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Forum Post: Why Tesla's Battery For Your Home Should Terrify Utilities

Posted 2 years ago on Feb. 19, 2015, 12:11 p.m. EST by Nevada1 (5843)
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[-] 7 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Look ''not at Tesla, but at SolarCity, a company chaired by Musk and run by his cousin Lyndon Rive. SolarCity installs panels on people’s roofs, leases them for less than they’d be paying in energy bills, and sells surplus energy back to the local utility. It’s proven a tremendously successful model. Founded in 2006, the company now has 168,000 customers and controls 39 percent of the rapidly expanding residential solar market.

"The prospect of cheap solar panels combined with powerful batteries has been a source of significant anxiety in the utility sector. In 2013, the Edison Electric Institute, the trade group for investor-owned electric companies, issued a report warning that disruption was coming. "One can imagine a day when battery storage technology or micro turbines could allow customers to be electric grid independent," the report said, likening the speed of the coming transition to the one from landlines to cellphones 10 years ago. Suddenly regulated monopolies are finding themselves in competition with their own customers.''

From your very interesting link and to accompany your great post, see http://www.teslagenerator.com/ and http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/04/14/open-source-plans-modern-tesla-free-energy-generator-released/ but we must be very wary of possible future monopolies and open source this tech asap.

[-] 5 points by Nevada1 (5843) 2 years ago

Yes, open source info is a must. Thanks to internet, info is getting out there.

[-] 4 points by Shule (2638) 2 years ago

BTW, did you know Thomas Edison invented the Electric Chair and fried an elephant with electricity for the purposes of discrediting Tesla. The world went on to use Tesla's AC power anyway.

Imagine, using Tesla's resonant circuit, a.k.a. tesla generator, one can power bluetooth devices with no batteries! The main electronic device like a computer or cell phone tower would send signals out to its ancillary bluetooth devices which would then absorb the power by way of a built in resonant circuit. I only wonder why nobody marketed such a device yet.

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Nikola Tesla was a man well ahead of his time and we still have so much to learn from him. FREE and abundant energy as well as its safe transmission is possible now but it will be suppressed by bankers, corporations and all of those with vested interests who make much money from the current set up. See http://www.teslasociety.com/ and this documentary, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98QwPO1b5j4

[-] 3 points by Shule (2638) 2 years ago

Not too long time ago, I was talking to a young electrical engineer recently out of school. We were discussing electrical circuits and circuit boards when I mentioned Nikola Tesla. The young engineer answered " who is Nikola Tesla?" I was in shock. Seems like our learning institutions are in on the scam. It is if Nikola Tesla to this day is corporate America's worst nightmare.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 2 years ago

"Seems like our learning institutions are in on the scam"---------While people are trying so hard and paying so much, to get a real education.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

it all started with a free lunch

food production has become automated

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

''It is (as) if Nikola Tesla to this day is corporate America's worst nightmare.'' Bang, as nail meets hammer! + http://www.teslasciencecenter.org/ Saddening what you say about the young engineer.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

it's not like twitter isn't just a text search jump

buildible on independent platforms

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33169) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

What I have sent off to a couple of advocacy groups today:

You and I know that we need to cut the chains of fossil fuel dependency.

That we need to stop extracting transporting and using fossil fuel.

Whether it is Oil - LNG - Coal or even (yes) bio-fuel.

The process of extraction - IS - DIRTY = Polluting/poisoning of our water soil and air.

The process of transporting fossil fuel - IS - Dirty = Polluting/poisoning of our water soil and air.

The use of fossil fuel to generate electricity or to use as fuel for transportation - IS - DIRTY = Polluting/poisoning of our water soil and air.

This dirty product - from extraction to final customer use is deadly = causing multiple diseases and deaths.

BUT - to get rid of it we need alternatives.

The people who work in the industry - from the extraction and the transportation of it to the final use and or sale of it. They need to be shown that there is work for them to transition into. Clean Healthy well paying work. Work for College graduates as well as High School graduates. Work for Engineers ( Structural. Mechanical, Electrical) and work for entry level apprentices with growth/educational/career building potential.

