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Posted 11 years ago on Sept. 13, 2013, 6:01 p.m. EST by bensdad (8977)
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Did you hear what Republican Senator Leah Vukmir is doing in response to a simple open records request? She not only outright refused to hand over records about her ALEC affiliation, her Chief of Staff accosted a representative of the court while being subpoenaed and she even went so far as to ask the Republican State Attorney General for an opinion saying legislators cannot be sued for violating open records law.

Show these Republicans that they are not above the law . The only way to stop Republicans and their cavalier attitude is to restore a Democratic senate majority.

What does Senator Vukmir have to hide? Is she afraid the public will see records about ALEC written bills and her attendance at their swanky corporate-funded events?

Wisconsinites deserve to know whether legislators are being wined and dined at ALEC events. No legislator is above the law -- it is simply unacceptable for a senator to act this way toward the public.

Senate Democrats will continue to fight for open government and against ALEC's influence in the Wisconsin Legislature.

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[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Wait..........you have Wisconsin Democrats that accepted money from a right wing faux privatization education group.

[-] -1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 11 years ago

Trolls unite. See how its done. Scroll down, watch the attacks.

Judge for yourself.

Who's actually out doing things, who's on the web picking fights?

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

[-] 1 points by TropicalDepression (477) 14 minutes ago

Trolls unite. See how its done. Scroll down, watch the attacks.

Judge for yourself.

Who's actually out doing things, who's on the web picking fights?

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U & broncoze? Hell you gotta show ur troll buddies some of ur less sedate crap. Don't ya stink? I mean you guys are already like a quadriplegic in an ass kickin contest.

I mean this one of ur's is particularly lame (btw not the one in the immediately following brackets): [ Wake the fuck up junior. ]

http://occupywallst.org/forum/wisconsin-rs/#comment-1002725

But you shills seem to be deaf dumb and blind - So - Never Mind.

[-] -3 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 11 years ago

I think we went through all of this mindset in 08 already. With what was deemed an overwhelming success, one of the best ever in the duopoly system.

And sure enough, as soon as all those Dems were elected, they buckled down and immediately starting changing some really big things.

  • Ended the bailouts
  • Ended the wars
  • Closed Gitmo and all hte other secret prisons
  • Brought the troops home
  • Changed the tax code
  • Pushed through green initiatives
  • Ended the oil company subsidies
  • Prosecuted Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan
  • National infrastructure plan

And last but not least, prosecuted the last admin for an illegal war.

Etc etc etc....

Oh wait. What? None of those things happened? They werent even brought up?

Shitty.

PS- Your Democrats are sucking money out of the ALEC corporate trough like no tomorrow. Wake the fuck up junior.

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 11 years ago

They are NOT my Democrats
but there around 250 D reps
can you SPECIFICALLY list ten D's and SPECIFICALLY how much they are getting from alec ?

[-] 1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 11 years ago

Its all right here for you:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/alec-board-members/

There was a handful of our resident ALEC experts who were absolutely 100% silent on this post.

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[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Are you STILL making stuff up about ALEC????

Still ignoring what they're doing and have already done all around you??

Yes.

Yes, you are.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-02-17/news/os-ed-alec-controls-legislators-021713-20130215_1_alec-model-bills-legislative-session

http://fcir.org/2012/04/18/alec-under-fire-in-florida/

http://www.postonpolitics.com/2013/06/progress-florida-examines-alecs-role-in-education/

Even a video, as I know of your FEAR of reading facts that don't fit your BS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmD_KO4Ojcs

Duopoly my ass.

In Florida it's purely an ALECopoly.

BTW, If this wasn't enough to convince you?

There plenty more.

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[-] -1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 11 years ago

House blocks bill to close Gitmo....thats grand. Unilateral bombs, yet torture is a bill process.

You are one hell of a loyal campaigner, thats for sure.

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[-] -2 points by zimvind (-157) 11 years ago

Uh, didn't the dems control both the house and senate for Obumbler's first 2 years in office?

[-] -2 points by zimvind (-157) 11 years ago

2 downvotes? Am I WRONG that Obumbler could have passed anything he wanted his first 2 years in office? Guess I should google it.

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[-] -3 points by broncoze (-126) 11 years ago

"The only way to stop Republicans and their cavalier attitude is to restore a Democratic senate majority."

Not true. They could elect a majority of third party candidates. That would teach both parties a lesson.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Like libertopians? The ones that latched on like dogs to the legs of the Green Party? The ones that hump the legs of the Republican Party?

[-] -2 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 11 years ago

Libertarians with the greens?

I dont think political discourse is really your thing. Don't quit your day job.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23822) 11 years ago

Here is the Green Party's position on "Welfare: A Commitment to Ending Poverty"

http://www.gp.org/committees/platform/2010/social-justice.php#1001034

It is the antithesis of libertarianism.

So is Jill Stein's Platform:

http://www.jillstein.org/summary_green_new_deal

[-] -1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 11 years ago

I'm well versed in the Green 10 Principles, I just dont understand how their desire for decentralized communities vibes with some of the other stuff.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23822) 11 years ago

I posted it for all to read to make the point that Jill Stein and the Green Party are not libertarian.

