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Forum Post: Where is the outrage?

Posted 10 years ago on Dec. 1, 2011, 11:15 a.m. EST by usernameah (36)
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On the Levin-McCain bill? Buried in the annual defense appropriations bill is a provision that would give the President the power to use the military to intern anyone -- including American citizens -- indefinitely, and hold them without charges or trial, anywhere in the world, including on American soil.

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[-] 3 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 10 years ago

It must be in the same place it was when the Patriot Act passed. I read the bill and, unfortunately, it is worded in such a way that it can be claimed that American citizens are protected unless they're supporting or aiding our enemies. With the abuse that has already occurred under the Patriot Act, this new bill makes it easier to stop anyone and claim they are "suspected" of something. I hear Obama will veto it. I do hope so. Where is the outrage about the efforts in 40 states to restrict people's ability to vote?

[-] 1 points by usernameah (36) 10 years ago

Where is the outrage about the efforts in 40 states to restrict people's ability to vote?

Can you provide more info (links?) on this? Thanks.

[-] 2 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 10 years ago

http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2011/09/map-of-voter-suppression-legislation.html

picked up and reported by MSNBC this morning; MSNBC was also the only news network I saw anything about the Levin-McCain bill, and the reference was all too brief.

[-] 0 points by jaimes (86) 10 years ago

A photo ID lessens fraud. It does not restict you from voting, A photo ID can be gotten for free. In order to get or change cable equipment I have to show a photo ID.

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 10 years ago

of course it does, but to a liberal, asking someone to get a photo id is a hate crime against poor minorities. ask a liberal why this is so, and watch the swerving, ducking and dodging begin. they really can't come out and say, "because we think they are lazy and stupid and don't give a shit," so they just get louder and angrier and cry racism. it is pathetic how much liberals look down on poor minorities. they really do hate them more than the phantom racists they believe exist everywhere do. they just use them for votes by pretending to care.

[-] 0 points by jaimes (86) 10 years ago

"pretending to care" ,..........that's what they do.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

usern@meah : Damn Good Post and Damn Good Question !!! For some more information, please see the following :

a) "McCain says American Citizens Can Be Sent to Guantanamo" : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29857.htm ,

b) "Senate Votes to Allow Indefinite Detention of Americans" : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29869.htm &

c) "Obama Lawyers: Citizens Targeted (as) If At War With US" : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29870.htm .

fiat lux ...

[-] 2 points by 99thpercentile (94) 10 years ago

This bill is terrible. I'm outraged. Unfortunately it will probably pass because Americans are so afraid of their shadows that they will give all of their rights away for the promise that they will be a little safer. Governments have killed far more people than terrorists throughout history. That's something we should all think about.

[-] 1 points by usernameah (36) 10 years ago

Hope Obama vetoes it.

[-] 2 points by 99thpercentile (94) 10 years ago

He may but that's no consolation. He vetoed a similar bill before and his reason for doing so what not that it was unconstitutional but that he didn't need congress's permission to do such things. There are already many executive orders on the books that give him similar "authority".

[-] 1 points by usernameah (36) 10 years ago

Gets more astounding day by day.

[-] 2 points by Windsofchange (1044) 10 years ago

Please see my post it has been up for quite some time right now. I am outraged that this past. I tried my best to make everyone aware of this awful bill and call their Senators. It passed in Senate anyway.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/code-red-if-these-two-horrible-bills-pass-in-congr/

[-] 1 points by usernameah (36) 10 years ago

Hey, thanks for the link and for bringing this to our attention.

[-] 2 points by Windsofchange (1044) 10 years ago

Please check my post. I will be listing more bills in the Senate and House that are a threat to our freedoms. It is getting scary out there.

OWS needs to spend more time occupying Capitol HIll right now.

[-] 1 points by usernameah (36) 10 years ago

Thanks, watching the clip now.

[-] 1 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 10 years ago

stop panicking from listing to blogs. Read the dang bill.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.1867:

But suspension of habeas corpus is already written into the constitution so nothing new really

Article 1 Section 9 The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.