to use their smartphones, ipads, laptops and computers to sign the Occupy Wall Street Demands List Petition to Congress!

You can sign at: www.OccupyWallStreetDemands.net.

[-] 1 points by mtwea (1) 2 years ago

The thing to understand here is that governments are now powerless to do ANYTHING about banks and big business. Banks and Insurance company's and others in NORTH AMERICA and abroad are how organised crime have converted their riches to so called legitimate business. They have more money than government and for people to be allowed in office the must follow THEIR rules, not the other way around. The people are kept taxed and drained of most of their money for a reason, to insure they CANNOT mount an effective opposition to either banks. insurance or their appointed government. The media is also controlled and pound home the idea that government, insurance and banks are somehow there for YOU. They also glorify police who are really there to keep the people down and collect revenue both to add to the coffers of the rich AND keep money out of the hands of ANYONE who may form any sort or resistance. Good luck on trying to fight this now, you are 50 years too late. Nothing short of a full revolution will ever work.

[-] 1 points by sabran74 (7) 2 years ago

The policy and police is not synonymous , Policy in democracy determined by people , People have two side , One who policy influence get favor of its policy use to work in side the wall to run the policy , Other whose policy not get influence the favor they use to stand outside the wall to continue their influencing their policy and exposing the substances and facts of materials influenced, used by them’ who is working in side the wall ,

All the assets of democratic country meant for all those , either in side or out side the wall , who want to work in policy and want to go for public influence ,desirous to enforce its right of freedom of speech , fundamental basic right to speak without targeting individual privacy .

It is not the police to decide which is rightful policy , The police duty restricted to provide secured , harmonic atmosphere fearless environment and fair opportunity for peaceful policy preacher in all national assets places either who is inside or who is out side rest of the rule to accommodate fairly for placing the all individual policy ,

If police is working for group either of group who is inside the wall and out side the wall both are wrong , and distorting the democracy and its democratic constitution ,

So police must ensure in the case of people working for its policy , then he should maintain they should not physically intercept on each other and allow and facilitate both side to fearlessly demonstrate their policy .

[-] 1 points by brod (3) 2 years ago

Many are saying that the Occupy Wall Street movement was not spontaneous, but rather instigated by "external forces" namely, the George Soros groups and labor unions. The movement may not have been spontaneous, but let's not forget to include the EXTERNAL FORCES that have devastated our economic system, outsourced millions of American jobs and turned the "American Dream" into a nightmare. The OWS List of Demands is a natural reaction necessary for our survival as a nation. They constitute items necessary for the repair, restoration and protection of our rights as American citizens, and what is needed to reverse the mass injustice done to our economic system and our country, due to corporate greed and corrupt government officials. The list of demands has also been posted at: http://www.OccupyWallStreetDemands.net. The mission, purpose and procedure for working together with our "elected government officials" to solve these national issues can be viewed at: www.AmericasBallotBox.com. Let's work together and get this done using this NEW tool for OWS Protesters! Use your smartphones, ipads and laptops to sign the OWS Demand List Petition to congress at: www.OccupyWallStreetDemands.net. Spread the word!

[-] 1 points by Thayabharan (34) 2 years ago

We essentially have had modern-day bank robbers -- except that they wore gray suits and not masks -- and there's been no accountability for it Every day we see energy speculators, war profiteers, managed health-care providers, media propagandists, and/or financiers of Wall Street given some unfair advantage over the average consumers and taxpayers, and the cumulative effect of the American people watching selfishness prevail over the public interest has been an undermining of the public's trust in government. There's no question the system is rigged against the little guy. The Wall Street interests have a lot more information. They jerry-rig the system so that they always win. Oligarchy is political power based on economic power. And it's the rise of the Wall Street in economic terms, that it'd turn into political power. And Wall Street then feed that back into more deregulation, more opportunities to go out and take reckless risks and-- and capture huge amounts of money. The American democracy was not given to us on a platter. It is not ours for all time, irrespective of our efforts. Either people organize and they find political leadership to take this on, or we are going to be in big trouble. That's absolutely the heart of the problem. I would also say and tell you, and emphasize, these Wall Street people will not come out and debate with us. The heads of Wall Street or their representatives, they will not come out. They're afraid. They don't have the substance. They don't have the arguments. We have the evidence. They have the lobbyists. And that's all they have. Wall Street Corporations don't make anything. They don't produce anything. They gamble and bet and speculate. And when they lose vast sums they raid the U.S. Treasury so they can go back and do it again. Never mind that $50 trillion in global wealth was erased between September 2007 and March 2009, including $7 trillion in the U.S. stock market and $6 trillion in the housing market. Never mind that the total amount of retirement and household wealth trashed was $7.5 trillion or that we saw $2 trillion in 401(k)s and individual retirement accounts evaporate. Never mind the $1.9 trillion in traditional defined-benefit plans and the $2.6 trillion in nonpension assets that went up in smoke. Never mind the job losses, the foreclosures and the 35 percent jump in personal and small-business bankruptcies. There are bundles of new money, taken again from us, to make deals and hand out outrageous bonuses. And when these trillions run out they will come back for more until our currency becomes junk

---Nalliah Thayabharan

[-] 1 points by Kstub (8) 2 years ago

We should focus our attension on Goldmans Sachs. They are the kingpin of Wallstreet. Most of our politicians have been bought off. The ones that haven't are powerless to do anything. I am hoping that Germany has the guts to sue them for bringing down Greece. We should short the stock the way they shorted our market in 2008. How many people lost money at the hands of these mega wallstreet firms. Ask anyone who owns a home how they like losing 40% of the equity in the homes they live in. How is it that several trillion dollars have vanished from our 401ks and personal assets and no one has gone to jail. If corporations want to be seen as individuals then they should be held accountable for the inmoral acts that they do. Goldman owns the casino that is Wallstreet.

[-] 1 points by Kstub (8) 2 years ago

We should focus our attension on Goldmans Sachs. They are the kingpin of Wallstreet. Most of our politicians have been bought off. The ones that haven't are powerless to do anything. I am hoping that Germany has the guts to sue them for bringing down Greece. We should short the stock the way they shorted our market in 2008. How many people lost money at the hands of these mega wallstreet firms. Ask anyone who owns a home how they like losing 40% of the equity in the homes they live in. How is it that several trillion dollars have vanished from our 401ks and personal assets and no one has gone to jail. If corporations want to be seen as individuals then they should be held accountable for the inmoral acts that they do. Goldman owns the casino that is Wallstreet.

[-] 1 points by Kstub (8) 2 years ago

We should focus our attension on Goldmans Sachs. They are the kingpin of Wallstreet. Most of our politicians have been bought off. The ones that haven't are powerless to do anything. I am hoping that Germany has the guts to sue them for bringing down Greece. We should short the stock the way they shorted our market in 2008. How many people lost money at the hands of these mega wallstreet firms. Ask anyone who owns a home how they like losing 40% of the equity in the homes they live in. How is it that several trillion dollars have vanished from our 401ks and personal assets and no one has gone to jail. If corporations want to be seen as individuals then they should be held accountable for the inmoral acts that they do. Goldman owns the casino that is Wallstreet.

[-] 1 points by Kstub (8) 2 years ago

We should focus our attension on Goldmans Sachs. They are the kingpin of Wallstreet. Most of our politicians have been bought off. The ones that haven't are powerless to do anything. I am hoping that Germany has the guts to sue them for bringing down Greece. We should short the stock the way they shorted our market in 2008. How many people lost money at the hands of these mega wallstreet firms. Ask anyone who owns a home how they like losing 40% of the equity in the homes they live in. How is it that several trillion dollars have vanished from our 401ks and personal assets and no one has gone to jail. If corporations want to be seen as individuals then they should be held accountable for the inmoral acts that they do. Goldman owns the casino that is Wallstreet.

[-] 1 points by Kstub (8) 2 years ago

We should focus our attension on Goldmans Sachs. They are the kingpin of Wallstreet. Most of our politicians have been bought off. The ones that haven't are powerless to do anything. I am hoping that Germany has the guts to sue them for bringing down Greece. We should short the stock the way they shorted our market in 2008. How many people lost money at the hands of these mega wallstreet firms. Ask anyone who owns a home how they like losing 40% of the equity in the homes they live in. How is it that several trillion dollars have vanished from our 401ks and personal assets and no one has gone to jail. If corporations want to be seen as individuals then they should be held accountable for the inmoral acts that they do. Goldman owns the casino that is Wallstreet.

[-] 1 points by Kstub (8) 2 years ago

We should focus our attension on Goldmans Sachs. They are the kingpin of Wallstreet. Most of our politicians have been bought off. The ones that haven't are powerless to do anything. I am hoping that Germany has the guts to sue them for bringing down Greece. We should short the stock the way they shorted our market in 2008. How many people lost money at the hands of these mega wallstreet firms. Ask anyone who owns a home how they like losing 40% of the equity in the homes they live in. How is it that several trillion dollars have vanished from our 401ks and personal assets and no one has gone to jail. If corporations want to be seen as individuals then they should be held accountable for the inmoral acts that they do. Goldman owns the casino that is Wallstreet.

[-] 1 points by Kstub (8) 2 years ago

We should focus our attension on Goldmans Sachs. They are the kingpin of Wallstreet. Most of our politicians have been bought off. The ones that haven't are powerless to do anything. I am hoping that Germany has the guts to sue them for bringing down Greece. We should short the stock the way they shorted our market in 2008. How many people lost money at the hands of these mega wallstreet firms. Ask anyone who owns a home how they like losing 40% of the equity in the homes they live in. How is it that several trillion dollars have vanished from our 401ks and personal assets and no one has gone to jail. If corporations want to be seen as individuals then they should be held accountable for the inmoral acts that they do. Goldman owns the casino that is Wallstreet.

[-] 1 points by Kstub (8) 2 years ago

We should focus our attension on Goldmans Sachs. They are the kingpin of Wallstreet. Most of our politicians have been bought off. The ones that haven't are powerless to do anything. I am hoping that Germany has the guts to sue them for bringing down Greece. We should short the stock the way they shorted our market in 2008. How many people lost money at the hands of these mega wallstreet firms. Ask anyone who owns a home how they like losing 40% of the equity in the homes they live in. How is it that several trillion dollars have vanished from our 401ks and personal assets and no one has gone to jail. If corporations want to be seen as individuals then they should be held accountable for the inmoral acts that they do. Goldman owns the casino that is Wallstreet.

[-] 1 points by geenee (5) 2 years ago

How about we as Americans do something constructive besides picket. Lets take all of our money out of the banks. A run on the banks. The banks would not be able to invest in stock or anything. That would make them lower their rates if they don't go under. There are more poor people than rich so pulling our money out would hurt them. Also how about if for 1 week all of us in America stopped buying gasoline. How much money do you think those crooks who run OPEC would lose? Millions!!!! The problem is Americans don't stick together. Look what the people in Libya did by sticking together. Lets Stick together America and do something that will really get our point across. Standing around hasn't hurt them or changed anything. Just a Thought!!!!!!!

[-] 1 points by geenee (5) 2 years ago

How about we as Americans do something constructive besides picket. Lets take all of our money out of the banks. A run on the banks. The banks would not be able to invest in stock or anything. That would make them lower their rates if they don't go under. There are more poor people than rich so pulling our money out would hurt them. Also how about if for 1 week all of us in America stopped buying gasoline. How much money do you think those crooks who run OPEC would lose? Millions!!!! The problem is Americans don't stick together. Look what the people in Libya did by sticking together. Lets Stick together America and do something that will really get our point across. Standing around hasn't hurt them or changed anything. Just a Thought!!!!!!!

[-] 1 points by geenee (5) 2 years ago

How about we as Americans do something constructive besides picket. Lets take all of our money out of the banks. A run on the banks. The banks would not be able to invest in stock or anything. That would make them lower their rates if they don't go under. There are more poor people than rich so pulling our money out would hurt them. Also how about if for 1 week all of us in America stopped buying gasoline. How much money do you think those crooks who run OPEC would lose? Millions!!!! The problem is Americans don't stick together. Look what the people in Libya did by sticking together. Lets Stick together America and do something that will really get our point across. Standing around hasn't hurt them or changed anything. Just a Thought!!!!!!!

[-] 1 points by geenee (5) 2 years ago

How about we do something constructive instead of standing around and picketing. They surely aren't going to give us stock. Lets have a run on the banks. Let all of us poorer people pull our money out of the banks. The banks will be close to or go under. Then they can't invest our money in wall street or whatever they invest in. Also if we all in America would stop buying gasoline for a week, think of all the money those crooks in OPEC would lose. The problem with america is no one sticks together to accomplish any thing. Look at what Libya accomplished by sticking together. Lets get constructive.!!!!!!!!!!! geenee

[-] 1 points by geenee (5) 2 years ago

How about we do something constructive instead of standing around and picketing. They surely aren't going to give us stock. Lets have a run on the banks. Let all of us poorer people pull our money out of the banks. The banks will be close to or go under. Then they can't invest our money in wall street or whatever they invest in. Also if we all in America would stop buying gasoline for a week, think of all the money those crooks in OPEC would lose. The problem with america is no one sticks together to accomplish any thing. Look at what Libya accomplished by sticking together. Lets get constructive.!!!!!!!!!!! geenee

[-] 1 points by twonotrump (1) 2 years ago

Greedy bastards,

These wall street guys

Greedy bastards,

They make you cry

They steal your money and

They steal your pride

We have to kick out these

Greedy bastard wall street guys

Where’s the money to pay the loans

Where’s the money to buy a home

These greedy bastards

Have it all

We have to make them

All pay a whole lot more

the middle class people

have disappeared

and all

that are left are the greedy

bastard millionaires

We have to kick out

These wall street guys

We have to have a lot

More jobs

Greedy bastards

These wall street guys

Greedy bastards

They make you cry

SUNG TO THE MELODY OF “Tiny Bubbles”

Greedy bastards,

These wall street guys

Greedy bastards,

They make you cry

They steal your money and

They steal your pride

We have to kick out these

Greedy bastard wall street guys

Where’s the money to pay the loans

Where’s the money to buy a home

These greedy bastards

Have it all

We have to make them

All pay a whole lot more

the middle class people

have disappeared

and all

that are left are the greedy

bastard millionaires

We have to kick out

These wall street guys

We have to have a lot

More jobs

Greedy bastards

These wall street guys

Greedy bastards

They make you cry

SUNG TO THE MELODY OF “Tiny Bubbles”

