Welcome login | signup
Language en es fr
OccupyForum

Forum Post: "Why isn't our main focus on Washington DC instead of Wall Street?"

Posted 11 years ago on April 3, 2012, 7:44 a.m. EST by struggleforfreedom80 (6584)
This content is user submitted and not an official statement

Because our main focus should be not on the puppet, but on the puppeteer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN2Q6sdh6Bg

16 Comments

16 Comments


Read the Rules
[-] 3 points by francismjenkins (3713) 11 years ago

Well, it started in New York, Wall Street is certainly a major part of the problem (in the context of the 2008 financial crisis, it's clearly the ten gorilla in the room), so Wall Street makes sense .... but this doesn't mean there shouldn't ALSO be a focus on Washington, and of course there is. There's occupy DC, political reform movements that were inspired by OWS (like 99% Spring), etc.

The people should counterattack (metaphorically speaking of course) on all fronts.

[-] 2 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6584) 11 years ago

Agreed.

[-] 2 points by Demian (497) from San Francisco, CA 11 years ago

Why argue with puppets when you can confront the puppet master?

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6584) 11 years ago

"What you should do is exactly the kinds of things that are going to lead to hysteria among privileged and powerful people"

-Noam Chomsky

[-] 1 points by Demian (497) from San Francisco, CA 11 years ago

I think occupying wall street does cause a bit of hysteria among the privileged. I'm not against a double pronged approach by protesting in DC as well but I think it best to recognize that DC gets its marching orders from WS and that is where the real power lay.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8708) 11 years ago

To me the focus on Wall St. has been brilliant, because it has exposed the tyranny at its epicenter to any sentient being. They have shown their hand, and people have been forced to see it for what it is. Denying freedom of assembly and opposing descent with brute force has been their method for the world to see. The myth of American freedom has been exposed as just that, a myth.

It may be that it is now necessary to shift the focus from Wall Street to other places, I do agree with that, because the brutality has been pretty effective in keeeping people away from protest in NYC.

But the effect has been felt.

[-] 2 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6584) 11 years ago

The main focus should be not just on Wall Street of course, but on the financial elite in general, and the huge private tyrannies and command economies - the corporations; they're the ones who have the main control in society. To me "Wall Street" in "Occupy Wall Street" just symbolizes the financial elite in general, and I believe the original occupiers in NY share this view.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8708) 11 years ago

Yes, I agree with you, but I think the original focus on Wall Street galvanized a world movement. I'm not saying we should in any way doggedly stick to one tactic - far from it. I just want to give credit where credit is due. The initial focus on Wall Street was, I think, brilliant.

[-] -2 points by Dell (-168) 11 years ago

"Denying freedom of assembly" not the same as camping out - get real.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8708) 11 years ago

You think the founders of this country meant, "Freedom of Assembly from four to six on Sundays?" What is the point of Freedom of Assembly, if it is time limited. The whole point of of assembly without harassment is just exactly so that people will have a rallying point to express their grievances.

If you bust up that rallying point periodically with clubs and pepper spray that puts a certain damper on the whole point of Freedom of Assembly, don't you think. In a "private park," their might be a point here, maybe, although I don't understand the reason for a "private park" at all, but in Liberty square their is no doubt at all that the use of police state terror is completely unconstitutional.

[-] 2 points by Mowat (164) 11 years ago

OWS is facing three fronts:

  • The FED and its Wall Street stooges - their main job is to control the money supply of the nation,
  • Washington DC where puppets are working for the elite to keep them always in control and on-top,
  • Hollywood and the brain-washing mechanism designed to steer people into submission to the elite.

Breaking the slavery chains is not an easy task.

OWS must find other ways to dismantle the elite's dominion. Sit-ins are not the only way to go!

[-] 2 points by brochomsky (208) from Brooklyn, NY 11 years ago

I'm not familiar with the movement on the third front, which I actually believe to be the most important front. I was reading somewhere about a lot of the bitterness coming from 3rd world countries toward the U.S. being because they see our Hollywood movies and think everything is great here (while we invade and destroy the third world countries); when, in fact, parts of the United States are so destitute as to look like 3rd world countries.

Hollywood (and television) is not only the opium of the masses, but it also makes people forget that some of us Americans are really struggling.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8708) 11 years ago

I agree absolutely with that. We must use every mechanism we can find to shift the power balance.

[-] 2 points by Mowat (164) 11 years ago

I wish all people would realize this reality and act in a (non-violent, wise, and calculated) way that would undo the elite's agenda.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8708) 11 years ago

Yes, well perhaps they are, at least to the best degree they are now capable. Don't wait to hear about it on the news:)

[-] 1 points by RedJazz43 (2757) 11 years ago

Maybe for the liberals following this web site, but not to the OWS activists who are in the streets and who are the back bone of this movement. They are revolutionaries and they know who the real enemy is. The puppeter can always make new puppets.