Forum Post: WTF happened? Site was down for quite a while
Posted 12 years ago on May 18, 2012, 8:22 a.m. EST by richardkentgates
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Someone's been DDOS'ing occupywallst.org and natoprotest.org all mourning. They've probably got a botnet with at least 300 machines :\ It's pretty annoying
Haters need a new hobby
lol, some nitwit at the DHS I'm sure... don't have have any real terrorists to hassle?
When they get tired of hunting the specter of terrorism, they come after the anarchists :)
Thanks for doing whatever you did to rescue the site.
Thanks, jart, for all you do. The movement is powerful. That is why this is happening.
Hey jart.
The site remains under attack. Trashy would like you to weigh-in on the subject but seems reluctant to ask.
So sorry to bother you if you are currently working on this attack that is in progress.
But would you mind?
[-] 0 points by JoeWinters (-2) 1 minute ago
Correlation without causation. It's not because I did something in the past that I'm the one doing it now. But, it does not matter. You can believe what you want.
If you truly cared about the truth, if you were not the conspiracy theory bullshiter I accuse you of, then you would search for the truth and ask jart. Of course, you don't because I'm right and you're just another delusional mentally ill conspiracy theorist. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (7487) from Coon Rapids, MN 0 minutes ago
OK I will ask jart to weigh-in on this current mess of yours. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply edit delete permalink
What's wrong now >_> I don't see anything wrong.
disingenuous.
Trashy has been running amok again using sock puppets to attack users/contributors.
Remember fixing the damage that the bot attack did?
One of my Posts: Get Active. Be Proactive. Unite in common cause.
Had been entirely collapsed during that bot attack. When you ended that attack and pranked me with Jenny's number. Those threads were all restored. If you go there now you will see that much of it has been collapsed again.
Start at the bottom and scroll up - you will see what I mean.
OH another sign that this was significant ? My score had returned to something like 8500 after your prank expiered - now it is 7487. Probably less when the system updates tonight.
So the bot attack was stopped but not trashy's.
The others here can affirm the problems that they have had as well.
Nope, not me. Your conspiracy theorist delusions are playing a trick on you.
This ain't no Donkey Kong. Karma points don't matter, only your arguments and opinions do. And anyhow, you got over 7000 points, you should be happy with that. Damn, this new generation of spoiled kids. Always wanting more...
The point is that over 1100 points were cast to down vote my comments on a post about uniting in common cause.
Now those collapsed comments were not all mine as others who commented on those threads also got collapsed.
Some one does not like the thought of promoting unity.
Well, you'll never find out who is doing that if you keep using your conspiracy theory types methods. While you blame me without evidence, the real culprit is running about the site down voting you. It's kind of funny actually.
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huh did it ever accure to anyone that maybe the server hiccuped
yeah, on three websites simultaneously. One I know to be on a different server and producing a different error. It's plausible. Although the programmer for this site said it was a DOS attack and I see no reason to call anyone a liar.
NATO summitis tommorrow.... so perhpas they are trying to cut communications.
Stay alert people.
I have no doubt that tomorrow will be memorable. Our government seems hell bent on making excuses to solidify the new Orwellian rule. False flag to soliciting a mentally ill person for the creation of a poster boy Occupy psycho, anything is possible.
I get a blocked ip trying to access my computer about every half hour
Well, it is now known that the whitehouse gave approval to not only abuse DHS for spying on Occupy but to lie to the media as well. It's a sad thing to see the war pigs shoving their wares and reason into our country but I guess they realized endless war is no longer going to be tolerated by the international community so they have worked methodically using the same reasoning and excuses to warp the minds of our politicians with fear and paranoia so as to continue harvesting our cash with citizens as the scapegoat. Nothing like the feeling of some pimple face little jerkoff peering at your life through a microscope in the name of "National Security" :D
Thanks to jart and whoever else does the work. You rescued this important site. Your work is appreciated. Interesting how this attack happened just when "Thrassy as "himself" made a new appearance here.