Greedy bastards,

These wall street guys

Greedy bastards,

They make you cry

They steal your money and

They steal your pride

We have to kick out these

Greedy bastard wall street guys

Where’s the money to pay the loans

Where’s the money to buy a home

These greedy bastards

Have it all

We have to make them

All pay a whole lot more

the middle class people

have disappeared

and all

that are left are the greedy

bastard millionaires

We have to kick out

These wall street guys

We have to have a lot

More jobs

Greedy bastards

These wall street guys

Greedy bastards

They make you cry

SUNG TO THE MELODY OF “Tiny Bubbles”

Greedy bastards,

These wall street guys

Greedy bastards,

They make you cry

They steal your money and

They steal your pride

We have to kick out these

Greedy bastard wall street guys

Where’s the money to pay the loans

Where’s the money to buy a home

These greedy bastards

Have it all

We have to make them

All pay a whole lot more

the middle class people

have disappeared

and all

that are left are the greedy

bastard millionaires

We have to kick out

These wall street guys

We have to have a lot

More jobs

Greedy bastards

These wall street guys

Greedy bastards

They make you cry

SUNG TO THE MELODY OF “Tiny Bubbles”

Greedy bastards,

These wall street guys

Greedy bastards,

They make you cry

They steal your money and

They steal your pride

We have to kick out these

Greedy bastard wall street guys

Where’s the money to pay the loans

Where’s the money to buy a home

These greedy bastards

Have it all

We have to make them

All pay a whole lot more

the middle class people

have disappeared

and all

that are left are the greedy

bastard millionaires

We have to kick out

These wall street guys

We have to have a lot

More jobs

Greedy bastards

These wall street guys

Greedy bastards

They make you cry

SUNG TO THE MELODY OF “Tiny Bubbles”

Greedy bastards these wall street guys greedy bastards they make you cry they steal your mney and they steal your pride we have to kick out these
greedy bastard wall street guys

where's the money to pay the loans where's the money to buy a home these greedy bastards they have it all we have to make them all pay more

the middle class people have disappeared and all that are left are the greedy bastard millionnaires

we have to kick out these wall street guys we have to have a lot more jobs

greedy bastards these wall street guys greedy bastards they make you cry

SUN GO TINY BUBBLES MELODY

[-] 1 points by geekygirl (2) 3 years ago

I support your movement and am glad to see a group of people finally stand up and be counted. We the people are supposed to be running this country not the rich.

There is only one way to fix where we are and that is not to distribute the wealth. Socialism is not the answer.

The answer is to remove our current politians and quit electing career politians to represent us. They have never lived a normal life. They were raised and educated to be politians.

Being elected President or into any other political job should not be a paid position. They should do it because they want to help the people, not help themselves.

If our elected representatives do not represent our views, they should be removed from office immediately.

There should be no lobbyist with deep pockets. Politians who accept money or other perks from lobbyist should be removed from office immediately as this should be seen as a conflict of OUR interest.

We should not be paying our politians to serve. The founding fathers viewed it as an honor to serve the people not as a paying job.

On education, everyone is entitled to an education. I do not feel that this is a privilege but a right. We are far behind other countries educationally because so many of our people can not afford higher educations for themselves and their children. Higher education should be free for all or should the cost should be charged proportionate to income.

We should stop trading with foreign countries. If we are going to trade with foreign countries, then it should be even on both sides. Foreign trade should only be for goods and services that we can not produce in this country.

All off shore, outsourced jobs should be brought back into this country. There are plenty of people to do these jobs here. We would not have this out of proportion jobless rate if those jobs were brought back into our country.

Welfare and other subsidies should have caps on the amount of time these assistances can be drawn.

Federal taxes should be abolished or lowered to cover only the cost of federal programs.

I do not begrudge people who have worked hard to make their money, the right to have that money. It was our parents and their parents dream for us, that we could work hard and make a decent living.

Smaller government

No more career politians

No pay or nominal pay for politians

No lobbyist or accepting of money and perks from lobbyist

Reduce taxes to cover only the program and not the people who administer it

Fair trade or no foreign trade

Bring all outsourced, off shore jobs back to the US

Make higher education affordable

Put caps on the amount of time that someone can receive welfare and other assistance

Stay out of other countries politics

Quit sending money to other counries, we have plenty of poor and downtrodden here we can help

No more federal bailouts of banks and other institutions. If they fail, they fail. It is the way of business and of life.

The 99% needs a message, a consistant message. Not a message that says give me this or give me that but a message that will unite the people and the country and provide a viable option to what we have now. If we do not provide an alternative that makes sense, we will not be taken seriously no matter how many protests are held, no matter how many areas we occupy.

These are the things that I propose.

[-] 1 points by brod (3) 3 years ago

SPREAD THE WORD! Occupy Wall Street Protesters have a new tool to get their demands heard!!! Protesters can now use their smartphones, ipads, laptops and computers to sign the Occupy Wall Street Demands list petition, direct to congress at: www.OccupyWallStreetDemands.net. Now THAT'S how to get things done!

[-] 1 points by HardWorkinDaddy (6) 3 years ago

I want to make a point about the welfare system. It traps women and lets fathers off the hook. Sex too early, baby too early.(society as a whole's proplem for not teaching young about safe sex..abstenace my ass) Daddy leaves cause its hard to pay the bills, and its socially acceptable to do so. Mommy gets stuck with kids and no skills. Gets welfare to feed kids. Gets crappy min wage job since she has no skills. welfare gets cut cause she has a job and can "support herself now", kids go to super, super crappy govn't funded daycare when they need nurturing more than any other time (0-3yrs). Mommy either quits to get back the time with her kids n save them from that crappy daycare because she can't afford any better or the kids are stuck there getting stupider by the day. Either way, the cycle of poverty continues. The problem is not the amount of welfare, but the size of a McDonalds paycheck.

[-] 1 points by dolfinguy (20) 3 years ago

OK--Some civil disobedience is good for the political soul & for national media PR....but... Real Solutions are available & need your energy & support...Now. Are We the 99%Voters ready to take the REAL next step?....Here is the more proactive solution as the Necessary Next Step-- http://www.getmoneyout.com/ --& tell a friend--tell everyone...because this ones gonna be the hardest next step to take. Election Reform Now-- One person ,one vote ,$100 limit to voters only! Also--How many tent-totin' Occupiers are Registered Voters & ready to Organize Re-call Elections, or run for office, or propose local, state or federal referendums, initiatives or propositions? These 99%Voters can & would threaten & shock our current politicians to change their tunes. --Recall just one corporate-suckling congress person in every (or a few) states & see how the rest of elected officials will respond to the Power of the Organized 99%Voters!! Join & support --getmoneyout.com-- Reform Elections first--tax reform will follow... Don't waste time & money on jail-bail. Keep it peaceful, keep it legal, & the 99% wins. Use your American Rights & Freedoms to Organize Votes & Fix America Now. &Read Jeffery Sachs--the "Price of Civilization: Renewing America's Values". or listen to--- http://www.commonwealthclub.org/events/archive/podcast/dr-jeffrey-sachs-101011 ---

[-] 1 points by camillemalcolm (4) 3 years ago

I am so proud of you. Everything I hear you say resonates....it is about time America woke up. I am there with you in our little town of Monterey California we occupy Nov. 4th. You are our inspiration! Thank you, Camille Malcolm

[-] 1 points by hcainsup (2) 3 years ago

Too big to fail, too stupid to succeed! You want to make a difference quit listening to leftist college professors and get a job... anywhere. What you are doing is creating a big mess. Are YOU ging to pay for the clean-up? Are YOU going to pay the over time charges to the police who are protecting you? You are squatters, not "occupiers."

[-] 1 points by hcainsup (2) 3 years ago

Too big to fail, too stupid to succeed! You want to make a difference quit listening to leftist college professors and get a job... anywhere. What you are doing is creating a big mess. Are YOU ging to pay for the clean-up? Are YOU going to pay the over time charges to the police who are protecting you? You are squatters, not "occupiers."

[-] 1 points by NOSTRADAMUS (2) 3 years ago

No use occupying wall street. Deal with the real problem. Problem of foreigners getting jobs with fake resumes (IT), illegal immigrants, temp student workers (Hershey was only a tip of the ice berg), outsourced manufacturing to China, substandard goods dumped in US by superstores like Walmart, Target, Staples etc. Take some practical steps. Ask the Federal government to investigate into these crimes. Move the courts to charge the criminals. I have taken several personal risks through whistle blowing. But the response has been only a deaf ear of the authorities.

[-] 1 points by duggy650 (3) 3 years ago

Govt borrows all spending money... Why? Borrowing indebts you and me...all income taxes go to pay the national debt! why not print u s notes free from debt? Why let an independent bankstard owned agency,the fed, cvounterfeit dollars and lend them to you and me via treasury printing and selling u s bonds? ???

[-] 1 points by duggy650 (3) 3 years ago

Very few can imagine america after monetary melt down. Yeah, some barter,some transactions with silver or gold,but, mostly looting, starvation, death

[-] 1 points by cvasq (12) 3 years ago

they made legal to test for drugs so you can filter through drug addicts, this whole site is full of rhetoric, such famous quotes "we are the 99% and we are too rich to fail"
if you have half a brain you can figure out how to do business in this country easier than most countries in this world.

. You want to talk about slaves? How about this one from the left, I work hard I earn a paycheck, i pay for my insurance through this job i have, I don't own a house, i rent. Now I also pay all of my taxes. The same left would like to raise my taxes and "redistribute" that to people who aren't working, may have even have given up on looking for a job. Here's my point you guys on the left (to be clear I'm a moderate I disagree with MANY things on the right as well) DOESN'T THAT MAKE ME A SLAVE FOR THOSE PEOPLE?

Why are you guys always pushing socialism? WE HAVE A SOCIALIST STRUCTURE NOW AND ITS NOT WORKING. My evidence is 1. medicare (welfare) =broke 2. medical (welfare) = broke 3. our AMERICAN military (not paid crap for what they do give up there rights for protect ours) (social enlistment, sense of "duty")= socialist and broke 4. The politicians elected paid by the government= ripping us off and socialist (These same idiots would be in charge and yo would make them your ruling class still) THEY SHOULD NOT BE PAID ADS SHOULD BE PAID BY TAXES AND NO OTHER FUNDING Here's another question for you guys

How many of you with these 100,000 dollar education debts have degrees in ARTS, HISTORY, ENGLISH, are out there complaining that you can't find a job and can't pay off these loans and want the government to pay for your debts? TO THOSE OF YOU WHO FIT THIS DESCRIPTION:

  1. WTF were you thinking that you could find a job with degrees like this?
  2. DO you really think that any of us give a crap that you have a huge debt to pay off with a stupid degree that wouldn't help you get a job?
  3. NO WE DON'T IT'S NOT OUR FAULT YOU COULDN'T PLAN AHEAD FIGURE SOMETHING ELSE OUT we aren't your parents to clean up your mess and maybe that debt is the spanking your parents should have given you when you growing up to learn that you have to take care of yourself and deal with the consequences of your life.

ALSO for the money money part why don't you try running for office and get crap done if you think that your movement is doing anything then get people elected, f enough people are behind you then it shouldn't be a problem

DON'T expect everyone else to have to go with what this movement is doing not all of us agree with it. So what are you gonna do when people disagree with you do you think it's all about you or everyone in this country. You guys might be screaming "we will be heard" but please remember that doesn't mean your the only voice or the only voice that's right

. with respect thank you PS. I do believe that things can change but I challenge your movement to find people that won't be swayed by the money that are complaining of. I remember how everyone was going with the rhetoric of Obama. I hope you all remember that things don't change over night. I also think that you guys should get out of wall street and go straight to washington to get change. People still need to do business and your business is better handled at the capital of our great nation MANY OF THE CHANGES YOU PROPOSE ARE GOOD ONES; BUT I ALSO THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO WORK ON YOUR APPROACH WITH THE PUBLIC, YOU GUYS USE WHAT SOUNDS LIKE TO MOST PEOPLE JUST RHETORIC AND BTW A PEACEFUL PROTEST ALSO INVOLVE DOING AS THE POLICE SAY, GET ARRESTED LET THEM TAKE YOU. IF YOU RESIST THEM THEY ARE IN EVERY RIGHT TO GET YOU TO GET BACK EVERY VIDEO I'VE SEEN OF YOU GUYS HAD THE PERSON WHO GOT PULLED IN OR HIT OR SPRAYED BY THE COPS MOVING INTO THERE LINE. THEY ARE THERE TO STOP A RIOT WHICH AN UGLY MOB CAN EASILY TURN INTO TO.

THAT IS YOUR BIGGEST PROBLEM YOU GUYS APPEAR TO BE NOTHING MORE THAN A MOB AND THAT CAN GET UGLY REALLY FAST

[-] 1 points by cvasq (12) 3 years ago

i'm gonna repost this it was a reply i wrote down a little bit but i hope your reading thanks,

they made legal to test for drugs so you can filter through drug addicts, this whole site is full of rhetoric, such famous quotes "we are the 99% and we are too rich to fail"
if you have half a brain you can figure out how to do business in this country easier than most countries in this world.

. You want to talk about slaves? How about this one from the left, I work hard I earn a paycheck, i pay for my insurance through this job i have, I don't own a house, i rent. Now I also pay all of my taxes. The same left would like to raise my taxes and "redistribute" that to people who aren't working, may have even have given up on looking for a job. Here's my point you guys on the left (to be clear I'm a moderate I disagree with MANY things on the right as well) DOESN'T THAT MAKE ME A SLAVE FOR THOSE PEOPLE?

Why are you guys always pushing socialism? WE HAVE A SOCIALIST STRUCTURE NOW AND ITS NOT WORKING. My evidence is 1. medicare (welfare) =broke 2. medical (welfare) = broke 3. our AMERICAN military (not paid crap for what they do give up there rights for protect ours) (social enlistment, sense of "duty")= socialist and broke 4. The politicians elected paid by the government= ripping us off and socialist (These same idiots would be in charge and yo would make them your ruling class still) THEY SHOULD NOT BE PAID ADS SHOULD BE PAID BY TAXES AND NO OTHER FUNDING Here's another question for you guys

How many of you with these 100,000 dollar education debts have degrees in ARTS, HISTORY, ENGLISH, are out there complaining that you can't find a job and can't pay off these loans and want the government to pay for your debts? TO THOSE OF YOU WHO FIT THIS DESCRIPTION:

  1. WTF were you thinking that you could find a job with degrees like this?
  2. DO you really think that any of us give a crap that you have a huge debt to pay off with a stupid degree that wouldn't help you get a job?
  3. NO WE DON'T IT'S NOT OUR FAULT YOU COULDN'T PLAN AHEAD FIGURE SOMETHING ELSE OUT we aren't your parents to clean up your mess and maybe that debt is the spanking your parents should have given you when you growing up to learn that you have to take care of yourself and deal with the consequences of your life.

