Protect Occupy Baltimore
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 25, 2011, 2:10 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt
UPDATE: CITY DEFERS OCCUPY BALTIMORE PERMIT REQUEST
OCCUPATION CALLS FOR PUBLIC SUPPORT
Occupy Baltimore has been peacefully gathering in McKeldin Square on the corner of Pratt & Light Streets since October 4th, 2011. Today marks the start of the fourth week of the encampment. Early last week, after pressure from the Baltimore City police department and the department of parks and recreation, Occupy Baltimore filed an application for a permit to continue the encampment indefinitely.
On Monday, Occupy Baltimore received word that the Department of Parks & Recreation Department has not approved their permit application, and instead suggested a compromise that would allow Occupy Baltimore to continue to occupy McKeldin Square indefinitely without a permit during the daytime hours, but limit overnight presence to a maximum of 2 people, and restrict the encampment as a whole to a smaller corner of the Square. The city has asked for an answer to the proposed deal by Wednesday Oct 26th and stated that if Occupy Baltimore agrees, they will not be removed from the park for failing to obtain a permit. Should Occupy Baltimore refuse to comply with the requests to limit the overnight presence, then the city "has the right to terminate these special accommodations," though no specific date for termination has been announced. In preparation for any possible intervention by the city, Occupy Baltimore participants are issuing a general call for all allies to join the encampment starting tonight to support and protect the group sustaining the occupation at McKeldin Square.
Over the course of the past three weeks, Occupy Baltimore has begun a directly democratic dialogue, and considering their peaceful and respectful assembly, the group requests that the city allow them to maintain this peaceful democratic space, as city government counterparts have in Philadelphia and Washington DC. Representatives of Occupy Baltimore, assisted by the Maryland chapter of the ACLU, are currently in discussion with the Department of Parks and Recreation about possible negotiations on the proposed deadline and the overnight stay limitations. These limitations present a clear concern for the Occupation, which has a complex and pre-existing infrastructure, including dedicated teams for media, food, direct action, outreach, security, and other working groups that require consultation and consideration, as well as physical space onsite.
Occupy Baltimore is committed to maintaining a vibrant, safe space in McKeldin Square as the movement continues to grow an organic infrastructure of democratic representation, arts, culture, and Political debate while still allowing the public to pass through McKeldin Square, and inviting them to join in the occupation and associated activities.
Occupy Baltimore recognizes that their requests are outside of the box for the city's existing permit system, but encourages the city to work alongside peaceful and respectful demonstrators to create a legal space where all voices can be heard.
The Occupation remains hopeful that the City of Baltimore will continue to work with the movement in the coming days and weeks to ensure the continued existence of this peaceful gathering. Participants state, however, that they are closely monitoring police presence in the area as the city's deadline approaches. They encourage supporters to maximize presence in the Square starting today, and continuing throughout the week, should the authorities decide to clear the area on or after the Wednesday, October 26 deadline.
For more information, or to schedule a time to visit the occupation movement in Baltimore, please visit www.occupybmore.org
I was at 100 Light street the other day and saw the location these people have squatted on. The square looks like a poorly maintained homeless shelter. The whole place looks dirty. The grass is dying in the "campground". I purposely walked around the square so I did not have to be bothered by the people, and the smell. Go Home !!
It is time people stand up for their rights. The cops are out of line and there are smear tactics being launched against Occupy. They are attempting to make people think that it is Occupy that is wrong....But if the Banks, Wall Street & the entire system weren't abusing us all, there would be no need for any of this.
World is with you.
protect your female protestors from being rape
Actually, the first amendment is not absolute. It comes with a time, place and manner restriction to protect everyone involved. For example, you can't scream fire in a crowded theater and say it is your constitutional right to freedom of speech (not that I'm comparing the protestors to that, just using it as an example of how the amendment is restrictive). That being said, I'm a life long resident of Baltimore City. It is a DANGEROUS city, especially at night. While I respect the protestors' right to commune, setting up an encampment in that area at night makes them sitting targets for crime. Additional police are being dispatched, not just to crack down on the protestors, but also to protect them. These are officers that are being taken away from areas that desparately need police presence. Our local government is trying to come up with a compromise. Please listen to them and hold off on the knee jerk reaction.
