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Forum Post: Why does this site use the traditional socialist/marxist fist logo?

Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 3, 2011, 7:07 p.m. EST by antisocialist (30) from Rochester, NY
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[-] 2 points by revg33k (429) from Woodstock, IL 12 years ago

Read up on the symbolism.

The raised fist (also known as the clenched fist) is a universal symbol of solidarity and support. It is also used as a salute to express, unity, strength, defiance, or resistance


[-] 1 points by GammaPoint (400) from Oakland, CA 12 years ago


This is the correct answer.

[-] 1 points by AstraStarr (71) from New Paltz, NY 12 years ago

its just a symbol- nazis used an Indian symbol and they werent hindu......

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

sorry, i do know exactly what feudalism is. You trying to talk about its main features and then say that other features of feudalism are not the feudalism is silly. The dominant or single most relevant point is land ownership, certainly, but there are other features of feudalism, one of which is most certainly taxes, and to the point, by definition taxation as such begins in feudal systems. It is remarkably futile and silly to argue with me. It would be wiser to stop and take your opportunity to chat with the DJIN. capitalism is ALSO a system which has NEVER existed.

the core issues; 1. Corporate Personhood. 2. Caste Warfare; they started it. 3. Its legal to lie to the USA public. 4. They are OUR airwaves. They should be used for WETHEPEOPLE not leased by the government to corporations. Put Local colleges in charge of all the media. Arrest and seize all mass media devices and then give those devices straight out to the local colleges, including the land they sit on. We need education public media; not legalized lying and propaganda wars against the people. 5. Education reform. Everyones being kept stupid and ignorant on purpose in school and repugnicons want to argue about how to pay or punish teachers. We need child centered education reform, not a con scam to privatize education and thus score all our children for corporate zombotification. 6. Free market system. Not slave market system. Not caste market system. Not Caste warfare market system. Not rigged Casino. Not making something off of nothing and making bubbles to grease a gravy train either. Free market system. We must have one of those. Its time to have one of those. We have NEVER YET had one of those. 7. Realistic regulation of the government to regulate and control corporations so that what they do is fair and just and ethical and under control instead of a parade of unleashed godzillas turning the masses into to toe jam. 8. Real and direct representation, including no more lobbying, and including an evolutionary use of the internet with organized forums and wikis replacing the old style of congressional/ mayoral office.

"Right, but that still doesn't preclude taxation, which is in fact necessary to regulate the value of money"

nope. taxation period of any kind is merely and only a means to the end of creating a caste system. And even deeper, taxation dynamically entropizes a system, so its not only not necessary to regulate money, its the single largest entropic contributor to the system. The ONLY reason why we pay taxes is thats the feudal system; the idea that we pay anything remotely approaching the same thing or fair to what the rich pay is preposterous. The whole point of taxes is to distribute wealth from the poor to the rich. period.

gawdoftruth (Santa Barbara, CA) 1 points 0 seconds ago

"the end goal product should be that every small community takes care of its own. Any federal system is a problem definition of something requiring more serious attention to solve. long term social programs managed by nation sized meta entities is a disaster not only socially and civilly but to the people who get third rate borg social services. A well functioning system does not need a welfare system, it only has a highly evolved net which catches people and only involves less than one percent of the population at any given time, not punishing but rehabing and educating folks. Until such time as that end goal is achieved, no hand outs is a paradox... you have to spend time and thus money in order to fix the problems till their fixed past needing time or money."

"Why aren't u in office???"

aspergers syndrome. you want to run,? i can ghost write your platform? :)

"Understood we need more ideas then politicians anyway. The fixes are so simple but so difficult to get implemented."

↧ gawdoftruth (Santa Barbara, CA) 1 points 0 seconds ago

i'm running for chief of staff. bit early to announce yet since i have no clue whos running on my ticket for president?

http://forums.keller2012.com/index.php i created this forum org structure. but scott keller turned out to be an idiot.

your still missing the point. your playing with math. your right. its something more like the 99.99 percent. There are 4000 or 100,000 persons depending on wether we are talking the inner or outer circle of oligarchs keeping the rest of us trapped in a "capitalism" Hotel California con scam. While you can climb upward from the bottom there are increasingly more powerful glass cielings. And on fact one of the effects of the recent bush era caste war changes is that the people who imagined themselves to be in the inside are amongst those that are losing it all. The real question is not how YOU define it. The real question is; as a system org structure, how does it operate? Thats 100 thousand peeps keeping 3 million peeps as cattle.

[-] 1 points by ComoKate (13) 12 years ago

Why does "antisocialist" have "antisocial" as the main part of their name? Antisocial personality disorder affects 1-3% of the population; they have no guilt nor conscience and will do anything, to anyone, in order to get what they want, regardless of the suffering they cause others. Just like CORPORATE TROLLS.

[-] 0 points by Student (94) 12 years ago

Because we are mostly an anti-capitalist movement.....

[-] 4 points by revg33k (429) from Woodstock, IL 12 years ago

no we are not, we are anti-greed, anti-abuse of power, it is the abuse of capitalism that has got us where we are today not capitalism its self.

blaming capitalism for our current economic situation is like blaming the gun for the murder, capitalism did not do this on its own the people behind its trigger did.

[-] 5 points by LeftCon (16) from Louisburg, NC 12 years ago

True that. Not everyone wants to dissolve our capitalist economy, just reign in the ties between corporate giants and our government. Drop lobbying and major campaign financing, and you lose politicians' drive to create policies that favor the uber rich.

[-] 1 points by emanonman (36) from Lahaina, HI 12 years ago

You got it right LC! It's not that much we're asking for...Big ups!

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

i feel the corporation control or lives more than the government they determine when we work and for how much

[-] 1 points by antisocialist (30) from Rochester, NY 12 years ago

you mean socialist

[-] -1 points by Joe (11) 12 years ago

Because it's a socialist site.