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Posted 3 years ago on Sept. 25, 2011, 5:56 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt

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[-] 4 points by tttroy (10) 3 years ago

Demand our first amendment right to assemble be restored in New York... Permit to protest is a joke!!! Watch your history here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSjY-syf-QY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dHFFdAjLq8

http://blip.tv/glass-bead-collective/51-friends-in-the-park-2007-213332

[-] -3 points by Letfreedomring (-2) 3 years ago

-It seems to me that this #occupywallstreet movement is a giant headless beast. We need one person to organize, lead, and then communicate with the politicians when they finally decide to hear our cry.

-Let’s discuss what we’re protesting. The richest %1 of the U.S. has been using their vast wealth to corrupt our democracy so they can retain their wealth and earn even more money, at the expense of the other %99. Essentially, we are protesting greed. Greed is in all of us, some have higher morals than others and choose not to be as greedy, but nevertheless we are all greedy by nature. The fixable problem is corruption.

-So how can we prevent wealthy businesses from impeding their will on politicians? The way I see it, no matter how many laws we put in place, no matter how many corrupt politicians we put in place to defend those laws there will always be a dollar amount that can find a way around it. The problem lies with the politicians. Since the beginning of civilization we have had leaders. Hell, since the beginning of life we have had leaders. Before we could thoroughly communicate we had alpha-males. The strongest man in the tribe would lead us into battle and make decisions for the group. As we became civilized, brute strength alone slowly faded out as intellect, integrity, and honesty came into the picture of leadership qualities. If we look at every leader throughout history, we can see they all have the potential to be corrupted. Some were truly men of honor, and others fell to the temptations. The decisions those leaders made are irrelevant, what is relevant is the fact that the potential to be corrupted has always existed amongst our leaders. If we could somehow eliminate that potential, find a way to make it so that politicians were immune to the temptations of money, we would be one step closer to a truly free world.

-My theory is that if politicians are required to give up all their worldly possessions and live a life of poverty in exchange for the power and authority given to them by us, we would live in a much better world. This is the only way we can eliminate the potential to be corrupted. If a politician has nothing and is not allowed to have anything, then any form of bribery will be totally obvious if it does occur. This simple change would allow our current government to stay in power but would eradicate all greedy politicians. Let’s play this out in our imaginations for a minute before totally disregarding this radical idea. Let’s say you want to become a politician. You’re motivation comes from a genuine desire to better the world. However, all politicians are required to live a life of poverty. If you are a greedy person you will more than likely shy away from politics. If you truly care about the well-being of the population and are not greedy, then you will not have a problem with giving up your worldly possessions. Who do we want running our country? The people who care more about a dollar then his neighbor? Or the people who care more about the people than a dollar?

-A more in depth description of the radical poverty-politician idea-

-Politicians will not be allowed to own ANYTHING. That means no make-up, no clothing (uniforms will be provided by the gov’t), no cars, no land, no companies, nothing literally nothing. -Politicians will be provided with the following by the gov’t: food, uniforms, communication devices (cell phones and computers), transportation, housing, entertainment (television, radio, internet, leisure activities such as sports and fishing), and other basic needs. -Family: Children of politicians will be eligible for free public schooling and full scholarships to institutions of higher education. All the before mentioned provisions will be available to the children of politicians as well. Politicians should be proud to send their child off to school wearing the politician uniform, as it shows a great deal of integrity and patriotism.

Conclusion

Definition of POLITICIAN 1 : a person experienced in the art or science of government;especially : one actively engaged in conducting the businessof a government 2 a : a person engaged in party politics as a profession b : a person primarily interested in political office for selfish or other narrow usually short-sighted reasons

-Although all these definitions can be called accurate, let’s look at definition a. A politician is a person engaged in party politics as a profession.

The word profession being a part of the definition of politician just does not sit well with me. When I think of a politician, I think of a person elected by the people to serve the people. If being a politician is just a means to an end, then we will always have corrupt politicians. If being a politician is more than just a means to an end, if it is considered an extremely honorable and noble thing to do, then we will accelerate the advancement of society tremendously. Here is what I hope to change the definition of politician to. Definition of POLITICIAN A politician is a person engaged in party politics to give his life to his country, to make it a better place to live, to see to it that all people are treated equally and not just the rich.