Anyone know why all the problems? Looking at time gaps posts, it looks like the site was down for an hour, the again for 45 minutes.
If anyone wonders why OWS isn't being taken seriously by more people, just peruse the little flame war below. It comes across as a bunch of bratty 15 year-olds trying to out-trash each other. Not really the sort of thing that's going to get the Chinese government or Henry Kissinger or the Dalai Lama to take you seriously.
Agreed, that and the fact that it's the new front for the 911 Truth movement.
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The attacks continue as the greedy corrupt criminals continue to squirm under pressure from the movements against them.
Love It.
They let us know by their attention that we count.
Keep it up people.
Do you really think any attack is something done by corporate interests? I look at the number of people here. They are dedicated but small in number. I think it's more likely the attacks are just a few random trolls.
Believe what you will. Things are beginning to happen. Protests and communications are waking people-up. This is a communications Hub - a Hub that just so happens is about the people regaining control of their government and their world. It is specifically about punishing the white collar criminals of wallstreet. Now oops JPM accidentally throws the evidence against them directly into their opponents hands. Accident?
No you go ahead and ignore the fact that what is spoken about and shared here travels out to other communications Hubs to other groups fighting the corrupt greedy criminal monsters.
The corrupt are not treating these movements as meaningless.
News Blackout almost from day 1.
Yeah no they don't care about us.
Really?
You are wrong my little conspiracy theorist. I did not have anything to do with the last bot attack. And, what's funnier is that you could simply ask jart and the moderators to confirm this, but you choose not too. You believe in hanging people before having evidence. A future world with you at the helm would be disastrous. Innocent until proven guilty should always be the way. Take a moment and gather some evidence. Its easy, just message jart. Stop being a sloppy researcher like all the conspiracy theorists on this site.
Strategy must evolve.
Do you know why?
Because once used and identified - it is recognizable.
You are either very lazy or you think people forget what you have done in the past.
Correlation without causation. It's not because I did something in the past that I'm the one doing it now. But, it does not matter. You can believe what you want.
If you truly cared about the truth, if you were not the conspiracy theory bullshiter I accuse you of, then you would search for the truth and ask jart. Of course, you don't because I'm right and you're just another delusional mentally ill conspiracy theorist.
OK I will ask jart to weigh-in on this current mess of yours.
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A communication hub for who? This site gets hit one third of what it used to. There are about 10 regular posters now. There's really not much going on here. I think people who pay hackers to hack have much more important targets.
I know it's an ego thing and you want to feel important because you keep posting here, but really, you don't have that much of a big audience. Hell, half the users you exchange with are myself under various names and character styles.
I agree with JenLynn, it's most probably a bored hacker that decided to attack the site by himself. I really don't believe anyone is being paid to attack this site. It's just not that important.
In any case, this site has already been ruined by half the posters here who just want to talk about conspiracy theories and other nonsense. It doesn't have much to do with OWS at all anymore. OWS remains, but this site is essentially dead. It's just useless and uninteresting now.
What's left but to do the Manchurian? The newest dance that's taking over the nation.
That would be why you are here fucking around. Hey?
That would also be why you and yours like to attack this site - right?
I mean because it is of no consequence.
Right?
Asshole.
I never attacked the site, only conspiracy theorists. Someone else is attacking the site.
Your certainly not helping. At the very least you are being a tool of the 1%.
Actually, I sent a message to jart yesterday with two important modifications she could do to hamper bots. If she implemented those code changes which would take a few hours at most, bots would be hampered severely.
I did more to help circumvent bots around here than you ever did. I know how the system works in and out because I created bots for proof of concept. I offered many many suggestions to jart, but she has not implemented any of them yet.
tech help? please. your put downs of the site, and the people on it are whats damaging and unhelpful. So there. Support OWS. They fight for you.
