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Forum Post: When rich people see Republicans win, they smile.

Posted 5 years ago on March 13, 2015, 8:23 a.m. EST by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ
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It doesn't matter how many people talk about wealth inequality, as long as Republicans are winning their money and power are safe. They know Americans are too upset with "the system" to use it to challenge their power, so they are safe in their gated communities. Since 2011 wealth inequality has accelerated,

OWS, or the remnants of it, will soon have a choice to engage and expose the GOP for what they are, and thereby change the nation, or continue to wallow in their own defeat and moan about the system and how somebody should do something to change it.



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[-] 8 points by elf3 (4187) 5 years ago

Obama is workin on passing the trans pacific trade partnership...meaning more outsourced slave labor...how does this benefit you? How did it benefit you when Clinton smiled as he signed the GOP driven Nafta? Those of us living through these new trade deals know they benefit the uber rich and wallstreet...not third world workers, not usa citizens. Our lives are being traded for wall street wealth. No party is working on behalf of main street...publicly they pretend to while privately they do the bidding of banksters and traders. They are allowed to hold stocks also even as they sign bills that benefit themselves. Ultimate inside trading is to buy stock and with a pen ..and a bill ...make it go up. This is why politicians wealth increases as they "serve the people"...they all serve themselves. Perhaps they get in there and realize it is futile to swim against the tide ...so they create their own life rafts and wave to us and SMILE as we drown.

[+] -6 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

So this is your reason for supporting Republicans?

[-] 7 points by elf3 (4187) 5 years ago

You're just being antagonistic...I said I support neither . Politicians can't be trusted when corporate bribery is legal: none of them. Some had my trust and lost it when actions didn't meet words. When you only have a choice between coke and pepsi...you have to choose I guess if you still believe in this puppet show . But we vote and then they go to work for corporations. What can we do to ensure that doesn't happen? We have to go back, revoke monopolies and corpirate charters, take away corp personhood, get rid of corp lobbying. You can't just blindly trust people to do good even when they prove they won't. You have to make laws to make them do good as well as enforce them. Without that letting lobbyists at Congress is watching kids in a candy store...?

[-] 2 points by elf3 (4187) 5 years ago

Retail unionization now!!!

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

So it is your position that without your support they will just stop writing laws and such?

In 2000 people didn't find a difference between Al Gore and W Bush and we got the Iraq War and the world melting, are you really so stupid to think you have no responsibility to do what you can do to make things better? are you so stupid you really can't find a difference? I suspect you are like so many on here who only can find time to attack the Dems you are a political hack hoping to co-opt OWS to kickstart your ego feeding political party of some sort.

[-] 2 points by elf3 (4187) 5 years ago

I think anyone posting here feels a great drive and responsibility to fix this broken system...can't fix problems if you continue to buy in and endorse them...look into the mirror Alice. Politicians are on the same side as Monopolies...and the people suffering from their policies are over here with you. Just because some hide their corruption better than others, doesn't mean they are all peaches and cream.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

Life is not a metaphor, it is real, the GOP do real things that affect real people. If you truly want to bring down the current system, consider this the GOP and Dems do depend on each other, i don't deny that, it is a ladder of power, but if you take down one leg of a ladder the whole thing falls. I know there are those here that would make that leg the Dems and thereby make conditions so bad for so many that a violent revolution would occur, but I do not endorse that position, I believe that if the truth is told about the GOP, that at their core they are about making the rich richer and money more powerful, then they will be reduced to the point that the expanded Dems will break up and that is how the big change comes, if the GOP are allowed to win over and over they will build enough prisons to keep the 1% in power for generations.

[-] 6 points by Rollo (60) 5 years ago

All political parties must be abolished.

The very construct of a political party misdirects loyalty. It thwarts the principal dynamic of a representitive democracy. The political party format gives structure to 'The System' that becomes impossible for us to change. It makes the system a monolithic barrier to change. We can not expect to find leaders in a system that is based on followers.

We must terminate our archaic 'Party System'. We must not allow those we appoint to represent and lead us, be rubber stamps for an easily corruptible political party. We must not allow our elected representitives to hide in the shadows of party obfuscation and unaccountability. Let each "Leader" answer for themselves. Let them answer for their own actions and convictions.

[+] -4 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

So until that happens you don't care if Republicans win?

[-] 4 points by Rollo (60) 5 years ago

If the republicans win, the 99% lose.

If the democrats win, the 99% lose.

One is bad, the other is worse. I have become indifferent to whether bad or worse wins.

Why should I vote for a political party that has proven time and time again that it will not produce positive results?

Is your sole strategy to vote for bad to defeat worse?

Your stategy has been used for a very, very long time, and has resulted in enormous failure. Are you asking for us to still drink from your poisoned well?

Is it wise to follow a strategy that we know will result in failure?

[-] 5 points by turbocharger (1756) 5 years ago

Openly deciding to screw ourselves is what this country is about. Our government is completely out of control in every aspect imaginable, and its entire structure is completely outdated and not efficient in a country of 300 million people.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago

people can create their share of money through electronically signed statements

that is open to public review

[-] -2 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

I know what you mean like when we don't even show up to vote and let the GOP screw us Royal like but it is really us screwing ourselves by not bothering to show up at the polls, and we screw ourselves early by not being in the primaries then we bitch about the nominee.

[-] 2 points by turbocharger (1756) 5 years ago

The DNC/RNC could care less about your primary votes, look at the losers they parade out there.

[-] -3 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

so actually working to get better candidates is just not worth your time?

you prefer to just bitch about who is chosen? of course you do, bitching is all you are good for, doing something would be so hard

[-] 4 points by turbocharger (1756) 5 years ago

They don't care what you or I propose. Why would I try to influence someone who openly states they hate me?

[-] -3 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

Hating you is like hating the 1%.

[-] 3 points by turbocharger (1756) 5 years ago

Ive watched your videos. You look like a real treat yourself ;)

[-] 4 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 5 years ago

Hey, those videos have actually garnered him a bit of sympathy! Remember Peter Kropotkin (who finally got disgusted with the 'team' and left)? At one point he was going to lay into frf pretty hard, but after watching that first YT link 'facts' posted here, he changed his mind. He PMed me and basically said "there's nothing I can do to that poor sap that life hasn't already done."

I agreed. ;-)

[-] 3 points by turbocharger (1756) 5 years ago

haha that's brutal.

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 5 years ago

Hahaha, that's truth! ;-)

Been missing you, Griff, lol. Where ya been? I figured you'd be one of the first to comment on my recent post, but I know you've been busy since you're one of the few that's the real deal.

Peace, my man.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

do you guys need a room....

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago

doing stuff is a rhythm

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

the problem with doing stuff, is everybody wants to be King, hardly anyone just willing to do their part, win or lose, ego is involved no doubt, I was once boss, I know how attractive that is

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

It is easy to become indifferent to the plight of millions of Americans and the Earth itself, when you are a political hack whose sole strategy is to gut a major party so you can build your own.

Your strategy gave us W Bush and has for decades provided a relief value that allows the 1% to remain in power.

The third party path to GOP wins has been around since at least 1980 I know I was stupid enough to vote for Anderson which led to Reagan.