To get people on board THEY MUST BE SHOWN THE OPPORTUNITIES.

There is so much more to be implemented other than wind farms and solar farms.

Growing crops for alternative fuel source - In My Opinion - Is a Mistake. Crops should be about healthy eating and ending starvation. Crops should also be about providing clothing material.

There are alternatives to burning any hydrocarbon or substitute for fuel.

Look at this. It must be a progression to go fossil fuel or bio-fuel free.

And this is not just about fossil fuel or bio-fuel workers. It is also about all of the end line users = Home owners or renters - business owners (industrial, manufacturing, transportation, farming, retail) - people who own a car or a truck for personal use as well as for a means to make a living.

You and every other group that is advocating for a healthy and prosperous world for ALL - MUST - educate the public as to the available alternatives to call for to support.

You could start with a TED Talk on Liquid Metal Batteries - which if implemented could immediately cut fossil fuel consumption for power generation by like 50% or more.

How???

By allowing fossil fuel power plants to shut down operation - as - the batteries will store power to be drawn on by business and the public - instead of having to run a power plant 24 hours a day seven days a week 365 days a year because they currently have no storage capability in the power grid.

These liquid metal batteries will need to be manufactured they will need to be installed they will need to be maintained. All of which = JOBS.

ALSO

Gr8 things are being done with wind and solar farms - these could also benefit with the implementation of the liquid metal batteries ( storage to be drawn upon as needed during periods of calm (no wind) as well as for solar off hours (night time no sun shining).

Beyond that however - have you ever looked into thorium reactor power plants? They are safe - they are cheap - they take hardly any land space for the facilities - the fuel can not be used to make nuclear weapons. Where a Uranium Power plant costs 50 to 60 million a year for fuel cost alone - a Thorium Power Plant would cost around 10,000 dollars a year for fuel to run.

LOOK AT THOSE COST SAVINGS - savings to be passed on the individual consumer as well as to the Business consumer. And there is no chance to ever see a Fukashima meltdown or Chernobyl meltdown incident.

Transportation? Again - with cheap electricity and the implementation of high grade batteries - the change over from gas stations to recharge stations - why couldn't transportation be mainly electric?

WHAT I AM SAYING IS - Protest is fine and Necessary - BUT - YOU HAVE TO SHOW THE PUBLIC THAT THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES AVAILABLE FOR IMPLEMENTATION RIGHT NOW - ALTERNATIVES THAT PROVIDE JOBS AS WELL AS CLEAN ENERGY. Then the people can see the wisdom of the protests as being very viable - environmentally and economically.

Your e-mail is fine - EXCEPT - that it does not educate on what we should be doing instead of Fossil Fuel production - pollution - use.

[-] 4 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

urban planning for localized market and production will cut the commute

saving fuel , air, and the people's time

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33169) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

If business operations are clean and quiet - there is no reason why they can not be scattered about through population centers. If transportation is clean and cheap - there is no reason to limit it as a means of business supply or transport. We Are As A Society And World Looking To Have More Gainful Employment After All - Not Less.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

greater movement of mass across distance with friction require more energy than shorter distance

friction exists

greater distance enpend more energy

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33169) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

With abundant clean cheap electricity to power transportation - people could start traveling around the USA again - providing customers for tourism.

[-] 4 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

ok superman

but moderation may lead to seeking something besides more power

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33169) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

BTW - what is it with you and your wanting to restrict free movement of the population?

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

road across the nation on the rails once

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33169) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

It's about time that power storage was undertaken. Instead of running a continual use it or lose it power grid.

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 2 years ago

Nice to get some good news.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33169) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I think alternative energy opportunities like power storage - could get some real traction in some eastern and south eastern states this winter.

[-] 6 points by turbocharger (1756) 2 years ago

Biggest obstacle is people keep putting the status quo back in charge of policy.