Yes, my tech help. I can easily give you two ideas that would hamper bots quite a bit. Why? Because I know exactly how the whole thing works. What put downs? The conspiracy theorists? They aren't even allowed to post in the first place!
I support OWS, and the way that I do that is that I expose ludicrous conspiracy theorists who are making OWS look like a joke. I care enough to point the finger to those who are destroying serious thought amongst our ranks. I guess you just don't care if OWS becomes a movement used to talk about the Machurians and satanic rituals. Well, sorry buddy, but I don't want that to happen. I want OWS to be about serious academic discourse. Conspiracy theorists must die!
I also do not want the site misused. But to suggests that anyone "must die" illustrates your failure. It's extreme. its unhelpful. What do you support about OWS.? I haven't noticed support at all amongst your many posts.
You read 1% of my posts. When I support OWS, I use other users. Saying that a type of person must die is metaphorical. It only means they must be eliminated from this site. I support many aspects of OWS, one of them is the fight for economic justice and a better fairer society for all.
Other users? what is the purpose of that? Isn't it dishonest?
I answered those questions in many threads before. Is it my fault you are late for the party?
Like I said, I believe in socialism. Free health-care, and free education for all. Keep capitalism, but control it tightly. Controlled capitalism. First step in the states is to remove money from politics so that the people can regain control of the government. Once that's done, then other demands can follow. More taxes in the rich bracket. Welfare for all. In a nutshell, US needs to be more like Sweden and Canada (before Harper).
Also, and this might not seem important to you, but it's SUPER important for me. Get ride of all the conspiracy theory mumbo jumbo of America. It's destroying the discussion we have with the government and ruining everything for everybody. We can't talk about real issues like the budget, because half the people here only want to talk about 911 truth bullshit. Yeah yeah, there were no planes it was a bunch of holograms. Can we talk about something else already. How about some real issues. On cigarette packs we have a warning. Do the same for conspiracy theory TV shows and articles. WARNING: THe INFOrMATION HEREIN IS NOT SCIENTIFIC. IT IS PSEUDOSCIENCE ONLY TO ENTERTAIN. THERE REALLY IS NO BIGFOOT.
Allright get a grip. you sound pretty clean on the issues but I think you should leave the policing to the mods. You seem a little extreme on this conspiracy issue. I agree they should be removed and they hurt the movement but I think you go too far when you take it upon yourself to police it. Hang in there. and support OWS
Why don't you ask him or make a search of his prior threads. I'm not here to spoon feed you. One which he believes in is 911 truth nonsense. There are others. Please search. You'll notice he calls anyone who doesn't agree with him a troll. I consider that trollish. He is here only to waste your time.
I gave you links to three posts I made which have nothing do to with conspiracy theories in my long posting below. Again, I'm not going to spoon feed you, take a moment to read them if you really care. Since you didn't even look at those links, I assume you don't care or are lazy.
No, because the moderators, admins, and jart don't do it. I do. It's pretty clear what are conspiracy theories. 911 truth, Machurians, New World Order, chip controlled individuals, etc... I only go after the worst cases like Reneye and arturo.
And, again, I don't have a problem with civil disobedience. Do you? If you do, perhaps you should not be part of OWS. Occupy does a lot of stuff that is not legal.
Perhaps hyper tech con trolls your lips
How darling, I love your Manchurian eyes
You should leave the policing to the mods. I will ask DKA about 911 truther theory. You don't have to spoon feed me. but don't ask me to read through this enormous forum. What are you hiding? Where do you stand? Healthcare for all? forgive the debt that criminal bankers continue to enslave the working class with.? regulate the banks.? buffet rule? repeal corporate personhood? Speak up! be a man! enough with this childishness. Where do you stand vigilante boy?
Sure. First, let it be said that I am a socialist, and not an anarchist. However, I do believe in OWS and am happy for their efforts to go up against the government. My way of supporting OWS is not to believe it is 100% perfect, but to criticize the flaws I see in the movement. I criticize those flaws because I think OWS can be better, I know OWS can be better, and I hope OWS will become better.
