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Forum Post: Occupy removes Congress from power

Posted 6 years ago on March 17, 2013, 12:23 p.m. EST by mjbento (74)
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You won't be able to Occupy Wall Street until you Occupy Congress.

To Occupy Congress don't count on a sabotaged election process through lobbies. Only through weapons, which the second amendment allows you to care for self-defense purpose, you will be able to get the Congress.

You will need to occupy Congress, House of Representatives, Senate, Police stations, media channels, GOP headquarters before real people's change starts happening.

Then, think on Wall Street.



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[-] 4 points by windyacres (1197) 6 years ago

You are wrong about using second amendment weapons for action. Let's use the weapons of the first amendment instead.

The Revolution is LOVE!

[-] -1 points by mjbento (74) 6 years ago

Revolution is love for mankind and reason.

The weapons are not end per si, they are an additional instrument in making sure civic liberties and dignity ARE upheld.

[-] 1 points by Narley (272) 6 years ago

That’s crazy talk. If you start talking about armed insurrection or a strong arm takeover of the government you’re basically talking like a terrorist. No one will support you. Come on, you’re smarter than that. You will be seen as a domestic terrorist by everyone.

There have been several posts lately suggesting some level of violence may be needed. I totally reject that idea. I reject the back blocks breaking windows. I reject the guys wanting to blow up the bridge last year. And I certainly reject the idea try to intimidate the government by saber rattling will accomplish anything.

I am a defiant gun owner. I don’t want any additional gun restrictions. But I’ll never take up arms against other Americans over a political or social ideology. Gun are for self defense, hunting and sport ONLY!

[-] 0 points by HCabret (-327) 6 years ago

Congress and representative democracy should be abolished.

Violence is never justified and always wrong and you are a coward if you think otherwise.

[-] 0 points by mjbento (74) 6 years ago

Violence is wrong but what about the right of civilians in Syria to protect against a mass-murderer??? IS this violence? Or self-defense?

If they kill those soldiers sent to kill their children, their wifes, daughters, sons, nephews, fathers, mothers uncles and brothers are they becoming violent? Is this "unjustified violence"?

I don't say use to weapons to kill people. I even say don't use them to kill people. Use them to save people and change rules for the benefit of the people. Now, if and only if they shoot with real amunition at you I think you have all right to shoot back and defend.

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 6 years ago

Violence is ALWAYS wrong. No matter who does it or when they do it.

When the civilians of Syria decide to shoot back, they become part of the problem and just as bad as the government.

[-] 1 points by mjbento (74) 6 years ago

Oh so according to you they shoud wait happily to have their bodies full of lead?

[-] 2 points by HCabret (-327) 6 years ago

Did I say that? or did you?

Non-violence is far, far, far superior to violence.

Why do violent people see the only alternative to murder as 'inaction'?

Why must resistance against evil involve behaving evil yourself? Why must i lower myself to the violent's level to be active in my resistance?

You can fight without violence.

[-] 1 points by mjbento (74) 6 years ago

You have not replied with a yes or no. In fact you're AVOIDING the question itself. Let me tell you this:

When you are being ambiguous not saying yes or no, this means consent. You are saying yes no matter how dissimulated you are being. It still reamains crystal clear

You're consenting that civilians and respective families that are shot at don't have the right to defend themselves against entities threatening their lives,

That's sickening for the very least. You may try to play devil's lawyer, it won't do the trick and will just make you head in the sand deeper than ostriches.

After reading this, this was my final comment. You have expressed your views well enough in previous post so don't even bother replying, I trash on people who are devil's lawyers. Sell your poison to Bashar.

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 6 years ago

The question is yes. I would rather have my body filled with lead than to lower myself to the level of a violent person.

I cant speak for anyone else but myself. I would like to think that others would accept the destruction of thier physical bodies knowing that their nous will live forever.

Violence doesnt all of a sudden become morally right just because some fucking moron with a gun decides to shoot. People should lower themselves to the level of the fucking moron with the gun just to fight the fucking moron with the gun.

Violence is disgusting and extremely ineffective and a trully moral person would never resort to violence.

[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 6 years ago

Say that when someone is kicking in your door.

[-] 0 points by mjbento (74) 6 years ago

Revolution is not just about street protests, it also involves action.

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 6 years ago

Action does NOT equal violence.

[-] 0 points by mjbento (74) 6 years ago

Are you afraid of taking up arms against a government who opresses your economic way of life, condemnig you to unemployment and blaming the wrongdoings on "the economy"?

Cause it does sound. A revolution doesn't have to be violent but don't expect mere street protest to change status quo.

And let me tell you: the government and congress IS counting that you stay inoffensive as soft as honey, no reason they need to listen to you.

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 6 years ago

Are you afraid of non-violence? are you afraid of freedom?

It takes more balls and/or whatever GirlFriday has, to say No than it does to say yes.

Violent people are cowards.

[-] 1 points by vaprosvyeh (-400) 6 years ago

They might well be, but they'll live longer than you will.

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 6 years ago

The Non-Violent never die. Only the minds of the cowards and the violent wither.

The Nous of a trully non-violent being never dies.

[-] -2 points by highlander4 (-84) 6 years ago

And only through weapons will you be able to protect yourself from quacks such as these. You know what? Go for it. Give it a shot. It will finally put an end to this entitlement madness.