Welcome login | signup
Language en es fr
OccupyForum

Forum Post: XL Presents! Tar Sands Timmy!!!

Posted 1 year ago on Aug. 29, 2013, 5:30 p.m. EST by shoozTroll (17632)
This content is user submitted and not an official statement

Don't worry folks, they will walk 5,000 miles, or more to bring you all the bitumin you want. ( or at least as long as they are making a killing).

http://veracitystew.com/2013/08/20/tar-sands-clones-keystone-xl-isnt-the-only-game-in-town-video/

Why?

Why, because they along with ExxonMobil, they hate your children.

http://exxonhatesyourchildren.com/

77 Comments

77 Comments


Read the Rules
[-] 2 points by zzx375 (3) 7 months ago

Why do we still have a gasoline-only automotive fuel monopoly!? Why!?

[-] 3 points by JGriff99mph (507) 7 months ago

Because we won't, as a society, demand anything different.

The amount of bailout money our government has given the banks since 2008 is enough to put solar units at a value of $35k ea on every household in the country.

Now obviously this isnt practical everywhere, but the point remains.

And talk about stimulus. Zero out everyone's electric bills, and if they get electric cars, zero out their monthly gas bills. Electric scooters can go forever on a charge, its incredible.

But when you mention something about bailing out banks, and people think you are only referring to the 08 collapse- and dont want to think about pain to fix it, wanted to keep the present good and fuck the future- and they dont even realize its going on....

Well....

[-] 1 points by zzx375 (3) 7 months ago

What if people did ask for a hybrid automotive technology with an engine capable of running on multiple fuels as well as an electric motor (put solar panels on the top surfaces of the vehicle)?

Solar units on every house sounds good but in the parts of the country that see little sun throughout the year (Cascadia?) does that make sense. To repeat part of another post, how many administrations up to the present, have come and gone since the 1973 Arab Oil Embargo and we still have single-fuel automobiles that require a strategic commodity.

When we stop thinking in terms of miles per gallon and start thinking in terms of dollars per mile, the change will happen.

[-] 1 points by JGriff99mph (507) 7 months ago

"When we stop thinking in terms of miles per gallon and start thinking in terms of dollars per mile, the change will happen."

Thats a very effective line. Are there any central information sources or a chart that would show the differences?

[Removed]

[Removed]

[-] 0 points by zzx375 (3) 7 months ago

Yes, propane has been used sporadically as an automotive. But you still have the same problem if EVERYONE with an automobile converted it to propane. You would still have the single-fuel monopoly everything that goes with that. Further that doesn't move the automotive world in the U.S. to a zero-emission situation. Propane burns so clean that is used in fork lifts inside warehouse and where food processing occurs so that is a plus but other than that it doesn't solve the current problem.

The Kochs!? Oh yes evil and wicked and blah, blah. They have money so put them in the same bucket as Buffet, Gates, Soros, Mexico's Slim, the entire lot. However none of these millionaires have any more control over the oil produced by those countries who hate our way of life or merely tolerate it. What would happen to the OPEC countries if we ceased to buy their #1 strategic commodity?

How many administrations have occupied the WH since that phenomenon known as the Arab Oil Embargo of 1973? Right up to the current one an nothing has been done on this particular front.

Seriously!? Do you not realize how many administrations right to the current WH occupier and no progress on the single most tangible item

[Removed]

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 8675309 points by DKAtoday (8675309) from Coon Rapids, MN

Brilliant - TWEET

DKAtoday ‏@DKAtoday

Tar Sands Clones: Keystone XL Isn’t the Only Game in Town (VIDEO) http://bit.ly/1592FYh

totally <3 warming - ant-acid anyone?

[Removed]

[Removed]

[Removed]

[Removed]

[Removed]

[Removed]

[Removed]

[-] 1 points by JGriff99mph (507) 7 months ago

Freedom comes in levels, including the market aspect, depending on whats someones opinions are.

Some consider this a free market. Others a centrally controlled disaster. Others think its somewhere in the middle.

Whats your take?

[Removed]

[-] 1 points by JGriff99mph (507) 7 months ago

For the millionth time, its a matter of level, not a totality. Why is this so hard to grasp for people?

[Removed]

[-] 1 points by JGriff99mph (507) 7 months ago

I'm afraid you are missing the entire point. Its not about totality, as in impossible vs possible.

Are 100% free markets locked?? No. Are there methods to get to close to that point? Of course.

Freedom with anything is a goal, is a concept, its something to strive for. Its not a spot that once you are there, you are there. Its dynamic. Its complicated.

I would ask you that if you believe it is 100% impossible, and not worth striving to find a good balance, then what is your solution?