One of those major flaws is the invasion of conspiracy theorists on this site. They make us look like a bunch of illogical mentally-ill teenagers. And, they go against the forum rules. (Please take a moment now to read the forum rules and you will see that talking about conspiracy theories is not allowed)
During the Christmas holidays, this site was under a massive spam bot attack. The bots were posting football games scores and flooding the forum with useless threads. Jart and the moderators were on holidays, and since I am a programmer I created a few bots to retaliate against this attack. EnglandPatriot was helping me.
Once this attack was over (jart and the admins came back and installed a Bayesian filtering system which essentially killed them off) I decided to use my bots against the conspiracy theorists which were destroying the forum at that time. 911 truthers were particularly annoying. I told jart about this and it didn't bother her. I used my bots to attack them in various ways and many left the site. Jart, the moderators, and I were very happy. I kept using my bots once in awhile and killed off other members like TIOUAISE who was a mastermind conspiracy theorist in his own right. I never attacked legitimate OWS supporters, only those that broke the rules and made this site look horrible. Finally, an admin that didn't know me banned me. After that, I came back under various names and kept using my bots for the good of the site, but then I got a job and had to stop. I destroyed my bot code as I didn't want to be tempted to use it again, and did not come on the site for several months until a few days back when I was sick. I'll most likely leave in a few days.
Those who call me trolls are the conspiracy theorists of course. They hate me because I was attacking them directly. The worst offender is Renneye. She was Reneye before, and Renaye before that. The admin keeps banning her, but she comes back.
Here are some examples of her nonsensical postings which harm the reputation of OWS and are designed to waste everyone's time on this forum.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/amazing-alternate-news-website-httpgonobwordpressc/
In that beautiful piece she proposes that we use gonod.wordpress.com in order to find news. She links to one of their articles as an example:
http://gonob.wordpress.com/2012/04/05/cia-neutralization-example-by-chip-tatum/
In that article, we can read the following extract (I suggest you read the whole article as it is highly entertaining and helps us understand the devious mind of Reneye).
Another wonderful article by Renaye is the one about mind-conrolled citizens. We are told their minds are controlled via computer chips which are secretly implemented at their birth.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/svali-elite-mind-control-programmer-rare-interview/
So, you ask am I a troll. Well, the conspiracy theorists think I am, and I'll leave it for you to decide. If you are a fan of the Manchurians or the New World Order than you will likely say yes and become one of my targets. It could also be that you don't care if OWS becomes a home to conspiracy theorists, in that case I would disagree with you as I believe a new and better world can only be created through the use of logic and scientific inquiry: I believe pseudosciences must be left outside in the cold.
There are many conspiracy theorists here, DKAtoday, shaz66, arturo, Reneye, etc... They all consider me the master troll. Some have called me the Troll Fuhrer.
Most people who call others trolls do it to stop the discussion. They do it when they don't agree with someone's opinions or arguments but cannot formulate a rebuttal. It's sad.
Am I bad? Well, I did practice civil disobedience (I no longer use bots), but then again, don't we all as members of OWS. Isn't that what we do. Some occupy parks, I occupy conspiracy theorists.
Here are some of my serious posts from the good old days. Read, or not. You'll notice I criticize OWS. Not because I hate it, but because I want it to become better! I wouldn't spend time here if I didn't care about OWS.
I also do not want anyone to misuse the site. I am not a conspiracy theorist. So please do not target me. I don't suppose you see the flaw in taking it upon yourself to be judge, jury and executioner of who is a conspiracy theorist do you? For instance which conspiracy does DKA espouse? and beyond conspiracy vigilante work, what issues do you care about?
Where have I suggested that dishonesty is a valid response? You don't have to believe what I say, but to answer your question, you can believe what I say by looking at evidence.
Fine. Will you answer now?
The evidence - the recent bot attack - the unknown attacker (s?) used the same attack comments as you use now.