[-] 2 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 11 years ago

Apparently a few here are now claiming they are. Gotta love the internet.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23822) 11 years ago

Only facts can clear that up. If one group is calling to expand social welfare programs and the other wants to squash them altogether, then, what do you have? The answer. The Green Party is not libertarian and nothing in it's platform is there to attract them.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

That didn't stop the Libertarians from trying to latch on to the Green Party.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23822) 11 years ago

That shows how little most libertarians understand Austrian economics.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Really? I'm pretty sure they are the human Kudzu. I'd say that they know exactly what they are doing. Hence, the leg humping.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23822) 11 years ago

What do they get out of latching on to Jill Stein's platform which calls for things that are the antithesis of what they believe in?

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Something more palatable. Libertopians suck so much that they really don't get anywhere with the rest of society. In order for them to obtain any type of success is to latch on to something else.............Rethuglicans/Tea Party and the Green Party.

There are two or three threads on this site and there were several sites elsewhere.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23822) 11 years ago

Makes no sense for them to latch on to the Green Party. The Green Party does not stand for anything libertarian. But, okay.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

I didn't pull this out of my ass.

You know, you may think these are a bunch of little confused children that just don't get it but, considering the scale of damage that has already been accomplished by their alleged naivete--I don't have time for the blood suckers.

[-] -1 points by hutiIo (-5) 11 years ago

I didn't pull this out of my ass.

It probably fell out without you noticing. That often happens when one is too loose.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

'Morning Dicknose. How is our resident multiple ID teathuglican cockroach doing? You feeling ok? Did you look in the mirror today or are you still stuck in your jammies doing what you can to avoid it?

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

You should probably stop before I slap the shit out of your ass. Again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_libertarianism

http://occupywallst.org/forum/green-libertarian-party/

[-] -1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 11 years ago

How many Green meetings you ever been to, troll?

You keep your links and stats, I'll go off of real life.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Come on out little mother fucker. Let's hear your diatribe of the poor banned creatures. Again. Fuck your PR firm. You fucking sell out.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Listen you little fucking right wing paid to post multiple ID cockroach, you lack the fucking necessary brain cells to go round with me. So, pull your fucking head out of your ass you worthless piece of shit. Fuck you and your PR firm. That's right, douche. Fuck your PR Firm. Now, go bitch cry to the mods.

[-] -1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 11 years ago

A little bit of truth goes a long way. Got anymore links?

I'd spin you around in circles if this was a real debate, because all of your takes are MSM dribble or just total fabrications like Libertarians at Green meetings.

Thats hysterical.

See you say that, and then I ask you if thats what you saw?

And then you stammer and curse.

And then I ask you what meeting you saw this at?

And then, just like in 08 with that other idiot Palin, you stammer some more (what magazines you read?).

Pretty much wraps it up.

Have a nice day troll.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

LOL

You?

Talking about truth??

now that's funny.

Did you follow the money in N. Carolina yet??

Nope.

Did you follow the money in Florida yet?

Nope.

Did you confess to all your puppets yet?

Nope.

And so many more lies of omission from you.

No!

The last word you should be using in ANY post, is truth.

You have no idea what it is.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Still drunk from last night, then? Put your fucking crack pipe down. You are a two bit political whore. Fuck your PR Firm.

[+] -4 points by broncoze (-126) 11 years ago

Quick question for you about Obamacare. Is valtrex covered? Asking for a friend and figured you would know.

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 11 years ago

I get tax credit to help pay for bottom rung but I's don't got no income

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

pat pat pat

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 11 years ago

can't tell me ?

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

You're lying your ass off. If your income is so low that you don't have to file tax returns, then you don't have to pay jack. But, this has been lovely watching you spin. Carry on with your trollin' lyin' conniving bullshittin' ass.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 11 years ago

just tell me I can get a check up

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

pat pat pat

Your willful ignorance is absolutely charming.

[-] -1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 11 years ago

The fascsists will converge

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Hey look! It's Jeremy the fucking paid to post shill with his very own pr firm.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

One man and a lap-top can constitute a ''pr firm'' GF, lol !!! Also please perhaps further consider :

''It is evident ... that the dependence of the individual upon society is a fact of nature which cannot be abolished—just as in the case of ants and bees. However, while the whole life process of ants and bees is fixed down to the smallest detail by rigid, hereditary instincts, the social pattern and interrelationships of human beings are very variable and susceptible to change. Memory, the capacity to make new combinations, the gift of oral communication have made possible developments among human being which are not dictated by biological necessities. Such developments manifest themselves in traditions, institutions, and organizations; in literature; in scientific and engineering accomplishments; in works of art. This explains how it happens that, in a certain sense, man can influence his life through his own conduct, and that in this process conscious thinking and wanting can play a part.'' from :

pax ...

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Pat Pat Pat

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

You fucking pathetic multiple ID teathuglican piece of shit cockroach. Fuck your PR Firm. You haven't been able to debate your ass out of a paperbag. The only fucking troll is you and yours. Please, please, cry more poor banned fucknut shit.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 11 years ago

when was the last time one of the houses of congress was controlled by a "third party"
one of the primary reasons OWS has not flourished is the diversion into fairyland and pipedreams
If OWS had concentrated on ACHIEVEABLE goals, we would not be where we are today


OWS: http://corporationsarenotpeople.webuda.com