I am certain many of you are thinking, “But if politicians must live in poverty, who would want to become a politician?” The answer is only the pure of heart. Becoming a politician will be viewed as one of the most patriotic things a person can do with their life. The reward for becoming a politician is being seen as a person who actually cares about others more than themself. The public will view politicians as heroes, instead of shady businessmen.

There are many things wrong with our government and the way it is run, there are many things that need to be changed. But the only way we will see all the changes that needs to be made is to first get the right people into positions of power. Once we have the truly pure of heart politicians in office we can.

-Eliminate the Federal Reserve and take monetary control away from private banking and give it back to the United States of America(See “Opposition to the National Bank” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson#Opposition_to_the_National_Bank) -Tax all Wall St. transactions (If all of our purchases and sales are taxed, why aren’t theirs?) -See that every taxpayer has a say in this country, not just the wealthy. -And every other great idea that can move society forward.

A final note: If you are serious about this movement then please think before you post. Think about how your post will be perceived. If you’re saying things like fuck the police and making radical suggestions then please elaborate on your ideas instead of just spewing nonsense. Every nonsensical post hurts the credibility of the entire movement.

[-] 1 points by ftheman (18) from Leslie, AR 3 years ago

Andrew Jackson? How many Cherokee did he croak on "The Trail of Tears?" Involved in virtual massacres, you know...Tippecanoe, to build his rep, he was a scum bag personified. I'm sorry. PEACE...

[-] 1 points by 722442457 (11) 3 years ago

I think party politics is part of the problem. My understanding of politics is that politicians are elected to serve as the voice of the people.With party politics politicians must toe the line on policy etc as directed by the party political machine which has not been elected by the public.Very few democratic countries practice true democracy. You need a system where everyone is able to vote on what will affect them. No one person needs to have power over another. It is easier to corrupt one person in authority than 100 who have the same power.Human greed is our biggest problem. How much is enough?

[-] 0 points by joogle (55) 3 years ago

The previous poster must realize, that single winner districts are part of the problem as to why politicians are perceived as so rich and powerful.

Once multi-winner districts are implemented, then more common folks can be elected to represent the people. The more the numbers elected per district, the more exact the representation.

For example, when 100 or 1000 people are elected simultaneously, then the chance for one or two poor or disenfranchised people will have a seat at the board.

But when a district elects only one person, the representation can be very low. Maybe only 20% actually voted for them, when the remaining 80% was split evenly five ways (16% each). In that case, the majority of 80% lost and won no representation at all.


I disagree with your idea to require that a politician live in poverty. You're skipping over the idea of diversity, which means rich and poor.

Again, the problem that has lead you to this misconception is single-winner districts and plurality voting.

Once you increase the numbers elected per district, and eradicate plurality voting (i.e. using ranked choice voting) then you solve the problem of diversity and fair representation.

Plurality voting means using an "x", click the dot, raise the hand, yes/no, punch the hole, nod the head, etc. and is based on addition.

Proportional representation (PR), ranking numbers #1, #2, #3, etc.) is based on algebra.

To learn more, check out the 8th USA Parliament: http://usparliament.org/

[-] 0 points by tttroy (10) 3 years ago

Very thoughtful and spot on post until the end. We all come here with different opinions and ideas. We certainly don't gain anything trying to scold each other. Many of us have tried to communicate some of your very thoughts through the standard forms of media. The problem is it's not getting done. The politicians, bankers and greedy capitalists are not listening and for good reason, they don't have to.

and as long as we are throwing definitions around...

pro·test [n. proh-test; v. pruh-test, proh-test] noun 1.an expression or declaration of objection, disapproval, or dissent, often in opposition to something a person is powerless to prevent or avoid: a protest against increased taxation.

