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Forum Post: Why Many Americans Are Registering As Independents, Instead of GOP or Democrat

Posted 2 years ago on July 19, 2012, 10:36 a.m. EST by JadedCitizen (4277)
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By the end of 2011, 40% of Americans identified as Independent voters, up 2% from 2010, and 5% in 2008. And rightly so. The president should be elected based on merit, not simply because he is a member of the most popular political party, or because his opponent was not. The increase in Independent voters demonstrates that a polarized two-party system no longer represents the majority of Americans, who are demanding an alternative to a system with such extreme divisions.

According to the most recent political poll from Gallup, frustration with the severe partisan nature of politics, and identification as an Independent, has reached a 60-year high. Support for the Democratic and Republican Party however, is at a 22-year low, with Democrats at 31%, and Republicans with only 27%. The same Gallup poll showed that by September 2011, 81% of Americans were unhappy with the way the country was being run, and “record levels of distrust in government and unfavorable views of both parties helped to create an environment that fostered political independence.”

Linda Killian of Politics Daily writes, “Many [independent voters] say they have been driven from the Republican and Democratic parties by…extremism and a failure to focus on the issues they consider most important… and are tired of partisan wrangling, which all too often results in either gridlock and a lack of action on the most important issues the nation faces.” The many shameless disagreements within the government this past year, are perfect examples of how representatives have become more interested in defeating each other, rather than working together for the good of the American people.

In the same interview with Linda Killian, one Independent voter said, "I'm just so turned off by everyone hurling insults at each other… instead of telling me what their position is ... all they want to do is tell me what their opponent is going to do wrong. I'm getting so sick of it." This sentiment is felt many who identify as Independent, and is a key motivation to remaining non-partisan when choosing the right candidate.

While an Independent voter may still have to choose between a Democrat and Republican in the end, the rise in independent voters signals a much-needed change in our traditional two-party system. Future candidates will need to expand their political views, and drop the exhausted party line, if they want to attract the support of the Independent voter.


Can we drop the other guy is worse routine (which puts off the majority of Americans)? and talk about the issues please.



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[-] 3 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

Xlnt post. In total Independent agreement since 1974. Don't think third party, think no party. We have the power. Do you have the courage? Vote for a person instead.

Both parties uses identical logic. If you vote outside of the party terrible, things will happen. The truth is, terrible things are happening now because you took that advice before. Break out of the party mind control. Look at the blind obedience of the other side. You are just as blind.

[-] 1 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

Well put JR. This article gives me a lot of hope that more people are figuring out the truth about the two-party monopoly.

[-] 2 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

Hey, good use of statistics. The real weakness of the two political parties is not apparent to many. Hopefully that will embolden their courage to finally break away and act like human beings instead of politically programmed robots. I swear, if they didn't have an R or a D in front of their names, the voters wouldn't have a clue who to vote for.

[-] 1 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

Speaking of the politically programmed robots that roam this forum....the phrase, "out of touch with the American people" comes to mind

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Parties lead to peer pressure which leads to people comprimising their values.


[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13470) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Can we drop the other guy is worse routine (which puts off the majority of Americans)? and talk about the issues please.

No, we cannot. A look at two issues in specific should help illustrate why this is so:

also see forum post: It’s July 4th, a time for Americans to gather around and talk about who should really be allowed to vote.

These two issues begin to demonstrate that it is repelican policy to divide the electorate in an effort to maintain their grip on the reins of power and so push legislation that favors their special interests. They are very good at it, but soon you will see, their day in the sun will pass . . . .

[-] 0 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

A broader look is required to see the bigger picture. You cannot see the game while standing on the game board. But dogs are loyal to a fault, so I cannot say I am surprised at your response.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13470) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

A broader look indeed ~


Here is an article I highly recommend, written by a Washington insider:

-- Goodbye to All That: Reflections of a GOP Operative Who Left the Cult Saturday 3 September 2011 by: Mike Lofgren, Truthout | News Analysis http://www.truth-out.org/goodbye-all-reflections-gop-operative-who-left-cult/1314907779


He says almost exactly what I said here: -- Upon the Question of Default of Our National Debt July 6th, 2011 http://zendogblog.net/blog/

These two articles demonstrate the depth of deceit emanating from the repelican camp. Repelicans of today will even sell out our national security interests in the name of expedience. To bring corrective measures to our political system one must come to grips with this small fact:

  • even treason is not beyond repelicans today as they systematically sell out the American public.
[-] 0 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

Your reasoning is sound, if you don't consider that people are sick and tired of being told how bad the other guy is. Meanwhile, the partisan blame game becomes a convenient excuse for nothing at all getting done in this country - I mean, heck, how can you hold the democrats accountable if you can always conveniently blame the other guy.

But, I encourage you to keep it up, you are actually helping to drive more people away from the parties with the other guy sucks more routine....so keep it up by all means.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13470) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Bad politicians really suck, regardless of party affiliation.

This does not change the fact that one party has made lies and corruption a matter of party policy.


The DISCLOSE Act is a measure designed to get accountability and daylight on campaign contributions. Repelicans and Repelicans alone refuse to allow this accountability.


