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Forum Post: Whatever Is...Does Not Imply That It Should Be

Posted 2 years ago on Dec. 26, 2011, 1:53 p.m. EST by infonomics (393)
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Nicholas

I posted this Photoshop creation of mine for two reasons:

  1. To recognize and celebrate an important historical moment of an OWS affiliate, the Russians, as they continue their struggle for a better life in the face of corruption and oppression.

  2. To inspire OWS with a philosophical understanding that the status quo sometimes ends as portrayed by the photo above. The photo above was captured from the movie Nicholas and Alexandra, which was a screen version of the book by the same title. The importance of this particular photo is that it captures the very moment when Nicholas II first learns of the eventual demise of his reign; that is, he learns that his palace has been commandeered by the revolutionaries. Nicholas attempts dispatch a message that his generals should quell the uprising when he learns from the staff officer in the photo that many of his generals have defected to the revolutionaries. The expression on Nicholas's face is one of utterly disbelief. Thus, Czar Nicholas is learning for the first time that the Romanov's imperial rule over Russia, reigning from 1613 until 1917, is coming to an end, albeit he does not fully accept this fate just yet.

It can happen here, too...again. So, don't just read history, make it!

The first comment on this post makes a most salient point, so I thought I would recognize here:

We all know that the following rule was as corrupt if not more and destroyed millions of lives. Not saying that imperial rule had desired results. Just saying that change for the sake of change is of little value. Clear vision of what you want the change to be is of utmost importance. So, we overthrow the existing condition. Replace the ensuing vacuum with what? IF, it has no value, we are destine to be in a possible worse condition than we are now.

I followed with an acknowledgement by citing our founding fathers (excerpt from the Declaration of Independence):

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But...

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty (a), to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

(a) In my opinion, within the system, which, I maintain can be achieve by proposing modifications to the Constitution; for example, the implementation of a plural executive to supplant the current unitary one.

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[-] 1 points by wellhungjury (296) 2 years ago

We all know that the following rule was as corrupt if not more and destroyed millions of lives. Not saying that imperial rule had desired results. Just saying that change for the sake of change is of little value. Clear vision of what you want the change to be is of utmost importance.

So, we overthrow the existing condition. Replace the ensuing vacuum with what? IF, it has no value, we are destine to be in a possible worse condition than we are now.

[-] 2 points by infonomics (393) 2 years ago

Indeed and our founding fathers thought the same:

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But...

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

[-] 1 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 2 years ago

For me the way to throw off is prescribed in the 1st Amendment. The Declaration is doing it by the book, using the tools the Founding Fathers wisely provided. But people need to pick the tool up if they really want to fix anything.

I'm a farmer. I know a good machine from a crappy one (read Egypt). But a good machine in the hands of a lousy operator leads to damaged equipment and loss of crop leading to debts and hunger. We're coming out with better machines all the time but keeping the machine I have running productively means I can acquire a state-of-the-art machine sooner. So let's fix the machine we have (the ballot box is your tool box) while we discuss the new machine.

BTW I never heard back from your last photo. Was it Paul Revere?

http://www.the99declaration.org/

[-] 1 points by infonomics (393) 2 years ago

Nice analogy that could only come from the wisdom of a farmer.

The photo comes from the digital Library of Congress and the man in the photo is a migrant worker on his way to California, presumably from the dust bowl area, although the LOC does not mention so. If you go back to the original posting here http://occupywallst.org/forum/salute-to-ows/ you can see the original photo that I have added. I love photos of this era and have a few more here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/24595374@N05/sets/72157628502953175/. All are clean-ups with added embellishments from the digital LOC.

I cannot close without asking what it is like to be a farmer in 21st century. I have a great appreciation of your profession which spawns from grandfather, who owned and operated a mule-driven grist mill in 1950's.

[-] 1 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 2 years ago

http://occupywallst.org/forum/willie-nelson-occupy-the-food-system/

I'm kinda braindead tonight but this post from a few days ago sums it up pretty well. I'm planning to go back to planting trees and pasturing livestock, and forward into vertical farming (google Omega Gardens). Every family should have these in their homes. The chem-based fossil fuel dependent ag revolution has run it's course and corporate control of all the farmland is not desirable to say the least. I also came across this very interesting TED talk here a few days ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLjgBLwH3Wc