Forum Post: You can Shut-up about how violent society is today as compared to the past - we are at a 50 year low in the number of homicides.
Posted 2 years ago on Feb. 2, 2013, 3:26 p.m. EST by DKAtoday
from Coon Rapids, MN
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One thing to make note of however - the major spikes - one starts just after 1910 and runs to 1933 ( rate at 9.7 ) then it steadily drops till about 1958 ( rate at 4.5 ) start of another major spike that ends around 1990 rate at 10.0 ) and drops - the chart below ends at 2000 when the rate was 6.5 per 100,000 and now 2011 report says a continued drop to 4.8 per 100,000
The 1st major spike starts just before WWI ( 1914 ) and continues thru the Great Depression ( til 1933 ) the Dust Bowl and Prohibition ( ending 1939 )
The 2nd major spike starts just after the USA into the Vietnam War ( 1955 - 1974 ) increasing from a low of 4.5 in 1955 thru the start of the Drug War ( 1971 - ongoing ) reaching peak rate 10.7 in 1980 dropping to 8.4 in 1985 ( Gulf war 1990 - 1991) climbing again to 10.5 in 1991 at top of spike. 2nd spike drops off after 1993
Invasion of Afghanistan ( 2001 - ongoing) Invasion of Iraq ( 2003 - still involved ) Homicide rate for 2001 reported at 5.6 dropping to 4.7 or 4.8 in 2011
So there appears to be a statistical anomaly from 1993 to present date. Available information for 2000 - 2012 seems quite lacking. Prior history shows that we should still be in a major high homicide rate - but that is not what is being reported.
So what happened ( did not happen ) between 2000 and now that would account for this bewildering fact? I mean we got 2 wars ( and other actions undeclared ) we are still in the midst of a major economic meltdown 2008 - present day.
So - Where the hell is the corresponding violence? Where are all of the homicides. We see them reported on the Spews ( I mean news ) but the actual(?) data does not seem to be available.
Current reported rate seems very unlikely at a 4.7 or 4.8 per 100,000 for 2011.
Check out the homicide chart attached then look at the population figures. Population today is over twice the size of 1920 population. Looking at the chart and comparing population size - we are roughly in the same area as homicides go.
USA Homicide Rates polyticks.com/polyticks/beararms/liars/usa.htm Homicide Rates USA, 1900 - 1998 ... southern attempts at gun control in the 1870-1910 period, the northeastern attempts in the 1920-1939 period, the attempts ...
Be sure to note the really bad years and check your history books for what was going on.
Year = size of population
1920 = 106,022,000
1950 = 151,325,000
2010 = 281,422,000
Great Depression years = 1929–1939
Dust Bowl years = 1932-1935
Prohibition years = 1920-1933
REPORTED Homicide rate per hundred thousand :
4.8 in 2011
6.8 in 1920
8.8 in 1930
6.3 in 1940
6.4 in 1939