Stay put baltimore do not relent
We stand with you Baltimore! Stay strong! You have every right to be there, and the city knows this. All around us, local and State elected, and anointed officials are starting to worry. Worry about their paychecks. Worry about their gold-card healthcare. Worry about their free cars and free gas. They have begun the typical paranoia response to a movement such as ours. They begin with police officers who have demonstrated the ability to be aggressive. One on one counseling of what is expected of them, go in and disperse the crowd with whatever measures you need to use (wink). We know many officers stand with us. We thank them profusely for their support. We need all the help we can get. They are being told they will loose their jobs, or be exposed as weak if they don't tow the line. Please be prepared out there. Pray our Government doesn't turn its military force against us. What irony, our own fellow citizens we are trying to help, are shooting at us. We are proving our own power as the 99. We are making them pay attention. HELLO Uncle Sam, Are You Listening? Life Sucks Down Here At The Bottom Of The Food Chain.
Dear Baltimore Police Department:
Please arrest these idiots and if you need to crack a few skulls in the process, so be it.
WHAT A SURPRISE !!! EXCLUSIVE: ACORN Playing Behind Scenes Role in 'Occupy' Movement
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/26/exclusive-acorn-playing-behind-scenes-role-in-occupy-movement/#ixzz1buZGeWe2
Why would you apply for a permit in the first place? We need to understand that most officials if not all in this country are bought and paid for by 1%. Mayer, police and most legislators work for big banks in one way or other. Was it just a coincidence that people in New York got beaten the day after NYPD gets 4 Million Dollars bounces check from their masters? I too more than everyone, would like to believe there is some decency and pride left in our officials but that would be self destruction. Let not mock ourselves and ask for something that we the people already own the permit for. We own the permit to walk on our sidewalks. We own the permit to assemble in our parks. We own the permit to march in our streets, and believe it or not we the people even have the permit to “Citizen Arrest” the corrupt Meyers and police.
Who is 'Mayer'? Do you mean 'mayor'?
No wonder you can't get a job and are looking for handouts LOL!
Morons.
Keep Occupying Baltimore! Be kind, but relentless :)
Please let me start by telling you people that I hate niggers and whites, jews, honkeys, spics, and lazy all's all around. I'm not sure the “occupy's” have a building agenda that will do a full turn around for the “new world”, but they sure as hell are strapping on the BDU's for a purpose. WTF are you doing? They are doing what I like to call a “quiet civil war”. If you are living with an income of under $60 then you will benefit from what ever outcome there is, and no actual sacrifice to your usual shitty life, while sitting on your armchair, while these hippy's are living on concrete and eating bagel(from Duncan Donuts and eating Subway). DAMRIGHT I’ve got something to say about that, and I'll go down there and say it. But, don't you get up and do it, Jesus, there is a football game on. And those that don't at least say “hay, they have a good heart, and are willing to sacrifice for us, (the -$60k) then a big F-U. You know what though, I don't think I'd be into it either, but if there was indeed a “cavil war” fighting for my finances, sheeeet, you'd be the first redneck(me too) there, with my own firearms. Ain't ya'll seen “The Patriot” how about when you watch “Braveheart” and your blood went up? Yeah, that's my people too, cause we faught for something. There was a reason too, and there is now. But, now it's quite and peaceable, your wife and children don't have to die this time.
all you fucking idiots out there "protesting" should just go back to work. people bitching about other people making good money for what? im not a rich son of a bitch and i would love to be but i play with the hand im dealt. plus all i see are people out there protesting and have iphones in their hands nand shit. thats an easy 300 bucks right there that was thrown away and for what? to have what is popular? GO BACK TO FUCKING WORK AND STOP BITCHING!!! wah wah wah
First quit with the extreme language. Second you don't have aclue do you. It's apparent that you are the 1% maskarading as a 99% Maybe if the Republicans would quit giving everything to the Rich we would be back to work. I guess you were for GW Bush giving tax breaks to corportaion to ship jobs over seas. I guess you were for giving tax breaks to the rich sso we wouldn't into a recession and they would creat jobs so we COULD WORK. maybe its time you leave and just be the republican that you are. go suck on carl rove. since you obviously like that.
Not necessarily, I am a server administrator and my wife has been a teacher for 20 years. We are certainly not rich and disagree with the movement. We have always dealt with what came our way, on our own. No matter if it was a bad decision, we dealt with it, not asking for any help. I was raised on a farm. Taught to be self sufficient and not rely on anyone but myself and my family.
The person does have a point. There are a lot of IPads, IPhones, smart phones, etc. All kinds of expenses devices held by the people in these locations. Funny, everyone love Apple, but they are the peak of capitalism. One of, if not the most valuable companies, factories overseas. When all of you start throwing away your "I" devices, then you are really against capitalism.
I agree with James..........go join the TEA PARTY or just the Republican give tax breaks to the wealthy party. Server administartor ok so you really don't have a real job. Be a man and get a in a mill or a factory or Join the Army and go fight so you can come home and get screwed by the Republicans and the Tea Party.
Raised on a farm, joined the Air Force out of high school, etc. I think I have done real work. Thank you very much!!!
Amen to that go Join the Tea Party or something, you play with the hand your dealt, you obviously have a job to go back to have a home and can buy food. Some of us have more to deal with, think of the American Revolution, you wouldn't have your rights if it weren't for those people fed up with the King or being sick of the hand their dealt. People all over are abused by people who you would stand for every day, and if were up to you and or the Republican party there would only be Freedom of Speech except for the 1%(which all of them are anyway), If you want us to stop showing that we actually care about our brothers and sisters than why are you even here, are you even thinking about others around you?; FYI there donating little bits at a time and the thousands of us out there don't give a Damn how long it takes, Capitalism took its tole a decade ago and its time for a change.
Yeah, and you think Marxist, Communism, Socialism, etc is any better. Look at the former Soviet Union, all of the former Communist countries feel, had terrible economies. Many socialist countries in Europe are now failing. Nothing is perfect. The world isn't perfect. As I was always told growing up, life is not fair, get used to it.
Ya they weren't Marxist; go look at the differences, they were a more capitalist breed and everyone worked for the good of the government; in marxism it calls for brief government control to eventually destroy the state/central government and end economic inequalities; the twisted version that communist LENONISM plyed was not marxist at all... Look at the EU they are in some ways more socially free than us.so YEs I would rather have closer to this form or at least a true social-capitalist society, not one that is pure capitalist; look at were that got Mexico. And if you haven't noticed we're failing to and all world economiese being tied into eachother has caused the world market to tank because of our crise, when the biggest economies tank the rest of the world does to.
Sorry, I will take capitalism over anything else. The harder I work, the more money I can make(if that is what I want). I like the idea of negotiating my own salary, not being given what everyone else is given. That takes away from ones incentive to do their best. When my sister-in-law was in college, she had a summer job where her father worked (a manufacturing job). She did her best and out performed the other workers. Then, they all fussed at her for making the job look "to easy and all of them look bad". The shop was union. Glad I live in a right to work state.
If we would get rid of all of a lot of regulations that are being applied to small business, then more jobs would come. Just like I think we need to get rid of the corporate tax. That is nothing more than another tax on consumers. When you tax a company, they are just going to pass that cost onto the consumer. So, if we tax companies at a higher rate, that is just going to increase the cost of what we purchase.
