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Retribution Against the Financial Elite!

Day 12

Posted 2 years ago on Sept. 29, 2011, 10:26 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt

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[-] 3 points by ourfuture (3) 2 years ago

No leader, no demand, only one aim: to overthrow the System.

It is wise that there be no leader. Otherwise, the movement will be personified into one person. The imperfections of that person will become that of the movement. The existence of the movement becomes dependent on that of its leader. This makes it easy for the System to destroy the movement; all it takes is to destroy the leader. We have seen this in the war on terrorism and Libya.

The aim of this movement is not to make demands on the System but to overthrow it. It is unwise to make demands because once they are met, the movement will become irrelevant.

The movement is growing like the tool it is using so effectively i.e. the Internet. General Assemblies arising in various cities and getting interconnected to each other are like the nodes of the Internet coming into existence and getting interconnected as a whole. This is a system where the power of individual part is limited and localised. But as an interconnect whole, the emergent power is more than the sum of its parts. That's the way it should develop.

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 2 years ago

Exactly, give them nothing to shoot, no concrete demand to pick on, you cannot fight a ghost.

[-] 3 points by walker (20) from Starkville, MS 2 years ago

every time i get to see another days new report reinforces my intentions and pushes me a few extra miles every day. just about 900 miles to go see you guys in about 18 days give or take a few. there is three of us now just to keep ya'll updated. here is to hoping i have hundreds by the time i make it.

[-] 2 points by GarnetMoon (424) 2 years ago

Thanks for the update, walker...stay safe!

[-] 2 points by brooklyn4life (18) 2 years ago

Was bummed when the GA needed so much time to explain hand gestures to newcomers (who are the future of #OccupyWallSt) and thought people could distribute their meaning (physically or digitally) in advance to let the GA hit the ground running right outta the gates.

http://i51.tinypic.com/kcntxj.jpg

If edits/re-purposing are needed - heres the editable PDF: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4UJH50C9

[-] 2 points by fighton (15) 2 years ago

They told us those banks are too big to fail. We believe they have failed so badly that they should be felled.

[-] 2 points by come2gether (4) from New York, NY 2 years ago

IF you folks could list the day's accomplishments on the website. that would be great for all to see.

[-] 2 points by AnonymousUScitizen (59) from Dillon, Mt 2 years ago

For the livestreams from Greece, Spain, etc, is it possible to get slightly delayed translated closed captions? Can they be optional if so?

Where's the Chicago, L.A., and SF live streams?

Communication between the Assemblies will become increasingly important in the near future.

[-] 2 points by Able (5) 2 years ago

We are the 9%.

The 9% of Americans experiencing unemployment.

[-] 2 points by Able (5) 2 years ago

One Word?

Poor

[-] 1 points by memrosmex (15) 2 years ago

A solid first step in fixing our economic and political woes is to disqualify any person worth more than two million dollars from holding political office. The rich are too corrupted by greed to be an any benefit to the community generally. Putting the rich in government is like turning over the reins of power to a bunch of felons. The American middle class, the true creator of jobs and wealth, should control the government for the people. I look forward to some politician proposing this amendment before the greed of the already wealthy completely destroys our democratic way of life, economy and values. The foundation of our nation is not capitalism but democracy in the form of a Republic. Capitalism is nowhere even mentioned in the American Constitution. Capitalism is a tool of democracy to generate wealth and prosperity. Democracy should not be the tool of capitalism to generate wealth for a few. Capitalism is a beast that must be harnessed to pull the plow for the well-being of humanity. Now is an historic opportunity for hard-working and creative middle class Americans to assert their majority rights against a corrupt and ineffective elite who have brought the country to the brink of ruin.

[-] 1 points by robinn505 (2) from Albuquerque, NM 2 years ago

Finally,us the peasents are revolting, sorry i missed the protest in Albuquerque, NM \m/. The four fathers would be finally proud of us, NOT the tea party of today is nothing but a embarrassment to everything they stood for!!!!!!!!

[-] 1 points by robinn505 (2) from Albuquerque, NM 2 years ago

Finally,us the peasents are revolting, sorry i missed the protest in Albuquerque, NM \m/. The four fathers would be finally proud of us, NOT the tea party of today is nothing but a embarrassment to everything they stood for!!!!!!!!

[-] 1 points by MichaelT (9) 2 years ago

Canada is with you too! Mark October 15'th on your calendar and join us in Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary, and Montreal as per:

http://www.occupyto.ca/

http://www.nowtoronto.com/daily/news/story.cfm?content=182962

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2011/10/04/wall-street-protest-occupy.html

Our banks make far too much profit all the time and should have their taxes raised by 3000% each year and have that money be used for social safety nets instead of being used to build monuments to their execess!

