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Forum Post: Why should I move??

Posted 2 years ago on Oct. 23, 2011, 5:59 p.m. EST by RantCasey (782) from Saginaw, MI
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I laugh when I here trolls and so called self labeled patriots telling me if I don't like it here move? I do like it here. If u don't like democracy u should move. go to china they don't like freedom of speech there. U can show up to work as a slave everyday there. Real patriots keep there govt in check.

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[-] 4 points by April (3196) 2 years ago

I like it here too. I like democracy.
I just don't like how our government has been corrupted by money. 1% buys their representation. 99% are left with the scraps.

[-] 2 points by RantCasey (782) from Saginaw, MI 2 years ago

I agree this govt is corruptly controlled. The constitution is beutiful. But as the 99 percent we are starting to take responsibility. We voted in the wealthy. A majority of us did anyway. Let's kick em out and vote in people who represent us.

[-] 3 points by April (3196) 2 years ago

I don't think that people are necessarily the problem. I think the political process is the problem. There should be no money in the political process. It should all be publicly funded. Then our representatives will hear our voices. And not just the sound of the money talking. Then, if we don't like what they do, then we vote them out.

[-] 2 points by cmt (1195) from Tolland, CT 2 years ago

If we began refusing to vote for the candidate who got the most Wall Street cash, and swung just a few elections, it could have a big impact.

It just means to vote "away from Wall Street".

It would increase the value of voters and decrease the value of money in political minds, which would be a start. When we try to start with changing laws, I think we are on a playing field where the 1% is far ahead of us.

[-] 2 points by April (3196) 2 years ago

Its not just Wall Street. Its money coming from all over the place. Oil companies, pharmaceuticals, insurance companies. All of them. They all want something and they pay the government to get it.
Our government does not represent us. It represents the 1% that have the wealth to buy their influence in it.

[-] 1 points by cmt (1195) from Tolland, CT 2 years ago

I used it more to represent the big money than as an exacting standard. You are correct, but we need a shorthand phrase to convey the basic idea, and in addition, it is a group that is being watched and reported on, so we have information about that big money flow.

So if you can suggest a better slogan than vote "away from Wall Street", I'd love to hear it.

However, it's hard to get anything going if it gets overcomplicated. For example, this forum has had entirely too many discussions of how many percent the 99% reeeeeeaaaaalllllly is.

[-] 1 points by April (3196) 2 years ago

I would say "End Government Corruption" or "Get the money out of politics".

[-] 1 points by cmt (1195) from Tolland, CT 2 years ago

That's the goal, but it doesn't say what to do. That's the piece I'm aiming at. "Move your money" has the action in it.

"Vote away from Wall Street" isn't great, but I'll keep repeating it until I find a better one. The action is the key.

[-] 1 points by April (3196) 2 years ago

The action that is necessary is to create the pressure so that our government will enact Campaign Finance Reform. 100% public funding.

This is nothing new or radical. The problem is the BIG money always beats it back. There is some support in Congress for this now. I don't know if this has all the right stuff, but it proves there is some support. We need sustained public pressure, with massive numbers, through this protest to make it happen. To overcome the 1% who will try to beat it back.

http://fairelectionsnow.org/about-bill

[-] 1 points by cmt (1195) from Tolland, CT 2 years ago

I can see that I'm failing to communicate. I absolutely agree with the goal. What I am looking for is a single, constructive action that can be communicated in a single phrase people can relate to.

It is the idea of wind in the sails. We have lots of little boats out on the water - all the organizations working on these necessary issues you've outlined. We need the wind - the inspiration - all pushing in a single direction to get things moving.

My idea was that if enough people decided to avoid voting for the candidate who got the most money from WS / the 1%, and a few elections were affected, that it would get politicians' attention. It would put a little dent in the power of the 1%.

[-] 1 points by April (3196) 2 years ago

Well, I'm hoping we can get their attention before the election. Through protesting. Perhaps it may need to become a campaign issue.

Gov. Buddy Roemer does not take any BIG money. So far anyway. http://www.buddyroemer.com/ Sadly, nobody really knows him either.

[-] 1 points by sickmint79 (516) from Grayslake, IL 2 years ago

1% lobbies for special favors from the government. take the special favors away from government so they won't be able to hand them out.

[-] 1 points by cmt (1195) from Tolland, CT 2 years ago

If money is free speech, tents are free speech.

[-] 1 points by frankchurch1 (839) from Jersey City, NJ 2 years ago

The question is why do they like it.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

indeed, we must be responsible for our countries