BTW I Will admit my solution was wrong and based on definition as well as perpetration. and yes Capitalism can be a very good thing we just need to find a medium, sorry if anything I said later was wrong misinformed or hurtful. You are right in many ways as well, thats why I actually don't believe in a pure socialist or capitalist economy... to little protection is bad but to much control is also hurtful. I do also know I am likely being unrealistic as of now but I guess it can't be helped on my part. (thanks for giving me something to think about, Econ. class enlightened me a little today). I also agree that companies should not be hurt if they are contributing, but CEOs, I may be wrong(then again I still am not fully matured yet) need to pay more, especially because a majority of those CEOs call for it; If they want a higher tax to take more burden of those who work as hard as they can but don't have a tone of money (Teachers, students that are focused on getting a degree, artists (underground) who are legit and live in the slums). there are still people who get the bad end because they are not gifted with certain skills or they have more skill in specific areas, because they are learning disabled. Believe me because if you want to go to the edge and say one does not work hard because their wages and ethic don't show it, you are wrong about that. Yes as a borderline special ed student with a mathmatics processing deficiency I try my hardest every day; sure my math grade won't tell you that but grades and wages mean nothing. look at all the great test takers who in high school get 4.0+ GPAs and Fail in life, look at all the Corporate CEOs that don't do anything but sit back declaring bankruptcy and taking stocks and workers jobs/wages with their companies (who are they to decide, the Corporate companies in the stock market by rule of thum belong to th stock holders and no longer the CEO{s}). I comes down to corporate greed, and for America's Social Capitalist system is to work we need more of the CEOs who work for everyones good and don't wheel deal and pare debt at the expense of the people the higher or market to. It is time for Liberty and justice for all, for each and everyone of us to have a voice about who runs our Economy... Is it us?...or will it be the CEOs who control the out come, I may not be an adult till later this year but think about these words, become the bull, this means grab it by the horns, empathize, and find a medium, it also means to become the leader; if you lead then those at the top who try and get people down will have nothing left to do but follow. this is the kind of give and take that will promote cooperation, and though I may not be a war not have a collage degree or military training as a 17 yr old waiting on an eagle scout board of review I know a thing or to about leadership and working with people, I just ask as I have redundantly stated perhaps 3 or 4 times, that we find a new medium and act on it to ensure our own safety and security and that of every human being around us, for a better world were everyone can prosper, and tough it is impossible it is a challenge I charge everyone with. to make a better world to love thy neighbor as thyself (and though I am sorry for the use of theology it is apparent that this is what the world needs), for everyone to work yes for self, but than stop and think how will this affect everyone else. It will be then that we can move forward and fix our social and economic problems, and yes it makes me a hypocrit but we need to quite defining ourselves by the worlds standards, and we need to have compassion so that each and everyone of as can find a path of least resistance, It will take harder work than this nation and all of humanity has faced, it will also likely be a drag and seem 100% pointless at times( maybe all times), but If we are still a nation that has redefined life, and the entire world, than we will still bee great enough to keep redefining life and continue to shape the world; do we really all want to die knowing people are suffering, that to some not a single good deed has been done, this also applies to the rich. Once they hear what we have to say if we treat them the same like brothers and sisters maybe they will do the same, and maybe a period of back stabbing socially and politically will end.
Sorry For the essay, I had to much to reflect on...I don't even know if its right, I just know we can't afford the hate in this world; decades of blood shed by all sides, and blood sweat and tears from people in all walks of life has shown us that. Are we the people ready to act? this movement answers at least part of this question, the rest is up to every citizen of the world.
all you fucking idiots out there "protesting" should just go back to work. people bitching about other people making good money for what? im not a rich son of a bitch and i would love to be but i play with the hand im dealt. plus all i see are people out there protesting and have iphones in their hands nand shit. thats an easy 300 bucks right there that was thrown away and for what? to have what is popular? GO BACK TO FUCKING WORK AND STOP BITCHING!!! wah wah wah
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all you fucking idiots out there "protesting" should just go back to work. people bitching about other people making good money for what? im not a rich son of a bitch and i would love to be but i play with the hand im dealt. plus all i see are people out there protesting and have iphones in their hands nand shit. thats an easy 300 bucks right there that was thrown away and for what? to have what is popular? GO BACK TO FUCKING WORK AND STOP BITCHING!!! wah wah wah
Fascist
Whether Free Speach is legal or not, they must, and will, continue expanding this movement. They will because they percieve that their survival is directly threatened. Those who do not percieve that their survival is threatened eventually will, as the conditions of this state continue to decline, it's opposition will become naturally more and more encompassing and inclusive. This is a War; a War not declared by Us but upon Us. It is War as old as History can be reckoned, from when they called themselves Pharoahs and chained us in their fields to when they rounded Us up from the starving streets of London and exiled Us to prison camps across the Seven Seas. Little has changed in 5,000 years. Though now they do not bind us in Iron, we are in chains still. Though they have promised us Liberties, they round Us up still. But still we resist, and slowly, almost imperceptibly, we inch forward. While each generation in succession fights battle after battle only to finally succumb to this evil, their final loss is trivial compared to the damage they accomplished on the way and it's rendered meaningless as soon as it occurs, for there is always a freshly angered generation marching right up behind them, carrying ever forth the banner of the poor just as the tides bring forth the masts of wrecked slave ships. From slaves to serfs, from serfs to subjects, from subjects to citizens, and from citizens to soveriegn beings this age old battle has always raged in one consistent direction. That is why, in the end, we will win.