If we don't have the right to assemble, then we are not being heard. I think that is clear to us all...that's why were having this conversation. I don't remember saying "fuck the police" anywhere in my post. I believe the videos I included spoke for themselves, especially after yesterday beat down. This was listed in NYCLU website "If you want to distribute handbills on a public sidewalk or in a public park; have a demonstration, rally or press conference on a public sidewalk; or march on a public sidewalk and you do not intend to use amplified sound, you do not need any permit." http://www.nyclu.org/content/know-your-rights-demonstrating-new-york-city I didn't witness protesters straying much from those points yesterday and believe the NYPD was out of line, but that again is my opinion.

thanks for being on the other end

tttrroy

[-] 1 points by Letfreedomring (-2) 3 years ago

You didn't say f* the police it was someone else, i just needed to post in a reply since the site wouldnt let me post it plainly for some odd reason

[-] 3 points by ZinnReader (92) from Encinitas, CA 3 years ago

"Changes and progress very rarely are gifts from above. They come out of struggles from below." --Noam Chomsky

[-] 2 points by bulldog831 (62) 3 years ago

99% continue peaceful, lawful protest. Police riots daily. The 99%'s constitutional rights under the US

Constitution Bill of Rights are being infringed: First Amendment – Freedom of speech and of assembly;Fourth

Amendment – Protection from unreasonable search and seizure; The 99%'s constitutional rights under the New

York State Constitution Article I "Civil Rights"are being infringed: Section 8. Freedom of speech; Section

  1. Right to assemble; Section 12. Security against unreasonable searches, seizures and interceptions.
[-] 1 points by tttroy (10) 3 years ago

New York State Constitution §9. 1. No law shall be passed abridging the rights of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government, or any department thereof; http://www.dos.state.ny.us/info/constitution.htm

[-] 1 points by bulldog831 (62) 3 years ago

Thanks for the correction of an unusual burp in my post.

[-] 1 points by 36of534 (15) 3 years ago

We are the Wall Street Protestors. Existence, as you know it, is over. We will add your Fiscal and technological distinctiveness to our own. Resistance is futile."

[-] 1 points by stardust (3) 3 years ago

Where was everybody the last 20 yrs during Wallstreet's boom? Managing their investment portfolios. It was evil then as much as now. The public was seduced then by greed, and yet is.

Wallstreet. Tear it down brick by brick, investor by investor, CEO by CEO, deadly sin by deadly sin. Starve the rats out. It won't happen playing their game, playing the media, playing politicians. From the ashes will rise the phoenix. Let's get started.

[-] 1 points by ScottStormhammer (5) from Pasco, WA 3 years ago

Americans are being taught that we have to take advantage of all opportunities to succeed, especially at the expense of our fellow citizens.

Our extreme version of capitalism has taught us this lesson, through having corporations and CEO’s and other very advantaged people becoming richer and richer while a much larger percent of people become knocked down into poverty.

There are not even enough MINIMUM WAGE jobs for everyone.

There is not enough wealth to go around, simply because the rich are allowed to maintain an inexcusable percent of the resources in the United States of America.

This lesson will eventually cause extreme legal actions, and possibly even crime if legal actions prove ineffective, which will be aimed at promoting a glimmer of hope to the vast majority of United States citizens by balancing money and opportunities fairly amongst all Americans.

I am the opposite of a proponent for disadvantaged people going crazy to the extent that crime and violence will become directed toward the rich who do not frankly give a damn about their fellow citizens, but I do think that this is a very likely outcome if money and opportunity do not become much more balanced than they are.

We need a fast changes. I would place huge bets (if I could afford them) that our country will massively weaken if the changes are not massive and widespread toward making sure we all have equal and fair opportunities.

[-] 1 points by ScottStormhammer (5) from Pasco, WA 3 years ago

Americans are being taught that we have to take advantage of all opportunities to succeed, especially at expense of our fellow citizens. Our extreme version of capitalism has taught us this lesson, through having corporations and CEO’s and other very advantaged people becoming richer and richer while a much larger percent of people become knocked down into poverty.

There are not even enough MINIMUM WAGE jobs for everyone.

There is not enough wealth to go around, simply because the rich are allowed to maintain an inexcusable percent of the resources in the United States of America.

This disgusting lesson will eventually cause extreme legal actions, and possibly even crime if legal actions prove ineffective, which will be aimed at promoting a glimmer of hope to the vast majority of United States citizens by balancing money and opportunities fairly amongst all Americans.