ALSO for the money money part why don't you try running for office and get crap done if you think that your movement is doing anything then get people elected, f enough people are behind you then it shouldn't be a problem

DON'T expect everyone else to have to go with what this movement is doing not all of us agree with it. So what are you gonna do when people disagree with you do you think it's all about you or everyone in this country. You guys might be screaming "we will be heard" but please remember that doesn't mean your the only voice or the only voice that's right

. with respect thank you PS. I do believe that things can change but I challenge your movement to find people that won't be swayed by the money that are complaining of. I remember how everyone was going with the rhetoric of Obama. I hope you all remember that things don't change over night. I also think that you guys should get out of wall street and go straight to washington to get change. People still need to do business and your business is better handled at the capital of our great nation MANY OF THE CHANGES YOU PROPOSE ARE GOOD ONES; BUT I ALSO THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO WORK ON YOUR APPROACH WITH THE PUBLIC, YOU GUYS USE WHAT SOUNDS LIKE TO MOST PEOPLE JUST RHETORIC AND BTW A PEACEFUL PROTEST ALSO INVOLVE DOING AS THE POLICE SAY, GET ARRESTED LET THEM TAKE YOU. IF YOU RESIST THEM THEY ARE IN EVERY RIGHT TO GET YOU TO GET BACK EVERY VIDEO I'VE SEEN OF YOU GUYS HAD THE PERSON WHO GOT PULLED IN OR HIT OR SPRAYED BY THE COPS MOVING INTO THERE LINE. THEY ARE THERE TO STOP A RIOT WHICH AN UGLY MOB CAN EASILY TURN INTO TO.

THAT IS YOUR BIGGEST PROBLEM YOU GUYS APPEAR TO BE NOTHING MORE THAN A MOB AND THAT CAN GET UGLY REALLY FAST

[-] 1 points by brianstn (3) 3 years ago

Last time I checked, the fat epidemic is in every country wold wide, minus China, oh wait...was watching Reuters and oh, there's some fat Chinese people. I work so the lazy parts out. My head is screwed on tight, check! Well, what's the probllem America? It's called STOP BUYING CHINESE AND START BUYING YOUR OWN STUFF. Best way to fix a 300 million dollar trade deficite!

[-] 1 points by brianstn (3) 3 years ago

People need to get educated on the occupation before leaving LAME comments like, "get a job, your lazy, etc..." The following article lays out part of the cause. http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

And for the 1%, billions of people have ideas to improve life everywhere, but those billions are handed CREDIT and told to USE IT. That is a crutch used by the wealthy to remove one leg from a 3 legged stool. They hit youngsters up before they are educated enough to say NO. So, those billions of ideas can not be realized due to a large blanket the wealthy put on society. I am at work right now, on my lunch break! I am as mad as the next person about inequality in the system. NFL wanting a raise? NBA wanting a raise? CEO's getting 8million a year? What? Rediculous!

[-] 1 points by brianstn (3) 3 years ago

People need to get educated on the occupation before leaving LAME comments like, "get a job, your lazy, etc..." The following article lays out part of the cause. http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

And for the 1%, billions of people have ideas to improve life everywhere, but those billions are handed CREDIT and told to USE IT. That is a crutch used by the wealthy to remove one leg from a 3 legged stool. They hit youngsters up before they are educated enough to say NO. So, those billions of ideas can not be realized due to a large blanket the wealthy put on society. I am at work right now, on my lunch break! I am as mad as the next person about inequality in the system. NFL wanting a raise? NBA wanting a raise? CEO's getting 8million a year? What? Rediculous!

[-] 1 points by TheHumanoidTyphoon (30) from Coral Springs, FL 3 years ago

The most difficult thing is that we (the people) have a huge deal of power and influence but are terribly divided. The other problem is the simple fact that some cannot go to the streets due to working 40-80 hour weeks, taking care of our children, worrying about mortgages etc.

Another large issue is that there are SO MANY causes, gay rights, animal rights, woman rights, and about 1,000 more activist groups. I am all for all of the above groups and many others BUT as a people we need to solidify our causes into one cause that will have the tactical and economic resources it needs to bring down the capitalist regime. To bring the world into an age of light instead of dark, not just in America or the UK but also in Africa, Thailand, Russia, South America, etc.

Imagine if we could get everyone in the 99% to not pay their mortgage for one month, and use that money to hire a crack team of lawyers, publicists, commercial airtime and other tools that the corporations and right-wing government use to skew and force their point.

We have to ensure that this continues to grow and that everyone does what they can to help. I am offering free graphic design to anyone who needs it for any Occupy Effort... this is the best I can do as I am a full-time college student.

[-] 1 points by Pattyygould (1) from Warren, MI 3 years ago

to all that say that being in debt is a "choice". I am a college student and after three years of being a full time waitress and student I bought myself a brand new car. I am paying the payments just fine and I think my American car helped out the economy. I am in debt, and I will admit I chose to put myself there. But, I did not choose to bail out the banks or have my tax money go to a CEO's Christmas bonus. I work very hard for what I have and I hope to one day make it to the top. The 99% are not fat, lazy, selfish people. We work just as hard as the 1%. We deserve the best but, it is everyones responsibly to get it for themselves. Occupying Wall Street is a great idea. But, in order to "get back" at the 1% we should try to do something a little more than make their walk into work a little uncomfortable. I will not be participating in the protest because I am busy with work and school. I do, however wish everyone well. Oh, one more thing- I hope everyone is cleaning up after themselves.

[-] 1 points by sympathetic (1) 3 years ago

Please send me some money so I can join your movement. I am sympathetic to your aims and only wish to join you. If you can send some to me I will be there......Oops, I forgot you don't have any money but mine.

[-] 1 points by maryehowland (2) 3 years ago

First of all, thank you! My suggestions to those who march in this protest: I want to see signs in the group that say "NATIONALIZE THE BANKS". When asked what you want, tell them, "We want government funded elections with all who want to vote being allowed to vote and if an ID card is required, then it is the responsibility of the election officials to see that everyone has everything they need to vote-including a ride. Without the necessity for fund raising, our representatives could then spend their time in the volunteering in hospitals, nursing homes, schools, soup kitchens, etc., since most of them have no idea what life for many Americans is like. I want the politicians in Washington to be REQUIRED to live with their families in the same type housing provided for military families with the same pay. Then lets see how many of the politicians want to "serve their country." When these politicians talk about "people are going to have to tighten their belts", they should have to know what that means by living on the same amount as those who have the least. Say to the politicians who you now have listening...enough, enough, enough of this tearing down of our great country with the arrogance and greed of your politics. Let "them" know that "We the people" have had enough. Power to the people...it still rings true.

[-] 1 points by bluebird (1) 3 years ago

There needs to be a clear message what the protestors are wanting. You want to be part of the 1% well how are you going to go about that besides just protesting? What do you want from the 1%? How do you propose in a detailed outline things get resolved. I am supportive of this protest but I would like to see a clear outline of what people want accomplished down on wall street. You can't just protest with no clear objective. The 1% aren't just going to start throwing money your way. I haven't seen one person interviewed that actually stated here's what we want in detailed form. It's only we want a job or we want to be treated equal or we want more share of the money. That is fine how do you propose the 1% starts splitting their share? Do you think these people are just going to start raining money on you from the streets because you are protesting? No you have to have a clear objective if you are going to fight for something and a clear solution. Fight for it but don't be lazy in what you are doing.

[-] 1 points by OBchanter (6) 3 years ago

AS you see most of protesters there at the ground decided to reelect Obama and conveying their Greetings to Mr. President Obama

[-] 1 points by yupyup (2) 3 years ago

This is no longer Occupy Wall Street it has become "lets make some noise and make some news", go home the public dosen't care anymore.

[-] 1 points by yupyup (2) 3 years ago

This is no longer Occupy Wall Street it has become "lets make some noise and make some news", go home the public dosen't care anymore.

[-] 1 points by bdog (8) 3 years ago

check out this song for our theme http://youtu.be/J6BuQcemmtM

[-] 1 points by bdog (8) 3 years ago

check out this song for the 99% of us tp://youtu.be/J6BuQcemmtM

[-] 1 points by Gruntvigs (1) 3 years ago

Recently heard William Black a UMKC professor of Economics and Law, talk on Democracy Now. "A Great Fraud was committed" His book title is one of my favorite all time jokes: "The Best way to Rob a Bank is to own one" He hits the nail on the head regarding what destroyed the Economy and caused the crash....Those who destroyed the Economy need to be put on trial and jailed.....just released...ok I just became aware of this new information: Senator Bernie Sanders is also another cool person fighting for the people. check this out: http://neweconomicperspectives.blogspot.com/

[-] 1 points by Krankie (140) 3 years ago

The overwhelming majority of police are just like you and me - trying to keep their jobs and look after their families. There is an invaluable lesson to be learned from the Spring Uprising in the Middle East - the best investment we can make is to be nice to the police - they are the ones the Establishment are depending on to protect their interests. If we can win the police over to our side, the battle is half won. And just think of how terrified the CEOs will be when their protectors say "no more"!!

[-] 1 points by fetsonfet (2) 3 years ago

What we need to do is to stop feeding them. Stop investing in their banks. Stop using their credit cards. Stop buying their goods. Etcetera..

[-] 1 points by fetsonfet (2) 3 years ago

What we need to do is to stop feeding them. Stop investing in their banks. Stop using their credit cards. Stop buying their goods. Etcetera..

[-] 1 points by John123 (5) 3 years ago

March with David Ferola the "9'step plan"

Step1) Send your TAXES to a trusted congressman or congresswoman which maybe hard to find in your state. Prepare your taxes, made out to the I.R.S check and envelope, and a stamp. Fit it in inside of a bigger envelope, onto which you should write congress address, preferably your state congress.

Washington, DC 203 Cannon House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Phone Number: (202) 225-2831

Have congress unwrap the envelopes, state you want your taxes to be mailed to the I.R.S If you are asking yourself, what will this achieve first it can be used as a bargain chip however, congress cannot spend it or over take the fed reserve and banks system over night, nonetheless this will indeed give teeth/meat, back to congress. You should include a sign return receipt so as to show proof you paid your taxes.

STEP2) At every rally SHOUT “Send you taxes to Congress now”

Step 3) OWNERSHIP: With meat and teeth congress can demand ownership of the Federal Reserve, as to how much, well a good start would be 45% of course congress should have full control of the fed reserve. However, letting the opposition think you’re a fair man goes a long way.

Occupy Wall st/Dallas/Seattle/houston with David Ferola “9 step plan” at hand
for the rest http://inkrumguardians.webs.com/

For Occupy funny pix http://inkrumguardians.webs.com/apps/blog/

[-] 1 points by geepers (1) 3 years ago

You people are nothing but clowns - we had the same clowns in the 1960's - they were called hippies back then. Go get a job and start contributing to society through your sweat and hard work and then you will be taken seriously

[-] 1 points by silverpanther (1) from Queens, NY 3 years ago

Sounds like an old chant...." all we are saying...is give me a chance"

[-] 1 points by BANGKOKBENNY (2) 3 years ago

Tell the people we want:reciprocal trade agreements with China,S.Korea.They tax us 100% on our exports.That is what we should charge them for there imports to our country,THE USA!!! No more career politicians,one term and you are out!!! Get some demands together,protests w/out purposes.demands get nowhere!

[-] 1 points by BANGKOKBENNY (2) 3 years ago

Tell the people we want:reciprocal trade agreements with China,S.Korea.They tax us 100% on our exports.That is what we should charge them for there imports to our country,THE USA!!! No more career politicians,one term and you are out!!! Get some demands together,protests w/out purposes.demands get nowhere!

[-] 1 points by brooklynborn (1) 3 years ago

greetings LOSERS.

Here is reality - this behavior of yours will not result in anything given to you, done for you or of benefit to each and any one of you. It is futile.

Simple, direct and realistic.

You are not going to gain one penny - or any amount of currency whatsoever - in any form.

have a nice day.

Love,

reality

[-] 1 points by TheHumanoidTyphoon (30) from Coral Springs, FL 3 years ago

Haha! Luckily it is not for any of them... This is being done strictly to benefit average Americans AND America as a whole. This is so that our country can live up to the ideals of the Founding Fathers, maybe you should read their opionion on Corporations...

Love, Reality and Common Sense (I know it is hard)

[-] 1 points by bodoke77 (1) from Los Angeles, CA 3 years ago

I've seen and heard the people and the one thing that bothers me is that no one is quite sure what it is they're pissed off about. But they know they're pissed. So here it is in a nutshell. Get behind it, educate the press, educate yourself and your freinds. The protest is about 'PLUTOCRACY' OR 'PLUTONOMY' whichever you prefer. GOOGLE IT! Then read the second amendment of the constitution.

[-] 1 points by mnaz2001 (10) 3 years ago

Talk to a friend. Avoid the fear of others and do something. They expect us to fold like a lawn chair like we have for years. Do not except it. Join your local group. Make a stand. Keep poking the nerve America.

[-] 1 points by petechandanatural (1) 3 years ago

yessssssssssss!!!!!!

[-] 1 points by petechandanatural (1) 3 years ago

yessssssssssss!!!!!!

[-] 1 points by skipper (9) 3 years ago

OWS has to start paying attention to what the banks are now again up to, they are socializing their losses, read the following:link-page removed, so I'll paste from the rollingstone article:"1) Bank of America is shifting a huge collection of Merrill Lynch derivatives contracts onto its own federally-insured balance sheet. This move of risky instruments off the uninsured Merrill balance sheet onto the commercial bank's balance sheet was done to prevent Bank of America's creditors from attacking the firm with collateral calls and other sorties. Essentially, an irresponsible debtor, B of A, is keeping a loan shark from breaking his legs by getting his rich parents to co-sign his loan. The parents in this metaphor would be the FDIC.

The FDIC naturally is not pleased with this development, but the Fed, the supreme banking regulator, is apparently encouraging this move. Here's how Bloomberg characterized this move:

In short, the Fed's priorities seem to lie with protecting the bank-holding company from losses at Merrill, even if that means greater risks for the FDIC's insurance fund.

