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Forum Post: you are not "endowed by your Creator with certain inalienable rights" you are "dependant upon privileges which the goverment may or may not decide to grant you."

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 24, 2011, 11:01 a.m. EST by bill1102inf2 (357)
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you are not "endowed by your Creator with certain inalienable rights" you are "dependant upon privileges which the goverment may or may not decide to grant you." this is Amerika 2.0



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[-] 3 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 12 years ago

We must assert our "inailienable rights." Our founding fathers stood against tyranny to realize liberty and so must we. . .

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!"

Whole speech http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/henry.htm

[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 12 years ago

That's why OWS is here, the government has overstepped its bounds.

A government that doesn't respect our inalienable rights is illegitimate.

[-] 1 points by kickthemout (83) 12 years ago

This is a Republic and we don't need and don't want privileges. We want natural right and if those representatives of ours in government think that we're not entitled to these rights and only should have privileges at their pleasure, then it's time to remove all of them.

In fact, this is the time to go to Washington, D.C., the seat of all our evil, and give those 535 skunks in the U.S. Congress,Republicans and Democrats, 48 hours to get out. Then we can establish a just society. Unless we kick them all out there will never be any substantial change.

[-] 1 points by supermut (2) 12 years ago

In the beginning of ows, it was only for the us people- It's evolved into a global movements. where all the world people are assisting us in our fight against this oppressive government.

This is the document that we now follow- signed by all the worlds governments- and all the world demands that the us government stop, abusing & assaulting its people.--------------------------------------------- universal declaration of human rights (UN)

On December 10, 1948 the General Assembly of the United Nations adopted and proclaimed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights the full text of which appears in the following pages. Following this historic act the Assembly called upon all Member countries to publicize the text of the Declaration and "to cause it to be disseminated, displayed, read and expounded principally in schools and other educational institutions, without distinction based on the political status of countries or territories."

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Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,

Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,

Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,

Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations,

Whereas the peoples of the United Nations have in the Charter reaffirmed their faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,

Whereas Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United Nations, the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms,

Whereas a common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance for the full realization of this pledge,

Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.

[-] 0 points by betuadollar (-313) 12 years ago

You've misinterpreted "endowed"; also "Creator," but that's not something I'm willing to elaborate on.

So... go back to the books, kid.

[-] 0 points by jonithanj (0) 12 years ago

And if you are one of the 1% who bribes this government, you have all the human rights you could imagine- Government is expensive. if you are of the 99% you better shut your mouth if you know whats good for you.

[-] 0 points by ChemLady (576) 12 years ago

Personally I don't believe in a creator any way. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are going to fall under interpretation when you have such a large group of people.

OWS had it's own mini version of this with its early conflict with the drum circle people. The resolution of some of the blocks to ideas left some people unhappy and feeling ignored or even oppressed by the group. Those things are going to become more common as numbers grow. Face it no large group of people is going to tolerate a perfect anarchy, it never has.

[-] 2 points by bill1102inf2 (357) 12 years ago

the fact remains that we are suppose to have certain inalienable rights, and they are being taken away via our government, this must stop and be reversed

[-] 1 points by ChemLady (576) 12 years ago

I agree. Those rights are being lost through actions done by congress, we have to get better people in there, and show them we will vote them out if they don't protect our rights.

[-] 1 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

Well did you just spontaneously erupt from dust or did your mommy and daddy create you?

[-] 1 points by ChemLady (576) 12 years ago

I haven't given solipsism much thought, but who knows. By creator I meant some intelligent being that initiated the universe.

[-] 1 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

gotcha ;-)

[-] -2 points by America921 (161) 12 years ago

People on the cite keep talking about how their basic rights are being violated (ie Liberty and Life). So if anyone could be so kind as to give an specific example of how one of these two basic rights are being violated that would be awesome. Also The Pursuit of Happiness is a dumb right because it's way too subjective, for example happiness may be me killing ten million people while for another it's being a garbage man.

That's just my thought if anyone would like to respond I would love to debate you.

God Bless America

[-] 1 points by DYLANDIRT (44) 12 years ago

If you don't get it. it's not worth debating. I can't farm the land without a title, nor can I use the water without permission. I can't collect wood to trade or use. I can't even stand or sleep without some sort of permission. One is tied into the system by having to find a work with in the system.to survive. One is thus dependent on the system for work and when the system doesn't provide jobs, there is little recourse for a self sustainable life. We could cite Bill Gates as an example to show how it is possible, but neither one of us is

[-] 0 points by America921 (161) 12 years ago

What in God's name are you talking about..... this isn't 1776 you cant go into the forest and chop down a tree for wood because that forest is private property..... and the system your talking about is society which is made up of you and me, and your last sentence is incoherent.

[-] 1 points by DYLANDIRT (44) 12 years ago

Society is made up of you, not me. The forest is private property only because of your government. It was land that God put here and man hoards. Great rebuttal by the way. Not. Don't get so excited and explain why the forest has been taken from those who use it.

[-] 0 points by America921 (161) 12 years ago

A bit childish. Two things are you saying you live outside of society? If so then none of this that is on this website pertains to you, and I suggest you go on living your life without the benefits or detriments of society. Second we all have rights to property which is why we have deeds and titles so those rights are protected. Finally, "The forest is private property only because of your government. It was land that God put here and man hoards" this is once again Incoherent and a complete misuse of Grammar. So I find myself asking the question who educated you (if anyone) because they should be immediately sacked.

Look forward to hearing from you!

God Bless America.

[-] 1 points by DYLANDIRT (44) 12 years ago

If you don't get it, you never will, so why try? You're lost in your world, holding on to a very narrow box that no longer works.