I am the opposite of a proponent for disadvantaged people going crazy to the extent that crime and violence will become directed toward the rich who do not frankly give a damn about their fellow citizens, but I do think that this is a very likely outcome if money and opportunity do not become much more balanced than they are.

We need a fast changes. I would place huge bets (if I could afford them) that our country will massively weaken if the changes are not massive and widespread toward making sure we all have equal and fair opportunities.

[-] 1 points by freedomforever (2) 3 years ago

Thank God people have finally come to their senses! We should all feel united in this cause. This prolonged dissent is NOT a crime. It is a reasonable and necessary means by which we may attain the salvation of our country, secure the welfare of our children and our childrens' children, and maintain stability throughout the entire world. From the bottom of my heart, I thank all of you who were brave enough to start this revolution, and those who are couragous enough to continue this fight, even in the face of retribution...I beg you to stay strong and remain peaceful in the face of brutality and inhumanity, and know that we are with you. We ARE the other 99% and we will make it known! I will pray for the safety of you all as you stand for what is morally right. (P.S. Don't forget to contact the NY State Police Commissioner to demand that disciplinary action be taken against Officer Bologna. This kind of behavior cannot be tolerated. Also, donate any spare dollars you can so that the Occupy Wall Street Journal can be printed. The truth MUST be told! Censorship is rampant in America, as is evident from the fact that I just found out about this protest today, 12 days after its start.)

[-] 1 points by fayhart (1) 3 years ago

I salute your courage. I am offering sessions to teach a simple technique to process fear. Any protesters go to http://bit.ly/nuhbdK for free phone/skype session. You are supported. www.http://bit.ly/nuhbdK

[-] 1 points by Muzhik (7) 3 years ago

There is no Middle Class. The Middle Class is dead. There are only two classes 1. The Working Class, whether employed of not, and 2.The Elites.

[-] 1 points by georgia99 (37) 3 years ago

david rockefeller is the root of alot of the evil. the rockfeller family help to start the central bank that takes our tax dollars and profits from war.

[-] 1 points by CaptainAwesome (1) 3 years ago

Please don't let this be a Tea Party for hippies. I love the spirit of your protest, but Wall Street isn't the problem guys. Wall Street is a marketplace. Where we have the problem (and this is what one of the speakers touches on in one of the videos) is with the unholy marriage between government a business. (I suppose Wall Street could be seen as the expression of this marriage, but the source is government.) The speaker in one of the videos went on to use the term "Republicrats," and I think he makes a good point. This is a problem that began with W Bush and is being exacerbated by Obama. When government plays an active role in business/capitalism, we get outsourcing, bailouts to huge companies, and companies like GE paying no taxes at all. When government does not play an active role, the consumer decides the fate of the company and its jobs. This is why we are protesting, right? We, the people, want to be heard. We Americans speak pretty clearly with our wallets.Let this be an opportunity to send a clearer message than the Tea Party. It's not as simple as "Taxed Enough Already." The message should be that our government needs to stop giving money to big business. That is what gives big businesses the advantage over the little guy. They get incentives, tax breaks, and of course, bail-outs. Let the rich people be rich people. That isn't what costs jobs. What costs jobs, and subsequently a shrinking middle class, is government manipulation of capitalism.

[-] 1 points by 1sttrueknowledge (4) 3 years ago

Rothschild of the Rothschild world banking empire said if I control a countries money I care not who rules. The banks credit-debt,credit rating systems affecting many freedoms of the People's lives with their consequences make controlled slaves of all. The Constitution says for the US to issue its own currency the US does not and did not need an outside third party to bully it's self onto and into the US nation so as to rule over it from behind (hidden within right in front of us as they laughingly like to say among themselves)these need to be rooted out from among the People and let the rule of law decide their fate from judges that are not theirs too.

[-] 1 points by chrissatori (8) from Lancaster, England 3 years ago

Watching from the UK I like what you are doing and respect your honest struggle. However, with the exception of the primary demand to end the death penalty, which would in itself be a massive result, all the demands are vague, and do not specify even one particular action with which change might be initiated.