Again and again, the Fed proves it has no appetite for allowing Wall Street to eat its own pain, and continually encourages banks to stick the government with its losses and bad assets. This move will allow Bank of America to keep a Band-Aid over its disastrous financial situation far longer than it would be able to in a genuinely free market. People should be outraged at this development.

The banks are moving to back trillions of their derivative exposures by their FDIC insured deposit base, so having the taxpayers back their derivative losses. People this outright theft by the banks from the public,this has to be must stopped, please inform yourselves. The Fed is again thinking about buying toxic mortgage backed securities(MBS) from the banks, more quantitative easing, QE3 is about to restart, link :(page removed) http://www.zerohedge.com/news/mbs-monetization-expectations-good-massive-004-plunge-mortgage-spread-sure-unleash-refi-tsunami. The government knows no limits when it comes to saving wallstreet banks, it will bankrupt the nation trying. OWS supporters must also inform themselves more about wallstreet abuses, bank thievery, please read: http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/occupy-wall-street-must-know-facts-about-big-banks. Thanks, john and ron.

[-] 1 points by skipper (9) 3 years ago

OWS has to start paying attention to what the banks are now again up to, they are socializing their losses, read the following: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/occupy-wall-street-washington-still-doesnt-get-it-20111021. The banks are moving to back trillions of their derivative exposures by their FDIC insured deposit base, so having the taxpayers back their derivative losses. People this outright theft by the banks from the public,this has to be must stopped, please inform yourselves. The Fed is again thinking about buying toxic mortgage backed securities(MBS) from the banks, more quantitative easing, QE3 is about to restart, link : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/mbs-monetization-expectations-good-massive-004-plunge-mortgage-spread-sure-unleash-refi-tsunami. The government knows no limits when it comes to saving wallstreet banks, it will bankrupt the nation trying. OWS supporters must also inform themselves more about wallstreet abuses, bank thievery, please read: http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/occupy-wall-street-must-know-facts-about-big-banks. Thanks, john and ron.

[-] 1 points by mark104 (1) 3 years ago

The basic problem/issue is that we are failing in our mission as stewards of the earth and its resources. There is enough if WE share. Capitalism as it exists is about ME and my money. Children starve and the earth is savaged as a trillion $ changes hands in a day promoting overconsumption/overcompetition/overindulgence and ultimately overpopulation This is the coherent focus point from which all follows.

[-] 1 points by nyangeloxo (52) 3 years ago

Thank you so much everyone who is peacefully supporting this issue. please keep in mind that violence is not going to get us closer to reaching our goal...it will get us farther from it!! take all that energy an exert it on communicating the very point of this organization to those who are not as educated!! spread the word, pay it forward, create positivity and we will reach our goal in no time!! :)

[-] 1 points by nyangeloxo (52) 3 years ago

Thank you so much everyone who is peacefully supporting this issue. please keep in mind that violence is not going to get us closer to reaching our goal...it will get us farther from it!! take all that energy an exert it on communicating the very point of this organization to those who are not as educated!! spread the word, pay it forward, create positivity and we will reach our goal in no time!! :)

[-] 1 points by vnsharma (1) 3 years ago

The Occupy Wall Street program of struggle must continue and must expand, spread and take global shape until the loot by Corporates is completely stopped. The power of the corporates has dismantled every known sane system of people's participation in governance. They buy, form and demolish Govts at their sweet will, control police and other security agencies and have least regard for human beings

[-] 1 points by Hank (1) 3 years ago

Ok, the OWS has some legs. But what can you do with such a propaganda machine spewing out clichés at you 24/7. You will soon be rag tag communists criticizing the American way—desecrating the very institutions Americans fought and died for.

Here is how I think you can get out of the line of fire and pull off an American style revolution.

First, no violence. Do a King, Gandhi revolution. The results are exponential and the press releases about the violent commies trying to take over America will have to be burned.

Second, every speech must declare that this movement is for free enterprise and free government. This is the key. The bad guys won’t know what to say if they can’t say you are un-American Commies who want to get something for nothing or do away with our free economy.

Free enterprise is god’s gift to the masses. The problem is sometimes, in its ebb and flow, too much ends up in the hands of too few. Without sensible regulation, this will inevitably happen from time to time. If there isn’t a government regulation to adjust this phenomenon and the people who have the extra money don’t do the responsible thing, we end up with economic and political monopoly. It’s like going into a Monopoly game when a few of the players already have property and hotels before the first roll of the dice.

Should smart people who work hard end up with more than the average Joe? Sure, why not. More than a million average Joes? Enough to control the economy or the Congress? That extreme brings you back to de facto Communism doesn’t it?

This brings me to my point. We need an American hero of American history to combat the pseudo American labeling when you hear from the other side….only one guy can do that--Thomas Jefferson

"The issue today is the same as it has been throughout history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite."

-President Thomas Jefferson

Jeffersonian Democracy, political movement in the United States from the 1790s to the 1820s. The Jeffersonians believed in democracy and equality of political opportunity (for white, property-owning, male citizens), with a priority for the "yeoman farmer" and the Plain Folk. Jefferson believed that his opponents, the Federalists, stood for aristocratic elitism, merchants and manufacturers, and supporters of the British system of government. Above all, the Jeffersonians were devoted to the principles of Republicanism, especially civic duty and opposition to privilege, aristocracy and corruption

There is no better example of an elite 1% acting as Jefferson forecasted than there is today.

[-] 1 points by ruthkastner (2) 3 years ago

Occupy the SEC! They let off Citicorps robbers with a tiny inconvenience fee.

[-] 1 points by eveningstar (9) 3 years ago

What could have been any better - than, a “Second Bill Of Rights” as proposed by former President, Franklin D. Roosevelt? What could have been any better? And yet, our Society rejected such a noble idea. Yes, “Capitalism: A Love Story” prevail.

[-] 1 points by eveningstar (9) 3 years ago

What could have been any better - than, a “Second Bill Of Rights” as proposed by former President, Franklin D. Roosevelt? What could have been any better? And yet, our Society rejected such a noble idea. Yes, “Capitalism: A Love Story” prevail.

[-] 1 points by theamerican (2) 3 years ago

We are tired of being taxed, fined and fee'd to death. When politicians allow corporations like oil companies, auto insurance companies to charge us whatever they want, they do so to get campaign contributions. Americans have been turned into slaves to pay for the entitlements of the beauracracy. We need to get the crooks out of power. No matter how they take your money it is still a tax. Remember the Boston massacre? What about the boston tea party? We have a right to demonstrate and repulse the wrongdoings of the authority. From a business owner and a loyal AMERICAN. The ones in charge are real COMMUNISTS! They take care of those that belong to the beauracracy!

[-] 1 points by theamerican (2) 3 years ago

We are tired of being taxed, fined and fee'd to death. When politicians allow corporations like oil companies, auto insurance companies to charge us whatever they want, they do so to get campaign contributions. Americans have been turned into slaves to pay for the entitlements of the beauracracy. We need to get the crooks out of power. No matter how they take your money it is still a tax. Remember the Boston massacre? What about the boston tea party? We have a right to demonstrate and repulse the wrongdoings of the authority. From a business owner and a loyal AMERICAN. The ones in charge are real COMMUNISTS! They take care of those that belong to the beauracracy!

[-] 1 points by Emma (1) 3 years ago

Why not make a slogan "Bring the jobs back to USA"

[-] 1 points by peterthewhale (1) 3 years ago

Heres my take on the world I would like to live in

  • One United Nations Governing Body (UNGB) to which entry has a minimum standard - free and fair elections every 4 years conducted by an independent body funded by UNGB - an Independent Judiciary funded by the UNGB - an independent Commission Against Corruption funded by UNGB - Commissioners and Politicians should not receive a salary but, while in office, be supported by their own states. On achieving retirement age they should receive a modest home and pension
  • Voting Rights according to the number of people living in a country
  • No right of veto for a select few.
  • One independent International Defence Force controled by the UNGB - all member states to contribute an equal percentage of GDP and - contribute troops on a per capita basis
  • One common international monetary system
  • One common International system of Labour Laws.
  • One international law which governs copyright
  • Member states Nations should fund their own police force but are not allowed to have their own defence force.
  • One international flag ( with an insert )
  • Non member states should not be traded with. Opposition parties in these countries should be actively supported and funded.
[-] 1 points by justoneperson (1) 3 years ago

I believe if we can outlaw the finanial derivative instruments that caused this economic crisis it would be a good first step. The 1% have made incredible amount of money off derivatives and when these investments failed - the 1% asked the taxpayers to bail them out.

[-] 1 points by DougRH (1) from Edmonton, AB 3 years ago

Business and products for people and planet, not just for profits!

A specific focus and constructive input is required in order to have any hope of significant impact and positive reform. The Stock Market was initially set up to provide large amounts of capital for R&D, capital expenditures, expansion etc that would otherwise not be be possible. It has now primarily become a VERY high stakes casino for those 'playing the market' and those that operate it and the corporations and banks purely for HUGE profits for a VERY small portion of people and no other social responsibility and purpose including providing positive products to provide for peoples NEEDS. This has led to very rapid unstable and chaotic capitalization for companies and the market to accomplish what this capital is intended for and causes the same catastrophic turmoil in the economy as a whole. Profits are a necessary for Corporations and businesses to be healthy, sustainable social responsible entities to be able to serve, sell and provide required goods & services. But operating solely for the purpose of nothing but huge profits for a very small portion of people involved with amoral, irresponsible greed is NOT! This is primarily what they have become. As long as businesses, including banks and other such financial institutions, operate in this mode with their primary and even sole focus, purpose, existence and goals, unbalanced and unsustainable economics will persist and even accelerate impoverishment and hardship for most of the world and ALL living organisms on it. Sincerely, Doug R Henderson Edmonton, Alberta Canada

[-] 1 points by misha (1) 3 years ago

Today 3000 people began to occupy Santa Rosa, CA! Great turnout! Power to the people!

[-] 1 points by SgtAlexi (1) 3 years ago

Corporate greed is only one of the major problems in the United States. If this country is to achieve it's once prestigeous prosperity, all problems must be addressed in this time when people are listening. Congress is nothing more than an inefficient system run by the elderly whose only goal is to line their pockets with more cash. Cash taken from an American populace already struggling to maintain itself with the minimal jobs and poor security provided by the same government who 'amends' our rights for our own 'safety'. Standing up against corporate greed is a righteous and noble cause, but only a march against the streets of Washington, opposition to the same inefficient government that has lead us so proudly to turmoil, only when we fill the streets with angry American's will our voices be heard. Change does not simply occur... it must be forced.

[-] 1 points by MrDunes (1) 3 years ago

I am greatly impressed with the productive Dialogue in this forum. I wrote something about this, and would like to humbly post it.

http://owsautumn.blogspot.com/2011/10/recharging-ows-movements-energy.html

[-] 1 points by DACROWE (1) 3 years ago

I commend your actions and am %100 in support of this important and Historical social movement. I pray that our numbers will grow and be sustained during the coming winter. If anything this will shame the ruling class and they will act accordingly to the measure of their shame. If anything while the mass of poor Americans suffer they will cease to flaunt their greed and ill gotten material wealth so openly. This is the first step. A complete reform that ends in complete social equality is the end goal. May God bless this Revolution. As for myself "I WILL NO PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF US AND THEM" Just as in the days of Abraham Lincoln, the 99% must preserve the Union against the 1%. Finally let it be know that the only power to big to fail is our cause. - SOLIDARITY! and Strength of Will.

Your servant apostle, D.A. CROWE

[-] 1 points by juglord (2) 3 years ago

Congratulations to the financially downtrodden for finally uniting on a global level. End the despotism ... Fuck the ruling rich tyrants --by any means necessary!!!

[-] 1 points by juglord (2) 3 years ago

Congratulations to the financially downtrodden for finally uniting on a global level. End the despotism ... Fuck the ruling rich tyrants --by any means necessary!!!

[-] 1 points by Fatduck (1) 3 years ago

Tax stock trading! $0.01 cent per trade times an average of 1.2 billion trades a day (3 month NYSE average) = $4.3 billion in increased US tax revenues per year.

[-] 1 points by nkp (33) 3 years ago

That tax is called capitol gains. If a private individual sells an asset purchased less than 12 months prior there is an additional tax.

[-] 1 points by Heretomakeyoumad (2) 3 years ago

lol get a job

[-] 1 points by Heretomakeyoumad (2) 3 years ago

lol get a job

[-] 1 points by jessie (1) 3 years ago

I would like to see the name of this exciting group reflect the nature and feeling of this Great movement and possibly make it sound less corporate.This movement deserves and could be known by a greater name perhaps"We the People"This could possibly capture the feeling of those of us who are not recognized and under-heard over all the special interests money,lobbyists and all the political noise!!

[-] 1 points by rustylyan (12) 3 years ago

Why we cant change our life but Why they can chang thier life with money . Its real funny and strange .

[-] 1 points by rustylyan (12) 3 years ago

Why we cant change our life but Why they can chang thier life with money . Its real funny and strange .

[-] 1 points by HeyNoniNoni (2) from Memphis, TN 3 years ago

Saw news articles that said you couldn't make hot food b/c no flame allowed: Get crockpots!

Thank you for protesting! :)

[-] 1 points by HeyNoniNoni (2) from Memphis, TN 3 years ago

Saw news articles that said you couldn't make hot food b/c no flame allowed: Get crockpots!

Thank you for protesting! :)

[-] 1 points by Manowar (3) 3 years ago

If you want to win, you must have the desire and willingness to give your life for your idea.

The last time Americans show that they are cowardly and stupid nation. You can not do anything really serious and difficult, than you're used to in his own past life.

You are grown fat and stupefied, half of your population gays and weaklings. You are losers. It's time to payback, morons!

[-] 1 points by beechersfault (5) 3 years ago

Wall Street by Beecher's Fault

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVOLTrhXhac

[-] 1 points by worldrevolution (12) 3 years ago

all of weblog holders are with you in all over the world http://endofdevil.mihanblog.com/

[-] 1 points by worldrevolution (12) 3 years ago

we are with you firends go on with more power....

[-] 1 points by worldrevolution (12) 3 years ago

we are with you firends go on with more power ok

[-] 1 points by worldrevolution (12) 3 years ago

we are with you firends go on with more power

[-] 1 points by OWS53 (11) from Blythe, CA 3 years ago

Police officers should be marching with us!

[-] 1 points by batman10 (2) 3 years ago

United we stand!

[-] 1 points by batman10 (2) 3 years ago

United we stand!

