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Forum Post: why not vote for the green party

Posted 10 years ago on Oct. 22, 2011, 7:30 p.m. EST by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA
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the appeal to brake up the bi-particine government

I. DEMOCRACY A. Political Reform B. Political Participation C. Community

Families and Children
Alternative Community Service

D. Free Speech and Media Reform E. Foreign Policy

Peace and Disarmament
A Real Road to Peace in the Middle East
Human Rights
Women's Rights
Puerto Rican Independence

F. Domestic Security G. Demilitarization and Exploration of Space

II. SOCIAL JUSTICE A. Civil Rights and Equal Rights

Women's Rights
Racial Discrimination
Indigenous Peoples
Justice for Native Hawaiians: Kanaka Maoli
Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity
Rights of the Disabled
Religious Freedom and Secular Equality
Youth Rights
GI and Veterans' Rights
Consumer Protection

B. Environmental Justice C. Economic Justice D. Welfare: A Commitment to Ending Poverty E. Education and the Arts

The Arts

F. Health Care

Universal Health Care

G. Labor H. Criminal Justice

Alternatives to Incarceration
Prison Conditions, Prisoner Treatment and Parolees
Criminal Justice Reform

I. Population J. Immigration / Emigration K. Housing and Homelessness

Renters/Tenants' Rights
Rent Control
Preserve and Increase Affordable Housing Supply
Fair Housing
Measures to Address Homelessness


Strong International Climate Treaty
Economic Policy for a Safer Climate
Repay Our Climate Debt
More Efficiency and Conservation
Clean, Green Energy and Jobs
Clean, Green Agriculture

B. Energy

Encourage Conservation and a Significant Decrease in our Energy Consumption, Institute National Energy Efficiency Standards
Move Decisively to an Energy System Based on Solar, Wind, Geo-Thermal, Marine, and other Cleaner Renewable Energy Sources
End the Use of Dirty and Dangerous Energy Sources
Plan for Decentralized, Bio-Regional Electricity Generation and Distribution
De-Carbonize and Re-Localize the Food System
Electrify the Transportation Sysrtem
Requirements for Eneergy Transistion

C. Nuclear Issues D. Transportation

Pedestrians and Bicyclists
Mass Treansit
Air Travel

E. Zero Waste, Reduce, Reuse, Recycle F. Clean Air / Greenhouse Effect / Ozone Depletion G. Land Use

Land Ownership and Property Rights
Urban Land Use
Rural Land Use
Public Land Use

H. Water I. Agriculture J. Biological Diversity K. Ethical Treatment of Animals L. Forestry Practices M. Ocean Protection

IV. ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY A. Ecological Economics B. Measuring Economic Progress - Economic Growth and the Steady-State Economy C. Curbing Corporate Power D. Livable Income E. Fair Taxation

Cut Taxes for Wage Workers
Fair Taxes for Corporations and the Wealthy
Eco-Taxes to Help Save the Planet
Taxes for a Better, Healthier USA

F. Local Economic Development G. Small Business and the Self-Employed H. Work and Job Creation I. Banking and Insurance Reform

Banking Reform
Monetary Reform (Greening the Dollar)
Insurance Reform
Broader Financial Industry Reforms

J. Pension Reform K. Anti-trust Enforcement L. Advanced Technology and Defense Conversion

A peacetime technology-based economy
Open Source Software

M. National Debt




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[-] 2 points by metapolitik (1110) 10 years ago
  • Downsize Wallstreet

    • Taxing Wall Street Speculation

    • Stopping Off Shore Tax-Havens

    • Taxing Multimillion Dollar Estates

    • 30% Reduction in the U.S. Military Budget

    • Get Money Out of Politics

    • Green New Deal

    • Employ Every American

    • Health Care for Every American

    • Education for Every Student

    • A Home for Every Family

    • Bring Our Troops Home

    • Repeal the Patriot Act

    • Address Climate Change

    • Sustainable Energy Infrastructure

    • Sustainable Transportation Infrastructure

    • Sustainable Production Infrastructure

    • Mass Transit

    • Regional Food Distribution

    • Organic Agriculture

    • Clean Manufacturing


[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 10 years ago

Lets do this.