The three seminal demands suggested by Sara1977 in another thread also make a lot of sense to me:

•Removal of corporate personhood. •Public financing of political campaigns. •Reinstatement of stiff financial regulations such as Glass-Steagall

I cannot identify how negotiation is taking place between the people's assembly and the state on your demands, nor who it might be taking place with, nor what exactly the state is supposed to do, or how it is to implement a desired response.

You seem to be suggesting that someone, presumably within the existing government structure, must work this out and undertake all this nitty gritty but I'm not sure if they've been told yet.

It's time to agree exactly on specific changes you want to see in specific and concrete terms. Preferably before some of you have to go back to school. You also need to clarify who you wish to negotiate with.

If the assembly can present one clear demand to any specific state authority for one practical action that goes beyond your own immediate protest circumstances it would help to identify the point of the campaign, which currently does seem vague from outside.

[-] 1 points by Kilo (1) from Jilava, IF 3 years ago

I am from Romania, that was under extreme left agents from the USSR between 1944-1964, and then under local commies until 1995. Here under communism people received extra food cards for telling they heard one neighbor talking about some off-the-list book or had a deported relative. And the neighbor received torture and lost their job. For belonging to the collective they made you change your friends, ideas and faiths. This regime was also about oligarchy and fooling the people with man-made utopias and in-existent enemies just as is the banker's regime. The only difference was that then they were keeping us under-nourished for paying the national debt, and now they just borrow for making un-necessary spending and filling their bellies. i hate the communist ideology as much as I hate the banksters Greed because of the oligarchy that climbs upon them. so, leave the red scarf and take the trader's diplomat, same shit...

[-] 1 points by tdsisti (80) from Austin, TX 3 years ago

"Rapacious Oligarchy" indeed. I spoke with an old and dear friend of mine who lives and works in the cities of ny and she expressed some frustration with the protest because she felt that her husband was targeted on account of him working on Wall Street. She explained that she and her husband are surely not rich, that they are struggling to live in an 800 sq ft apartment with themselves and their two kids. I explained that this demonstration and others like it are not meant to try and decrease our collective quality of life, but to INCREASE it. What are the elitists (they are NOT elite) afraid of? Could it be that they simply have become too attached to their roles? Is it necessarily a well thought out agenda, or conspiracy? The ineptitude of our government and the greed of the finance industry, which has surely grown to oligarchic proportions, reflect an overwhelming mindlessness. This is NOT sustainable and these protests are so vital BECAUSE everyone needs to be aware of this fact. While the estimable Chris Hedges points out how two thirds of the [U.S.] population are living at subsistence levels, the U.N. Millenium Ecosystem report revealed how TWO THIRDS of the ecosystems that humans need to thrive on ARE DEAD or DYING...Corporations are oblivious to this and they pretend that the very visible and corrupted hand of the market can mete out the needs of society. IT CANNOT. Also, for any reporter who says they are incapable of comprehending the demonstration, do not cater to their need for a limited and narrow sound bite. They are exhibiting their own limitations, as they are primarily beholden to the corporations they serve. If they were real journalists, they would not need concise soundbites, they would be able to devote the necessary time to report and comprehensive story.

[-] 1 points by tdsisti (80) from Austin, TX 3 years ago

"Rapacious Oligarchy" indeed. I spoke with an old and dear friend of mine who lives and works in the cities of ny and she expressed some frustration with the protest because she felt that her husband was targeted on account of him working on Wall Street. She explained that she and her husband are surely not rich, that they are struggling to live in an 800 sq ft apartment with themselves and their two kids. I explained that this demonstration and others like it are not meant to try and decrease our collective quality of life, but to INCREASE it. What are the power elites afraid of? Could it be that they simply have become too attached to their roles? Is it necessarily a well thought out agenda, or conspiracy? The ineptitude of our government and the greed of the finance industry, which has surely grown to oligarchic proportions, reflect an overwhelming mindlessness. This is NOT sustainable and these protests are so vital BECAUSE everyone needs to be aware of this fact. While the estimable Chris Hedges points out how two thirds of the [U.S.] population are living at subsistence levels, the U.N. Millenium Ecosystem report revealed how TWO THIRDS of the ecosystems that humans need to thrive on ARE DEAD or DYING...Corporations are oblivious to this and they pretend that the very visible and corrupted hand of the market can mete out the needs of society. IT CANNOT. Also, for any reporter who says they are incapable of comprehending the demonstration, do not cater to their need for a limited and narrow sound bite. They are exhibiting their own limitations, as they are primarily beholden to the corporations they serve. If they were real journalists, they would not need concise soundbites, they would be able to devote the necessary time to report and comprehensive story. Anyone who pretends to be oblivious to the problems in the world is disingenuous or woefully ignorant and neither of these is estimable in a reporter...not even a bad one.