Because they are ashamed. As a party, as a unified block, they are ashamed, and cannot stand before the public while an accounting of where their contributions come from takes place.

[-] 1 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

Lies and corruption are every day matters in both parties. Again, you do not hold the democrats accountable for anything and only present the other guy is worse routine.....drive them away zendog...LOL.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13470) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

You will see - once the repelicans are gone, and they will go - once they are gone it will be much much easier to invest the entire political process in the principles of accountability.

You simply refuse to accept that the President has himself called for an end to the partisan bullshit in Congress -

  • and repelicans have refused.
[-] 0 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

POTUS called for an end to partisanship. I have never heard a politician say that before. LOL. I've heard Boehner say the same thing dozens of time.....wake up, sleepy.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13470) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

.wake up, sleepy.

Indeed, I wish you would . . . .


Only one party is intent on stealing the election by any means necessary. That would be

  • repelicans
[-] 1 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

Does it only matter what the republicans are up to? What are the democrats up to these days?

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13470) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Of course it matters. Once the repelicans are gone you will see dems much more amenable to both the will and the good of the public.

Only one party has chosen to wage economic warfare on 99% of the American public . . .

[-] 1 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

I specifically asked what the democrats are up to these days, not what they will be up to in the future. Future promises are easily broken, so we judge people on past and present performance, and hold them accountable to earlier promises.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34898) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Remove subsidies from fossil fuel. Another effort ongoing in the capital.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13470) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Ah, so you don't know what the dems are up to, eh?

Senator Leahy (D, Vermont) recently attempted to get Senate action on the DISCLOSE Act - here

yet as a block, repelicans engaged the filibuster.

An excerpt from the above link:


July 17, 2012 .

WASHINGTON – Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), a leading cosponsor of legislation to mitigate the impact of the Supreme Court’s 2010 decision in the Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission case, spoke on the Senate floor Tuesday morning about the need to restore the nation’s campaign finance laws. .

In a Senate vote Monday night, Republicans filibustered a procedural motion to debate the Democracy Is Strengthened by Casting Light On Spending in Elections Act (DISCLOSE Act). The legislation would help curtail corporate influence in elections, a growing and harmful trend made possible by the Citizens decision. Last month the Supreme Court again sided with corporations over citizens when it summarily struck down a 100 year-old Montana state law barring corporate contributions to political campaigns.




I hope you find this useful . . .

[-] 1 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

Senator Patrick Leahy accepts large campaign finances from Hollywood and originated SOPA act.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13470) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Ah yes, more smoke and mirrors . . .


The Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) is a United States bill introduced by U.S. Representative Lamar S. Smith (R-TX) to expand the ability of U.S. law enforcement to fight online trafficking in copyrighted intellectual property and counterfeit goods. Provisions include the requesting of court orders to bar advertising networks and payment facilities from conducting business with infringing websites, and search engines from linking to the websites, and court orders requiring Internet service providers to block access to the websites. The law would expand existing criminal laws to include unauthorized streaming of copyrighted content, imposing a maximum penalty of five years in prison.

from Wiki


And the Honorable Senator, in his own words:

The United States Senate has identified a problem directly affecting American jobs, American workers and American consumers. When I first came to Congress, it was the practice of the Senate to debate competing ideas to address such a problem; regrettably, that is not the practice today... I remain committed to addressing this problem; I hope other members of Congress won’t simply stand on hollow promises to find a way to eliminate online theft by foreign rogue websites, and will instead work with me to send a bill to the President’s desk this year...I understand and respect Majority Leader Reid’s decision to seek consent to vitiate cloture on the motion to proceed to the PROTECT IP Act. But the day will come when the Senators who forced this move will look back and realize they made a knee-jerk reaction to a monumental problem. Somewhere in China today, in Russia today, and in many other countries that do not respect American intellectual property, criminals who do nothing but peddle in counterfeit products and stolen American content are smugly watching how the United States Senate decided it was not even worth debating how to stop the overseas criminals from draining our economy.”

from: ProPublica


And so we have revealed another crass attempt to obfuscate the issues and besmirch the reputations of honorable men.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34898) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago


Also ; Move to Amend the campaign to end corpoRAT personhood.

[-] 1 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

Thank you. Skimmed through it - OSTA looks like an excellent reform idea. Oh, I saw Ron Paul endorsed it -- wait, I can't help republicans...just kidding. Will bookmark and go through it later.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34898) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

No problem. I support issues or oppose issues. I will also oppose idiots like mittens and RP.

[-] 1 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

I can support or oppose issues regardless of who introduced them. Idiots....well, I have plenty of opposition to spread around to idiocy - why be selective.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34898) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Not trying to be selective those two just kinda stand out - there is also Boner, CANTor, Bitch McConnel....It just seems some advertise their need to go so effectively... great PR ?

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Its a wave of people finally waking up, which is what OWS was all about.

Fuck these two parties, and fuck anyone who backs them. This isnt about 100 yr old parties, its about us the people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[-] 1 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

Let it all out dude ! I think they heard you all the way over in Washington.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4464) 2 years ago

Thank you Jaded, for this post. Agree.

[-] 1 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

NonPartisanCitizen? How does it sound? Nah, think I'll keep Jaded.