ABSOLUTELY REFUSE! I lived in Baltimore for 3 years. The Baltimore Police Department sure as hell has bigger things to worry about than peaceful demonstrators. It's a 50/50 chance that someone gets shot elsewhere in the city at the same time they are cracking down on you, it would be horrible PR for them and it would highlight to the world just how distorted the priorities of our governments have become when they are more worried about silencing protestors than protecting citizens.
Sounds like what they could use down there is some drummers! Can we spare a few?
That's the spirit! If your filth and smell aren't annoying enough, make us miserable with your unrelenting NOISE!!!
What a selfish bunch you pervs are!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxk3c_SbWMg
a private landholder needs to step up and allow for their space to be used. also thats a great point how can a state or city permit what is Federally assured
That would be awesome! Hopefully it's someone who owns land in Siberia.
That would be nice, but I think it's more of a statement when there is conflict about rights. It brings more awareness instead of allowing us to brush stuff under the rug, like we've been doing for the past few decades.
Get numbers and do not comply to that offer. This is the peoples property. Restricting it to two people is restricting their rights to assemble. Its also not safe for those 2 people left. In complying, your basically giving up by pandering to the system your fighting. We do not need permits to protest.
You might want to take some grammar courses. You seem to have a lot of spare time.
I realize it's too much to expect you to actually get a job and pay your own way in life.
I have three jobs I work in order to survive. I support this movement.
AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES
THE BILL OF RIGHTS:
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Amendment XIV Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES
THE BILL OF RIGHTS:
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Amendment XIV Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
I see this as a simple issue of civil disobedience. The City is saying that Occupy Bmore is not supposed to be there overnight. However if the law is unjust or unfair, then you disobey it. Stay there overnight. There is safety in numbers. If the police attack you/your tents and arrest people, then film it and post it here and on YouTube. Every unjust act on the part of authorities will only strengthen the resolve of people to stand up and join with OWS. It will further galvanize the movement. The police were violent at Oakland - all of those videos go viral, and people really see how hypocritical our government has become on all levels.
On the other hand, if you back down, and everyone leaves the park at night, then we are only playing by the rules of system that is broken, and we are submitting to an illegitimate authority. The effect of the City's rules inhibits your right to freedom of speech, expression, and peaceable assembly.
Civil disobedience is the active, professed refusal to obey certain laws, demands, and commands of a government, or of an occupying international power. Civil disobedience is commonly, though not always,[1][2] defined as being nonviolent resistance. (Wiki)
So, any law that YOU deem to be unjust or unfair should be ignored by your logic?
Is that how that works?
Prison really is too good for you morons.
I personally dislike having a "ruling class", it doesn't bug me that they fly around in helicopters so they never have to mingle with us on a bus or subway. It doesn't bug me they live in closed and gated communities. No, this does not bug me because it's their lives to live as they please. What does bug me is that they try to enforce upon us their ideology, they think theirs is the only opinion that matters. That we who are too stupid to have clawed and scrapped our way up the financial ladder can't possibly know whats good even for ourselves. For far too long we have let people with catchy slogans and nice suits, sell us the same bullshit that keeps us mired in the status quo. This two party system where people are given only two choices to lead their country is crap. Since when is Democracy a two sided affair? Someone please post and explain to me how it makes sense that only two very old and dated parties could know the pulse of the people. Especially when the very same people who run for office are the children of those who have held office previously. Yes, I am talking about families like the Bushs'. We all know Prescott Bush was charged with treason and that he supported the Nazis, yet his son and grandson was elected to lead the free world... Does this make sense? America and much of the world has been hijacked by a very quiet and secretive "ruling class". Where things are settled and discussed internationally without our knowledge or approval... Is that Democracy? This movement means to me a call to action, political action; direct action, any kind of action its time to DO something about it. America was once a Beacon of Freedom and Hope for the poor and oppressed, now America is a Beacon of the Rich and Powerful.
