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Forum Post: Why do we need representative government?

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 24, 2011, 1:34 a.m. EST by yarichin (269)
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I grew up in Michigan lots of people lost their jobs to robots. We are representing ourselves, right now, right here. The internet has made the idea of a republic outdated. We have the ability to create a direct democracy. Why are we paying for around 500 people to make laws for a nation of 300,000,000? When our country began it was hard to travel or send mail. There was no telecommunication. We needed representatives then. What about now?

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[-] 2 points by Peretyatkov (241) from город Пенза, Пензенская область 12 years ago

Direct democracy can not be absolute. Even, in case of legislative approval Nardialog, there are issues which require a work government and parliament.

[-] 1 points by monjon22 (508) 12 years ago

Direct democracy does not seem to be working here in OWS. The General Assembly method of voting requires actual physical presence at a GA meeting. In NYC that means that one must be physicially present in downtowm Manhattan four nights a week at 7 pm. Talk about a burden. If you can't make it, your voice is not heard.

[-] 1 points by monjon22 (508) 12 years ago

The OWS movement has a voting system called the General Assembly (GA). This system is direct democracy; however it only considers the votes of those phyisically present in downtown Manhattan, NY. Votes can be held up to 4 times a week at 7 pm.

If the location, frequency and hour are not conducive to you, your vote does not count. You have no voice in OWS.

How frequently have you voted at GA meetings in downtown Manhattan?

[-] 1 points by jasonf1974 (9) 12 years ago

I'll check back tomorrow. maybe if I give you guys 24 hours you can put your heads together and come up with something that resembles an intelligent answer.

[-] 1 points by jasonf1974 (9) 12 years ago

my question was...and still is since no one here has made any attempt to answer it. What do you expect to gain by ridiculing and disrespecting the president? Do you want another republican in the white house? All I see here is people trying to sound intelligent by telling me to surf on a short board or yarichins idiotic response. I asked a question yarichin why cant you answer it? because you have no intelligent answer. just more rambling. you guys are pathetic.

[-] 1 points by jasonf1974 (9) 12 years ago

lol time for bed. you people obviously are totally ignorant. good luck with your "movement" I bet I'll be more successful with my bowel movement.

[-] 1 points by jasonf1974 (9) 12 years ago

I'll check back later. its obvious no one here has any intelligent response to my questions. take your time people. ask your parents for help if you need to since most of you still live with them.

[-] 1 points by jasonf1974 (9) 12 years ago

whats the matter yarichin? isn't there a slogan that fits as an answer to my questions? sorry did I make you think too much?

[-] 1 points by jasonf1974 (9) 12 years ago

I'm waiting... can anyone...I say ANYONE of you give me intelligent answers to my questions?

[-] 1 points by yarichin (269) 12 years ago

Okay, you have only asked one question. The question you asked was: I'm waiting... can anyone...I say ANYONE of you give me intelligent answers to my questions? There is no context genius. So, no, and even if I had an answer to every question you ever asked in your life, it would be based on my experience and knowledge. It may be correct based on my knowledge but still be the wrong answer. Any person with any brains accepts that they may have come to the wrong conclusion and is willing to reexamine their thought process for errors. You on the other hand are right even when you have no position to attack or defend. Congratulations. You are officially the smartest person on earth

[-] 1 points by jasonf1974 (9) 12 years ago

wake up and smell the coffee. we are either going to have a democrat or a republican in the white house next year. who do you want? no matter what you think your movement is accomplishing you can't change that fact. please don't try to bring a great president down with your so called "movement"

[-] 1 points by jasonf1974 (9) 12 years ago

why don't you answer my question directly and stop speaking in platitudes yarichin?

[-] 1 points by jasonf1974 (9) 12 years ago

Speaking as someone who supported your movement when you first began to protest, can you please answer me a question? What do you expect to accomplish by heckling the president? Hasn't Barack Obama done anything for the middle and lower classes? I follow politics closely and have seen our president accomplish quite a bit considering the political climate. What is it that you expect to gain from ridiculing and disrespecting him? Do you want another republican in the White House? Please inform me as to why I shouldn't hate all of you for what you are trying to do to Obama who i voted for and will vote for again? Please enlighten me as to why you are not all ignorant scum bags?

[-] 1 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 12 years ago

Sorry, we can take no responsibility for your enlightenment. Nor can we educate you to the folly of hating all ignorant scum bags. We can suggest . . . 'surfing waves with short board' . . . makes fall more likely.

[-] 1 points by yarichin (269) 12 years ago

What is the difference between a democrat and a republican if they are both owned by the same bank?

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 12 years ago

We need more local and state power. That's the key to a modern democracy.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 12 years ago

A Republic was chosen in America because our founding fathers figured citizens are far too impetuous for a straight democrtatic vote.

[-] 1 points by yarichin (269) 12 years ago

So, we are too dumb to know what is good for us?

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 12 years ago

You're asking the wrong person. Besides, I used the word impetuous, not dumb. There is a difference. Lots of people, both wise and thick, have been guilty of being impetuous. Anyways, I have a little cause I would like you to look at. Please leave a comment, good or bad. I don't care.

http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/make-a-stand-join-the-clan/

[-] 1 points by yarichin (269) 12 years ago

I will look.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 12 years ago

Thank you very much. The KTC would love to have someone of your intelligence as a member.