[Removed]

[-] 1 points by bullfrogma (448) 7 months ago

What makes you think that? I'd help me believe you if there was a reason.

And what about a socialist market? Is that free?

[-] 1 points by JGriff99mph (507) 7 months ago

"I would ask you that if you believe it is 100% impossible, and not worth striving to find a good balance, then what is your solution?"

So....?

[Removed]

[Removed]

[Removed]

[Removed]

[Removed]

[Removed]

[Removed]

[Removed]

[Removed]

[Removed]

[-] 0 points by hyperion (10) 7 months ago

You're a tool being used

http://twitchy.com/2014/03/21/washington-post-walks-back-bogus-piece-on-koch-brothers-oil-sands-holdings/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter

Don't feel bad. Fox does the same thing to my uncle and he's way smarter than you. I'll do my best to protect you

[Removed]

[Removed]

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

And topical too................:)

Much more fun than the recurrent soap opera of the banned.

I wish they would just leave. maybe some of those they've chased away will return, if they do.

[Removed]

[-] -3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

And the Koch's said.

"keep your stinkin' OWS hands off my government."

Send in the college libe(R)tarians!!!

[Removed]

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

This place was so riddled with libe(R)tarians in the early days, you know they were everywhere else.............enmasse.

and some of these bozos were/are worried about Dems???

LOL

almost funny.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 8675309 points by DKAtoday (8675309) from Coon Rapids, MN

What I find particularly Bizarre is anyone having a problem with dissing the republicans in office ( most especially the leadership ).

I mean they are in revolt - open treasonous revolt - the leadership anyway and the others are meekly following along - they absolutely have nothing to do with upholding republican ideals - they shit on their supporters - openly - they run for office "saying" that they are gonna shit on the majority of their supporters.

They are openly and vehemently working only for the wealthy few and the corp(se)oRATions and yet and yet. Even those who say that they are not republican - DEFEND THEM feel that they need to attack the Democrats as they feel it is an equal comparison.

Just exactly how insane is THAT ????

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

Apparently, they are also afraid to follow the links that prove it.

I get that a lot.

Then I get insulted and accused of being the "grand inquisitor"

I'm like....Wait?? What??

If you don't want to be questioned, what are you doing in a public forum?

Was everyone really supposed to believe whatever BS you pass, without question??

what kind shit is that?

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 8675309 points by DKAtoday (8675309) from Coon Rapids, MN

Yep - just exactly what is it - to claim to be a protestor a supporter of OWS/Occupy and fighting the status-quo destroyers of the world. But never get actively positively involved with bringing in and sharing information about any of it.

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

geez DKA

will we be able to your posts when your points go negative ?

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 8675309 points by DKAtoday (8675309) from Coon Rapids, MN

Eh? What did you just try to say? I think I got part of it - but not all of the question. Something about points is all I am sure of. You wanna try and re-state that?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

I think people with negative point scores get shadow banned

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 8675309 points by DKAtoday (8675309) from Coon Rapids, MN

That = " I think people with negative point scores get shadow banned "

I do not know - but looks like I should find out in a bit.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

[-] 8675309 points by DKAtoday (8675309) from Coon Rapids, MN

Sure no prob. Though it would be funny if the shill was obsessed enough to take the score as far negative as it had once been positive.

maybe we desire answers to problems that won't solve

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

reply to my comment if that happens

I believe I will still get a notification alert

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 8675309 points by DKAtoday (8675309) from Coon Rapids, MN

Sure no prob. Though it would be funny if the shill was obsessed enough to take the score as far negative as it had once been positive.

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

Yeah, It's like........the Koch's are anti-establishment too, in a lot ways.

Being "anti-establishment" is meaningless without further qualification and that means answering questions.

So I do and it pisses 'em off.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 8675309 points by DKAtoday (8675309) from Coon Rapids, MN

Yep - the Kochs are anti-establishment - as far as where the establishment is not fully in their control. Ummm I am thinking that that is not a good way to be anti-establishment.

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

Exactly.

It needs to be qualified, and that takes questions and honest clear answers.

I don't get too many of those.

[-] -3 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 1 year ago

27 comments by the same three people. Nice job creating a vibrant environment.

Do you realize how many of us converse via email and pms? You guys have run roughshod over the entire thing.

You get to call people faggots, call women cunts, claim anyone who is different must be a right wing piece of shit, etc.

Great job. This is quite the creative environment.

Completely. Fuckin. Dead.

What a fuckin shame. Enjoy patting each other on the back for the rest of the evening.

If I had the power to ban people and banned you repeatedly, and let others skate free, what would you think of me?