I must clarify I do not say that Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. are Nazis, I merely imply that the man who had such an impact on both of their lives, that they followed in his every footsteps in politics and secret societies, must have also imparted some of his own beliefs into them as well. The Winners of War write history books and I do not want history to read that this movement died out as quickly as it started if our children are even allowed to learn history under the NWO. I believe that the rich and powerful have always looked for something that defines them from us. They look for some reason beyond luck and circumstance to explain their good fortune. I believe this to be true of most of us. We all look for what defines us and where it used to be our morals and ways of life defining us as people now your job and bank account define you as a person. We together have changed the face of this planet. It was not a singular person who rose from animal hood into the Age of Man, it was together in small communities at first that we rose up from being more than our environment dictated. I see a dark future ahead a future filled with much struggle and austerity. There is hope too in this dark world, hope that we give the world to the next generation better than when we inherited it from ours. I refuse to believe that petty in-fighting, and tribal; and racial hatreds, can hold us back. We are the 99%. We are the writers of our own destinies. We are NOT defined by what we can buy but by what we have to give as human beings. The 1% as people are not bad they live the only life they have ever known in most cases. Others have made themselves and were not given a single thing EVER and that is to be respected. Any and All who stand in the way of change so that corporations can continue to export war and destruction so they can compete for the rebuilding contract are the enemy. We were not given the option of sides in this war, we are the enemy of the rich because the constitution that says we are their equals. The rich are bored with being rich they want power over our lives. Do not let your children fight in wars and die so that rich and the wealthy can live the American dream. This movement is at a crossroads, we can squabble to each other over how long the drummers can drum, or WE can DO something about it. I say go out and confront people over this, I want to see videos of CEO's getting blasted for their ineptitude with OUR money. I want to see Rockefeller sweating his piggy little forehead off under a constant and never ending barrage of outrage at his under handed secretive shaping of society. I will not be lead into the abyss of perpetual debt the 1% would have us believe is the only and best way. America, you have stood up to the greatest powers at the time throughout history. Be it Great Britain under its inbred kings or The Great German war machine. Now it is time America to Stand up to your Greatest threat of all, one that comes from within America. The Oligarchs and elite have worked you to exhaustion and as you fall and die carrying the extra weight of the rich they profit off of you with their "Dead Peasant" insurance claims. Even in Death the ruling elite get the last laugh
From that gibberish, it's clear that you ARE too stupid to know what's good for you.
Enjoy your stay in jail (at the further expense of the taxpayers)1
I dropped off two "Monopoly" sets to O.B. at lunch today. The objective in the rules were changed to see that NO players are bankrupted! I trust that occupiers will be playing tonight and tomorrow in McKeldin Square (being treated by the BPD as were occupiers in Albany). If so, I'll do the same in DC later this week.
THANKS FOR ALL THE SUPPORT GUYS! Continue to follow @OccupyBaltimore on Twitter if you're not already
-Glenn from Occupy Baltimore Media
We, the People of Love, Compassion & Kindness, hope the Occupy Wall Street & Everywhere folks can calmly recognize that Individual and Corporate Greed is a mental and emotional illness. We hope they can have compassion for the sickness.
Each week, we can meditate and pray for the opening of the heart and healing of the mind of the greedy. We can then guide the young and older to be generous, love and care for themselves, each other and the Earth.
With meditation, prayer, gentle conversation and guidance, we can try to uplift and help heal inner suffering and restore inner happiness, so all may be able to enjoy this world that has so many beautiful gifts.
We can sing The Song of Giving with those who love to share their Hearts with all... Having mastered the art of creating phenomenal amounts of profits, the wealthy can learn how to make money reach where it is needed the most…
We need creative, sustainable commonwealth… for all and the Earth… sustainable communities and common wealth ... We are creating a Bank for Humanity & the Earth. Please see more… http://7keystolove.blogspot.com/2011/10/compassion-for-greedy.html
Stay strong, be loving, be super-creative... transform the fear and suffering into wisdom, love and creativity... be well, do good and have fun... TRANSFORM THE WORLD... honor the Earth and each other...
Does anyone know the ethnic participation stats on the OWS movement in America? Many of the more marginalized groups may be left out unless they are encouraged to participate. Some people who are not necessarily included in "Mainstream" society as whole may feel alienated by the movement, whereas their participation may be integral to the movement. For example: People of color from all areas and groups like emigrant populations, Native Americans, Disadvantaged youth, Single mothers, veterans, etc...... Some members of these groups have been perpetually marginalized even before OWS came along.
What is being done to reach out and educate these groups on their potential roles and interests in the movement?