[-] 1 points by DragonHope (1) from Half Moon Bay, CA 3 years ago

Power to change can be attained by voting. If we can open voter registration booths at the various protest sites, policy makers will pay attention. You can vote for anyone you want, even Bozo. They WILL pay attention if we vote en mass. otherwise, the will just ignore you. Remember, mayors and police chiefs are elected officials too. VOTE and the will pay attention; they will begin to help the cause.

[-] 1 points by northpolealaskan (2) 3 years ago

Here is why I support OWS. Only two years ago, Steve Forbes, CEO of Forbes magazine, declared 2007 "the richest year ever in human history." During eight years of the Bush administration, the 400 richest Americans, who now own more than the bottom 150 million Americans, increased their net worth by $700 billion. In 2005, the top 1 percent claimed 22 percent of the national income, while the top 10 percent took half of the total income, the largest share since 1928.

Corporations systematically created a wealth gap over the last 30 years. In 1955, IRS records indicated the 400 richest people in the country were worth an average $12.6 million, adjusted for inflation.

In 2006, the 400 richest increased their average to $263 million, representing an epochal shift of wealth upward in the U.S.

In 1955, the richest tier paid an average 51.2 percent of their income in taxes under a progressive federal income tax that included loopholes. By 2006, the richest paid only 17.2 percent of their income in taxes. In 1955, the proportion of federal income from corporate taxes was 33 percent; by 2003, it decreased to 7.4 percent. Today, the top taxpayers pay the same percentage of their incomes in taxes as those making $50,000 to $75,000, although they doubled their share of total U.S. income.

"Over the past 30 years, the income of the top 1 percent, adjusted for inflation, doubled: the top one-tenth of 1 percent tripled, and the top one-one-hundredth quadrupled," says Pizzigati. "Meanwhile, the average income of the bottom 90 percent has gone down slightly. This is a stunning transformation."

Meanwhile, wages for most Americans didn't improve from 1979 to 1998, and the median male wage in 2000 was below the 1979 level, despite productivity increases of 44.5 percent. Between 2002 and 2004, inflation-adjusted median household income declined $1,669 a year. To make up for lost income, credit card debt soared 315 percent between 1989 and 2006, representing 138 percent of disposable income in 2007.

According to Pizzigati, the wealth disparity is the result of corporations squeezing more profits from workers.

"In the past corporations laid off workers because business was bad," Pizzigati says. "But over the past few decades, downsizing has been a corporate wealth generating strategy. Today, CEOs don't spend their time trying to make better products: they maneuver to take over other companies, steal their customers and fire their workers."

Progressive taxation used to prevent the rich from capturing a disproportionate share of national compensation, and the labor movement, which represented 35 percent of private sector employees and today represents 8 percent, once served as a political force to limit excessive executive pay. The Reagan backlash cut the top income tax rates, and saw the creation of right-wing think tanks that spent $30 billion over the past 30 years propagandizing for deregulation, privatization, cutting taxes, and wealth worship.

Bubble economies over the past 30 years helped CEOs pump up their income, and efforts to corral their pay are weak and ineffective. CEO pay may fall during these economic hard times, but disparity isn't going away. Without a strong movement for change, the wealth gap will only increase in this downturn.

"There won't be a restructuring of the economy unless we take on executive compensation," concludes Pizzigati. "Outrageously large rewards give executives an incentive to behave outrageously. If we allow these incentives to continue, we will just see more of the reckless behavior that has driven the global economy into the ditch."

Today US firms have $2 trillion in cash that is not being invested as reported by Bloomberg, NYT, WSJ, and Huffington Post.

According to a recent NYT article using the Census figures, the median annual income for a male full-time, year-round worker in 2010 — $47,715 — was virtually unchanged, in 2010 dollars, from its level in 1973, when it was $49,065, said Sheldon Danziger, professor of public policy at the University of Michigan.

Those who do not have college degrees were particularly hard hit, he said. “The median, full-time male worker has made no progress on average,” Mr. Danziger said.

[-] 1 points by Anisa (2) from Tulare, CA 3 years ago

You make some good points. Warren Buffet admitted that the super-rich has been coddled. He goes on to say in an article that back in 1992 the top 400 highest earning Americans paid 29.2% in taxes. In 2008 the top 400 earners paid 21.5% while the rest of us paid more. Buffet claims he paid 17.4% income tax in 2010 while his employees paid an average 36% income tax. Buffet recommends an immediate tax increase on those who make over $1 million (including dividend and capital gains) and additional taxes for those earning $10 million or more. We need to apply the “Buffet Rule” and increase the taxes on the top 1%.

Occupy Wall Street is getting a lot of media attention. The purpose needs to effect change. And what better way than to pass a tax plan that’s already on the table and waiting for Congress to vote it in. Raise taxes on the top 1%. Congress won’t pass it because they are in that 1%. Instead people are listening to Cain, Perry, and Romney talk about proposed tax plans that may or may not increase jobs but definitely increase taxes to the poor and middle income. It’s a Red Herring, they’re trying to detract the public from taxing the rich. If we tax the top 1% we can take the money and create the jobs.

Read what Buffet says about the top 1% in The New York Times, “Stop Coddling the Super-Rich” by Warren Buffet dated Aug. 14 2011. We are all inter-dependent.

[-] 1 points by northpolealaskan (2) 3 years ago

Here is why I support OWS. Only two years ago, Steve Forbes, CEO of Forbes magazine, declared 2007 "the richest year ever in human history." During eight years of the Bush administration, the 400 richest Americans, who now own more than the bottom 150 million Americans, increased their net worth by $700 billion. In 2005, the top 1 percent claimed 22 percent of the national income, while the top 10 percent took half of the total income, the largest share since 1928.

Corporations systematically created a wealth gap over the last 30 years. In 1955, IRS records indicated the 400 richest people in the country were worth an average $12.6 million, adjusted for inflation.

In 2006, the 400 richest increased their average to $263 million, representing an epochal shift of wealth upward in the U.S.

In 1955, the richest tier paid an average 51.2 percent of their income in taxes under a progressive federal income tax that included loopholes. By 2006, the richest paid only 17.2 percent of their income in taxes. In 1955, the proportion of federal income from corporate taxes was 33 percent; by 2003, it decreased to 7.4 percent. Today, the top taxpayers pay the same percentage of their incomes in taxes as those making $50,000 to $75,000, although they doubled their share of total U.S. income.

"Over the past 30 years, the income of the top 1 percent, adjusted for inflation, doubled: the top one-tenth of 1 percent tripled, and the top one-one-hundredth quadrupled," says Pizzigati. "Meanwhile, the average income of the bottom 90 percent has gone down slightly. This is a stunning transformation."

Meanwhile, wages for most Americans didn't improve from 1979 to 1998, and the median male wage in 2000 was below the 1979 level, despite productivity increases of 44.5 percent. Between 2002 and 2004, inflation-adjusted median household income declined $1,669 a year. To make up for lost income, credit card debt soared 315 percent between 1989 and 2006, representing 138 percent of disposable income in 2007.

According to Pizzigati, the wealth disparity is the result of corporations squeezing more profits from workers.

"In the past corporations laid off workers because business was bad," Pizzigati says. "But over the past few decades, downsizing has been a corporate wealth generating strategy. Today, CEOs don't spend their time trying to make better products: they maneuver to take over other companies, steal their customers and fire their workers."

Progressive taxation used to prevent the rich from capturing a disproportionate share of national compensation, and the labor movement, which represented 35 percent of private sector employees and today represents 8 percent, once served as a political force to limit excessive executive pay. The Reagan backlash cut the top income tax rates, and saw the creation of right-wing think tanks that spent $30 billion over the past 30 years propagandizing for deregulation, privatization, cutting taxes, and wealth worship.

Bubble economies over the past 30 years helped CEOs pump up their income, and efforts to corral their pay are weak and ineffective. CEO pay may fall during these economic hard times, but disparity isn't going away. Without a strong movement for change, the wealth gap will only increase in this downturn.

"There won't be a restructuring of the economy unless we take on executive compensation," concludes Pizzigati. "Outrageously large rewards give executives an incentive to behave outrageously. If we allow these incentives to continue, we will just see more of the reckless behavior that has driven the global economy into the ditch."

Today US firms have $2 trillion in cash that is not being invested as reported by Bloomberg, NYT, WSJ, and Huffington Post.

According to a recent NYT article using the Census figures, the median annual income for a male full-time, year-round worker in 2010 — $47,715 — was virtually unchanged, in 2010 dollars, from its level in 1973, when it was $49,065, said Sheldon Danziger, professor of public policy at the University of Michigan.

Those who do not have college degrees were particularly hard hit, he said. “The median, full-time male worker has made no progress on average,” Mr. Danziger said.

[-] 1 points by pasafist (2) 3 years ago

hi love what you are doing

[-] 1 points by pasafist (2) 3 years ago

hi love what you are doing

[-] 1 points by fairview (4) from Flippin, AR 3 years ago

Try this for a goal of the movement

                                                     Congressional Reform Act of 2011
  1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman / woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.
  2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in the congressional retirement fund shall be moved to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose. 3.Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all American TAX PAYERS do. 4.Congressmen's pay will be cut in half to start to come into line at least with upper middle class citizen's earnings. 5.Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
  3. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.
  4. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people and will enact no law by which they are exempt.
  5. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12. The American people did not make these contracts with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work. 9.Campaigns for office will no longer be permitted for either state or federal office. PARTIES WILL BE ILLEGAL. CANDIDATES WILL RUN FOR OFFICES ON AN INDIVIDUAL AND INDEPENDENT BASIS ONLY. Two avenues to present ones credentials and the platform on which they intend to run on to serve the American people will be provided and funded by the government. 1). An interactive TV channel will be installed and maintained to provide candidates video and text opportunity to present their views on all national and international issues. Viewers will be able to scroll to any candidate at their leisure to familiarize their selves with each candidate. 2). A web site dedicated to the same purpose as the TV channel will also be provided and funded by the government. Voting will take place as usual by U. S. citizens only. There will no longer be an "ELECTORAL COLLEGE." 10.IT WILL BE ILLEGAL FOR SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS, ORGANIZATIONS, INDIVIDUALS, OR ANY OTHER SOURCE to offer gifts, donations or any other form of remuneration to anyone representing “THE CITIZENS OF THE USA.”as a candidate or while in office. LOBBYING OF CANDIDATES AND OR PERSONS IN ANY OFFICE WILL RESULT IN FINES EQUAL TO THE AMOUNT OF THE CONSIDERATIONS TO BOTH DONATOR AND RECIEPTANT AND PRISON FOR BOTH OF NOT LESS THAN TEN (10) YEARS. Penalties for breaking the law shall be mandatory prison time, with no parole for any reason. Trials shall take place in the State where the crime was committed
  6. No contributions may be accepted from ANY non-US citizen or ANY foreign country.
  7. Presidential Elections shall be run in the same manner as all other offices mentioned above.
  8. Terms in office for congressmen will be limited to three, two year, terms if elected with a one year break prior to eligibility again after the third consecutive term.
  9. A special committee to determine rational, constitutional validity, wastage of funds, and whether they are in keeping with the will of the citizens will review all past bills and amendments to the constitution to revise or repeal as necessary. 15.Congress will approve neither foreign aid nor appropriate funds to any foreign government without a vote BY THE CITIZINS OF THE USA. 16.Any controversial bills directly affecting the general population, either state or federal will be placed before the citizens for a vote. This is how "WE THE POORLEY REPRESENTED PEOPLE" FIX CONGRESS. We are not looking for a hand out. We just want to keep your "Take from the poor and give to the rich congressmen" hands off of our hard- earned money.
[-] 1 points by fairview (4) from Flippin, AR 3 years ago

You might want to use this as part of the caause to stop political injustice and dorruption....

                Congressional Reform Act of 2011
  1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman / woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.
  2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in the congressional retirement fund shall be moved to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose. 3.Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all American TAX PAYERS do. 4.Congressmen's pay will be cut in half to start to come into line at least with upper middle class citizen's earnings. 5.Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
  3. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.
  4. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people and will enact no law by which they are exempt.
  5. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12. The American people did not make these contracts with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work. 9.Campaigns for office will no longer be permitted for either state or federal office. PARTIES WILL BE ILLEGAL. CANDIDATES WILL RUN FOR OFFICES ON AN INDIVIDUAL AND INDEPENDENT BASIS ONLY. Two avenues to present ones credentials and the platform on which they intend to run on to serve the American people will be provided and funded by the government. 1). An interactive TV channel will be installed and maintained to provide candidates video and text opportunity to present their views on all national and international issues. Viewers will be able to scroll to any candidate at their leisure to familiarize their selves with each candidate. 2). A web site dedicated to the same purpose as the TV channel will also be provided and funded by the government. Voting will take place as usual by U. S. citizens only. There will no longer be an "ELECTORAL COLLEGE." 10.IT WILL BE ILLEGAL FOR SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS, ORGANIZATIONS, INDIVIDUALS, OR ANY OTHER SOURCE to offer gifts, donations or any other form of remuneration to anyone representing “THE CITIZENS OF THE USA.”as a candidate or while in office. LOBBYING OF CANDIDATES AND OR PERSONS IN ANY OFFICE WILL RESULT IN FINES EQUAL TO THE AMOUNT OF THE CONSIDERATIONS TO BOTH DONATOR AND RECIEPTANT AND PRISON FOR BOTH OF NOT LESS THAN TEN (10) YEARS. Penalties for breaking the law shall be mandatory prison time, with no parole for any reason. Trials shall take place in the State where the crime was committed
  6. No contributions may be accepted from ANY non-US citizen or ANY foreign country.
  7. Presidential Elections shall be run in the same manner as all other offices mentioned above.
  8. Terms in office for congressmen will be limited to three, two year, terms if elected with a one year break prior to eligibility again after the third consecutive term.
  9. A special comity to determine rational, constitutional validity, wastage of funds, and whether they are in keeping with the will of the citizens will review all past bills and amendments to the constitution to revise or repeal as necessary. 15.Congress will approve neither foreign aid nor appropriate funds to any foreign government without a vote BY THE CITIZINS OF THE USA. 16.Any controversial bills directly affecting the general population, either state or federal will be placed before the citizens for a vote. This is how "WE THE POORLEY REPRESENTED PEOPLE" FIX CONGRESS. We are not looking for a hand out. We just want to keep your "Take from the poor and give to the rich congressmen" hands off of our hard- earned money.
[-] 1 points by fairview (4) from Flippin, AR 3 years ago

You might want to use this as part of the caause to stop political injustice and dorruption....