Funny and totally unrelated I know. Coincidence - I know.
You had the same tale-tell in your last major attack on the site.
Those who do not learn from the past are doomed/destined/likely to repeat it.
Dishonest? Why?
The purpose is to avoid logical fallacies. You see, many people here don't discuss arguments but use fallacies such has appeal to motive, or ad hominem. Some people who know JoeWinters will automatically call him a troll no matter what he writes. Those same people who read what I write under a different name will often agree or discuss in a proper manner by attacking my arguments and not my character.
What does it matter. We don't know each other anyways. We are all characters here.
If it were up to me, I wouldn't even put the names of the people who post. All writings would be anonymous. That way, people would always have to attack the arguments and never the proposer.
Another thing I would get ride of is karma points. Same problem. People base their reply on the number of points someone has.
The ONLY thing that matters are arguments. Not who wrote them, how long he's been a member, or how many karma points he has.
I don't pay much attention to score.
I do know what I like to read
and am more likely to read a post from
someone I already recognize and respect.
Does that mean you use different arguments as different users? that would seem clever (not realy), but not honest. Are you known as a troll because you are a troll.? Isn't that bad? You mentioned in an earlier post that you didn't hack the site "this time". Have you hacked it before? isn't that bad?
I am willing to answer all your question under one condition. You must read all the links I provide and you must keep an open mind. Do not believe what I say at face value and do not believe what others say at face value. Make up your own mind in light of the evidence I will provide. Do you agree?
I willl have an open mind always not because request it. I'll read what I want if it is worth while. You can answer if you like. but you've already suggested that dishonesty is a valid response so how can I believe what you say?
You need multiple sock puppets to do that - Hey?
Too bad the Dems aren't funding us like they fund you, DKAtoday. If they did, we could use more spin plants and less sock puppets, huh?
where are the republicans ?
Now you need to reply to yourself instead of to me to let your attacks go un opposed for a moment?
Is U gettin fwustwated?
Hhmmm?
[-] 0 points by able123 (1) 10 minutes ago
The reason you pose questions in postings that cannot be replied to is because you don't want the answers posted, DKAtoday. You are sooooo transparent. Are you the best plant Bushbamney could come up with? I doubt it...
http://occupywallst.org/forum/wtf-happened-site-was-down-for-quite-a-while/#comment-739252 ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink
U R funny. You mean to tell Us that it is not you running around on old posts and voting down comments?
See though I do not care about my score - I do care about you collapsing comments and subsequently the attached threads.
You say you don't like censorship - and - YET - You do it.
[-] 0 points by able123 (1) 6 minutes ago
DKAtoday likes to lurk down at the end of long forum threads like this where he thinks he can deposit his pro-regime pollution without getting called out on it:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/wtf-happened-site-was-down-for-quite-a-while/#comment-739217 ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink
U R funny.
If jart or any "real" supporters of the movements against greed corruption and crime had a problem with me - I would not be here as I would have been banned.
You on the other hand get constantly banned - Hence your multiple personality ( easy to spot ) Sock Puppets.
Hell you even set-up posts that only you and you other selves debate on. How weird are you?
The reason you pose questions in postings that cannot be replied to is because you don't want the answers posted, DKAtoday. You are sooooo transparent. Are you the best plant Bushbamney could come up with? I doubt it...
http://occupywallst.org/forum/wtf-happened-site-was-down-for-quite-a-while/#comment-739252
DKAtoday likes to lurk down at the end of long forum threads like this where he thinks he can deposit his pro-regime pollution without getting called out on it:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/wtf-happened-site-was-down-for-quite-a-while/#comment-739217
Yes currently site security sucks.
Funny how that happens when you show-up.
Funny, but it has nothing to do with me this time. Jart can confirm that by looking at IPS.
As for the down vote attack against you, it wasn't me, but I know how it was done because I did it to other people before. There are two very easy changes this site could make that would hamper that type of attack. I shared that information with jart. Hopefully, she will make those changes. But, I think she won't.
