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Forum Post: What you are witnessing now are a few hundred thousand, educated college kids who see there is a problem and are engaging you in debate…

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 29, 2011, 4:28 p.m. EST by tweed (9)
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These college kids for the most part are well to do, did not grow up in the recession and will not risk anything more than a few cops batons or pepper spray. What you fail to see are the MILLIONS of poor and homeless kids that are growing up in this recession and suffering the full brunt of it's impact. When they become of age they won't be debating, they will be out for blood. I'll give it another 4-5 years or so.



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[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 11 years ago

the fuck you talking about dude? i am no kid. the organizers where not kids. despite what's you think some of us have been at this since the late 90's or longer.

[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

"Chicago’s murder rate soared 16% in 2012. There were 506 recorded murders in the city last year which was the highest rate since 2008, and 2013 is already starting off on horrid pace with 22 reported murders in the first 13 days. A large portion of the violence is attributed to gang warfare involving minors. Since 2007 over 250 victims of shooting deaths in the city were under the age of 17."

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

Excellent post. When the disenfranchised and violent get involved, there will be no safe sanctuary for the corrupt and oppressive. The blood of their their loved ones and of their children, will certainly flow through every avenue. The corrupt will globally succumb to the fear they have forced upon the innocent, as their own innocent will be forced to answer to crimes they have perpetrated. It is violent at the bottom.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 12 years ago

That's why I've been saying for months that OWS is in fact an incredible GIFT TO AMERICA, INCLUDING THE 1%.

If the 1% is not smart enough to SEE IT as a gift and to engage in constructive dialogue with OWS in order to birth a New America... then I truly fear for the future of this country.

As JFK warned us nearly half a century ago:

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

John F. Kennedy, in a speech at the White House, 1962

"tweed" figures that we have another 4-5 years or so. I'm not even sure that we have 2 years. In a country in full-blown crisis, things can change VERY abruptly - and that's why there is, FOR THOSE OF US WHO WANT TO EFFECT PEACEFUL CHANGE, NOT A SECOND TO LOSE.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23799) 12 years ago

You are right about this. OWS is a wake-up call. Heed the call or things will get much worse.

The U.S. has so much wealth, had the 1% been just a bit less greedy we probably wouldn't be here discussing this.

[-] 1 points by tweed (9) 12 years ago

I think that common sense is no match for the insatiable greed of many in this country. If history is a good teacher, and it is, they will be suffering the consequences.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 12 years ago

You're right, it is a matter of COMMON SENSE - and I would add, of HEALTHY SELF-INTEREST on the part of the 1%.

If they remain stuck in "insatible greed mode", they will in time SELF-DESTRUCT in every way: financially, emotionally and spiritually. Who wants to die with a civil war on his conscience?

SOME OF THE 1% are actually beginning to "GET IT". Former Finance Minister and Prime Minister of Canada, billionaire businessman Paul Martin recently visited Occupy Montreal and came out in full support of OWS and even wealth redistribution:

"An unexpected voice is joining the chorus of support for the Occupy movement — former prime minister Paul Martin.

Martin says protesters have sparked a global debate that may help save the free market system.

“This idea that [the Occupy protestors] don’t have clear goals, I don’t think anybody buys it,” Martin told The Huffington Post, even as city governments across Canada step up their efforts to end the occupation. “These young people have touched a chord that is being discussed in every family across North America and in Europe, as well. I think it’s a very important thing they’ve done.”

Since Occupy Wall Street launched in New York two months ago, spreading like wildfire across the Western world, many public figures have come out in support of the protests against the growing gap between rich and poor. Most, however, have been celebrities, such as Gordon Lightfoot joining his daughter at Occupy Toronto and Anne Hathaway marching in yesterday’s Day of Action in New York.

Martin — who enacted controversial social service cuts during his time as Liberal finance minister from 1994 to 2002 — says he’s gone down to Occupy Montreal and spoken to the protestors personally.

“The fact is that the free market system works, but unless governments and people are constantly on the watch out for rampant inequality, unless they understand the need for redistribution programs, unless they understand the need to invest in education and better health care and a better environment,” Martin said, “then effectively the free market system will fall on its own accord.”