                Congressional Reform Act of 2011
  1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman / woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.
  2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in the congressional retirement fund shall be moved to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose. 3.Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all American TAX PAYERS do. 4.Congressmen's pay will be cut in half to start to come into line at least with upper middle class citizen's earnings. 5.Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
  3. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.
  4. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people and will enact no law by which they are exempt.
  5. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12. The American people did not make these contracts with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work. 9.Campaigns for office will no longer be permitted for either state or federal office. PARTIES WILL BE ILLEGAL. CANDIDATES WILL RUN FOR OFFICES ON AN INDIVIDUAL AND INDEPENDENT BASIS ONLY. Two avenues to present ones credentials and the platform on which they intend to run on to serve the American people will be provided and funded by the government. 1). An interactive TV channel will be installed and maintained to provide candidates video and text opportunity to present their views on all national and international issues. Viewers will be able to scroll to any candidate at their leisure to familiarize their selves with each candidate. 2). A web site dedicated to the same purpose as the TV channel will also be provided and funded by the government. Voting will take place as usual by U. S. citizens only. There will no longer be an "ELECTORAL COLLEGE." 10.IT WILL BE ILLEGAL FOR SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS, ORGANIZATIONS, INDIVIDUALS, OR ANY OTHER SOURCE to offer gifts, donations or any other form of remuneration to anyone representing “THE CITIZENS OF THE USA.”as a candidate or while in office. LOBBYING OF CANDIDATES AND OR PERSONS IN ANY OFFICE WILL RESULT IN FINES EQUAL TO THE AMOUNT OF THE CONSIDERATIONS TO BOTH DONATOR AND RECIEPTANT AND PRISON FOR BOTH OF NOT LESS THAN TEN (10) YEARS. Penalties for breaking the law shall be mandatory prison time, with no parole for any reason. Trials shall take place in the State where the crime was committed
  6. No contributions may be accepted from ANY non-US citizen or ANY foreign country.
  7. Presidential Elections shall be run in the same manner as all other offices mentioned above.
  8. Terms in office for congressmen will be limited to three, two year, terms if elected with a one year break prior to eligibility again after the third consecutive term.
  9. A special comity to determine rational, constitutional validity, wastage of funds, and whether they are in keeping with the will of the citizens will review all past bills and amendments to the constitution to revise or repeal as necessary. 15.Congress will approve neither foreign aid nor appropriate funds to any foreign government without a vote BY THE CITIZINS OF THE USA. 16.Any controversial bills directly affecting the general population, either state or federal will be placed before the citizens for a vote. This is how "WE THE POORLEY REPRESENTED PEOPLE" FIX CONGRESS. We are not looking for a hand out. We just want to keep your "Take from the poor and give to the rich congressmen" hands off of our hard- earned money.
[-] 1 points by memrosmex (15) 3 years ago

A solid first step in fixing our economic and political woes is to disqualify any person worth more than two million dollars from holding political office. The rich are too corrupted by greed to be an any benefit to the community generally. Putting the rich in government is like turning over the reins of power to a bunch of felons. The American middle class, the true creator of jobs and wealth, should control the government for the people. I look forward to some politician proposing this amendment before the greed of the already wealthy completely destroys our democratic way of life, economy and values. The foundation of our nation is not capitalism but democracy in the form of a Republic. Capitalism is nowhere even mentioned in the American Constitution. Capitalism is a tool of democracy to generate wealth and prosperity. Democracy should not be the tool of capitalism to generate wealth for a few. Capitalism is a beast that must be harnessed to pull the plow for the well-being of humanity. Now is an historic opportunity for hard-working and creative middle class Americans to assert their majority rights against a corrupt and ineffective elite who have brought the country to the brink of ruin.

[-] 1 points by WakeUpNow (2) from Palmetto Bay, FL 3 years ago

I love it when the people wake up...

[-] 1 points by caraway (2) 3 years ago

Let's talk about Gramm Leahy Act that replaced Glass Steagall Act of 1933. Ask the GOP why. Greetings form Seattle

[-] 1 points by caraway (2) 3 years ago

Let's talk about Gramm Leahy Act that replaced Glass Steagall Act of 1933. Ask the GOP why. Greetins form Seattle

[-] 1 points by acaya (4) 3 years ago

Every two years we elect representatives to congress. It's time that we collectively say goodbye to the party structure as it currently exists and move the protests to the offices of every congress member and find out if those members are going to support the movement, and if they are not, replace them. The social media that exists today give us all the method that we need to overcome the gridlock in DC. Once the people control the house, states can then remove Senators that are obstructing the will of the electorate. It's so obvious.

[-] 1 points by shadowxsx (3) from New Pekin, IN 3 years ago

What truly needs to be done is

  1. Make it a federal offense for any corporation or lobbyist to give any kind of kickback (aka "gift" when we know it is just a bribe).

  2. All meetings between politicians and lobbyists streamed live over the internet and if a secret meeting is held that politician barred immediately out of office for the rest of their life.

  3. Corporations only have the right to help the American people in these meetings (aka keep our jobs here in the US and create new jobs). No more self interest in making the bigwigs pensions bigger.

4 All campaign "donations" are for the public to give, no corporate contributions. Also all contributions would be scrutinized by a committee of non partisan REAL people that have access to all bank records for the politicians and donors. Then if contributions are traced back to a corporation, said corporation SEVERELY fined and the person who signed off charged with intent to commit treason.

Since an election year is coming up how about we get the agenda put on the ballots? That is if the voting can be truly trusted :(

[-] 1 points by Vorwell (2) 3 years ago

We are Thee 99% movement in L.A. growing!! Stilll not much in local coverage from corporate media. thank You Michael Moore!! need more voices like yours! We Are One! We Are One Voice!! VORWELL

[-] 1 points by fedup0002 (2) 3 years ago

Why protest Wall Street? To get at the root of the problem, one should be protesting, say, in London’s City where central banking originated. Or protesting in front of the Federal Reserve in Washington DC. These are real seats of power.

[-] 1 points by fedup0002 (2) 3 years ago

Why protest Wall Street? To get at the root of the problem, one should be protesting, say, in London’s City where central banking originated. Or protesting in front of the Federal Reserve in Washington DC. These are real seats of power.

[-] 1 points by MichaelT (9) 3 years ago

Canada is with you too! Mark October 15'th on your calendar and join us in Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary, and Montreal as per:

http://www.occupyto.ca/

http://www.nowtoronto.com/daily/news/story.cfm?content=182962

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2011/10/04/wall-street-protest-occupy.html

Our banks make far too much profit all the time and should have their taxes raised by 3000% each year and have that money be used for social safety nets instead of being used to build monuments to their execess!

MichaelT

[-] 1 points by MichaelT (9) 3 years ago

Canada is with you too! Mark October 15'th on your calendar and join us in Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary, and Montreal as per:

http://www.occupyto.ca/

http://www.nowtoronto.com/daily/news/story.cfm?content=182962

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2011/10/04/wall-street-protest-occupy.html

Our banks make far too much profit all the time and should have their taxes raised by 3000% each year and have that money be used for social safety nets instead of being used to build monuments to their execess!

MichaelT

[-] 1 points by JoeatNYC (2) 3 years ago

ACTIVISTS! PLEASE GO TO TARPLEY.NET AND READ:

An Emergency Program for Anti-Wall Street Protestors: Don’t Let Soros Hijack the Movement by Webster G. Tarpley, Ph.D.

ALSO SUPPORT HIS: EMERGENCY PROGRAM STOP THE DEPRESSION

[-] 1 points by Waldo (5) 3 years ago

Dear Government,

America is not a video game, when if you fail, you get another life. We get one life and one life only! It is time to come back to reality and see the world we live in! When was the last time that a congressman, or even the president got out of the office one day and truly saw the poverty in the world. And I'm not talking about major cities, I'm talking about the small towns that are struggling to balance their own budgets without taking all of the people's money.

Life is not a line graph on a computer screen where the line goes up and down depending on how people feel. But it seems to me wall street IS A LINE GRAPH.

This movement is going to leave the government with two choices, and this is the cold hard truth. Option one is to agree to the people's terms and everyone is happy. But the other option is to tighten control over the people, tax the hell out of them and try to scare them. If the government chooses option two, America will be forced to go into another civil war, because the government has become so ignorant of problems in the world.

If it does come to this, then the government will surely lose. Its 99% against 1%, and even a 1st grader knows which is bigger.

~Codename Waldo

[-] 1 points by americanspring (1) from Jersey City, NJ 3 years ago

Thanks for reminding everybody that occupywallst has a focus and its not about police brutality. Its unfortunate that the msm has only reported on that issue and not on the greater goal. Brutality must be addressed of course but keep the focus! It wouldn't surprise me if certain individuals and corporations were trying to silence the message (that most Americans already believe) by creating the police brutality issue as a diversion. Don't be diverted!

[-] 1 points by BNB (89) 3 years ago

Can someone that is here in NYC and has experience with the situation briefly discuss the bathroom situation?

[-] 1 points by BNB (89) 3 years ago

Are these comments in any kind of order?

I would like to read them in succession but it seems like they are all mixed up.

[-] 1 points by revg33k (429) from Woodstock, IL 3 years ago

Posts with a higher point value appear near the top, the up and down arrows next to the post are used for voting a post up or down. Any reply to a post, regardless of the number of votes it has received appear blow the comment it was a reply to.

[-] 1 points by BNB (89) 3 years ago

It's not my favorite way, but now I get it--which helps. Thanks.

[-] 1 points by revg33k (429) from Woodstock, IL 3 years ago

no prob

[-] 1 points by CrashJPMorgan (1) 3 years ago

I wish people here, if they have money in the banks, would take some out and go buy silver 1 ounce Eagles or 10 ounce bars. I am an economist and cannot reveal my name here but believe me when I claim that if millions of people start buying .999 silver products from their local coin and bullion dealers then the banks, JPMorgan in particular will crash.

[-] 1 points by BNB (89) 3 years ago

Are you Alex Jones? haha--maybe

I think some people like me just don't understand how buying coins works and are scared they will pay $1,000 for a $1 worth of silver.

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

Why is it that new posts get buried within older posts? Why aren't the new posts showing up on top?

[-] 1 points by revg33k (429) from Woodstock, IL 3 years ago

Posts with a higher point value appear near the top, the up and down arrows next to the post are used for voting a post up or down.

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

That's crazy. I'd like to easily be able to find the new posts, since I've already read the older ones.

[-] 1 points by revg33k (429) from Woodstock, IL 3 years ago

on the main page https://occupywallst.org/forum/ on the right hand side there is a Recent Comments side bar all comments posted since you last refreshed the page show up there.

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

Thanks for the info.

[-] 1 points by revg33k (429) from Woodstock, IL 3 years ago

no prob, the setup for this forum is not bad once you get the hang of it

[-] 1 points by gpkeslerjr (2) 3 years ago

make signs like.......we want cops and firemen..not bankers ceo's health care for first responders etc.......get them on your side.....

[-] 1 points by gpkeslerjr (2) 3 years ago

Make signs.......like........... WE WANT COPS AND FIREMEN....NOT BANKERS AND CEO'S

HEALTH CARE FOR FIRST RESPONDERS...........ETC.

Get them in your corner dude...........

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago
[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago
[-] 1 points by Terrycm (3) 3 years ago

This was a clear, honest, and inspiring message. This is exactly what we need to hear. Never loose hope, never give up.

-Terry

[-] 1 points by kagyuwindhorse (2) from Binghamton, NY 3 years ago

Please, Friends, sign our petition to ban heavy industrialization done by hydrofracking! http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/friendsofsustainabletreadwell_franklinnewyork/

[-] 1 points by mattymatt (88) from New York, NY 3 years ago

"The right to protest is part of our culture," Bloomberg said. "It's also true that there are other societal concerns. You're worried about sanitation and you're worried about lots of different laws on the books."

Sorry Bloomberg but you're wrong - there's no asterisk next to the 1st amendment that says you have a right to protest - but not if things get a little dirty.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2011/09/protesters-may-not-be-able-to-park-it-forever-mayor-bloomberg-says

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

Right. There are only a few reasons where government can legally and constitutionally interfere with protests. If a protest is non-violent and isn't breaking any laws or interfering with certain things, then the protest has to be allowed. It can't be stopped just because some cops or legislators or wealthy crooks or mayors don't agree with the protest's message.

[-] 1 points by RichZubaty (37) from Wailuku, HI 3 years ago

Well said! Thank you. Thank all of you for being there and doing this.

[-] 1 points by Robespierre (89) 3 years ago

The Invisible Committee analyzed how it is possible for a police officer to believe that, somehow, he "doesn't support" evictions, etc. -- even though, of course, no one offers more material support for evictions than a cop.

I quote: What we call existential liberalism is the adherence to a series of evidents marked by a constant propensity of the subject to betrayal. It is evident, for example, that everyone acts in their own interest, and no-one can be accused of infamy for becoming exactly the kind of bastard he would spit on as a young man. We have been taught to function at a lower gear in which we are relieved of the very idea of betrayal. This emotional lower gear is the guarantee we have accepted of our becoming-adult. Along with, for the most zealous, the mirage of an affective self-sufficiency as an insuperable ideal. And yet there is simply too much to betray for those who decide to keep the promises which they have carried since childhood.

[...]

You will never be a better citizen than when you are capable of renouncing a relation or a struggle in order to maintain your place. It will not always be exactly easy going, but that is precisely where existential liberalism is efficient: it even provides the remedies to the discomforts that it generates. The cheque to Amnesty International, the fair trade coffee, the demo against the last war, seeing the last Michael Moore film, are so many non-acts disguised as salvational gestures. Carry on exactly as normal, that is to say go for a walk in the designated spaces and do your shopping, the same as always, but on top of that, additionally, ease your conscience; buy No Logo, boycott Shell, this should be enough to convince you that political action, in fact, does not require much, and that you too are capable of “engaging” yourself.

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It is impossible for an NYPD officer to "remain in solidarity" with protesters, unless he refuses his orders, or resigns, or leaks information, or is otherwise derelict of his professional duties. It is important to see through this false "solidarity" and "support" that claims to be compatible with material support for the enemy.

It is no different from the rich banker who says, "oh, it would be nice if the world was fair -- but as long as it's unfair in my advantage, I'm going to do everything I can to keep things the way they are!" It is no different from the nazi collaborator who says, "I don't believe in what the nazis do either -- but I'm not going to risk my neck!" It is not "solidarity" -- it's just being two-faced.

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

Agreed, agreed, agreed, agreed, but hey, you are saying too many truths at once, we are not ready for that yet.