[-] 1 points by nzmrmn (1) 3 years ago

Well done.

-Solidarity from Richmond, CA

[-] 1 points by anon123 (23) 3 years ago

i just watched these two videos. i also went downtown to put my boots on the ground to support you. this is perplexing. OWS needs to explain how you went from an "innocent" civic cause to a sophisticated propaganda machine overnight. Your credibility is now in question. If i wanted to watch edited bullshit I'd turn a TV on.

[-] 1 points by bulldog831 (62) 3 years ago

Ry Cooder - I Want My Crown: http://youtu.be/c0ni6xnqNfE

[-] 1 points by kaylee (4) 3 years ago

thanks to all for fighting for the teamsters at sothebys,we need to take america back from the corporate greed like sothebys promote. we shoul take our fight to sothebys on the rich and filthy upper east side, we will get lots media coverage there for sure.

[-] 1 points by bulldog831 (62) 3 years ago

Section 9. Right to assemble

[-] 1 points by bulldog831 (62) 3 years ago

The Guy Fawkes mask is the symbol of the 99%. Display it in your hands, on your chest, on your back, some

way! The Guy Fawkes mask is the symbol of the 99%.

[-] 1 points by bulldog831 (62) 3 years ago

Ry Cooder: No Banker Left Behind- http://youtu.be/LxaY_mxYflg

[-] 1 points by bulldog831 (62) 3 years ago

The Guy Fawkes mask is the symbol of the 99%. Display it in your hands, on your chest, on your back, some

way! The Guy Fawkes mask is the symbol of the 99%.

[-] 1 points by mattymatt (88) from New York, NY 3 years ago

Good news - Politicians are taking notice. Bad news - They're trying to suppress the movement like everyone else in a place of authority. Queens Councilman Peter Vallone Jr. said the safety of New Yorkers always comes first.

"You certainly cannot take over a New York City street. That is a serious situation. We have emergency vehicles to get through, people have actually jobs to get to, unlike these protestors, apparently," said Vallone. "And the police have every right to use the force that they deem necessary to arrest if people aren't cooperating."

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/147824/wall-street-protests-continue-as-nypd-remains-mum-on-pepper-spray-use

[-] 1 points by tttroy (10) 3 years ago

I don't remember seeing Peter Vallone Jr. at the march. Obviously another armchair politician quarterbacking from a distance.

[-] 1 points by bulldog831 (62) 3 years ago

99% continue peaceful, lawful protest. Police riots daily. Get video of offending police officer's name plate and badge number. Say the officer's name and badge number for the video.

[-] 1 points by bulldog831 (62) 3 years ago

John Perkins- Economic Hitmen: http://youtu.be/n7Fzm1hEiDQ

[-] 1 points by daniel (0) 3 years ago

nice work. good to see the spirit of the square represented. some other good videos to peep. http://vimeo.com/29511960

[-] 0 points by Gunlin (2) 3 years ago

Some extra inspiration -

http://www.theglobalmovement.info/

[-] 0 points by davidscameracraft (12) 3 years ago

Beautiful video collections. They really portray the feeling and thinking of the people in Liberty Plaza. I know it resonates with millions of people around America and the world. The diverse group of protesters at Liberty Plaza gives everyone a central place to learn, speak up and organize. Instead of people feeling abused by the system by themselves or in small groups we now have a growing united front. I continue to hear people say "they did not know this was going on and would have participated. They also agree something has to change in the corporate plutocracy". As the word spreads there will be millions saying the same thing these videos express so well. Peace to all of the protesters. See you soon.

[-] 0 points by eddie (0) 3 years ago

I totally support this movement, but this video is frustrating in it's total lack of cogency in reform specifics. I have not been down (yet) to wall street so I can't say how thoroughly these protestors are laying their suggestions out, but judging from this video, not very.