Yep - you have not changed.
Plead innocence.
Plead the case of you just wanting to be helpful.
Play with your sock puppet multiple identities.
The stuff that is happening to the site is coincidental.
Yeah - Right.
Same story - same game.
I do not plead innocence, because you have showed no proof. Of course, you are a conspiracy theorist so you do not care about proof. If you did, you would simply ask jart to cross check IPs and she would confirm that the latest bot attacks were not from me. But yeah, you're a conspiracy theorist, so you prefer your delusions than the truth. That's fine. I don't care what you believe.
con·spire/kənˈspī(ə)r/ Verb:
Make secret plans jointly to commit an unlawful or harmful act. (of events or circumstances) Seem to be working together to bring about a particular result, typically to someone's detriment.
When this stuff happens?
Guess what?
Not a theory!
Suck on it. Shit head.
we blow up a family in Yemen again ?
No Trashy ( and sock puppets ) is trying to burn this forum again.
Yes, there IS a conspiracy infesting this forum, DKAtoday. Its purpose is to perpetuate two-party tyranny, and the plants/conspirators involved include you, Factsrfun, JIFFYSQUID92 and your idiot sidekick Shooz.
What is "wrong" is that our "legal Democratic Process" is NOT legal (e.g. bribes and rigged voting machines) and NOT democratic (false choices, two puppets, one master). But you know that, you Demopublican piece of shit:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/wtf-happened-site-was-down-for-quite-a-while/#comment-739231
Don't forget Renaye, Reneye, and Renneye. She is the worst. Do you remember the story of people being mind controlled by computer chips?
http://occupywallst.org/forum/svali-elite-mind-control-programmer-rare-interview/
These people are the true trolls and they are here to make OWS look like a bunch of illogical teenagers.
Wow your "theory sucks".
What is wrong with pushing support for OSTA or money out of politics or repeal of corporate personhood etc etc etc or getting traitors to the people removed from office by owning our legal Democratic Process?
U is SCREWY.
Yes, my point exactly. You could get strong evidence from jart, but prefer to use weak circumstantial evidence. Because, well, that's what conspiracy theorists do. You guys stay away from real evidence like the plague!
Circumstantial is acceptable in a court of law.
This is jart's site - she can speak for you if she would like to.
I'm thinking she does not want to.
It's interesting that you refuse to gather evidence before accusing me of something, especially since getting evidence from jart would be so easy. It's very telling of your type. I hope you never run the world, because I believe in innocent until proven guilty. I guess that does not matter for you.
It's known as circumstantial.
As such it is the circumstances of your appearances that convict you.
Same shit happens every time you come around.
Circumstantial.
Look it up.
Cry us a river, DKatoday, you pro-regime propaganda-propagating pussy. Demopublican plants like you and Factsrfun deserved the downvote drubbing you got last week and then some. I'd wager the only reason you two jerks came back here is that MoveOn.org or the Bushbamney election circus pays you to be here...
Forget who you were able123 (1) ? Or does JoeWinters (-2) need your help?
Do DKAtoday, Factsrfun, JIFFYSQUID92 and their idiot sidekick Shooz all post from the same pro-regime propaganda playbook, plant?
Why able123 (1) !!!
You shock me!!!!!!!
Conspiracy Theory?
From You?
You are one ungrateful asshole, DKAtoday: The anarchists running this forum were kind enough to intercede and save your pro-regime propaganda-propagating pussy ass last week and you thank them with insults. If it had been left up to me, I'd've let you drown in all those well-deserved downvotes.
Language! Why can't you discuss like civilized person? you show yourself to be the problem.
Puppet.
A statement of fact - is just that.
And you have none.
Blind marcher.
Your pro-regime propaganda postings rarely have any substance, DKAtoday, and this drivel is no exception.
Hello, anybody there?
What happened?