I'm tired of all this aimlessness.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

they seem to look toward a brighter future

[-] 1 points by Salaam86 (161) from Springfield, IL 10 years ago

I support the Green Party all the way! They pretty much agree with everything the OWS movement stands for.

Just go to www.gp.org and see for yourselves.

[-] 1 points by cmt (1195) from Tolland, CT 10 years ago

Vote for them when they have a real chance to win, if you want. Some of them are great folks.

Voting for them when they can't possibly win plays right into the hands of the 1%, helping to ensure that their puppet wins over someone who might be less docile.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

the government needs a third party

[-] 1 points by cmt (1195) from Tolland, CT 10 years ago

Unfortunately, 3rd parties have helped the 1%, to the point that they have funded them in some elections. They have also recruited fake opponents to force unnecessary primaries, as in Wisconsin.

Rather than voting for a 3rd party, I believe we should identify the most "bought" candidate and then work to defeat that person. If we could make getting the most donations from the 1% a disadvantage, it would gradually move things in a more constructive direction.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

the two party system restricts our choice of platforms

to 2 list of issues of which some are support and others are not

[-] 1 points by cmt (1195) from Tolland, CT 10 years ago

True, especially if we aren't involved in the process before such things get set. It's too late by then.

Getting a third party strong enough to be constructive probably needs to start at the local level. There are some parties winning elections in a few towns in my area. If they get stronger and build...we shall see.

[-] 1 points by madeinusa (393) 10 years ago

An Open Letter to Andrew Cuomo from Howie Hawkins (Green Party) via email:


[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

a percent stock trade tax would make a small percentage of all stocks traded

keeping up with the inflationary nature of money for more practices of the stock market

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

People have lost faith in the bipartisan systems

where all policy is arranged into to list

it is not possible to support some issues of a party without supporting the other issues

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

I saw the green party at the Occupy San Diego rally

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

"New York's Green Party state committee adopted rules over the weekend that affirmed the party will run its own candidates on its own Green Party line. Meeting in a Rensselaer church on Saturday, May 21, the Greens ruled out running fusion candidates who appear on the ballot lines of more than one party."


[-] 1 points by madeinusa (393) 10 years ago

Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s (Tea party republican favorite) top secretary urged Albany Mayor Jerry Jennings on Friday to instruct city police to remove Occupy Albany protesters from a downtown park near the state Capitol if they tried to remain there after an 11 p.m curfew.

A person familiar with the matter said Cuomo’s secretary, Larry Schwartz, called Jennings late Friday morning and said that State Police, who control half of the park that is partly owned by the state of New York and city of Albany, would remove any protesters who did not comply with a curfew. The position of the governor’s office was in contrast to an earlier plan by Albany police to leave the protesters alone if they were peaceful, even if they stayed overnight.

Occupy Albany demonstrators began arriving at Lafayette/Academy park around noon. Half of the space is state land, the rest city property.

Read Brendan Lyons’ full story here

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

I'm sure they'll dispute the state property city property issue

[-] 1 points by madeinusa (393) 10 years ago

All for this in New York. Howie Hawkins for Governor! Buy made in USA, support American jobs.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

Green Parties world wide

"The first green parties in Europe were founded in the late 1970s, following the rise of environmental awareness and the development of new social movements. Green Parties in Belgium first made a breakthrough. Belgium had Green members of parliament elected first in the 1970s, and "


the green party already has candidates on ballots in the US

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

"F. Domestic Security G. Demilitarization and Exploration of Space"

I think genetic research would be the science to follow

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

I think it is possible to design life that can grow on other planets

[-] 0 points by socceronly (102) 10 years ago

This is beyond politics. Talking about parties at this point is a distraction.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

assuming the government does not throw in the towel

and ask OWS to restructure it,

people will want to vote for someone come next year

[-] 1 points by socceronly (102) 10 years ago

Of course. What I mean is that it isn't about promoting one party. The problems are bigger than the parties themselves.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

indeed right now I want

to use the green party to break the two party system