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I have been active here since the very beginning, and since the very beginning I have been trying to make some core points. These points clearly have not been digested or fully understood by the mob, and so I'm going to try to make a further attempt here again.

Merely protesting in the streets will not bring change. In fact merely protesting in the streets is in fact a means to the end of avoiding the real work of a revolution, which consists of the evolutionary solutions, answers, problem solving process, and new political alignment we create.
This forum is absolutely disorganized. It won't be read by most people and it won't and can't function as a core organizational system.
Back at the very start of this, I petitioned the admin to add multiple sub forums and a wiki. Multiple sub forums were promised but have never arrived. I think that this tells us that the intention actually of this forum is message control and containment. The entire purpose really of this forum has always been to keep us spinning in disorganization. We are hanging out on a forum that expressly exists to actually keep us confused and disorganized.
The real work of a revolution isn't going to happen on forums, it needs to happen in a much more organized fashion using collaborative software.
The assorted other details about how to collaborate, how to work open source direct democracy, how to focus in on science instead of isms, how to become hyper rational about this, are details which are essential and crucial, without which we can predict the movement to fail.
Technically speaking we are not 99 percent, we are one tenth of one percent attempting to represent the 99 percent. Our core mission must be to communicate to and with the 99 percent, and get them to join us. This forum will not accomplish that and neither will any of the other main websites.
You can follow other people out to other wikis and other websites, where they will try to get you to get involved with what they want and their program, but frankly speaking, there is no other website and no other operation out there which understands the complexities involved with meaningful organization. In short, everyones being led to get involved here there and everywhere else, scattering the movement in directions which ultimately do not gain us critical mass, criticial momentum, or critical systemic lucidity.
I have managed to get a wiki put up and have already put on that wiki evolutionary details which make it more organized than anything else. I can't do this alone. There are 10 or so wikis now out there, most of which were created in response to my pleas for a wiki, and several of which are in domains owned and operated by some corporation, (wikia, etc) And which we can thus assume will simply be closed, shut down, or deleted if they become useful to the movement.
Probably at least half of the invites you have to go participate at some other site are people who are scamming everyone to waste time and energy, distort the movement, co opt it, and etc. When you walk off into a closet ask yourself how you know that the closet isn't created by some fed, or by some republican, or by some democrat, in order to sway things in their direction.
The only meaningful strategic option we have for real change in this country is to create a new third party, and take every political office in this country.
Once that is done, we can have an article 5 convention. If we have an article 5 convention before getting rid of the oligachs, that just opens the genie from the bottle for them to abuse that process with their corruption and evil.
As of last night and this morning, you can't even answer responses on this site without geting a 403 error, logging in requries you to back click after a 403 error, and the chat simply doesn't load.

For these reasons, I beg of you to please immediately join me on the wiki. We need to have all of these details and all of these ideas put together in an organized fashion, rather than posted in a long scrawl which will never be read.

http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/THE_99%25_POLITICAL_PARTY

http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/Main_Page

http://www.followthemoney.org/?gclid=CMbY87bB-qsCFUPt7Qod9HE8mQ

http://maplight.org/us-congress/guide/data/money?9gtype=search&9gkw=list%20of%20campaign%20donations&9gad=6213192521.1&9gag=1786513361&gclid=CP61oYbB-qsCFQFZ7AodcTF0jw

http://www.opensecrets.org/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/our-new-wiki/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/non-violence-evolution-by-paradigm-shift/

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[-] 1 points by Restorefreedomtoall1776 (272) from Bayonne, NJ 13 years ago

It seems to be a common problem. If u step out of line, whatever that is, u get the boot. If u don't have Freedom of Speech, u have nothing. This may be a way to identify those whom the Powers That Be want to be rid of. I'm so old now that it doesn't really matter for me, but I find it tragic for the young people who want a better future, or any future at all for that matter.

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[-] 1 points by AtomicZ (149) 13 years ago

TROLLS suck - in that I agree - this is something very different - not sure / can't say / won't speculate / don't want to agitate ... Gandhi people Gandhi ... peace AtomicZ...

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[-] 1 points by citizenbornabroad (26) 13 years ago

People can just try for themselves. I did. I'm convinced this site is only some kind of diversion or tool to make the 99% look bad. Most of what is here is anti99%

Look at all the posts calling for violence, antisemitism etc. All things which are clearly against the principles of the movement

This site is not legit. Pass the word on blogs twitter, youtube and everywhere you can

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[-] 1 points by protoAnon (4) 13 years ago

Just start spreading the word that this site is a scam trap and a censored mind game. Look at the stuff they allow to stay Versus what they censor. It's a PsyOp. Nothing more.

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[-] 1 points by Forbiden (5) 13 years ago

Now Iam sure that what are you saying is totally correct.

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