One of your members at OccuPerv NY was screaming that all Jews should be deported.
Nice.
I urge anyone at liberty square in NYC to come help defend Occupy Baltimore. You will be greeted with open arms. Plus the food and coffee there kicks ass.
No where in the constitution does it say that we are not allowed to assemble at night. As long as we are not harming people. As long as we keep the place clean. As long as we abide with common sense safety regulations then we should be allowed to stay. Freedom of assembly is not just for day time. If people are working overnight shifts then by all means they should be allowed to protest overnight.
Exactly, what the hell is the point of protesting if we have to adhere to some ridiculous curfew?
Why is the first amendment in the Constitution anyway?
Disregard all permit regulations, disregard all orders to vacate, disregard everything that goes against our constitutional rights, disregard everything except preservation of peace and democracy while furthering the cause of the occupation! Good Job OWS! In solidarity from Beijing!
We have every right to serve them with permit requirements in response to their attempts at controlling us. It seems that city officials are dreaming of a world where they are still in control..... We are taking the power back!
agreed
ultimately these problems legally are best resolved by organizing legal issues together and working in an organized fashion between occupies. So it is incredibly important that we begin working on this together on the wiki.
http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/Main_Page
http://www.followthemoney.org/?gclid=CMbY87bB-qsCFUPt7Qod9HE8mQ
http://maplight.org/us-congress/guide/data/money?9gtype=search&9gkw=list%20of%20campaign%20donations&9gad=6213192521.1&9gag=1786513361&gclid=CP61oYbB-qsCFQFZ7AodcTF0jw
http://www.opensecrets.org/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/non-violence-evolution-by-paradigm-shift/
I drove by Occupy Baltimore on Friday morning around 6am and everyone was asleep while thousands of hard working Baltimore citizens were on their way to work knowing they will be paying your taxes and healthcare bills from not having a job, relying on the government for everything and smoking too much pot. How about you lazy liberals get a fucking job.
At the heart of these protests are the basic facts that the people who run they economy ran it into the ground. Not only did they do that they gave each other fat bonuses while they did. You are a symptom of the problem. Go get a job you say what job? they sent them all over sea's or have you detached yourself from society these last 15 or so years?
It's how they were raised. They've been taught that they're owed a living. That they can spend as much as they like on obtaining a degree in underwater basketweaving and someone else will pay for it. Now they're crying and whining because we've cut them off. Enough welfare for the lazy!
Personally, I was raised not to accept money unless I worked for it. One thing that struck me was I heard one of the demands is "a living wage whether employed or not employed" Well, if someone can get a "living wage" while not employed, then where is the incentive to go get a job?
I am part of Occupy Baltimore. I have a job. I am a college professor with a terminal degree and a decent salary and health benefits. Not everyone who is part of the movement is there because they have fallen on desperate times. Some of us are doing just fine, but see that too many of our fellow citizens are not doing just fine and we actually care what happens beyond our own doors. Corporations have co-opted our democracy and all you can do is point a finger at the people who are trying to do something about it and utter a pathetic and ill-informed cliche like "Get a job" at them?
While the bloodsucking people in corporations and in the government continue their bloodsucking of the citizens, many have given up the comforts of their homes and having food to sleep in the streets and are working to protest the corruption that has gone on for too long and are working hard to CHANGE this CORRUPT system that it present throughout the world.... while you're sitting on your ass and accusing all protesters of being lazy liberals without jobs.
emm, thats the idea, many of them have NO JOBS, and are looking for them....one of the things they are claming is job... USA has 20% of unemployment in people under 30.
Yep, and they have student loan debt up the ass, because they were told (like I was) that if you go to college, then you will have a great career with a great paying job when you're done. A lot of those people who say that then accuse those who don't have jobs of being lazy, of it being their fault for not having jobs, and they say that no one owes them a job. Assholes.
Maybe they should have worked and paid their way through college. I worked two jobs. Plus, a lot of these people when to ivy league schools. Why not do 2 years at a community college, then transfer to a 4 year school? Great cost savings there. That is what I am making my kids do. Live at home and go to the local CC for the first 2 years.
You elected a man who has never held a job so what did you expect? We spent $1T and he had a great laugh when it didn't create any jobs. He played you for the sap you are.