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

As Michael Moore said, there are millions upon millions of us; while there are only hundreds of them. We CAN take back the power.

[-] 1 points by rustylyan (12) 3 years ago

I love Michael Moore Is he a revolutionist ?

[-] 1 points by Robespierre (89) 3 years ago

That's one way of accounting. But actually, those "hundreds" employ "one million guards" more who are armed, organized, and prepared to protect them against the "millions upon millions"...

[-] 1 points by Chicakasaw (2) from Alvarado, TX 3 years ago

the purpose of the second amendment of the constitution is to protect us against oppression and tyranny The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, along with the rest of the Bill of Rights. It was not so we would have the right to go hunting!

[-] 1 points by HardWorkinDaddy (6) 3 years ago

We have the right have crappier weapons than they have so we'll be outgunned. We aren't Libya. There is no world police to give the people of the USA guns and air support. Violence and bullets isn't the way forward

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

See "Guerrilla Warfare".

[-] 1 points by Jepardy (1) from Grand Rapids Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

This is going on right now. Today. People from all across the country are taking to the streets and protesting. Peaceful assembly of the 99%, pushing for the changes to lead to true freedom. Go ahead and be scared, you should be. Not of our message, not of us, but of what this means. This is the change the world has been waiting to see. This is the cure to what the government likes to pretend is nothing more then a scrapped knee when in fact it’s a cancer. A cancer called Corporation and greed. Stand up, fight back. Only this time, we’re not using fists. We are using the power of the word, of the people, and the peaceful assembly.

Hold on Wall ST. The rest of the nation is coming to you aid. This IS now, this IS the revolution. You should have expected us.

[-] 1 points by Dublin99 (65) 3 years ago

Money is now a commodity instead of being a means to purchase a commodity.

Every time you spend a dollar, euro, pound, yen, the speculators make money.

Find ways to procure your goods and services without using money. Barter and exchange for small things.

Without money, they will be poor like us.

[-] 1 points by DavidKing (3) 3 years ago

Obama Global Supporters Videos!

Occupy Wall Street,

Barack Obama is the M.L.K. of our day & will continue to bring the world together to progress it like never before. In my own way, I want to play a big part in this major place in our history. People need help all around the world. There's one song for everyone & everything! For Obama 2012, I'm inviting you to be in my global video series of celebrities, people of places named after Obama & Obama supporters singing the chorus of Obama For The World (world's Obama tribute song)! ITunes! For Obama's change & America's freedom! 50% of sales go to the finishing of the new World Trade Center, Occupy Wall Street & Obama For America.

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https://donate.barackobama.com/page/outreach/view/2012/davidking

http://www.tunecore.com/music/david-king

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

Yes, if we just elect him as president all this problems will go away, and he will never surround himself by people from the trilateral commission, the council on foreign relations, and wallstreet like all those motherfuckers before him trying to screw the people. Oh no, wait, Im a little misinformed, so Im gonna go get a fucking clue and come back when I know what the fuck I'm talking about.

[-] 1 points by thagood (4) 3 years ago

Yeah, by all means do come back when you do know what-the-fuck you're talking about!

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

Yeah, I'm not at all happy about Barry hiring back some of the same criminals from Wall Street and taking contributions from Goldman Sachs and the like. He is guilty as well.

[-] 1 points by Dublin99 (65) 3 years ago

Work on the police. Get them on your side. They are just the same as the rest of us but are indoctrinated and institutionalized to be suspicious of civilians, even though are they civilians too.

The state depends on police and army to protect itself. That is fine as long as the institutions of the state are sound and serve the people. As soon as those institutions become corrupt and compromised by money, greed and power, they are no longer valid.

When that happens, it the duty of the police and army to protect the people, not the wealthy.

Police the world over are the same.

[-] 1 points by OASN (1) 3 years ago

Hi everyone, check out the New-> Occupy America Social Network!! http://occupyamerica.ning.com Post blogs, videos and meet like minded individuals!

[-] 1 points by DonQuixot (231) 3 years ago

The Norton security program has blocked your website with a message saying it is a "malicious" website, they have joined the banksters agains us, just like Paypal did with Wikileaks. You are doing a great job, the revolution of the 21st century, first one after the French Revolution was bought by banksters. The American dream is only for 1 % and the American nightmare for the rest. God bless you. Francisco, 67, Spain

[-] 1 points by DonQuixot (231) 3 years ago

The Norton security program has censored your website, and perhaps other security programs too. There is a message saying I am trying to access a "malicious" website. Incredible. I had to use another laptop without the Norton program. Norton is acting like Paypal with Wikileaks, joining banksters against the rest of us.

[-] 1 points by abobobo79 (1) from St Louis, MO 3 years ago

Delete Norton, install Avast.

[-] 1 points by LeftCon (16) from Louisburg, NC 3 years ago

While we vehemently condemn these abuses of power, we urge all who read this to remain focused on our intended message.

Sure, but don't turn down some good media coverage. These stories of these police brutalities are actually p important, moreso since they got that money yesterday, and could easily play into the overall message of the ruling class. I'd run with it and tell everyone so if I were able to be there in person.

[-] 1 points by mserfas (652) from Ashland, PA 3 years ago

I just read a Reuters wire about the terrible effects of cutting $1 trillion in defense spending - the loss of 160,000 jobs, "good, high paying jobs", according to one of the defense contractors. http://news.yahoo.com/fear-cuts-may-hurt-u-defense-industry-051233477.html After all, that's only $6 million in public spending per job, a veritable bargain! (Though the Solyndra project beat this with 1000 jobs for $535 million, they didn't last...)

As I was reading this, it dawned on me: why don't we just pay these people to burn money? For $6 million, 50 weeks a year, 40 hours a week, we can hire someone to burn $2500 each hour ($1 a second, once you figure in lunch, breaks, training, and fire safety seminars) and take home $500 for himself. We can all pass the hat to make sure these people keep a roof over their heads.

Of course, by comparison, the notion of giving all of the poor a few thousand dollars in welfare is just outrageous. The notion of subsidizing ordinary jobs directly, offering a few thousand dollars in outside funding to businesses who arrange to hire a few tens of millions of unemployed Americans - not even worth considering. After all, thousands for millions adds up to billions of dollars, an inconceivable sum.

[-] 1 points by powertothepeople (1264) 3 years ago

Part of that 1 trillion dollars could be reinvested in education and the displaced workers put to work enriching fellow human beings instead of helping to destroy them.

[-] 1 points by AsteroidBlues (6) from Dubuque, IA 3 years ago

Agreed. An article went around saying if it wasnt for the police brutality this protest would have died out. I disagree, its because of the corporations brutality that this wont die out. Keep focused on that, dont let the media pin us down. Viva la revolution!

[-] 1 points by dakotaman (1) 3 years ago

It is Global !!! It takes time....but the quicker people wake up and join the masses that already have been standing up. the quicker we (the 99%) will take back our countries and turn things around so we will all be winners...Just remember it may take years to get the problems unwound, this has been messed up for many years, it should of happened 40 years ago.

[-] 1 points by spatztakesaction (3) 3 years ago

THANK YOU for making it clear that the police are not your enemy. I've seen too many young anarchists waving slogans of "F--- Cops" How is this going to solve anything? Think of that the next time you see a cop putting themselves in danger to save someon's life. Please do continue to expose instances of excessive force by some policemen. I would dare to say that most policemen and policewomen are people who chose to become officers because they truly want to "serve and protect" the people. It's very hard to remain calm in a situation like this. Please try to show respect to the police and ask them to protect you. How about signs that say "Police: protect us!" and "Police: we're marching for you" Thank you for your courage.

[-] 1 points by atheve3 (34) 3 years ago

I agree with u 100% and we must stand up to corporation tyranny!!

[-] 1 points by spatztakesaction (3) 3 years ago

THANK YOU for making it clear that the police are not your enemy. I've seen too many young anarchists waving slogans of "F--- Cops" How is this going to solve anything? Think of that the next time you see a cop putting themselves in danger to save someone's life. Please do continue to expose instances of excessive force by some policemen. I would dare to say that most policemen and policewomen are people who chose to become officers because they truly want to "serve and protect" the people. It's very hard to remain calm in a situation like this. Please try to show respect to the police and ask them to protect you. How about signs that say "Police: protect us!" and "Police: we're marching for you" Thank you for your courage

[-] 1 points by spatztakesaction (3) 3 years ago

THANK YOU for making it clear that the police are not your enemy. I've seen too many young anarchists waving slogans of "F--- Cops" How is this going to solve anything? Think of that the next time you see a cop putting themselves in danger to save someone's life. Please do continue to expose instances of excessive force by some policemen. I would dare to say that most policemen and policewomen are people who chose to become officers because they truly want to "serve and protect" the people. It's very hard to remain calm in a situation like this. Please try to show respect to the police and ask them to protect you. How about signs that say "Police: protect us!" and "Police: we're marching for you" Thank you for your courage

[-] 1 points by iggy (1) 3 years ago

There's now a song about the movement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuEcO7tmxkw

[-] 1 points by hitchhiker42 (2) 3 years ago

Guys, I'm all for reform of the way corporates treat employees. Ask for reform of the labor rules in order to bridge the middle class. Not so much an increase in the minimal wage (that would hurt small business) but that each employee hired must make at least minimal wage OR 1% of the gross CEO pay (including benefits)... which ever of the two means more money for the people.

This would make the wealthy spend (or cut employees/ locations opening room for small business to take over).

Imagine if you brought in just 1% of what the CEO made for sweating your ass off while he is playing golf trying to open more locations

[-] 1 points by hitchhiker42 (2) 3 years ago

I mean really why settle at 1% say 2% or 3%. The average exec makes about 10million a year. Where most of the employees only make 24-30 a year. If you forced them to pay a minimal of 1 percent that would mean each employee would be making 100,000 a year min salary. (that would make flipping burgers at McDs kind of a good job right?)

And when the CEOs say they could never afford it the response would be cut your own salary/ benefits until you can... if they close locations. Open up a small business in its place. There are solutions, we might just have to tighten up our belts a bit more and demand it.

[-] 1 points by BNB (89) 3 years ago

Right. That was Jerry Rubin and he didn't "see the light" he just got scared and sold out.

I'd like to see Bloomberg sit 20 porta johns up in the park. That would be an impressive act on his part.

I have been concerned about people being able to access bathrooms--including myself. I was told by a few over nighters that it's not a problem--but it seems strange--there are hundreds. If it grows (one committee member told me) they will have to find or bring in bathrooms. Any thoughts?

[-] 1 points by BNB (89) 3 years ago

Right. That was Jerry Rubin and he didn't "see the light" he just got scared and sold out.

I'd like to see Bloomberg sit 20 porta johns up in the park. That would be an impressive act on his part.

I have been concerned about people being able to access bathrooms--including myself. I was told by a few over nighters that it's not a problem--but it seems strange--there are hundreds. If it grows (one committee member told me) they will have to find or bring in bathrooms. Any thoughts?

[-] 1 points by beccatxvt (11) from Pittsfield, MA 3 years ago

Has anyone in the movement considered using the Van Jones "Contract For The American Dream" as a workable template to frame the #OWS message? What we are asking for as working class Americans is all right there in the contract.

[-] 1 points by Echwell (7) from Rijsbergen, NB 3 years ago

Goodday beautiful people. might i say that there is a lot of footage and talk about the actions from NYPD? Its good to point out where they go wrong, but to still be talking and twittering and what not about the one d*ckhead with the pepperspray take the focus away from our cause. It also makes us look like a bunch of winers. You say they express solidarity. In that case it is a shame we see you on video confronting them, almost provocing them. Shout at the banks, not the boys in blue. Having been in protests like these myself, i can say that what you are facing is nothing really dramatic. It is injust, it is provocative, jes. But there's no hardhats, no sticks, no robocop-armorsuits. no teargas/waterspray tanks. Aks anyone who was in Seattle and such places. When arrested you are let go within a day or two. You know you will be because 99% of these arrests are illegal, and above all they know that every detainee is know by the others, and their actions are recorded. You have to be honest that some are provocative towards police, or make to much of a scene when arrested. Please don't, Keep your dignity. Yelling shameshameshame causes frustration even among the cops on our side. I do understand the frustration on the protesters side, do not underestimate that. But keep avoiding them, give them room, dont provoke, keep regrouping, keep being smarter and keep informing them. White collar too. We are all humans. The time they come with heavy artillery to push you out is when its does get dramatic and you have every right to use 'psychological violence'. until then i would urge you to keep being wiser, friendlier and a good example of how you want your world to be. Nonetheless i am a 100% behind you all, admire your patience and restraint. OneLove from the Netherlands.

[-] 1 points by BUGABOO (2) 3 years ago

Why don't you guys try to hammer home the 50 cent stock trade surcharge that (as Forbes magazine says) would generate 350 billion dollars per year: all of which could go to people who actually need it! People need to know what the protest is about and that would a rallying point for all the people who want to give support but aren't quite sure what they're supporting. Who knows maybe it could end up a 'talking point' in the mainstream!

[-] 1 points by creat3d (8) 3 years ago

I can't believe at this point people are still saying "why don't you guys demand this or that". Listen buddy, if the problems around you can be summarized in just one simple demand I don't know what to tell you. You might want to check out everything that's come out in the news and all that hasn't for the past decades?

[-] 1 points by Syllamo (1) 3 years ago

How can one NOT know what they are fighting for. They are fighting for a future; one which is not ruled by MONEY and more HUMAN one that we may be proud to leave to the generations to come. You don`t need a CAUSE to support what is RIGHT.

[-] 1 points by BUGABOO (2) 3 years ago

Why don't you guys try to hammer home the 50 cent stock trade surcharge that (as Forbes magazine says) would generate 350 billion dollars per year: all of which could go to people who actually need it! People need to know what the protest is about and that would a rallying point for all the people who want to give support but aren't quite sure what they're supporting. Who knows maybe it could end up a 'talking point' in the mainstream!

[-] 1 points by anonymousvoice (1) 3 years ago

Socialism or Libertarianism? Doesn't really matter. Both seek to end the corrupt relationship between Government and Banks. Difference of opinion on the solution should not affect camaraderie in fighting the common enemy.

[-] 1 points by atheve3 (34) 3 years ago

I agree!!!

[-] 1 points by RobertNDavis (133) 3 years ago

I like Chomsky's "Libertarian Socialist" view.

By the way, I got tired of answering "Why are the protestors protesting?" questions and made a blog post about it. Feel free to use any of it that you like: http://robertdavis.info/?p=167 There's an interesting piece about Goldman Sachs linked at the bottom of it.