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 8675309 points by DKAtoday (8675309) from Coon Rapids, MN

Say's Eeyore who never contributes anything - unless he has been rightfully blasted often enough where others might stop and consider - HuH - When "IS" the last time Eeyore contributed something - then it becoming increasingly obvious you finally post something or make a few contributing comments on a post.

U can thank Ur shill buddy for the lack of participants - you know who I am talking about - yep - the eternal shill.

Myself? generally I leave you alone as - for the most part - you are pretty harmless. But then you go and ask for attention and then it is only proper to share with you what I have observed.

[+] -4 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 1 year ago

Wrong again. The site doesnt answer. Quite a few have been emailing complaining about things as Im sure you know.

Getting an answer from the site isnt going to happen.

Like I said, if the abuse email is going to you, and you are the one pulling the trigger, then whats the point of that?

Just to make people grovel a little bit? Not happening.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 8675309 points by DKAtoday (8675309) from Coon Rapids, MN

Wrong again. The site doesnt answer. Quite a few have been emailing complaining about things as Im sure you know.

Who is wrong? I have had the eternal shill tell me he sent in an abuse e-mail. Did it actually do it? " I " don't think so. But if you R not getting a reply from the general e-mail address or the abuse e-mail address - I would suggest that you PM jart.

Just to make people grovel a little bit? Not happening.

You can make any excuse you want - Me ? - I really do not care about "your" crap - use what is available or not - your choice.

[+] -4 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 1 year ago

Well everyone is emailing general@occupywallst.org now because they are pretty sure the abuse one goes straight to you.

Either way, no one answers.

Moderators at GA's dont participate in opinions or discussions, for obvious reasons. They are there to guide the process and thats it.

Personally, I'm too energetic to have stood up there and not be able to comment, but thats just me.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 8675309 points by DKAtoday (8675309) from Coon Rapids, MN

BTW - I find it extremely funny that U and Odin and ? - would complain to the site - I mean as you have never gone to the site to see about getting your account restored - not one single time - Odin did - at least once - jart gave him a break - Odin abused it - jart booted him.

On that note we have for you:

Additional Information

If you want to question a ban, also email abuse, we're open to discussion and at least one ban did get reverted; what you don't do is make a slew of sockpuppets. That's the best way for future bans to be immediate and without second thoughts.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 8675309 points by DKAtoday (8675309) from Coon Rapids, MN

PM jart it is her site - who better to contact?

By everyone you mean U and Odin? As I don't see your shill buddy doing something like that.

[+] -4 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 1 year ago

Its an internet chat room, we are all harmless. And only one goes around calling for blood and shooting people, repeatedly- another one that gets a pass every time.

I'm going to assume if the power was reversed, and I banned you all the time and let others slide....you would prob

HATE MY FUCKIN GUTS

Right? Is that not a natural human reaction?

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 8675309 points by DKAtoday (8675309) from Coon Rapids, MN

Hell - if you were the site moderator? I doubt I would have hung around for a week. Also - if the site ever saw fit to ban me? I wouldn't return - not without the site restoring my account anyway.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

http://www.occupy.com/article/exxon-cleans-arkansas-oil-spill-keystone-plan-assailed

Yeah, but it's not like soap opera of the banned, ever talks about issues like this anyway.

FEAR, is all you have, and now apparently a cadre of former trolls.

And as is usual for your insulting comments, this one had nothing to do with the subject at hand.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

Nope.

Issues aren't really your thing.

I asked you to cash your check on following the money.

You failed, out of FEAR.

You either couldn't, or wouldn't follow the money.

And you won't say which.

That's dishonest.

So I have to ask why are you being dishonest?

So why are you being dishonest?

[Removed]

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

Buy em a book, send 'em to school, and what do they do?

They eat the pages.

Probably doesn't matter. It came from the Texas schoolbook suppository.

Ron Lawl!!

[Removed]

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 8675309 points by DKAtoday (8675309) from Coon Rapids, MN

It's picture is in the psychologist's encyclopedia for example of extreme obsessive compulsive. {:-])

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

Someone needs to tape a dime to his tone arm. The record's skipping.

I've often considered, that it might be a big bot experiment.

You'd be surprised what can be done with a chat bot these days.

[Removed]

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

Soros...........................LOL

Oh wait.........the other money.....

Koch foundation.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 8675309 points by DKAtoday (8675309) from Coon Rapids, MN

Office Holder Portfolios ?

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

Since those guys who constantly attack us don't bother with Occupy information, I'll bring this thread back on topic with a little.

http://www.occupy.com/article/exxon-cleans-arkansas-oil-spill-keystone-plan-assailed

[Removed]

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 8675309 points by DKAtoday (8675309) from Coon Rapids, MN

It is Good to keep "REAL" issues out in front and in circulation.