Id like to say that the permit offered to OccupyBaltimore is sensible,but to limit the occupation to maximum 2 people is totally absurbed. Limiting the overnight occupation to 2 people not only puts them in danger,but also slows down the occupation process,hence the movement may desolve itself. This the city leaders know.
The people in McKeldin Sq. should continue to occupation. More will be aboard.
I don't know what the permit says specifically, but how can a city, regardless of its permits, deny its citizens the Constitutional right to peaceably assemble and protest?? Laws of a lesser government cannot go above federal law or the Constitution, as I understand it.
Rape and theft are peaceful? Where do you think you are? The Middle East?
Occupying only during the day time and restricting overnight occupation to just 2 people would amount to killing the movement. This is being done on purpose to frustrate and drive people back into isolation. There is no way in the constitution where it says free assembly is limited by time of day or by length of time....What do these city law givers not understand about that?????
EXACTLY!!!!!
the first amendment doesn't come with a nighttime curfew addendum. stay strong, do not give in, and know that a lot of people from all over will support you.
Was gonna say basically the same thing. Solidarity with Baltimore!
Good thing our constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, otherwise all Americans might be outraged about these assaults on our constitutional rights.
Police in riot gear smashed through Occupy Oakland last night, and we've seen what's happened in Chicago and Denver.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Anyone not ready to defend ALL citizens constitutional rights, are choosing to give up their own.
In some cases though, like the location in NY, Zuccotti Park. They are occupying private property. In those cases, the rightful owners have the right to have people removed, by force, if necessary. The city property, while I disagree with the movement, I do agree they have the right to assemble as long as they are peaceful about it.
It's a park that is required to be opened to the public 24/7, and it sits on private property. That makes it a PUBLIC park..... NOT a private one.
The property is PRIVATELY OWNED. Therefore, if the owner wants the people removed, then they have a right to have them removed.
Zuccatti Park is a privately owned public park, required to be opened to the public 24 hours a day.
OWS has maintained a peaceful stance since it's beginning. They are exercising their constitutional rights to peacefully assemble, on grounds that are required to be open to the public.
Per the NY Times:
"Even those privately owned public spaces that do not have curfews may still impose “reasonable” rules regarding behavior, however.
Brookfield Office Properties, the owner of Zuccotti Park, recently posted new rules against camping, lying on the ground or benches, and using sleeping bags, but up until now those rules have not been enforced.
Enforcement would fall to the building’s management company, Professor Kayden said, but if park users refuse to comply, the management may call on the Police Department for help, as it has in an effort to clean out the park."
So, they are breaking the rules and can be evicted if the owner decides to do that.
The rules state no camping and no tents. You perverts are nothing but a bunch of attention seeking freaks.
Right on, brother! (or sister)!
I agree. It's becoming an epidemic throughout this country for the police to act like asses. It's like they're saying, "The NYPD does it, so we will, too."
The police are just being used as tools. Don't blame them.
I do not condone the actions the rogue cops who shouldn't be wearing a badge however. Don't get me wrong.
Most of the police are with us: http://www.occupypolice.org/
Yes, but the ones who are doing this ARE responsible. They should be standing up as a group and refusing to oppress people. If they did it as a group, the police departments wouldn't be able to fire all of them. If you look at history and big movements from the past, the police did the same kinds of things. This isn't something new.
Don't make the mistake of dismissing all police as acting like assholes. A good number are supporters and would be in the park with us if it didn't mean losing their jobs. During a non-violent communications workshop I attended there was a very interested cop lurking close enough to listen in, calm, peaceful, non aggressive. One of the group approached him after and had a conversation. It's dangerous to make such generalizing statements about the police, or any group.
I never said all are like that, did I? I'm talking specifically about the ones who've been treating people badly at the protests. I didn't think that was too hard to figure out. My response was to someone who had specifically talked about what they've been doing at the protests. It's an epidemic, because it's happening in many cities around the country at their protests.
I agree their not all like that but those who are don't deserve their rights and are making the same mistake that the National Guard did at Kent State... Except not with bullets and killing, those who stand for Fascism are Fascist's and that is that, we can't let the title Cop keep the right to self preservation at bay.
The biggest thing is the limiting the occupation to two people overnight would seriously jeopardize their safety. Everyone needs to let the Department of Parks and Recreation know that their position is dangerous for the people protesting.