[-] 1 points by Robespierre (89) 3 years ago

That's a completely different meaning of "libertarian"

[-] 1 points by RobertNDavis (133) 3 years ago

Indeed it is. ;9)

[-] 1 points by Robespierre (89) 3 years ago

Libertarianism would only grant more absolute power to owners of businesses... that's why it gets funded from those who support business power... Sorry but libertarians are the dupes of the owning class.

[-] 1 points by thagood (4) 3 years ago

Just about all of the misconceived ideas that have the worlds economy on its knees and have resulted in the wildly disproportional distribution of wealth in this country were conceived in libertarian think tanks and incorporated into mainstream political thought with a woeful result.

The libertarian mantra is reason, reason my ass!

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

Also known as a pincer manoeuvre, they dont stand a chance if they are pressured from the "left" and from the "right". More generally, Open Source Warfare.

[-] 1 points by powertothepeople (1264) 3 years ago

Exactly. The 99% need to focus on our common goals, not our differences. Unite to work together for what will benefit us all.

[-] 1 points by Robespierre (89) 3 years ago

The problem with this idea is that many of the 99% believe in political doctrines made up by the 1% in order to support their right to continued power.

[-] 1 points by melvin (1) from Ljubljana, Ljubljana 3 years ago

We are watching you from all over the world and it is truly a blessing. You know the cause is right and you have an extraordinary atmosphere there. Keep it up, we are with you. With our hearts and minds... We are the 99% and we will not go away!

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[-] 1 points by Echwell (7) from Rijsbergen, NB 3 years ago

Who said anything about communism? Sound like you are misguided by... what? The point is not the job. It is the future. The childeren, the Earth, the dignity of humanity. that you are not bothered by anything is good, i am happy for you. but judging and ridiculing people who see what goes wrong and adress it in a peacefull way is ignorant, and shows you are not very compassionate a person. And that i am sorry for. I wish soemone around you would have dared to tell you how the world really works.

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[-] 1 points by mserfas (652) from Ashland, PA 3 years ago

Asking questions is the first step in the right direction. Telling people to find a job is great advice; the protesters wouldn't mind a society with ready access to employment. But today when one person gets a job, another loses one - there's always someone with plenty of time to march on Wall Street. The unemployment rate is over 9%, the U6 unemployment rate over 17%, and the actual overall workforce participation rate is steadily dropping, now below 64%.

If you want people to have jobs, and stop complaining, consider urging Congress to make some basic reform: such as using an increase in overall corporate taxes or taxes on the wealthy to permit a tax write-off of equal total dollar value for employers per worker they hire. Companies claim that it costs them anywhere from $1500 to $6000 to go through the paperwork and hassle of hiring a new employee - don't just let them write it off but give them a tax credit for the entire amount. Paid for by the myriad companies currently sitting on a huge pile of cash profits but which are unwilling to hire a single U.S. worker. The Republicans keep talking about rewarding "job creators", but that should mean actually rewarding job creation, not just giving away money to the very rich like worshippers bringing sacrifices to a pagan idol.

[-] 1 points by GWinstanley (1) 3 years ago

Can someone please stop maxdugan spamming. He's made his point. To paraphrase my interpretation of that point: "Get back in line and shut up, Peasants!"

[-] 1 points by kasha (2) 3 years ago

"Whether perpetrated by Wall Street bankers or members of the NYPD, it is the duty of all citizens to oppose injustice. "

Just want to point out that is isn't only citizens who struggle for justice or who are part of this movement.

[-] 0 points by Cancelcurrency (72) from Anchorage, AK 3 years ago

And here is some more for hard workers and rich: If you think you can buy happiness or eternal life you have to think more...

[-] 0 points by Cancelcurrency (72) from Anchorage, AK 3 years ago

Good answer to all dumb and low class from 99%, Krankie! Looks like you are putting your patriotism, intelligence and reputation as american, higher than your money! I think it is stupid to do opposite like geepers does. Because if we loose our country or economy, what then our money good for? To pay chinese with it to learn their language so you can ask chinese boss for a job? Ha-ha!

[-] 0 points by geepers (1) 3 years ago

How about a movement called OCCUPY JOB - it is a novel idea where people who are lazy like the "occupy wall street people" grow up and start to contribute to their own welfare and well being. When I was just out of college I worked at Mcdonalds until I got a career oriented job. Nothing wrong with hard work! Now I make a decent living, own my house, and have a decent 401k.

GROW UP FOOLS

[-] 2 points by TheHumanoidTyphoon (30) from Coral Springs, FL 3 years ago

... How stupid can someone be? No one here is saying there is anything wrong with hard work. Leaving your family and friends to go and do something grand and important IS hard work. You need to grow up and realize that human beings are part of a species and as a whole need to look out for one another.Travesties committed in the name of big business, dictatorship or any other medium are still travesties and should be opposed by any rational human being.

[-] 1 points by HardWorkinDaddy (6) 3 years ago

I work in a restaurant and I work hard 6 days a week. We turn people away in the scores every week.A restaurant job is not something everyone can do,by inclination or SUPPLY!! OCCUPY JOB is something my mother(Master's degree in special ed), father(Master's degree in mathmatics) and wife(years of pest control experience) would love to do. IS THERE A JOB FOR THEM?!? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are not enough jobs to go around, not even the restaurant jobs some seem to think are in HUGE supply. The restaurants are like all businesses now...they have less staff to do the same job as they did 10 years ago. There are VERY few jobs to be had. Each opening gets scores, if not hundreds of applicants. It is VERY bad to be looking for a job now. @geepers is anyone you know personally unemployed? chronically unemployed?

[-] 1 points by deniality (3) 3 years ago

newbie on the internet please correct spelling and translate, no more time available for me now to carry on ,will try and contribute,further in future ,if I am still free!and alive! have been working my whole flippin life only to be in deeper financial trouble ,without having spent any on luxuries,but it is not only for me, reality is we :normal citizens in many parts of the world are having a really tough time,find solutions ,be proactive,be constructive ,be realistic,be humble ,but don't be a sheep,get those blinds off yer eyes ...right get a job --where ? start your own ,and have it all stolen,over and over ,and burnt down have your family property devalued become poor ! right who is the lazy fool now ? see fellow citizens starve and kill each other dirty politics are failing yipeeeee

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[-] 1 points by Fun (1) 3 years ago

Geepers... You think you are an example of how the be an adult? A wage slave?No great inventor or achiever of any monumental thing has a work slave mentality. It is innovation and ingenuity that bring new ideas to the playing field. "Rebels" have always been the greater contributor to new ideas, inventions and innovations. You are pathetic to herald yourself as an example of "a grown up".... Get a life that you can be truly proud of... Be original! Give us an independent thought. stop being a "cookie cutter clone" .... it's boring!

[-] 1 points by nkp (33) 3 years ago

So you think that it is perfectly acceptable to use welfare programs, that drain money from everyone, to be a rebel? Maybe if you supported yourself you could be a rebel in your own time, on your own money!

[-] 1 points by HardWorkinDaddy (6) 3 years ago

If there were JOBS and OPPORTUNITY we wouldn't need to get welfare or rebellion. BTW, on a restaurant job I still need welfare to support my family. Why? Because I make $13 an hour after eight years. I still go. I go to community college to make it better, while digging a nice debt hole on student loans.

[-] 1 points by yasminec001 (584) 3 years ago

Agreed.

[-] 0 points by creat3d (8) 3 years ago

Looks like the trolls are coming out in full force! Tea party?? HA! Misguided hippies? Need to find a job? Looks like some 1 percenters are getting mad... problem? :P

[-] 0 points by anonymousvoice (1) 3 years ago

Occupy Wall Street NEEDS to invite the Tea Party to its party and unify this country. It is a great OBVIOUS gaping irony that these two movements, which share a common enemy, that being the corrupt influence of money in our political system, are being portrayed along the fabricated partisan divide, rather than opposite ends of the same spectrum. Occupy Wall Street is going after the banks and the Tea Party is going after the government. Meanwhile the Government, the Banks, through the help of the partisan Media are going to do everything in their power to make these groups into enemies and further divide the country in order to distract from what is really going on.

[-] 1 points by thagood (4) 3 years ago

If the Tea Party is 'against the corrupt influence of money, why are they taking money from the Kock brothers?

You just don't get it, do you?

The big banks were able to do their monkey-business because of deregulation. The Tea Party abhors regulation, they disrupt public meetings, like to make a big deal of arming themselves, don't know the difference between Obama and Hitler and they are atrocious spellers.

There is absolutely not one atom of equivalence between these two movements!

[-] 1 points by atheve3 (34) 3 years ago

Let's make a petition out of this and unite!!!!

[-] 1 points by beccatxvt (11) from Pittsfield, MA 3 years ago

@anonymousvoice...Bravo. Well put! And furthermore, the lines between government and banks are blurred anyway....they are kinda the same thing now, so we are all fighting the same beast with different swords. Although a liberal I have been reaching out somewhat to the TP. I actually devised a debate/group discussion formula to be used in a facilitative forum where Liberals and Neocons are encouraged to participate in a healthy and fair and productive dialogue/debate It can be done.

[-] 1 points by atheve3 (34) 3 years ago

I agree!!!! Is freedom of speech still protected in United States????

[-] 1 points by b33m3R (23) from Alpharetta, GA 3 years ago

The Tea Party is paid for by the corporations, it would be a conflict of interest. Going after the government is useless, it's obvious who they (and the media) work for at this point. You have to let the ones running the show that we all know it is they who are running things and it is they who bare the brunt of the people frustrations. Get them in line, get them a little scared, their underlings will follow.

[-] 0 points by occupystrikeresist (57) 3 years ago

we will win. solidarity from someone kicked out of college for an occupation against budget cuts! the lie of austerity ends here! we know that the debt is huge because corporations dodged taxes for the last 40 years. Now they want us to pay for that. Hell no!

[-] -1 points by maxdugan (-1) 3 years ago

You people are misguided idiots. The communists are fanning your irrational fears. Greed is good. Capitalism works. Communisim is a bankrupt philosophy that is always doomed for failure. Ask any Russian. They want CAPITALISM.

Go home and find a job. There are plenty of employers looking for help. For the moment the pay may not be the greatest but its a job and besides, working is good for the soul.

Abbe Hoffman, the great communist of the 1960s, one of the top leaders of Flower Power movement saw the light and pursued a successful career on Wall Street.

Go home to your families and find a job.

[-] 2 points by beccatxvt (11) from Pittsfield, MA 3 years ago

Typical Divisive "Rival Football Team" commentary on Socialism VS Capitalism. Why is it that one cannot consider Improving capitalism and addressing its flaws without being called a Socialist? I never understood this. Why cannot one discuss the pitfalls of socialism without being deemed a heartless capitalist either? What if we created a THIRD system based on the best practices ? Would that not be a great challenge? Are some people's brains constructed in such a way that they have to only think in black and white simple terms? I don't get it!

[-] 1 points by atheve3 (34) 3 years ago

U r so right!!! Nobody wants socialism!!! Everybody deserves a fair opportunity to do business without corporate thugs putting people out of business.

[-] 1 points by beccatxvt (11) from Pittsfield, MA 3 years ago

@atheve3, Thanks and BTW...my boyfriend leans to the right and I lean to the left, but we have GREAT conversations and come up with some good solutions for the economy based on the fact that we are different.

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

I totally agree. I always have said the best system would be a good balance between socialism and capitalism and that just one or the other is not good. The ones in favor of only capitalism and who continue to condemn socialism (and call it communism, mistakenly) are nothing but gluttons.

[-] 1 points by occupystrikeresist (57) 3 years ago

mixed economies can be found in Scandanavian countries. they do a great job.

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

Yep.... and there are people here who continue to refute that it works.

[-] 1 points by Tartessos (1) from Sacramento, CA 3 years ago

"Capitalism works."

Yes, capitalism works quite well when there are a lot of firms competing for business. That is not what we have. We have functional oligopolies in every major industry in America, and they collude with the government and each other to prevent the market from functioning as it should. If you understood basic macroeconomics you would understand this: undue concentration of market power screws up capitalism.

[-] 1 points by atheve3 (34) 3 years ago

U r so right!!

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

I have a job. If I was in NYC or if a protest starts up in my neighborhood, I'll be there. Don't be a jackass by accusing all protesters of not having jobs.

"Greed is good". Capitalism works for the greedy.

[-] 1 points by DonQuixot (231) 3 years ago

Maxdugan, tell the CIA you deserve a pay rise. Insults say a lot about the sender, nothing about the recipient.

[-] 1 points by b33m3R (23) from Alpharetta, GA 3 years ago

No matter how far a jackass travels, it won't come back a horse.

Go home troll.

[-] 1 points by formul8 (16) from Ixelles, Brussels 3 years ago

i am curious how the movement plans to deal with maxdugan's. I was thinking of a non-violent, peaceful HEADBUTT.

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

maxdugan's are easy, its more subtle forms of subversion that are dangerous.

[-] 1 points by powertothepeople (1264) 3 years ago

You don't have your facts straight on more than one count. Easily corrected is your comment about Abbie Hoffman. It wasn't Abbie Hoffman who "pursued a successful career on Wall Street". Abbie Hoffman lived as a fugitive from justice for eight years (drug charges). Despite living underground, he became a more lowprofile environmental activist in his local community. After turning himself in in 1980, he resurfaced, served four months in prison & then resumed being a public activist & writing. He was arrested again for demonstrating at Amherst. He continued to work for freedom & justice until his death in the 80s. He also never founded any "Flower Power" movement - he was one of the founders of the Youth International Party (the Yippies) & organized the notorious demonstrations at the 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago. Any young OWS folk who aren't aware of Abbie Hoffman, may want to use the Google & see what they can learn from the history of Abbie & the Yippies.

[-] 2 points by vitusbering (2) 3 years ago

Yea, Abbie would´ve rather cut his leg off, than doing any "career" on wall street. greetings from austria. we are marching too on oct. 15th

[-] 0 points by thinker (0) 3 years ago

for maxdugan

idiots? China is is a single-party state governed by the Communist Party of China. We, Americans, capitalists, are deeply indebted to this communist country. it seems that this communist country is better at capitalism than we are. So, how does your flat, angry, uneducated argument make any sense? You see, the world is much different than you have been led to believe. I advice you to actively questions things. Be skeptical. Seek your own answers and submit only to the authority of your reason.

Note- I will not be responding to your response as I am sure it will stoop down to the level of name calling and stubborn personal jabs