With the media attention potential, I would expect more clarity and facts put forth in asking for change, rather than rote statements about how wall street is evil. We 'mostly' all know what it does, but help explain to people -other than one another -exactly why this protest is necessary.

[-] 2 points by neo5apien (44) from Leesville, LA 3 years ago

It's inevitable because there's such a wide spectrum of people out there. People want different things. Perhaps setting in stone demands isn't the best way to enact change, but rather just being there in a very general support of those who don't have the political voice that money buys.

[-] 0 points by davidscameracraft (12) 3 years ago

Repeal the laws that make our Government and financial system a plutocracy. There is not just one reason it has become a corrupt and unjust system ruled by the wealthiest 1%. The 1% continue to amass huge amounts of wealth and natural resources while the 99% are left without food, shelter or health care. The 1% control the politicians, the laws and the media. America is "The peoples country" the citizens country, and we want it back. The citizens and environment of America should not be a commodity for corporations to exploit. That is the umbrella we stand under. Human and social justice. We are the 99%.

[-] 0 points by neo5apien (44) from Leesville, LA 3 years ago

I love capitalism. I love corporations. There's an imbalance of political power though. GE paid no taxes. 1500 millionaires paid no taxes. Loopholes, exemptions, deductions, subsidies, all of it ruins the tax system. Capitalism has wildly pushed humanity forward and greatly bettered society, but when those who are only motivated by profit buy up a disproportionate amount of political power, we end up with a government that only cares for the wealthy and well connected, where dollars are more important than votes. We have to organize things like this so there's a people motive to balance out the profit motive.

[-] 1 points by 722442457 (11) 3 years ago

True capitalism will always end up with a dictatorship, In controlled/regulated capitalism you end up with a cartel In a fair system every corporation/ person pays the same. No deductions no loopholes.

[-] 0 points by neo5apien (44) from Leesville, LA 3 years ago

It's important to check your motives and know what drives you. Don't act out of jealousy, envy, and hatred for the wealthy simply because they're wealthy. Act out of an intense desire to create a fairer society where everyone can work for the betterment of each other and get a just reward for their labor.

[-] 0 points by bigchickenmama (0) from Troxelville, PA 3 years ago

I agree. More understanding. -The rich get poorer and the poor get richer. So we can understand each other.

[-] 0 points by neo5apien (44) from Leesville, LA 3 years ago

Not even that. If the poor get richer, then the rich will get richer as well, because there will be more demand for the products and services corporations provide. A fairer society will be better for EVERYONE, including the top 1%.

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Hi I have 3 ladies that may be able to help. All liaisons will be video taped for security reasons to avoid any misunderstandings.All payments are to be made through Paypal. A signed consent form must be received from either of your parents. Or from a person of integrity, no lawyers or bankers please.

[-] 1 points by JLivermore (-5) from Jersey City, NJ 3 years ago

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Hi Well that would depend on how many you sell.

[-] 1 points by JLivermore (-5) from Jersey City, NJ 3 years ago

I have powerful contacts in many industries.

[-] 0 points by ftheman (18) from Leslie, AR 3 years ago

I see now that you're just another asshole. Go piss up a rope, why don't you? Your smugness is not flattering, as you are very ugly, inside and out. Do you consider yourself immune? You're not part of the "Club," just another deceived minion. Your soul is dead. Isn't it? You can't see. I doubt that you ever will. You sound like a Nazi. You are a Nazi. (We Are Troy Davis!)

[-] 1 points by 722442457 (11) 3 years ago

Chill out man. Just a bit of harmless banter You obviously have some anger issues to deal with.

[-] 1 points by ftheman (18) from Leslie, AR 3 years ago

You're right. Over the top, definitely. I'm chilling and revisiting my anger. I'm very frustrated though. My paragraph was very ugly. I lashed out excessively and did not wait for my question about the ironic mode to be answered. What would Mahatma say? I probably would not want to hear. Thanks for you're response. I appreciate it. PEACE...

[-] 0 points by ftheman (18) from Leslie, AR 3 years ago

Are you writing in the ironic mode, or are you just an asshole? Let me know...