MichaelT

[-] 1 points by mattymatt (88) from New York, NY 2 years ago

"The right to protest is part of our culture," Bloomberg said. "It's also true that there are other societal concerns. You're worried about sanitation and you're worried about lots of different laws on the books."

Sorry Bloomberg but you're wrong - there's no asterisk next to the 1st amendment that says you have a right to protest - but not if things get a little dirty.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2011/09/protesters-may-not-be-able-to-park-it-forever-mayor-bloomberg-says

[-] 1 points by Time4Attention (7) from Altamonte Springs, FL 2 years ago

One word? LOVE.

[-] 1 points by perceptionasreality (5) 2 years ago

Russell Simons is worth $354 Million... I hope he donated to the cause...

[-] 1 points by perceptionasreality (5) 2 years ago

Russell Simons is worth $354 Million... I hope he donated to the cause...

[-] 1 points by kagyuwindhorse (2) from Binghamton, NY 2 years ago

one word: LOVE.

[-] 1 points by FHampton (309) 2 years ago

"If we’re trying to learn how to have each other’s backs, how to trust and depend on each other moving forward, then we need to put ourselves in situations that demand that kind of strength and solidarity. And I don’t mean taking people’s sides in arguments over assembly process."

http://occupyca.wordpress.com/2011/09/27/occupied-wall-street-some-tactical-thoughts/

[-] 1 points by thespark (16) 2 years ago

Where's the Message for Day 12?

[-] 1 points by BKelly13 (1) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

One word? Liberty.

[-] 1 points by Terrycm (3) 2 years ago

Occupy Wall Street, please hear me...

I respectfully ask you a question... Do you want to be just another 5 min segment on a nightly news program or do you want to be a chapter in our children's history book?

Just like you I desperately want the latter. I want you to take what I am about to say to heart. With honesty and perspective. This perspective is valuable precisely because of it's distance from you. I can't feel what you feel there in the park, and on the street. I can watch it, and I hear it, but I can't feel it. Help me feel your cause by making the following clear.

Your message, your goal, it's repetition, and your confidence.

Please do this with every conversation you have, every discussion you engage in, and every action you take, both online and off. Do this and you simply cannot loose.

-Terry

[-] 1 points by revg33k (429) from Woodstock, IL 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by Terrycm (3) 2 years ago

Revg33k Thank you for that. I also agree with your profile message to OWS. There are millions of us out here that would love to feel connected with you in NY, but we need a more emotional message, one we can "feel". We need something more complex than "corporate greed is bad". Most, if not all of us, have a general sense that we are being taken advantage of. We just have NO IDEA, how badly. We need an inspiring message that is simultaneously gut wrenching. We need facts, numbers, and statistics. We need art, pictures and figures... all on just how completely backwards our world is. Hit us with the reality behind our situation. People might try and look away in the beginning, but eventually, it will reach their minds and change their hearts. When you change people's thinking you change the world.

[-] 1 points by aliagee (10) 2 years ago

Terry, I'm not sleeping in Liberty Plaza (my kids need me to pick them up from school and help with homework and stuff), but I am the 99% too, and I've been visiting whenever I can.

I don't know about you, but I make art to help myself understand complex things, not to sell a message. So... I've been visiting a lot. Here is the art I made for myself. I hope it helps:

I have

Made my demands in

All the ways they told me to:

Give this candidate money.

Invest time: phone banks, AmeriCorps, sign petitions, letters. VOTE.

No one listened.

Enough with my demands.

This time, I am trying something different.

Helping, marching, shouting, feeding.

At Liberty Plaza, the 99% are trying something different.

This time, we are listening to each other.

[-] 1 points by athousandfloweringoccupations (1) from Nashville, IL 2 years ago

Terry, I agree with your concern: there need to be specifics to be taken seriously; on the other hand, as someone mentioned above, the problems on the table are interconnected, so any specific demand diverts the focus from the whole. This is why my favorite demand on the list is "abolish corporate personhood," because it seems to most sink into the heart of the issue. But, regarding your desire for facts, pictures and the like: go for it. There is no distance now; make it, post it, and its here for all of us. We can't think that just because we are sitting in our rooms hundreds of miles away that we don't have an active role to play in this.

[-] 1 points by Able (5) 2 years ago

One word?

Unemployed