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Forum Post: Why do some GOP party politicians envision a China-like America?

Posted 2 years ago on Feb. 5, 2012, 1 p.m. EST by ciaoant1 (16)
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A few weeks ago, Huffington Post published a very interesting article titled "Emerging GOP View: Communist China Is Model for American Capitalism". The article discusses a growing trend amongst US capitalists, especially those who favour the Republican party, to view China as an example that the USA needs to follow. [...] So, why does China attracts investments? And why does the GOP want to emulate the Chinese model?

It's simple: It's not just the low wages or the long working hours. It's not even the fact that the new generation of Chinese workers is more skilled and educated than the previous ones.

It's also because the workers have no rights, not really. They pretty much do whatever the capitalists order them to do in order to increase productivity and their profits. And if they have the "audacity" to make some demands, then they are fired or the state sends in the police or the army and crack down on protesters. There is no "free speech", and the list goes on and on.

So, if humanity is to keep forcing the workers to compete against each other, for the sake of a few capitalists, then this is what happens: If you are a worker, you'll have to accept a very low wage, working long hours, etc., or you'll have to face massive unemployment, as the capitalists can invest their capital in other places (wherever the workers DO accept living in poverty).

YES, there are some notable exceptions to this - for example Germany is doing pretty well, as it produces better quality products to make up for the relatively "high" German wages. But the general trend is clear: China is the new row model for the capitalists, and the workers have an important choice to make - They can either accept living like "animals", or they can overthrow the capitalists, who make us compete against each other, for their benefit and their benefit alone. [...] http://whataboutmarx.blogspot.com/2012/02/lot-of-gop-party-politicians-envision.html

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[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (19202) 2 years ago

China has only had a capitalist economy since 1976 so it is still in it's early stages with much to work out.

Reactionary capitalists here in the U.S., and especially libertarians, dream of a return to the early days of ours and Europe's capitalism. You know, the Industrial Revolution when unregulated capitalism allowed things to run amok and the rich got richer while the poor got poorer.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Exactly why the GOP is pushing so much anti-union propaganda even though private sector unionism has already all but vanished, accounting for a measly 6.9 percent of the workforce. People need to look at unions like the NFL. The NFL is making a fuck ton of money. And so are the players.

[-] 2 points by ancientmariner (275) 2 years ago

Republicans side with devil if it makes them money.

[-] 2 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

Actually, China is trying to move away from the low wage model, attempting to emulate countries like Germany, and what the US once was.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6287) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

Is it just the Chinese workers who are pushing for a higher wage or is it also Chinese higher up the 'ladder,' like management or people in the government? This is a sincere question. It would be interesting to know whether Chinese business people and government officials have more foresight than our leaders had when the US began its off-shoring and outsourcing craze. Perhaps they'll avoid the mistake we're only now beginning to grapple with; what happens to the economy when the consumer can't afford to consume.

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

I read this in "Xinhua" the newspaper of the Chinese government, here's the online version, in English:

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/china/index.htm

I believe it was a person from the Chinese government who said this, and that many government people there believe this.

I recommend reading Xinhua, as its a good counter balance to the propaganda we have in our own press.

[-] 1 points by ciaoant1 (16) 2 years ago

Yes, but this shift will not be easy, and it's won't happen overnight. China will first have to go through i crisis of its own: http://whataboutmarx.blogspot.com/2012/01/on-china-part-2-is-china-bubble-what.html

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

True, that was an interesting site. I believe though that there are factions, if not the top players, in the Chinese government that want to make this happen.

[-] 1 points by plutocracyofamerica (10) from Killingly, CT 2 years ago

To understand the gravitation corporations in America have with communist China you have to understand how communism and fascism are alike and how they are different. Communists and fascists have historically shared a hatred of each other. Recently they discovered that by working together they can get something they both want. Corporations get access to slave labor as communist countries have NO problem arresting the free hand of the market and forcing its people to work for slave wages. The communists get paid a tribute, that easily trumps any taxes these coorporation would have to pay in taxes here in the west. With this tribute the communists can build a powerful military and remain economically sound. In America, this economic drain is killing the US on trade and the debt and the corporations will use this economic chaos to kill programs that benefit anyone but the wealthy and corporations...social security etc... When they are done building Chinas military, they come here and charge us to build a military to defend us from the one they just built in China. I would not look for a lot of jobs to return to America, this is way we are creating new trade agreements in South America. After all it is not only communists nations that will arrest the free hand of the market to maintain high levels of poverty, 3rd world govts are just as inclined.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

Soylent Green Corporation

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

one more reason to get rid of alll republicans!

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

There was never a reason to keep them........................:)

[-] -1 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 2 years ago

And yet a democrat administration keeps making trade agreements with china. Why?