Forum Post: Your list of demands is wrong and dangerous
Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 3, 2011, 5:32 p.m. EST by Danger1050
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http://www.infowars.com/occupy-wall-street-tax-proposal-is-backed-by-wall-street-itself/
You can't win the war by using their rules and ideas.
Be safe stay peaceful, don't give them any excuses
infowars.com,. is a paranoid right wing religious BUSINESS!
They push increasingly wacky scaremongering "news" while providing little useful alternatives.
firearms are so much off the point of what can be or needs to be accomplished right now...i think what's most important is to take down some of the blockades against democratic agency which have been put up. we don't know how much exactly we can do with OWS. it's like, you meet a genie and get one wish: wish for more wishes. We need to stringently restrict corporate campaign spending and end corporate personhood more than almost anything else since these two problems are most blatantly fascistic. or we can demand that the rich literally pour out money before charging the middle class one more penny. the buffett tax is insidious, but on the DL about it, .
If we get rid of corporate campaign spending, then we need to get rid of union campaign spending as well.
agreed
High five for compromise.
WOOO!! happy dance democracy works!
DO NOT permitted the Democratic Party Establishment to co-opt this movement
agreed
Hello!!!! You did know that this movement and the Democratic party are one in the same. This is a just an Obama reelection event. You did know that the protest has already endorsed Obama for President and has included his "jobs bill" in its demands.
Hello!!!! ...kestrel! No they haven't... everybody knows Obama works for wall street ... Why do you work for these banker jerks they don't care about you ?Join the people ... They don't care if you are republican or democrat that's how they divide us. The politicians all work for the same people just like the major media. The politicians are just debt slave managers. U.S. Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., showed up at rally in Atlanta, hoping to lend a word of his support, but the crowd voted against hearing him speak.
You should really read up on Brookfield Asset managment who owns Ziocotti park, who just received a federal bailout, is represented by Biden's son and has Bloomberg's girlfriend on the board.
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20110928/OPINION01/709289961&template=mobileart
They needed a place to protest so the administration arranged one. LOL
The protest occurs on land which 7 days later the administration give the owner $170 million... coincidence?
Oh well ... I guess this will be what the CIA calls BLOW back cause the politic careers of Obama, Biden, McCain and the rest are about to be over.
I think they are betting that when all is said and done, Obama will be able to blame the Republicans for your issues and the protestors will faithfully march down to the polls and pull the "D" lever.
I hope not my issues are with both parties for years of corruption Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, bush2 and Obama
No certain individuals have said that. News organizations just chose to show that as what we are all about
U.S. Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., showed up at rally in Atlanta, hoping to lend a word of his support, but the crowd voted against hearing him speak.
OWS is all about Being The Change You Wish To See In The World.
As soon as you start to use old paradigm words and concepts such as "leader", spokesman", "left", "right" "demands" and so on and so on, you betray the very Ethos of OWS and the embryonic movement is lost. The "mainstream media will see to that..
The old paradigm has totally failed. It does not work, never has worked, and can only bring misery and inequality, and eventually enslavement.
Trying to incorporate all or part of the old paradigm will not bring the changes we wish for.
The people on the ground at OWS are Living That Change, and doing so beautifully and perfectly in the spirit of the movement on the ground.
Please stop being an airmchair actyivist and demanding that OWS should conform to your ideals in accordance with your own needs.
Please Can We Simply Be The Change We Wish To See In The World, which requires no thought or effort - It Is Our Natural State of Being.
ps. Alex Jones, although maybe meaning well, is propagating fear, anxiety and doubt, which is destructive and contrary everything OWS stands for.
This is true.
Stop putting extremists on the cover of your website, get rid of your "Call to action" and specific demands statements.
99% will support an "End political corruption" statement.
Tax assets not income.
Your absurd demands serve only to highlight the extent of your utter ignorance of economics.
The following table of marginal tax rates is designed to discourage vast income disparity. x is the natianal average income.
income marginal rate 0 - x 0% x - 10x 20% 10x - 100x 40% 100x - 1000x 60% over 1000x 80%
Income from dividends are taxed equal to income from work.
The following table of marginal tax rates is designed to discourage vast income disparity. x is the natianal average income.
income marginal rate 0 - x 0% x - 10x 20% 10x - 100x 40% 100x - 1000x 60% over 1000x 80%
Income from devidends are taxed equal to income from work.
A tax on assets would be better Assets are more concentrated than income
This is a good start, but you need to go the head your screaming at the monsters feet. wall street starts at K street .
The Communist Corporatist System is ran by the family's that have worked in the bureaus that we can't elect. these are the same family's that have worked there from the beginning and if you think that they don't have family in the DOD your wrong.
We are now on Kst as well
A cycle of mass demonstrations featuring spontaneous singing eventually collected 300,000 Estonians, in the end they regained independence without any bloodshed from tyrannical government.
Let us follow the nonviolent resistance uniting in love and sing together in harmony. There is power in a peaceful collective of sound; love can conquer all that oppress- even melting the hardened spirits of those who 'control'.
If all the people who are occupying cities across the US & World synchronized a time to sing a peaceful song, such as Imagine by John Lennon or One Love by Bob Marley for example, while focusing on peace, love and truth, we could perhaps once and for all know peace.
Who will join me? In love, light, gratitude and peace, Dawn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singing_Revolution
I vote for The Staple Singers - If You're Ready (Come Go With Me) !
Greetings from Occupy Miami! This is our soundtrack! Use if you Love! <3
Revolutionary Love, by Sekajipo Genes http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_5821837
I agree with this. The "Buffett tax" is not much of a progressive demand. The rich pay the same as the middle class? Uhh, that's not progressive taxation. That's a flat tax.
That is what they want. They want the middle tax to pay their created debt. I don't owe that money. A flat tax would destroy what remains of the middle class and we will really be a fascist communist state with the Elite on top and us as the slaves. Look around people and make sure the movement is not being manipulated by the International Bankers at the Fed's. Be careful.
Good point. Personally, I won't support anything that comes out of Wall Street.
Demand fourteen: Ban all firearms in America except for loyalty proven police and military. Create a 30 day turn in amnesty period, else face life in prison. Confiscate all gunsmithing, manufacturing, reloading, and shooting equipment. Jail firearms manufactures pending trial at the UN for genocide on minorities. Destroy all collections, clubs, social groups, and museum firearms, even if "de-milled". Put any owner of an assault weapon in re-education camps. We cannot get the capitalists and Christians to do our will until we disarm them. Our weapons are truth and the people, their weapons are guns and racism.
This has nothing to do with this movement, plus the 2nd Amendment protects all the other Amendments form a tyrannical government.
The U.S. government is not at this point in time a tyrannical government, but IF that time comes (and I say that with a BIG IF) you will be glad you have the freedom to own a firearm.
http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/
IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776 The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/index.php/The_tree_of_liberty...%28Quotation%29
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure