Forum Post: will the united states rise to the occasion or crumble under the weight of fascist totalitarian empire??????

"If we believe that we, as Americans, are bound together by a common concern for each other, then an urgent national priority is upon us. We must begin to end the disgrace of this other America. And this is one of the great tasks of leadership for us, as individuals and citizens this year. But even if we act to erase material poverty, there is another greater task, it is to confront the poverty of satisfaction—purpose and dignity—that afflicts us all. Too much and for too long, we seemed to have surrendered personal excellence and community values in the mere accumulation of material things. Our Gross National Product, now, is over $800 billion dollars a year, but that Gross National Product—if we judge the United States of America by that—that Gross National Product counts air pollution and cigarette advertising, and ambulances to clear our highways of carnage. It counts special locks for our doors and the jails for the people who break them. It counts the destruction of the redwood and the loss of our natural wonder in chaotic sprawl. It counts napalm and counts nuclear warheads and armored cars for the police to fight the riots in our cities. It counts Whitman's rifle and Speck's knife, and the television programs that glorify violence in order to sell toys to our children. Yet the gross national product does not allow for the health of our children, the quality of their education or the joy of their play. It does not include the beauty of our poetry or the strength of our marriages, the intelligence of our public debate or the integrity of our public officials. It measures neither our wit nor our courage, neither our wisdom nor our learning, neither our compassion nor our devotion to our country, it measures everything in short, except that which makes life worthwhile. And it can tell us everything about America except why we are proud that we are Americans."- RFK--university of kansas--march, 18, 1968

when is occupy gonna get serious in the spring? i feel like we had so much momentum and they really zapped it from us, i know there are a lot of people who were committed, but when are we gonna go out and really rally the people. it is past time for a new deal/bill of rights 2.0 and it is time for a whole new way one that accounts for people instead of profit and the bottom line. one that the truth, justice, freedom, and happiness are not just abstract concepts and ideas but real and tangible. it is time we all transformed ourselves into what we could be as a person, as a city, as state, as a nation, as a species the time has come for transformation we need to adopt a holistic/pluralistic approach for ourselves we can change nothing if we don't change the way we think, act, and live. the whole idea of simply making alterations to a severely flawed system is futile, they are going to get their new world order no matter what, unless of course we stop them by not changing the rules of the game but by changing the game itself. as long as we continue the capitalist extraction model we are doomed. greed is in fact not good. quantum physics, neuroscience, psychology, sociology, and biology they are all saying the same thing as ancient gnostic/esoteric/mystic traditions, wisdom, and ceremony. science and mysticism are finding a common ground with a large range of implications, any thoughts? Is quantum mysticism the new value system for a new holistic completely integrated society where both our archaic past and our scientific future are acknowledged and reconciled? Are psychedelics powerful tools to be used along with marijuana, nitrous oxide, strobe lights, meditation, yoga, tai chi, sensory depravation tanks, and ancient gnostic esoteric knowledge, mysticism, and rituals? Is there one basic truth that all the major religions have allowed to be corrupted? Do you need to reach the divine through others or can you achieve this yourself? we have to dream big. we have to imagine the impossible, to make it possible. we need to re-imagine the world from ourselves and our place how society is constructed from the ground up we can enter a new age of enlightenment from re-imagining ourselves as the talented and gifted human beings that we are integrating a completely holistic way of life instead of walking debt. we need to reimagine cities from the ground up. and just like our selves the need to be completely holistic/pluralistic. sustainably developed cities reinmagined with completely integrated design employing the highest levels of technology we possess as well as the brightest and most gifted engineers, scientists, architects, and artists designing and bringing the city to life completely integrated with the natural environment this is possible this is what we need completely integrated/holistic food production and manufacturing of goods and rendering of services and resource management so much of our energy waste and damage to the environment revolves around food production and suburban/rural living changing this is paramount to our survival as a species. we need to integrate the cities with technology and nature in new amazing and innovative ways. if we smash the old paradigm then we can have a whole new future if we play the same game even with different rules do you think we can ever really win? do you think reform will really fix the problem? do you really think everything was ok before corporate personhood and even the war on terror? do you think the new world order/old world order is not gonna plot and scheme to make their dreams our nightmares? if you do then you don't know who you are dealing with. they started wars and played both sides even ww1, ww2, and the cold war, they blew off president kennedy's head and likely had a hand in rfk and mlk as well as many others foreign and domestic leaders killed, they dismantled our manufacturing infrastructure for short term profits and their globalist agenda, they pulled iran-contra and supplied cocaine to fuel their operations, they likely false flagged on 9-11 or at a minimum allowed it to happen remember they false flagged the gulf of tonkin. they lied to invade iraq and tried to cover it up every step of the way. they allowed bin laden to remain free as justification for war for 10 years. they passed legislation last week that suspends habeas corpus and allows for the indefinite detention of us citizens with out trial. they have fema camps all over the country. they have a militarized police force trained to follow orders and never dissent even when they know they are clearly in the wrong. so you tell me what are they planning? so will we rise to the challenge and create a new game they can not play or will we simply become debt slaves working in debtor prisons it is already happening just look at illinois and other states. you pick your future new world order slave or a brand new society and culture that is as big and bold and wonderful as you can imagine of course it won't be perfect but to not try a better way because it is not perfect is insane. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bedecrwv-Mk&feature=player_embedded#! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbh5l0b2-0o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT50SV3W5K0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7lXYwcRppI http://megavideo.com/?v=FWNNJTJY http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/46300/The_Shadow_Effect__Leg__Spanish_/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESc68eqaHgc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gKX9TWRyfs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5smnJoGXl_k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtEIIMQQSPU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3MN9382eGY&feature=fvst http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAQ5mFkrlDs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4CCYLDs6vk http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4874421830690006054 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfH3NxrY_aM check out the links expand your mind